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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:26 PM
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44. Nowhere, inshallah.
God willing, nobody would ever speak like that.

For those who believe that Jesus intervenes in their life, vacations, jobs, projects, and just about everything else is part of God's plan. And we're to pray that our plans match God's plans.

It's not just the words. It's the semiotics.

I don't use "God" except in a referential sort of way. No "God damn", no "Jesus Christ!" as swear words or words of shock and surprise. And would I really want to ask God to send somebody or something to spend eternity in hellfire, just because they cut me off and I lost *my* temper, or didn't hit a nail right and want the hammer to pay for eternity? I think not, even were I to believe in hell. I don't say "God bless you" when you sneeze, I say "excuse me" when I sneeze and "Gesundheit" when others sneeze. I say "thank God" when I seriously want to thank God; not something I've done much of in recent memory.

I took Arabic, and many Arabs have "alhamdulillah" and "inshallah" dripping off their lips every other sentence. We were expected to internalize this usage to be communicatively competent and culturally competent. Somebody complained, and the teacher said the religious and irreligious do it--it's just a verbal tic for many people, and expected in many instances. "Do it, and it's only meaning is that you're behaving appropriately in a conversation. Don't do it, and you sound like you're trying to be weird." "Cultural competence" is something that needs to have more attention paid to it. Unless you're culturally competent, what's said by the Other is going to be misinterpreted and misunderstood through your own cultural centrism.

