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Rethinking the Country Life as Energy Costs Rise
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Source: NYTimes

June 25, 2008
Rethinking the Country Life as Energy Costs Rise


ELIZABETH, Colo. Suddenly, the economics of American suburban life are under assault as skyrocketing energy prices inflate the costs of reaching, heating and cooling homes on the distant edges of metropolitan areas.

Just off Singing Hills Road, in one of hundreds of two-story homes dotting a former cattle ranch beyond the southern fringes of Denver, Phil Boyle and his family openly wonder if they will have to move close to town to get some relief.

They still revel in the space and quiet that has drawn a steady exodus from American cities toward places like this for more than half a century. Their living room ceiling soars two stories high. A swing-set sways in the breeze in their backyard. Their wrap-around porch looks out over the flat scrub of the high plains to the snow-capped peaks of the Rocky Mountains.

But life on the edges of suburbia is beginning to feel untenable. Mr. Boyle and his wife must drive nearly an hour to their jobs in the high-tech corridor of southern Denver. With gasoline at more than $4 a gallon, Mr. Boyle recently paid $121 to fill his pickup truck with diesel fuel. In March, the last time he filled his propane tank to heat his spacious house, he paid $566, more than twice the price of 5 years ago.

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  -Rethinking the Country Life as Energy Costs Rise Bozita  Jun-25-08 10:14 AM   #0 
  - The entire suburban American Dream horse shit is based on cheap energy  navarth   Jun-25-08 10:28 AM   #1 
  - To quote our recently departed philosopher George Carlin:  bperci108   Jun-25-08 11:49 AM   #11 
  - Poor Mr. and Mrs. Boyle  Newsjock   Jun-25-08 10:30 AM   #2 
  - That's what I was wondering.  kimmylavin   Jun-25-08 11:57 AM   #13 
  - Just desserts. Let them start conserving.  The Stranger   Jun-25-08 10:36 AM   #3 
  - The suburban lifestyle is a cancer on the land.  paparush   Jun-25-08 10:36 AM   #4 
  - Stupid article  tama   Jun-25-08 10:41 AM   #5 
  - They aren't really in suburbia.  intheflow   Jun-26-08 04:06 PM   #33 
     - Country living  tama   Jun-26-08 08:02 PM   #39 
     - Exactly. These are just people keeping up with the damn Joneses  mycritters2   Jun-26-08 08:04 PM   #41 
        - Nope  tama   Jun-26-08 08:29 PM   #42 
     - true...that is really called "exurbia"  Blue_Tires   Jun-26-08 10:34 PM   #46 
        - "Exurbia"  intheflow   Jun-26-08 10:52 PM   #47 
  - Look a little deeper...  powwowdancer   Jun-25-08 10:57 AM   #6 
  - While what you say is true, the point is only the title of the article speaks  NCevilDUer   Jun-25-08 11:13 AM   #7 
  - "Fuel Costs Shift Equation for Life in Far Suburbs" -- Title in the NYT's print edition  Bozita   Jun-25-08 11:27 AM   #9 
  - Hang on; don't get your Irish up just yet...  bperci108   Jun-25-08 11:57 AM   #12 
  - Growing your own food  tama   Jun-25-08 12:29 PM   #15 
  - Actually, cities got fed just fine before there were trucks  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-26-08 09:25 AM   #27 
  - Rural vs. urban population ratio  tama   Jun-26-08 12:51 PM   #28 
     - Skyfarming and permaculture  TWriterD   Jun-26-08 11:10 PM   #49 
  - Lighten up tama  jbane   Jun-26-08 03:18 PM   #30 
  - I'm quite content  tama   Jun-26-08 03:58 PM   #32 
