blueatheart
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Thu Jul-10-08 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #54 |
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First, atheist are used to shutting up as they are a minority. They need to believe or realize an injustice has occurred. Then, they have to know about MRFF and how to contact them about a complaint. Next they actually have to think it is worth it to complain and make the effort to do so. Do you honestly believe every single person in this world follows up on every injustice they incurred?
So, 8000 is not really a small amount.
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| -Atheist soldier sues Army for 'unconstitutional' discrimination |
Stump |
Jul-09-08 06:03 AM |
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Damn this country sure has changed in 8 years. |
fasttense |
Jul-09-08 06:09 AM |
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who knew how much could change, |
salin |
Jul-09-08 06:11 AM |
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you phrased that wrong. "No one could have known that . . . ." |
antifaschits |
Jul-09-08 06:26 AM |
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well that is a first... |
salin |
Jul-10-08 10:56 PM |
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We don't have all the facts yet. |
The Croquist |
Jul-09-08 07:12 AM |
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His is not an isolated case |
varun |
Jul-09-08 07:14 AM |
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The military assigned him a bodyguard - that sounds pretty serious to me. |
SaveAmerica |
Jul-09-08 08:16 AM |
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US Air Force Academy Used "Former Terrorists" to Proselytize Fundamentalist Christianity to Cadets |
panzerfaust |
Jul-09-08 09:28 AM |
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Bush uses the idea that this war is God's idea to sell it to the soldiers and the public |
Not the Only One |
Jul-09-08 10:33 AM |
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CNN didn't give all the info..... |
PatGund |
Jul-09-08 01:36 PM |
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I'd be interested to know if Hall filed an EEO complaint against Welborn |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 02:41 PM |
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It sounds like Freddy Welborn is the problem. |
The Croquist |
Jul-10-08 06:26 AM |
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An EO Complaint is the avenue that Army would find out what Welborn did and be able to reprimand |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 08:44 AM |
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This sounds like the proper way to go |
atreides1 |
Jul-10-08 09:59 AM |
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Do I think the Army will bring charges against a Commissioned Officer for an confirmed EO offense? |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 10:14 AM |
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All I can say as a believing, practicing Christian is that I wipe my hands |
pegleg |
Jul-10-08 10:27 AM |
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What you said |
sarge43 |
Jul-09-08 07:20 AM |
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You and I had the same word on our dog tags - NoRelPref nt |
Mzztakable |
Jul-09-08 08:14 AM |
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The fundies have a captive audience in the military |
varun |
Jul-09-08 07:12 AM |
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Probably one of the most offensive comments about the military I've seen on DU. |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 07:58 AM |
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"most offensive comment" - then you are easily rankled |
TheBorealAvenger |
Jul-09-08 09:18 AM |
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Or I served in the military and know that the poster I responed to |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 09:25 AM |
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The WORLD is filled with people who don't question orders |
panzerfaust |
Jul-09-08 09:34 AM |
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I can tell you that the Marine Corps spends a lot of time going over what is and what isn't |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 09:54 AM |
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I served... |
J R |
Jul-09-08 09:45 AM |
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I dont have to serve in the military to know this. I have eyes, ears and a brain |
varun |
Jul-09-08 09:48 AM |
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That fact that you haven't served means you don't know what to look for or listen for. |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 10:10 AM |
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check reply #23 |
varun |
Jul-09-08 11:00 AM |
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I was replying to post #24 |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 12:50 PM |
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Plenty of "lawful orders" were executed at Abu Ghraib, eh? |
Ignis |
Jul-09-08 12:50 PM |
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I served and I think you should have said |
MindPilot |
Jul-10-08 10:29 AM |
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Christian nuts control the military |
Joe Bacon |
Jul-09-08 07:38 AM |
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Please fill us in on your military branch and your experiences in the military back up that opinion |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 07:56 AM |
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Thank you for your service. Are you a person of faith, or are you atheist? |
Orrex |
Jul-09-08 08:10 AM |
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I'm Episcoplian and served from '01 to the end of '07. |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 08:34 AM |
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That's refreshing, and encouraging |
Orrex |
Jul-09-08 11:13 AM |
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Your response goes along with what I just wrote (above), there are many different |
SaveAmerica |
Jul-09-08 08:35 AM |
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I can tell you that the US Military is NOT trying to spread Chrisianity in Iraq. |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 08:44 AM |
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I understand that, and you understand that, but 27% of Americans still think |
SaveAmerica |
Jul-09-08 03:32 PM |
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Like I said ealier, occasional you get a bible thumper who tries to spread his views |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 03:45 PM |
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EO complaints go nowhere. |
Squatch |
Jul-10-08 09:48 AM |
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That is such complete BS! Every EO complaint is seen by the Commanding General |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 09:58 AM |
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I'm sure you have the experience to back that up, but I have the *expertise* |
Squatch |
Jul-10-08 10:17 AM |
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Most EO complaints do not end up requiring a court marshal as you know. |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 10:44 AM |
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Then how do you explain all those coins that keep popping up |
Joe Bacon |
Jul-09-08 11:47 PM |
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Read post #17 where I talked about the coin issue, but I'll summarize |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 08:51 AM |
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Christian nut |
TheBorealAvenger |
Jul-09-08 09:59 AM |
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Did you look at the Military Religious Freedom Foundation site? |
Joe Bacon |
Jul-09-08 11:45 PM |
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According to MRFF's founder he has recieved over 8000 complaints about this issue |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 09:28 AM |
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misleading... |
blueatheart |
Jul-10-08 10:31 AM |
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Your argument isn't accurate either |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 10:50 AM |
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I have been in the Army for the past 12 years and I've never |
Squatch |
Jul-10-08 09:06 AM |
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It is also intellectually lazy to make a broad statement about an organization |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 09:22 AM |
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Experience is not a prerequisite to forming and making an opinion |
Squatch |
Jul-10-08 09:36 AM |
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OK, I'll refine that. Experience is needed for a well educated opinion |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 09:43 AM |
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Anyone who read THE SHORT-TIMERS or watched FULL METAL JACKET knows... |
derby378 |
Jul-09-08 08:30 AM |
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They want ALL of thier killing done in their god's name. Nice. |
paparush |
Jul-09-08 09:26 AM |
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I think there is more to this than we are being told |
Love Bug |
Jul-09-08 09:54 AM |
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Here is a bit more ... |
panzerfaust |
Jul-09-08 10:20 AM |
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I am not surprised |
varun |
Jul-09-08 10:59 AM |
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Ah, I see now. For that officer to proselytize is an abuse of his authority. |
Love Bug |
Jul-09-08 11:01 AM |
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Athesists are discrminated against all the time, in every profession |
Nevernose |
Jul-09-08 02:02 PM |
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No doubt... |
Stump |
Jul-09-08 08:31 PM |
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How Prevalent are Christian Extremists in the Military? |
fascisthunter |
Jul-10-08 09:01 AM |
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They are probably about as prevalent as they are in America Society as a whole |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 09:04 AM |
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They're quite common. |
Squatch |
Jul-10-08 09:17 AM |
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well... they are the most unquestioning of all the folks in society |
fascisthunter |
Jul-10-08 09:26 AM |
#53 |
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