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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #126
143. That's because it's a video, and not a link
Watch the video.

And in an economy where the poverty line is $21,000 for a family of 4, $9.88 isn't significantly more than minimum wage.
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  -Australia minimim wage rises to $13.61 Teh_Rabble_Rouser  Jul-08-08 02:43 PM   #0 
  - America #1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1  no limit   Jul-08-08 02:46 PM   #1 
  - Yeah.... we're fucking poor.  sakabatou   Jul-08-08 02:57 PM   #2 
  - Yes we are.  AllHereTruth   Jul-08-08 03:04 PM   #7 
  - Where we and Australia differ:  gateley   Jul-08-08 02:57 PM   #3 
  - earned income credit  enid602   Jul-08-08 06:56 PM   #61 
     - only if you have kids  TheFarseer   Jul-08-08 10:05 PM   #71 
     - And as a side-effect of the Earned Income Credit we treat the poor like animals and say they don't  slampoet   Jul-08-08 11:10 PM   #76 
     - Ditto: we need adoption credits  texshelters   Jul-09-08 11:23 AM   #136 
     - adoption credit  enid602   Jul-10-08 12:55 PM   #194 
     - earned income  enid602   Jul-10-08 12:48 PM   #191 
        - Weare not talking about the general public. We are talking about elected officials ignoring the poor  slampoet   Jul-10-08 01:37 PM   #195 
     - Well we Australians don't get taxed on our first $6k  Josh   Jul-09-08 05:32 PM   #166 
        - earned income  enid602   Jul-10-08 12:54 PM   #192 
  - Priorities  AllHereTruth   Jul-08-08 02:59 PM   #4 
  - that's absolutely correct. I fully realized this only with  closeupready   Jul-09-08 09:54 AM   #116 
  - But flag burning amendment are important  texshelters   Jul-09-08 11:22 AM   #134 
  - This will be a disaster in Australia....  WriteDown   Jul-08-08 03:00 PM   #5 
  - there is no place in an economy that does more good  bullimiami   Jul-08-08 03:05 PM   #8 
  - I dislike the pyramid or mountain analogies, it's more like a funnel or toilet.  Thor_MN   Jul-09-08 08:23 AM   #97 
     - well analogized. i like it a funnel with the rich at the bottom.  bullimiami   Jul-09-08 02:05 PM   #159 
  - Yeah, I mean, they should let it "trickle down" like they do here.  Tinman   Jul-08-08 03:09 PM   #10 
  - No, these actions have specific consequences  WriteDown   Jul-08-08 03:12 PM   #11 
     - Australians don't use American quack economic "logic"  depakid   Jul-08-08 03:35 PM   #18 
     - We could...  WriteDown   Jul-08-08 03:56 PM   #31 
        - Australia is an island nation  depakid   Jul-08-08 04:07 PM   #33 
           - Like I said down thread....  WriteDown   Jul-08-08 04:11 PM   #35 
              - How is it different than other nations?  depakid   Jul-08-08 04:17 PM   #39 
                 - You can research it,,,,,  WriteDown   Jul-08-08 06:53 PM   #60 
     - Who's talking about raising it to $100/hr?  Tinman   Jul-08-08 03:48 PM   #27 
     - A small increase in the minimum wage will have virtually no negative ramifications.  Zynx   Jul-09-08 11:23 AM   #135 
  - If there's inflation then it's nice to have some wage inflation to go with it  high density   Jul-08-08 03:21 PM   #12 
  - Uh....  WriteDown   Jul-08-08 03:26 PM   #14 
     - US Mininum Wage Adjusted for Inflation Is Well Below  Yavin4   Jul-08-08 03:38 PM   #20 
        - Two different arguments....  WriteDown   Jul-08-08 03:43 PM   #25 
           - Gosh, my 33 year old economics degree from Texas A&M just  mbperrin   Jul-08-08 04:15 PM   #38 
              - That degree must be rusty.  WriteDown   Jul-08-08 04:17 PM   #40 
              - So how about a flip answer to my wage questions?  mbperrin   Jul-08-08 04:27 PM   #44 
              - While I'm waiting, here's my academic advisor from then:  mbperrin   Jul-08-08 04:33 PM   #45 
              - Any other ad hominem attacks while I' m waiting for answer to my low wage proposals?  mbperrin   Jul-08-08 04:39 PM   #47 
                 - Sorry, left my office....  WriteDown   Jul-08-08 05:08 PM   #50 
                    - But this isn't 'arbitrary'; it comes from the Fair Pay Commission  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-08-08 06:06 PM   #55 
                    - Cost of living...  WriteDown   Jul-08-08 06:59 PM   #62 
                       - The cost of living is *vital* to these decisions  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-09-08 03:39 AM   #83 