  - @ this rate it is sooner than i thought, ouch  natrat   Jun-27-08 06:55 PM   #57 
  - It was probably cheaper where you are because land was quite cheap far from where the jobs are  TheBorealAvenger   Jun-25-08 01:45 PM   #17 
  - Yes! real rural!  kineneb   Jun-25-08 01:59 PM   #20 
  - It can be done without going "real rural."  TWriterD   Jun-26-08 11:21 PM   #50 
  - Ah, you city folk.  Robb   Jun-27-08 01:20 PM   #56 
  - The article is really talking about exurban yuppies, not real country people  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-26-08 09:22 AM   #26 
     - They're moving this way, and I hope the price of gas bites 'em in the ass  mycritters2   Jun-26-08 07:57 PM   #38 
  - I am so torn on this  ellie   Jun-25-08 11:18 AM   #8 
  - I work in the country, hence I live here.  musiclawyer   Jun-25-08 11:28 AM   #10 
  - Country here, too.  kimmylavin   Jun-25-08 12:02 PM   #14 
     - Ash is good for fertilizing  tama   Jun-25-08 12:39 PM   #16 
     - I could recommend some good gardening books  TheBorealAvenger   Jun-25-08 01:47 PM   #19 
        - I would appreciate that!  kimmylavin   Jun-25-08 02:47 PM   #21 
           - The Vegetable Gardener's Bible by Ed Smith  TheBorealAvenger   Jun-26-08 08:08 AM   #23 
              - Watching these might be fun  tama   Jun-26-08 03:52 PM   #31 
              - Thanks so much!  kimmylavin   Jun-26-08 07:39 PM   #37 
                 - Happy to help  TheBorealAvenger   Jun-27-08 05:15 AM   #52 
  - Looks like my retirement home will come cheap...eom  TheBorealAvenger   Jun-25-08 01:46 PM   #18 
  - I'm a battle-scarred veteran of the ....  Bigmack   Jun-25-08 03:05 PM   #22 
  - I was quite young and did not realize that the "back to the land " movement was happening  TheBorealAvenger   Jun-26-08 08:11 AM   #24 
  - I moved back to the city after living in the suburbs for 16 years and losing a job,  DailyGrind51   Jun-26-08 09:01 AM   #25 
  - NY Times is not exactly an expert on what "country" really is.  davsand   Jun-26-08 02:46 PM   #29 
  - I'll vouch. Davsand lives in the country-not even exurb, real country.  mycritters2   Jun-26-08 08:02 PM   #40 
  - Self respecting???? Wow. I really DO live in the willy wacks!  davsand   Jun-26-08 10:12 PM   #44 
  - I hear ya on the biases of the NYTimes  XemaSab   Jun-27-08 07:11 PM   #59 
  - Tip one....don't build a fucking castle next time...  truebrit71   Jun-26-08 04:21 PM   #34 
  - I am so incredibly, deeply torn.  tedoll78   Jun-26-08 04:26 PM   #35 
  - Which streetcar line?  KamaAina   Jun-26-08 09:15 PM   #43 
     - Not sure which line yet.  tedoll78   Jun-27-08 07:35 AM   #53 
  - People belong together  JoFerret   Jun-26-08 06:10 PM   #36 
  - I am an architect and urban planner, and I have to tell you....  kevin881   Jun-26-08 10:28 PM   #45 
  - I'd rather have a cabin back deep in the woods if the shtf  skoalyman   Jun-26-08 10:55 PM   #48 
  - I remember the little "Mom and Pop" stores.  davsand   Jun-27-08 11:25 AM   #54 
  - Hmmmm...exurbs, I see disappearing. But not all suburbs.  krabigirl   Jun-26-08 11:23 PM   #51 
  - Ummm... what happened to carpooling?  qwlauren35   Jun-27-08 11:32 AM   #55 
  - One of the problems with people living out in the sticks here: no access to reliable water  XemaSab   Jun-27-08 07:01 PM   #58 
     - Oh shit, I didn't hear there was a fire up there too.  LeftyMom   Jun-27-08 07:24 PM   #60 
        - There have been a couple fires up there  XemaSab   Jun-27-08 08:19 PM   #61 

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