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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:25 AM
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46. Fine, just dont expect rescue workers to risk their life to save your ass.
Once things settle down and they can get to you fine, but until then, you are on your own and responsible for yourself.
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  -Stranded Galveston residents call in vain for rescues kurth_  Sep-12-08 11:05 PM   #0 
  - Doesn't it burn you up?  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-12-08 11:08 PM   #1 
  - Thought I like blaming the GOP for a lot of things  Bubbha Jo   Sep-12-08 11:11 PM   #5 
  - Hurricane Ike did a LOT of damage in Cuba......  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-12-08 11:16 PM   #6 
  - and if the US government went in and forcibly removed people  paulk   Sep-12-08 11:24 PM   #9 
  - I'm not so sure. Generally, in the U.S. the ones that die are the ones that don't have the money .  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-12-08 11:26 PM   #11 
  - that's not the case with the people who CHOSE to stay in galveston.  QuestionAll   Sep-12-08 11:36 PM   #14 
  - Hmm... who all stayed behind? The very ill? The very old? nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-12-08 11:43 PM   #22 
  - Thank you... this is exactly the right response to that sort of idiocy.  heliarc   Sep-13-08 12:02 AM   #33 
  - Thank you. The pull yourself up by your bootstraps is bullshit  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-13-08 12:06 AM   #38 
  - They evacuated the very ill.  emilyg   Sep-13-08 12:12 AM   #41 
  - Also the very dumb...  kirby   Sep-13-08 12:27 AM   #48 
  - Some didn't like the traffic jams before Rita hit and decided to stay.  Suich   Sep-13-08 01:35 AM   #54 
  - yes, I have a friend whose ill brother died on the road during Rita  ensho   Sep-13-08 10:06 AM   #90 
  - i think there was a backlash from the Rita evacuation  barbtries   Sep-13-08 07:51 AM   #72 
  - I think the real lesson learned from Rita is that there is no way to  snappyturtle   Sep-13-08 11:54 AM   #98 
     - wow  barbtries   Sep-13-08 02:22 PM   #122 
  - There Are Threads IN GD About The ID10T's Who Stayed Behind.  jayfish   Sep-13-08 07:59 AM   #75 
  - KHOU showed plenty of JACKASSES who thought it was cool and funny to stay  Dreamer Tatum   Sep-13-08 09:35 AM   #86 
  - No. Anyone who needed help was bussed out for free. Ill, elderly, poor. nt  indie_ana_500   Sep-14-08 09:01 PM   #142 
     - Not according to this woman  Lone_Star_Dem   Sep-14-08 09:16 PM   #146 
  - Are you certain?  heliarc   Sep-13-08 12:07 AM   #39 
     - I noticed that's what NOLA was doing with the hurricane before IKE  ohio2007   Sep-13-08 10:37 AM   #93 
  - 40% of the population decided to stay  xxqqqzme   Sep-13-08 10:19 PM   #126 
  - True that.  Mind_your_head   Sep-12-08 11:57 PM   #31 
  - And we are free and they are not.....  Bubbha Jo   Sep-12-08 11:24 PM   #10 
  - Freedom to go hungry and die, freedom for your child to die from no health care if you can't get any  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-12-08 11:47 PM   #26 
  - Yes, Cuba is Freedom  Spouting Horn   Sep-13-08 09:09 AM   #81 
     - In Cuba you are cared for  reggie the dog   Sep-13-08 12:22 PM   #102 
     - Just to be clear - just as one is "cared for", one cares for also.  Billy Burnett   Sep-13-08 12:29 PM   #104 
        - I wish it were like that here in France  reggie the dog   Sep-13-08 01:30 PM   #118 
     - Which Castro?  WriteDown   Sep-13-08 12:41 PM   #106 
  - The logic of a pretzel.  Billy Burnett   Sep-13-08 02:38 AM   #57 
  - It's against the law  dgibby   Sep-12-08 11:43 PM   #21 
  - If there's danger, or we're attacked, or there's a fire, one cannot be moved forcibly?  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-12-08 11:48 PM   #27 