Both sides do it, in equal measure. Some on both sides assume they're justified in doing it, they and only they are right. I've been on both sides many times--repub and dem friends, atheist and fundie friends, cold-warriors and fellow-travellers--and watched people do it to others and have it done to them, and I've been on the receiving end from numerous sets of diametrically opposed sets of morons. On the same day. On the same issue. Bad news, all around. It's one reason I like being a translator and linguist. It's fun to watch how utterances change meaning in context, to learn new systems of signification and discourse, and see how it's butt-obvious when you know the system what somebody means given the context and discourse, but most people, even those who claim to be native speakers, can't be bothered to summon up the effort to try to understand. Seldom is a conversation boring, you can always focus on the dysfluency and dysfunction.
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  -Palin says Iraq war is 'task from God' DogPoundPup  Sep-03-08 11:15 AM   #0 
  - She is a Fucking Nut Job  saigon68   Sep-03-08 11:18 AM   #1 
  - Read about the Fucking Nut Job and how she overtook the little town of Wasilla  DogPoundPup   Sep-03-08 11:44 AM   #16 
  - Appalling  saigon68   Sep-03-08 12:15 PM   #23 
  - bet you 100 mooseburgers that her church friends filled those jobs. n/t  progressivebydesign   Sep-03-08 12:53 PM   #30 
     - They probably did  saigon68   Sep-04-08 09:05 AM   #61 
  - I thought the Knights Templar excluded women!  HopeHoops   Sep-03-08 01:13 PM   #33 
  - McCain just didn't want to deal with the religious nut jobs  NeoTheo   Sep-03-08 09:52 PM   #52 
  - Making the MSM???  sinkingfeeling   Sep-03-08 11:18 AM   #2 
  - I would seriously have to question anything from UPI though.  pegleg   Sep-03-08 11:19 AM   #3 
  - nothing to question... the video is available on youtube  ixion   Sep-03-08 11:28 AM   #8 
  - What a puke. Is there another nation where this kind of language is OK? nt  thereismore   Sep-03-08 11:19 AM   #4 
  - Iran.  YOY   Sep-03-08 11:20 AM   #5 
  - Exactly. Iran.  Jackpine Radical   Sep-03-08 12:00 PM   #21 
  - Nowhere, inshallah.  igil   Sep-03-08 07:26 PM   #44 
  - See the video here  ForPeace   Sep-03-08 11:22 AM   #6 
  - to a Republican ''God's plan'' means ''put money in my pocket.''  yurbud   Sep-03-08 11:23 AM   #7 
  - That's just great...  StarryNite   Sep-03-08 11:32 AM   #9 
  - Rather than pray she not get elected, I sent this bullshit to every person I know who might watch...  kysrsoze   Sep-03-08 05:22 PM   #43 
  - She must be stopped. All of this bullshit about what we can and can't talk about when this woman --  The Stranger   Sep-03-08 11:33 AM   #10 
  - As mayor, Palin brought culture wars to town  DogPoundPup   Sep-03-08 11:40 AM   #15 
  - Praying "that there is a plan"  Barrett808   Sep-03-08 11:33 AM   #11 
  - After watching that video I can proclaim without a doubt  go west young man   Sep-03-08 11:34 AM   #12 
  - I prayed on it and God told me it was his plan for  Frances   Sep-03-08 11:35 AM   #13 
  - As a Christian I take great offense at that prattling airhead  Prisoner_Number_Six   Sep-03-08 11:40 AM   #14 
  - Real fundamentalists  tama   Sep-03-08 11:47 AM   #17 
  - "Pseudofundies" - also find economically compromised individuals willing to take up  bullwinkle428   Sep-03-08 01:02 PM   #32 
  - If it is "a task from God", then fighting in the conflict is doing God's work.  raccoon   Sep-03-08 11:47 AM   #18 
  - Looks like McLame found another Hagee fundy to admire  saigon68   Sep-03-08 11:58 AM   #19 
  - Substitue God with Allah and this could have been from a bin Laden script. eom  Purveyor   Sep-03-08 11:58 AM   #20 
  - This is a Jesus was a warrior and a Capitalist speech . . . if she can sell it--!!!  defendandprotect   Sep-03-08 12:13 PM   #22 
  - She is a Christian Bin Laden  fascisthunter   Sep-03-08 12:17 PM   #24 
  - the only problem being..God didn't know about this plan or approve it  Swagman   Sep-03-08 12:20 PM   #25 
  - God invades sovereign nations? JESUS invaded Iraq????  aquart   Sep-03-08 12:23 PM   #26 
  - Let her go fight since she is the believer  newfie11   Sep-03-08 12:27 PM   #27 
  - Sheesh!  Donkeykick   Sep-03-08 12:39 PM   #28 
  - This doesn't make sense.  SurferBoy   Sep-03-08 12:51 PM   #29 
  - it's not without "precedent"  0rganism   Sep-03-08 01:30 PM   #35 
  - Remember those "stealth candidates" that took over all those school boards??  progressivebydesign   Sep-03-08 12:54 PM   #31 
  - oh crap, she is fueling the rapturists, a dangerous combination  alyce douglas   Sep-03-08 01:22 PM   #34 
  - One of the reasons I left the military a couple years ago!  Crowman1979   Sep-03-08 01:34 PM   #36 
  - We were "Too Busy" trying to survive  saigon68   Sep-03-08 02:44 PM   #38 
     - All because of some elite thug being afraid of somebody on the other side of the world.  Crowman1979   Sep-03-08 07:47 PM   #45 
  - So I guess killing millions of native americans was a task from god also.  Crowman1979   Sep-03-08 01:36 PM   #37 
  - A lot of people back then believed that  Art_from_Ark   Sep-04-08 10:06 PM   #71 
  - yep, she's a hostile freeper nut job. Who was that crazy woman in FL  superconnected   Sep-03-08 03:01 PM   #39 
  - You mean Katherine Harris?  SurferBoy   Sep-03-08 03:47 PM   #41 
  - Kick for the Krusader!  AzDar   Sep-03-08 03:30 PM   #40 
  - She is truly insane  LeftishBrit   Sep-03-08 03:47 PM   #42 
  - Palin: Iraq War 'a task from God'  Suji to Seoul   Sep-03-08 09:00 PM   #46 
  - Sarah, Sarah, Sarah.  Voltaire99   Sep-03-08 09:00 PM   #47 
  - cwazy  pinkpops   Sep-03-08 09:00 PM   #49 
  - The link says there are video clips but  pinkpops   Sep-03-08 09:00 PM   #48 
  - You Tube link  DemItAllAnyway   Sep-03-08 09:00 PM   #50 
  - Someone please stop this woman  patrioticandrea   Sep-03-08 09:00 PM   #51 
  - Welcome  saigon68   Sep-03-08 10:00 PM   #53 
  - Part of the delusional Bible Thumper Brigade  funkyfeet   Sep-04-08 08:37 AM   #58 
  - Misleading article!  psychopomp   Sep-03-08 10:07 PM   #54 
  - These crusading holy warriors  Third Doctor   Sep-04-08 12:26 AM   #56 
  - Very little difference  funkyfeet   Sep-04-08 08:43 AM   #59 
  - How is it misleading?  nam78_two   Sep-04-08 09:46 AM   #66 
  - WHAT!!!!!!!!!  Harold J.   Sep-03-08 10:51 PM   #55 
  - k & r!  Pavlovs DiOgie   Sep-04-08 08:12 AM   #57 
  - Freepers are practically masturbating to her speech  Wabbajack_   Sep-04-08 08:45 AM   #60 
  - yeah, let's see her pick up her gun and join God's army in Iraq. Prolife?  alfredo   Sep-04-08 09:10 AM   #62 
  - This woman is dangerous and just plain batshit crazy.  KillCapitalism   Sep-04-08 09:19 AM   #63 
  - All the Dems have to do is...  CaughtInTheMiddle   Sep-04-08 09:35 AM   #64 
  - She sounds (and acts) like Bush and Cheney rolled up into one disgusting package.nt  nam78_two   Sep-04-08 09:43 AM   #65 
  - Palin is batshit crazy!  workinclasszero   Sep-04-08 09:51 AM   #67 
  - Which is why those in power always support some form of religion  panzerfaust   Sep-04-08 10:07 AM   #68 
  - For those of you who have seen "The Mist"  Rocknrule   Sep-04-08 08:32 PM   #69 
  - So this is the stuff God thinks up for humans to do.  undeterred   Sep-04-08 08:36 PM   #70 

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