                          - True.....  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 07:58 AM   #93 
                             - Worldwide, it would definitely be good to let the populatin dwindle  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-09-08 09:46 AM   #113 
                                - I disagree..  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 09:48 AM   #115 
                    - Certainly, if high wages are bad, low must be good.  mbperrin   Jul-08-08 08:04 PM   #65 
                    - I've been to both...  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 07:56 AM   #92 
                    - So why won't you answer where is the better place to live,  mbperrin   Jul-09-08 08:30 AM   #99 
                       - I thought I did...  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 08:35 AM   # 
                          - You DO realize that Wickett is a town of 450 people or so,  mbperrin   Jul-09-08 08:55 AM   #106 
                             - Ha!  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 09:11 AM   #108 
                                - Can't read either? Wickett does not in the slightest resemble  mbperrin   Jul-09-08 10:20 AM   #124 
                                   - You are too funny....  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 10:43 AM   #129 
                                      - Imagine what you want, dunce. I LIVE in west Texas about 30 miles  mbperrin   Jul-09-08 06:33 PM   #172 
                                         - West Texas here too  Yupster   Jul-09-08 08:51 PM   #175 
                                         - What towns/cities are you speaking about? I need employment.  BushDespiser12   Jul-10-08 08:41 AM   #178 
                                         - Look at the Permian Basin  Yupster   Jul-10-08 09:29 PM   #202 
                                         - Dupe.  BushDespiser12   Jul-10-08 08:42 AM   #179 
                                         - Interesting....  WriteDown   Jul-10-08 09:20 AM   #181 
                                         - Sounds like you have some anger issues...  WriteDown   Jul-10-08 09:23 AM   #182 
                    - FALSE  insleeforprez   Jul-09-08 04:30 PM   #161 
                    - You don't really think that's what's going on, do you?  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 07:24 AM   #88 
                       - So if GM eliminated Rick Wagoner...  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 07:51 AM   #91 
                          - No, that's the opposite  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 08:32 AM   #100 
                             - So it works one way, but not the other?  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 08:38 AM   #102 
                                - Yes, it does work one way and not the other  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 09:32 AM   #110 
                                   - No.....  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 09:37 AM   #112 
                                      - Bullshit  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 09:47 AM   #114 
                                         - Ha! How many CEO's are making 300 mil a year?  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 09:56 AM   #118 
                                         - And each of the Walton family makes $20 BILLION  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 09:59 AM   #119 
                                            - Link? n/t  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 10:05 AM   #122 
                                            - Given in Wal-Mart: the High Cost of Low Prices  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 10:23 AM   #125 
                                            - I think you are talking about net worth....  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 10:44 AM   #130 
                                            - No, they clear that in profits yearly.  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 12:48 PM   #141 
                                            - No they don't.  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 12:56 PM   #145 
                                            - Actually, you are right. It is total holdings.  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 01:16 PM   #149 