  - They should make a law like they have in Arizona  silverojo   Sep-13-08 01:16 AM   #52 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-12-08 11:44 PM   #23 
  - So if there's a fire in your house, and the fire dept. forcibly moved you, that's against the law?  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-12-08 11:49 PM   #28 
     - Totally different.  cobalt1999   Sep-13-08 12:03 AM   #34 
        - I can't believe you're arguing that the government should not save someone from  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-13-08 12:05 AM   #36 
           - That I am.  cobalt1999   Sep-13-08 12:11 AM   #40 
           - Well, as someone mentioned, the pull yourself up by your bootstraps thingie is crap  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-13-08 12:14 AM   #42 
           - Now you are making no sense at all.  cobalt1999   Sep-13-08 12:18 AM   #43 
           - Cobalt1999, thank you!  ChazII   Sep-14-08 02:37 AM   #132 
              - I second that.  AngryOldDem   Sep-14-08 07:30 AM   #133 
           - Yes, under emergency situations people can be forcibly evacuated  jberryhill   Sep-13-08 08:05 AM   #78 
              - An approaching hurricane is different than a fire, as already said.  cobalt1999   Sep-13-08 08:18 AM   #79 
              - You are absolutely wrong, and it's been done before  jberryhill   Sep-13-08 09:23 AM   #82 
              - There's your problem. You are an attorney.  cobalt1999   Sep-13-08 10:36 AM   #92 
              - You obviously also don't remember the times this has been done  jberryhill   Sep-13-08 01:19 PM   #112 
                 - Name one hurricane where the National Guard forced evacuations.  cobalt1999   Sep-13-08 01:28 PM   #116 
                    - Could it be the subtle difference between "mandatory" and "forced"?  AngryOldDem   Sep-14-08 07:39 AM   #134 
                       - It's impossible to FORCIBLY evacuate a population before a hurricane.  cobalt1999   Sep-14-08 09:40 AM   #137 
              - Enough was done by the various govts. Warning of "certain" death if you stay....  indie_ana_500   Sep-14-08 09:07 PM   #144 
              - also, it's worth pointing out that the function of the fire dept  paulk   Sep-13-08 11:54 AM   #97 
              - the problem I have with you idea  reggie the dog   Sep-13-08 12:33 PM   #105 
           - Fine, just dont expect rescue workers to risk their life to save your ass.  kirby   Sep-13-08 12:25 AM   #46 
           - That's the bargain with a mandatory evacutation  cobalt1999   Sep-13-08 08:03 AM   #76 
              - You are uninformed and wrong on the law  jberryhill   Sep-13-08 09:28 AM   #83 
                 - I'm talking real life, not what's on the law books.  cobalt1999   Sep-13-08 10:16 AM   #91 
                 - It's been done in real life  jberryhill   Sep-13-08 01:20 PM   #113 
                    - Name the hurricane.  cobalt1999   Sep-13-08 01:30 PM   #117 
                       - Still waiting for that Hurricane name...  cobalt1999   Sep-14-08 09:33 AM   #136 
                          - I'm sorry it's not my highest priority  jberryhill   Sep-16-08 08:35 PM   #147 
                             - So in other words, you've got no example.  cobalt1999   Sep-16-08 08:58 PM   #149 
                                - Wildfires move faster than hurricanes  jberryhill   Sep-16-08 09:11 PM   #150 
                                   - You seem to have a lack of reading comprehension  cobalt1999   Sep-16-08 09:20 PM   #153 
                 - You might want to get the cites right  depakid   Sep-13-08 12:50 PM   #108 
                    - Which one  jberryhill   Sep-13-08 01:22 PM   #114 
                       - You were probably looking for the vaccination case  depakid   Sep-13-08 01:35 PM   #119 
                          - Same line of cases...  jberryhill   Sep-16-08 08:37 PM   #148 
           - Well, if it is legal for police to tear gas and rubber bullet peaceful protesters from  1monster   Sep-13-08 09:53 AM   #89 
           - were there busses for the poor?  reggie the dog   Sep-13-08 12:25 PM   #103 
