pipoman
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Thu Aug-07-08 06:02 AM
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the population/their constituents would strongly object to the Feds, to wit their elected federal representatives, disregarding their state sovereignty? Could it be that support for this treaty would enjoy the same amount of public support enjoyed by other international treaties like the NAFTA and GATT agreements which were signed onto even though some 70% of the citizens of this country were opposed to the agreements?
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| -Texas execution sparks international legal debate |
Canuckistanian |
Aug-06-08 08:55 AM |
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we are a nation of laws |
AlphaCentauri |
Aug-06-08 09:05 AM |
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Is that Americans who moved to a foreign country at age 3 and stayed there? |
marshall |
Aug-06-08 09:33 AM |
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Or being accused of raping and murdering. |
peace13 |
Aug-06-08 09:59 AM |
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it's beyond being accused--the trial has already taken place |
marshall |
Aug-06-08 10:05 AM |
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I know that, my reply was to your comment. |
peace13 |
Aug-06-08 10:20 AM |
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Oh, I understand |
marshall |
Aug-06-08 11:42 AM |
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He never asked to speak to the consulate until after his conviction |
Marrah_G |
Aug-06-08 07:04 PM |
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it doesn't matter if he is not a US citizen, treaties have to respected. |
AlphaCentauri |
Aug-06-08 07:48 PM |
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He had no interest in being a Mexican resident prior to this. |
Marrah_G |
Aug-06-08 07:58 PM |
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it's not about what he wanted its about the rights of everybody else |
AlphaCentauri |
Aug-06-08 08:24 PM |
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He was not denied access, he never asked for access until he thought it could get him released |
Marrah_G |
Aug-06-08 08:31 PM |
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Rights are not something you need to ask for |
AlphaCentauri |
Aug-07-08 10:01 AM |
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That's a nice reply. Irrelevant. |
igil |
Aug-07-08 09:25 PM |
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In this case what is becoming irrelevant is the country as a federation of states |
AlphaCentauri |
Aug-07-08 11:55 PM |
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Re: "at least avoid raping and murdering |
anotheryellowdog |
Aug-06-08 10:07 AM |
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How about telling the Germans that you are an American national at the time. |
cobalt1999 |
Aug-06-08 12:46 PM |
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I guess we could all agree that one thing Americans are good at is killing. nt |
snappyturtle |
Aug-06-08 10:46 AM |
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What the hell is... |
twiceshy |
Aug-06-08 10:50 AM |
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You are obviously in the wrong place amigo... |
truebrit71 |
Aug-06-08 11:18 AM |
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Why don't you dive off a cliff? |
Canuckistanian |
Aug-06-08 11:33 AM |
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The key is that the state of Texas never signed the treaty |
GeniusLib |
Aug-06-08 11:42 AM |
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because it's the right thing to do? Because it's how we want our own citizens treated? |
librechik |
Aug-06-08 11:49 AM |
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So, by that logic... |
Canuckistanian |
Aug-06-08 11:52 AM |
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Prior to the conviction they didn't know he was a foreign national. |
The Croquist |
Aug-06-08 11:56 AM |
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Nope, sorry, under the Constitution the power to make treaties is federal and binds states |
bean fidhleir |
Aug-07-08 04:36 AM |
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Name removed |
Aug-06-08 01:56 PM |
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Yes, the US did sign a treaty, and as the USSC noted... |
S_B_Jackson |
Aug-06-08 08:36 PM |
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Yes, thank you |
Canuckistanian |
Aug-06-08 09:05 PM |
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This has been to the Supreme Court twice |
hack89 |
Aug-06-08 09:27 PM |
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Then why should the international community trust the U.S.? |
Canuckistanian |
Aug-06-08 09:47 PM |
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Isn't this a question you should be asking of your |
S_B_Jackson |
Aug-06-08 09:56 PM |
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Well *ahem* I don't really have any senators/congressmen |
Canuckistanian |
Aug-06-08 10:00 PM |
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Don't know - don't care |
hack89 |
Aug-06-08 09:57 PM |
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OK, fair enough |
Canuckistanian |
Aug-06-08 10:03 PM |
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Because it's not just a question of the treaty being ignored. |
igil |
Aug-07-08 09:41 PM |
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According to the Constitution (not that that means much these days) |
bean fidhleir |
Aug-07-08 04:44 AM |
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Yes - but you ignore the role of the Supreme Court |
hack89 |
Aug-07-08 06:15 AM |
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Yes, treaties do mean something.... |
S_B_Jackson |
Aug-06-08 09:50 PM |
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I agree |
Canuckistanian |
Aug-06-08 10:28 PM |
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And for my part.... |
S_B_Jackson |
Aug-07-08 01:24 AM |
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Could it be that |
pipoman |
Aug-07-08 06:02 AM |
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I agree with you except |
HiddenCSLib |
Aug-06-08 05:20 PM |
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I thought he was a mexican |
JonQ |
Aug-07-08 01:00 PM |
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Mexico encourages their people to come here illegally |
Marrah_G |
Aug-06-08 12:09 PM |
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After reading that, I would say they went too easy on the bastard. |
smirkymonkey |
Aug-06-08 03:52 PM |
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thanks for your post |
musette_sf |
Aug-06-08 06:52 PM |
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We are a nation of conflicting laws. |
Xithras |
Aug-06-08 12:50 PM |
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Could Bush have commuted his sentence? |
The Croquist |
Aug-06-08 04:14 PM |
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No, he could not have. |
Xithras |
Aug-06-08 04:49 PM |
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I think you are right. |
The Croquist |
Aug-06-08 07:59 PM |
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Commute his sentence????? |
Marrah_G |
Aug-06-08 06:38 PM |
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I was not suggesting it |
The Croquist |
Aug-07-08 06:32 AM |
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All * asked for was a stay of execution |
Canuckistanian |
Aug-06-08 09:10 PM |
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Double Jeopardy? |
Thothmes |
Aug-06-08 06:54 PM |
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Figure that now any american out there can be tried and executed |
zonmoy |
Aug-06-08 07:49 PM |
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He was not denied access, he never asked for access |
Marrah_G |
Aug-06-08 08:06 PM |
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Question is. |
zonmoy |
Aug-06-08 08:19 PM |
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Honestly- I doubt it will have much of an effect. |
Marrah_G |
Aug-06-08 08:22 PM |
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I was talking about the fact that our government is not honoring its agreements |
zonmoy |
Aug-06-08 08:31 PM |
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I think if they refused him access they would be breaking the agreement. |
Marrah_G |
Aug-06-08 08:38 PM |
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Here: |
Marrah_G |
Aug-06-08 08:46 PM |
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wow - I am DISGUSTED by the idiots who feel sorry FOR THESE MURDERERS!!!!! |
TankLV |
Aug-06-08 10:20 PM |
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I agree.. |
sendero |
Aug-07-08 07:03 AM |
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