                                            - Okay...  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 01:24 PM   #151 
                                            - No, sorry, I'm not buying that  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 01:35 PM   #152 
                                            - How do you transfer stock back to the company?  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 01:38 PM   #153 
                                            - By selling a slice of your stock, and giving the proceeds to the company  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 01:56 PM   #156 
                                            - So you want them to sell ownership in their own company?  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 02:05 PM   #158 
                                            - No, I want them to give their employees decent pay  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 06:01 PM   #170 
                                            - I do too...  WriteDown   Jul-10-08 09:27 AM   #184 
                                            - But my point was never that cutting executive salaries is a solution  EstimatedProphet   Jul-10-08 03:34 PM   #200 
                                         - Now lets do a little math...  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 10:01 AM   #121 
                                            - Yeah, let's do a little math  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 10:16 AM   #123 
                                               - You seemed to be obsessed with one company  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 10:24 AM   #126 
                                               - Well, an average employee would have to, wouldn't they?  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-09-08 10:51 AM   #131 
                                               - I would be curious to see who that average includes.  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 11:11 AM   #133 
                                               - Yeah, I'm sure that 11% is going to make a big difference  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 12:54 PM   #144 
                                               - Do you think it would be better if it stayed where its at?  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 01:40 PM   #154 
                                               - You only talk about one CEO, and I'm obsessed with one company?  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 12:47 PM   #140 
                                               - walmart made 12B last year  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 12:52 PM   #142 
                                               - You used Wagoner because your argument is disingenuous.  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 01:01 PM   #147 
                                               - That's because it's a video, and not a link  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 12:52 PM   #143 
                                               - If you are a family of four and you have one wage earner  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 12:58 PM   #146 
                                               - Guess what? It didn't used to be.  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 01:02 PM   #148 
                                               - I'd like to know how you determined that  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 01:19 PM   #150 
                                               - Here's how I determined that:  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 01:47 PM   #155 
                                               - I don't disagree....  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 01:56 PM   #157 
                                               - Actually, no he didn't  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 06:11 PM   #171 
                                               - I am just going by what you said...  WriteDown   Jul-10-08 09:26 AM   #183 
                                               - That's the point  EstimatedProphet   Jul-10-08 03:32 PM   #199 
                                               - Who on earth told you they get $20B a year each?  Dreamer Tatum   Jul-10-08 11:19 AM   #189 