           - Terry Schiavo (sp?) anyone?  Le Taz Hot   Sep-13-08 06:03 AM   #66 
  - Cuba does FORCE the evacuations.  ingac70   Sep-12-08 11:51 PM   #29 
  - Of course they force them. And while in N.O. people died drowned, by droves....  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-13-08 12:19 AM   #44 
  - Just curious if you have a link to the info about "of course they force them"  clixtox   Sep-13-08 08:03 AM   #77 
     - Pardon? nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-13-08 09:54 PM   #124 
        - Is my post confusing...  clixtox   Sep-14-08 01:32 AM   #131 
  - Oh please. NONSENSE.  Billy Burnett   Sep-13-08 02:25 AM   #56 
     - Thanks for your post., Billy Burnett.  watrwefitinfor   Sep-13-08 05:01 AM   #61 
  - Thank you. Galveston ducked, dodged and belittled Ike.  aquart   Sep-13-08 12:06 AM   #37 
  - :( I guess they cannot. nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Sep-13-08 12:20 AM   #45 
  - Cuba does it by community organizing so that everyone can evacuate.  Billy Burnett   Sep-13-08 02:22 AM   #55 
  - Its not fair to make that comparison ....  Trajan   Sep-13-08 03:02 AM   #58 
  - But this country would never accept a forcible evacuation policy  DeltaLitProf   Sep-13-08 05:56 AM   #65 
  - Bull - We do accept it, and it is legal  jberryhill   Sep-13-08 09:32 AM   #85 
  - "We chose a government that respects human freedom (at least nominally)"  bean fidhleir   Sep-14-08 09:29 AM   #135 
  - WE do that too! But our people are allowed to say NO.  JeanGrey   Sep-13-08 06:08 AM   #69 
  - Sorry, but the governor can use emergency powers to enforce evacuations  jberryhill   Sep-13-08 09:48 AM   #88 
     - You cannot FORCE anyone.  JeanGrey   Sep-13-08 11:36 AM   #96 
        - You can, and it's been done  jberryhill   Sep-13-08 01:26 PM   #115 
           - When? What Hurricane?  JeanGrey   Sep-14-08 06:33 PM   #138 
  - You have it at least partly wrong  kdsusa   Sep-13-08 07:34 AM   #70 
  - You really haven't thought this through.  bvar22   Sep-13-08 11:57 AM   #99 
  - So you are saying  JonQ   Sep-13-08 01:44 PM   #121 
  - All governments control the media to some extent, Cuba is no exception  marshall   Sep-13-08 07:24 PM   #123 
  - Self Delete  Jawja   Sep-13-08 06:03 AM   #67 
  - Yep. And think of the children who's idiot parents trapped them in there.  jazzjunkysue   Sep-13-08 11:33 PM   #128 
  - well said  BobbyZimmerman   Sep-13-08 11:34 PM   #129 
  - Actually, the warning said those who stayed would face "certain" death and there would be no rescues  indie_ana_500   Sep-14-08 09:00 PM   #141 
  - Isn't the Galveston mayor a Democrat? She ordered the evacuation too late.  yardwork   Sep-12-08 11:42 PM   #19 
  - No one is saying that but you. Why are you attacking the Democratic mayor of Galveston?  ClarkUSA   Sep-12-08 11:47 PM   #25 
     - As recently as three days ago the mayor was saying it would be fine, the seawalls would hold, etc.  yardwork   Sep-13-08 12:27 AM   #49 
        - Weds. was voluntary evac.  halobeam   Sep-13-08 12:54 AM   #50 
  - Maybe, just maybe, it would be more respectful of the dead  EmperorHasNoClothes   Sep-13-08 12:00 AM   #32 
  - Yes, it burns me up how casually they censor the media.  fasttense   Sep-13-08 05:19 AM   #63 
  - HOW DOES IT reflect badly on anyone but the fools who  JeanGrey   Sep-13-08 06:07 AM   #68 
  - Absolutely. The GOP has to stop ordering up these storms.  scot   Sep-13-08 11:02 PM   #127 
  - what burns me is people are allowed to build on barrier islands & coastal surge zones  wordpix   Sep-16-08 09:13 PM   #151 
  - An independent spirit is sometimes quite admirable.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Sep-12-08 11:08 PM   #2 
  - Oh, Wait For The Spin  iamjoy   Sep-12-08 11:18 PM   #8 
     - I doubt many wealthy people stayed in Galveston. There are a lot of poor minorities there.  yardwork   Sep-12-08 11:43 PM   #20 
