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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:06 AM
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13. The Russians have no intention of leaving Sevastopol.
From a previous post:

"Both Russia and Ukraine call for full and undeviating observance of the 1997 agreements, but attach different meanings of this phrase in some major respects. Crucially, Ukraine cites the 20-year time limit on the lease, calling for the Russian Fleets complete removal from Sevastopol and handover of the base to Ukraine by 2017. Russia, however, hopes to take advantage of a clause that permits the prolongation of that term by mutual consent. . .

The Russian side, however, avoids discussing that issue, biding its time and almost certainly hoping to pressure or cajole a future Ukrainian government into prolongation by mutual consent." ...

By "mutual consent" read put puppet government in place or "cajole" through the use of arms?

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