                                               - I already corrected that, Mr. Wizard.  EstimatedProphet   Jul-10-08 03:35 PM   #201 
              - Are you suggesting a return to slavery?  closeupready   Jul-09-08 10:01 AM   #120 
  - Don't Small Businesses Benefit More If They Have Customers with Money To Spend?  Yavin4   Jul-08-08 03:39 PM   #22 
  - Where is our relief? When do we get a republic for the people?  endarkenment   Jul-08-08 03:02 PM   #6 
  - Though I don't know their Cost of Living, Kudos to them. Here's ours and % increases:  pinto   Jul-08-08 03:07 PM   #9 
  - indexed to inflation  jpcrecom   Jul-08-08 03:23 PM   #13 
  - Agree. Index it to inflation. It's been presented and shot down. I'd  pinto   Jul-08-08 05:07 PM   #49 
     - The experience in Oregon, where indexing has been the law for several years  depakid   Jul-08-08 05:18 PM   #51 
        - And here in CA, where some locales have set a higher minimum than our State,  pinto   Jul-08-08 06:17 PM   #57 
  - It ain't cheap here  Number23   Jul-09-08 02:14 AM   #78 
  - $13.61/hr. nice!  KillCapitalism   Jul-08-08 03:27 PM   #15 
  - Increase wages = increase costs  Lazlo301   Jul-08-08 03:29 PM   #16 
  - I do agree with your post for the most part...  WriteDown   Jul-08-08 03:39 PM   #23 
  - "I agree with you post...."  AllHereTruth   Jul-08-08 03:50 PM   #29 
     - On Social Issues...  WriteDown   Jul-08-08 03:55 PM   #30 
        - I will give you the edge in your "economic studies" BUT  AllHereTruth   Jul-08-08 04:13 PM   #36 
  - Letting the market decide is turning us into a third world country...  rfranklin   Jul-08-08 03:41 PM   #24 
  - I blame the internet  Yupster   Jul-10-08 08:35 AM   #177 
  - Serious...Really?  AllHereTruth   Jul-08-08 03:48 PM   #28 
  - Really.... Are U Serious?  Lazlo301   Jul-08-08 04:34 PM   #46 
     - Supply=demand?  mbperrin   Jul-08-08 08:20 PM   #68 
     - I can't take him seriously.  fudge stripe cookays   Jul-09-08 05:35 AM   #86 
        - I give up. What's Prince/text speech? I live in Texas,  mbperrin   Jul-09-08 08:39 AM   #103 
           - I M from TX 2  fudge stripe cookays   Jul-09-08 09:56 AM   #117 
              - Ok, thanks. Now I feel even older than I am. ;)  mbperrin   Jul-09-08 10:35 AM   #128 
     - here's where that doesn't work  TheFarseer   Jul-08-08 10:21 PM   #72 
     - Your version of economics leads directly and irrevocably to monopolies  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 07:31 AM   #89 
  - In your argument  WilyWondr   Jul-08-08 04:13 PM   #37 
  - Kudos to your idea... but...  MrBlueSky   Jul-08-08 04:22 PM   #42 
  - Yeah, one can see it's horribly hurting Australia.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-08-08 10:51 PM   #74 
  - If the free market truly decided wage, everyone would be indentured servants  EstimatedProphet   Jul-09-08 07:18 AM   #87 
  - never mind servants, slaves  kineneb   Jul-10-08 03:06 PM   #196 
  - You wouldn't have to retire  Yupster   Jul-10-08 08:33 AM   #176 
  - Does anyone know what is the unemployment level in Australia?  IronLionZion   Jul-08-08 03:31 PM   #17 
  - Another thing you should check is the....  WriteDown   Jul-08-08 03:37 PM   #19 
  - Wasn't impossible for me....  Number23   Jul-09-08 02:22 AM   #79 
     - Nifty  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 02:13 PM   #160 
        - I applied for residency  Number23   Jul-09-08 07:52 PM   #174 
           - I tried to get in under a work visa  WriteDown   Jul-10-08 09:28 AM   #185 
  - Australians have been enjoying record low unemployment  depakid   Jul-08-08 03:39 PM   #21 
  - True....  WriteDown   Jul-08-08 03:46 PM   #26 
     - Australia is a resource based economy!  depakid   Jul-08-08 04:05 PM   #32 
        - Agreed...  WriteDown   Jul-08-08 04:09 PM   #34 
           - You've mentioned immigration controls more than once.  Bear down under   Jul-08-08 09:52 PM   #70 
              - Honestly....  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 08:02 AM   #94 
                 - The US has similar categories of working visas as us...  Violet_Crumble   Jul-09-08 05:28 PM   #165 
  - How's 4.3% grab ya?  mbperrin   Jul-08-08 04:18 PM   #41 
  - Difficult to relate  edwardlindy   Jul-08-08 04:26 PM   #43 
  - unemployment in Oz  anakie   Jul-09-08 05:06 PM   #162 
  - That US$12.97, assuming that's A$13.61. Not bad. nt  eppur_se_muova   Jul-08-08 05:01 PM   #48 
  - Directly from the OP  WilyWondr   Jul-08-08 07:58 PM   #64 