  - wishing the best for all and please take pictures of everything.  uppityperson   Sep-12-08 11:08 PM   #3 
  - Please don't chronicle the reality of the situation with....  sazemisery   Sep-12-08 11:11 PM   #4 
  - I have 3 dogs 5 cats and 2 horse-if for some reason I couldn't get them out  tularetom   Sep-12-08 11:17 PM   #7 
  - Me too. Unfortuately not all pet owners care enough to make proper  Doremus   Sep-13-08 09:47 AM   #87 
  - I hope they provided the means to get out.  cyr330   Sep-12-08 11:27 PM   #12 
  - yes, they did. the only people that stayed CHOSE to do so...  QuestionAll   Sep-12-08 11:37 PM   #15 
  - They get what they get...  clixtox   Sep-13-08 07:58 AM   #74 
  - More than 1300 buses and 300 ambulances were ordered to the area  kurth_   Sep-12-08 11:38 PM   #16 
  - It costs nothing to put one foot in front of the other  SCBeeland   Sep-12-08 11:41 PM   #18 
     - you have got to be kidding me  Fran Kubelik   Sep-13-08 10:39 AM   #94 
        - nope. Try this one also... People in prison deserve to be there, should drown (paraphrased)  uppityperson   Sep-13-08 12:44 PM   #107 
  - My grandparents decided it wasn't worth evacuating their Vero Beach, FL home because of a hurricane  CreekDog   Sep-12-08 11:29 PM   #13 
  - Sorry but all I have to say is....  Roland99   Sep-12-08 11:38 PM   #17 
  - Why Do Some People Ignore Evacuation Warnings?  kurth_   Sep-12-08 11:45 PM   #24 
     - They've had at least 48 hours' notice.  Roland99   Sep-12-08 11:56 PM   #30 
     - As a teacher, I have to agree with this. The parents come in for all small events.  jazzjunkysue   Sep-13-08 11:51 PM   #130 
  - "ignored a mandatory evacuation order"  Triana   Sep-13-08 12:03 AM   #35 
  - Too bad  jedex   Sep-13-08 12:27 AM   #47 
  - it's sort of a toss-up  pop goes the weasel   Sep-13-08 01:05 AM   #51 
  - I have been watching news reports of Ike since last weekend ....  Trajan   Sep-13-08 03:27 AM   #59 
  - They had no choice.  dchill   Sep-13-08 10:02 PM   #125 
  - Natural Selection NT/  revolve   Sep-13-08 01:25 AM   #53 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-13-08 03:32 AM   #60 
  - that is disgusting  Fran Kubelik   Sep-13-08 10:39 AM   #95 
  - Residents call in Vain.. maybe they should call a different town.  Loudmxr   Sep-13-08 05:17 AM   #62 
  - people who want to evacuate  northernlights   Sep-13-08 05:55 AM   #64 
  - the media should photograph everything  barbtries   Sep-13-08 07:47 AM   #71 
  - In Streets of Galveston, the Feel of a Haunted House  kurth_   Sep-13-08 07:53 AM   #73 
  - superman syndrome. they think they are invincible. they have no idea what the  AgadorSparticus   Sep-13-08 08:41 AM   #80 
  - The Law Permits Forcible Evacuation  jberryhill   Sep-13-08 09:30 AM   #84 
     - Welcome to the new and improved DU.  Billy Burnett   Sep-13-08 12:04 PM   #100 
  - Sorry, but I have a tough time feeling much sympathy for those that CHOSE to stay.  SurferBoy   Sep-13-08 12:15 PM   #101 
  - all the hurricane coverage you need and they had before the IKE  ohio2007   Sep-13-08 12:55 PM   #109 
  - Apples & Oranges, SurferBoy.  bvar22   Sep-13-08 01:12 PM   #110 
     - Quite a few I would believe.  SurferBoy   Sep-13-08 01:43 PM   #120 
     - 1300 buses and 300 ambulances.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Sep-14-08 07:31 PM   #140 
     - Income has nothing to do w/evacuation of Galveston. I live nearby. Whadya wanna know? nt  indie_ana_500   Sep-14-08 09:10 PM   #145 
  - Moral of the story, never get arrested in any place near sea level  nolabels   Sep-13-08 01:12 PM   #111 
  - How come Jesus didn't come to their rescue?  IndianaGreen   Sep-14-08 07:17 PM   #139 
  - I think these were the people Bill Hicks warned us about.  Crowman1979   Sep-14-08 09:05 PM   #143 
  - why is no one talking about the idiocy of building on a barrier island, as well as  wordpix   Sep-16-08 09:17 PM   #152 
     - It seems to be a taboo subject ...  Nihil   Sep-17-08 03:54 AM   #154 

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