sarge43
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Wed Jul-09-08 07:20 AM
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I was doing the thing in the 60's and 70's. Faith or not was your business; one of the few things that you could keep private. In fact, you expected to do so.
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| -Atheist soldier sues Army for 'unconstitutional' discrimination |
Stump |
Jul-09-08 06:03 AM |
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Damn this country sure has changed in 8 years. |
fasttense |
Jul-09-08 06:09 AM |
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who knew how much could change, |
salin |
Jul-09-08 06:11 AM |
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you phrased that wrong. "No one could have known that . . . ." |
antifaschits |
Jul-09-08 06:26 AM |
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well that is a first... |
salin |
Jul-10-08 10:56 PM |
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We don't have all the facts yet. |
The Croquist |
Jul-09-08 07:12 AM |
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His is not an isolated case |
varun |
Jul-09-08 07:14 AM |
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The military assigned him a bodyguard - that sounds pretty serious to me. |
SaveAmerica |
Jul-09-08 08:16 AM |
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US Air Force Academy Used "Former Terrorists" to Proselytize Fundamentalist Christianity to Cadets |
panzerfaust |
Jul-09-08 09:28 AM |
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Bush uses the idea that this war is God's idea to sell it to the soldiers and the public |
Not the Only One |
Jul-09-08 10:33 AM |
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CNN didn't give all the info..... |
PatGund |
Jul-09-08 01:36 PM |
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I'd be interested to know if Hall filed an EEO complaint against Welborn |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 02:41 PM |
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It sounds like Freddy Welborn is the problem. |
The Croquist |
Jul-10-08 06:26 AM |
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An EO Complaint is the avenue that Army would find out what Welborn did and be able to reprimand |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 08:44 AM |
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This sounds like the proper way to go |
atreides1 |
Jul-10-08 09:59 AM |
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Do I think the Army will bring charges against a Commissioned Officer for an confirmed EO offense? |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 10:14 AM |
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All I can say as a believing, practicing Christian is that I wipe my hands |
pegleg |
Jul-10-08 10:27 AM |
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What you said |
sarge43 |
Jul-09-08 07:20 AM |
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You and I had the same word on our dog tags - NoRelPref nt |
Mzztakable |
Jul-09-08 08:14 AM |
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The fundies have a captive audience in the military |
varun |
Jul-09-08 07:12 AM |
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Probably one of the most offensive comments about the military I've seen on DU. |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 07:58 AM |
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"most offensive comment" - then you are easily rankled |
TheBorealAvenger |
Jul-09-08 09:18 AM |
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Or I served in the military and know that the poster I responed to |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 09:25 AM |
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The WORLD is filled with people who don't question orders |
panzerfaust |
Jul-09-08 09:34 AM |
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I can tell you that the Marine Corps spends a lot of time going over what is and what isn't |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 09:54 AM |
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I served... |
J R |
Jul-09-08 09:45 AM |
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I dont have to serve in the military to know this. I have eyes, ears and a brain |
varun |
Jul-09-08 09:48 AM |
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That fact that you haven't served means you don't know what to look for or listen for. |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 10:10 AM |
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check reply #23 |
varun |
Jul-09-08 11:00 AM |
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I was replying to post #24 |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 12:50 PM |
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Plenty of "lawful orders" were executed at Abu Ghraib, eh? |
Ignis |
Jul-09-08 12:50 PM |
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I served and I think you should have said |
MindPilot |
Jul-10-08 10:29 AM |
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Christian nuts control the military |
Joe Bacon |
Jul-09-08 07:38 AM |
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Please fill us in on your military branch and your experiences in the military back up that opinion |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 07:56 AM |
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Thank you for your service. Are you a person of faith, or are you atheist? |
Orrex |
Jul-09-08 08:10 AM |
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I'm Episcoplian and served from '01 to the end of '07. |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 08:34 AM |
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That's refreshing, and encouraging |
Orrex |
Jul-09-08 11:13 AM |
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Your response goes along with what I just wrote (above), there are many different |
SaveAmerica |
Jul-09-08 08:35 AM |
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I can tell you that the US Military is NOT trying to spread Chrisianity in Iraq. |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 08:44 AM |
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I understand that, and you understand that, but 27% of Americans still think |
SaveAmerica |
Jul-09-08 03:32 PM |
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Like I said ealier, occasional you get a bible thumper who tries to spread his views |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-09-08 03:45 PM |
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EO complaints go nowhere. |
Squatch |
Jul-10-08 09:48 AM |
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That is such complete BS! Every EO complaint is seen by the Commanding General |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 09:58 AM |
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I'm sure you have the experience to back that up, but I have the *expertise* |
Squatch |
Jul-10-08 10:17 AM |
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Most EO complaints do not end up requiring a court marshal as you know. |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 10:44 AM |
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Then how do you explain all those coins that keep popping up |
Joe Bacon |
Jul-09-08 11:47 PM |
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Read post #17 where I talked about the coin issue, but I'll summarize |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 08:51 AM |
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Christian nut |
TheBorealAvenger |
Jul-09-08 09:59 AM |
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Did you look at the Military Religious Freedom Foundation site? |
Joe Bacon |
Jul-09-08 11:45 PM |
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According to MRFF's founder he has recieved over 8000 complaints about this issue |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 09:28 AM |
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misleading... |
blueatheart |
Jul-10-08 10:31 AM |
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Your argument isn't accurate either |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 10:50 AM |
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I have been in the Army for the past 12 years and I've never |
Squatch |
Jul-10-08 09:06 AM |
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It is also intellectually lazy to make a broad statement about an organization |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 09:22 AM |
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Experience is not a prerequisite to forming and making an opinion |
Squatch |
Jul-10-08 09:36 AM |
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OK, I'll refine that. Experience is needed for a well educated opinion |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 09:43 AM |
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Anyone who read THE SHORT-TIMERS or watched FULL METAL JACKET knows... |
derby378 |
Jul-09-08 08:30 AM |
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They want ALL of thier killing done in their god's name. Nice. |
paparush |
Jul-09-08 09:26 AM |
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I think there is more to this than we are being told |
Love Bug |
Jul-09-08 09:54 AM |
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Here is a bit more ... |
panzerfaust |
Jul-09-08 10:20 AM |
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I am not surprised |
varun |
Jul-09-08 10:59 AM |
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Ah, I see now. For that officer to proselytize is an abuse of his authority. |
Love Bug |
Jul-09-08 11:01 AM |
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Athesists are discrminated against all the time, in every profession |
Nevernose |
Jul-09-08 02:02 PM |
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No doubt... |
Stump |
Jul-09-08 08:31 PM |
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How Prevalent are Christian Extremists in the Military? |
fascisthunter |
Jul-10-08 09:01 AM |
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They are probably about as prevalent as they are in America Society as a whole |
wmbrew0206 |
Jul-10-08 09:04 AM |
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They're quite common. |
Squatch |
Jul-10-08 09:17 AM |
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well... they are the most unquestioning of all the folks in society |
fascisthunter |
Jul-10-08 09:26 AM |
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