     - Even better!  eppur_se_muova   Jul-08-08 08:09 PM   #67 
        - Also four weeks paid vacation a year instead of 2  Josh   Jul-09-08 05:34 PM   #167 
  - Wow, that's a pretty sane country. They actually care about people. n/t  GOPBasher   Jul-08-08 05:20 PM   #52 
  - Currently I am living in Australia  THale2   Jul-08-08 05:46 PM   #53 
  - Funny ...  daggahead   Jul-08-08 06:17 PM   #58 
  - Preach it, sister  Number23   Jul-09-08 02:32 AM   #80 
  - 45 cents in the dollar is the top tax rate for incomes over 180K...  Violet_Crumble   Jul-09-08 03:17 AM   #81 
  - 38 hour work week, too  marshall   Jul-08-08 05:49 PM   #54 
  - 36 and 3/4 hr week for me :) n/t  Violet_Crumble   Jul-09-08 03:31 AM   #82 
  - Yet another country that isn't the USA  daggahead   Jul-08-08 06:16 PM   #56 
  - When you have a CONTINENT like Australia...  WriteDown   Jul-08-08 06:52 PM   #59 
  - Let's see, then. Our problems are too many non-white people  mbperrin   Jul-08-08 08:09 PM   #66 
  - Hahaha....  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 08:09 AM   #95 
     - Why did you list a homogenous lily white population as one of the  mbperrin   Jul-09-08 08:35 AM   #101 
     - You misunderstand....  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 08:39 AM   #104 
        - I don't misunderstand. YOU keep saying that homogeneous  mbperrin   Jul-09-08 08:48 AM   #105 
           - Tsk Tsk Tsk  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 09:04 AM   #107 
              - Here's your post 59 again.  mbperrin   Jul-09-08 10:30 AM   #127 
                 - you should be a translator  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 10:55 AM   #132 
                    - And you're the king of wobble.  mbperrin   Jul-09-08 06:35 PM   #173 
                    - Australia IS NOT Lilly White  Yavin4   Jul-10-08 09:18 AM   #180 
                       - Australia is 90% white still, you can look it up n/t  WriteDown   Jul-10-08 09:29 AM   #186 
                          - You Look It Up  Yavin4   Jul-10-08 10:53 AM   #187 
                          - Okay, I did Look It Up  Yavin4   Jul-10-08 10:58 AM   #188 
                             - Where do you get 70%?  WriteDown   Jul-10-08 12:19 PM   #190 
     - "and the aborigines aren't exactly loved by everyone."  TCJ70   Jul-10-08 12:55 PM   #193 
        - Try Japan....  WriteDown   Jul-10-08 03:11 PM   #197 
           - Heh, can't speak to Japan...  TCJ70   Jul-10-08 03:15 PM   #198 
  - Their economic statistics generally are not all that different from ours.  Zynx   Jul-09-08 11:24 AM   #137 
  - A reasoned argument...  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 11:29 AM   #138 
     - The percent of our economy that is reliant on industry is smaller.  Zynx   Jul-09-08 12:42 PM   #139 
  - Our population hasn't been limited to 20 million...  Violet_Crumble   Jul-09-08 05:48 PM   #168 
  - What's that in terms of purchasing power?  igil   Jul-08-08 07:38 PM   #63 
  - Purchasing power parity rate for 2007: US $1 = AUS $1.43  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-09-08 04:01 AM   #84 
  - What America Is  nwliberalkiwi   Jul-08-08 09:01 PM   #69 
  - Ok, a hypothetical: why not raise it to $50?  Psephos   Jul-08-08 10:45 PM   #73 
  - This thread = barrel. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-08-08 11:02 PM   #75 
  - i think we will be seeing more Aussie tourists because of this  JI7   Jul-08-08 11:18 PM   #77 
  - Not many people on minimum wage travel intercontinentally  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-09-08 04:04 AM   #85 
  - you may  anakie   Jul-09-08 05:12 PM   #163 
     - True, as well as the fact no-one on the minimum wage could afford to travel anywhere...  Violet_Crumble   Jul-09-08 05:56 PM   #169 
  - I make less then that now in the USA  mdmc   Jul-09-08 07:34 AM   #90 
  - Large increases in minimum wage = inflation and unemployment  joeglow3   Jul-09-08 08:12 AM   #96 
  - Good point joeglow3  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 08:24 AM   #98 
  - Recent Australian minimum wage levels  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-09-08 09:27 AM   #109 
     - Very interesting stuff muriel_volestrangler  WriteDown   Jul-09-08 09:33 AM   #111 
  - Free Market Theorists vs. Reality  Yavin4   Jul-09-08 05:17 PM   #164 
 

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