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160. Israel is not the biggest recipient of aid in reality. Not by a long shot
What we give Israel is a drop in the ocean compared to the cost of defending Europe which was as high as 150 billion/year during the cold war, of Japan and S Korea which were as high as 50 billion each a year. This is besides the fact that American blood was put on the line and spilled for defending and fighting for Europe, Japan and S Korea but Israel fought and fights its own wars and never had American troops fighting for it. The money we give it is spent in the US.

We have received many benefits from our relationship with Israel. Israel sent a commando team and captured the latest Soviet air defense system technology and sent it to us.They arranged for a Arab pilot to defect an fly the latest Soviet MIG to Israel. This MIG was a guarded Soviet secret that no one in the west had seen up close let alone posses one to study. There were many such ops.
We also use their Port in Haifa for our Naval ships to base out of. We have various bases to store weapons for quick logistics when and if needed. We use them to test and report on the effectiveness of various weapons. We develop a wide variety of weapons with them. We also have used them to do things we didn't want our fingerprints on. There are many other benefits too numerous to list and contrary to the usual anti Israel propaganda full of omissions and double standards, they have been a great value and comparatively cheap.
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  -CBS News: Israel Prodding U.S. To Attack Iran Purveyor  Jun-24-08 06:29 PM   #0 
  - Joementum is in the Lead on this--  saigon68   Jun-24-08 06:31 PM   #1 
  - I thought the Israelis were smarter than that  Ajaye   Jun-24-08 06:34 PM   #6 
  - Nope.  Joe Bacon   Jun-25-08 12:42 AM   #60 
  - Quite so; and I am sure they would not be so stupid...  LeftishBrit   Jun-25-08 09:40 AM   #84 
  - Iran doesn't have any nukes anyway  proud2Blib   Jun-25-08 02:53 PM   #132 
     - Frightening. Though I doubt that even Bush would nuke Iran...  LeftishBrit   Jun-29-08 02:57 AM   #166 
  - That's why they want us to do it  lark   Jun-25-08 01:43 PM   #98 
     - Fmr. UN ambassador John Bolton 'predicts' Nov/Dec/Jan "surprise"  mojowork_n   Jun-25-08 03:31 PM   #139 
  - The Israelis perhaps. The warmonger Likudniks...No.  Raster   Jun-25-08 03:52 PM   #145 
  - GHOULS  YEBBA   Jun-25-08 03:50 PM   #144 
  - For the love of God --  gateley   Jun-24-08 06:32 PM   #2 
  - Who knows? No one's allowed to read the current NIE to  babylonsister   Jun-24-08 06:37 PM   #9 
  - I know - I actually mentioned the SECRET NIE, but deleted it.  gateley   Jun-24-08 06:43 PM   #12 
  - If there were any progress, the Bush Ad. would've leaked it. nt  Marie26   Jun-24-08 07:41 PM   #28 
  - ElBaradei: "Iran, if it is not already making nuclear weapons, will launch a crash course"  bananas   Jun-24-08 06:56 PM   #18 
  - Playing devil's advocate, if you headed the military in Iran what would YOU do?  truedelphi   Jun-25-08 02:48 PM   #130 
     - That's my point - this is going to escalate. nt  bananas   Jun-26-08 04:40 PM   #163 
  - They just want to have the American war president to back them up.  Kablooie   Jun-25-08 08:54 AM   #73 
  - Isreal "can not do it alone." WTF? Isreal has NUKES for cryin out loud..  paparush   Jun-25-08 01:52 PM   #106 
  - it shocked the shit out of me when I saw an actual story on the network news  NightWatcher   Jun-24-08 06:32 PM   #3 
  - Maybe MSM learned something from Iraq  ShockediSay   Jun-25-08 09:36 AM   #82 
  - Many here have known that this has been coming for some time now....  LakeSamish706   Jun-24-08 06:32 PM   #4 
  - How can anyone be ready for this?  bananas   Jun-24-08 06:33 PM   #5 
  - I'm sure if this happens, you will reconsider that very quickly! n/t  LakeSamish706   Jun-24-08 06:34 PM   #8 
  - The Nice thing about that  JPettus   Jun-24-08 10:56 PM   #54 
     - Could Nawaz Sharif replace Musharraf?  freedomnorth   Jun-25-08 01:13 AM   #61 
        - He would be an improvement, as he is Western-oriented, and  closeupready   Jun-25-08 01:49 PM   #101 
           - Didn't Isreal FLATTEN a Syrian project last year? Wiped it off the face of the earth..  paparush   Jun-25-08 01:54 PM   #108 
              - Right? So, no, they can do this on their own; we can not afford it,  closeupready   Jun-25-08 01:58 PM   #113 
                 - Exactly. If they choose this path of madness, they should walk it alone  paparush   Jun-25-08 02:04 PM   #116 
  - Iraq war was for Israel  grassfed   Jun-24-08 06:34 PM   #7 
  - That's just a button to push  JPettus   Jun-24-08 11:02 PM   #55 
  - Good points.  LeftishBrit   Jun-25-08 09:44 AM   #86 
  - exactly. nt  sweets   Jun-25-08 03:58 PM   #147 
  - Nonsense.  LeftishBrit   Jun-25-08 09:43 AM   #85 
  - Israel To U.S.: Don't Delay Iraq Attack  grassfed   Jun-25-08 10:00 AM   #90 
  - joe klein - neocons gone wild  grassfed   Jun-25-08 10:05 AM   #91 
     - The illusion of dissent from a neocon.  ryanmuegge   Jun-25-08 02:39 PM   #124 
  - saddam hated israel, but  sweets   Jun-25-08 03:57 PM   #146 
  - It's time  PetrusMonsFormicarum   Jun-24-08 06:37 PM   #10 
  - Yes, it is!!  Maureen1322   Jun-24-08 06:54 PM   #17 
  - Mullen and Gates oppose a strike?  MilesColtrane   Jun-24-08 06:40 PM   #11 
  - Mullen's Is Slated To be Replaced In Late August.......With Petrayus!  Binka   Jun-24-08 06:52 PM   #13 
     - Sweet merciful fuck.  MilesColtrane   Jun-24-08 08:11 PM   #34 
  - Imagine another war in the region if Iran were struck by stealth bombers and cruise missiles: who  indepat   Jun-24-08 06:53 PM   #14 
  - Flashback Aug. 2002: Israel To U.S.: Don't Delay Iraq Attack; Sharon Gov't Urges Promp Action...  Purveyor   Jun-24-08 06:53 PM   #15 
  - I'm getting sick of Israel and the influence they have in this country.  Maureen1322   Jun-24-08 06:53 PM   #16 
  - Me too. And it's hard to vocalize...  michele77   Jun-24-08 07:06 PM   #21 
  - They can easily defend themselves against any aggressor.  AngryOldDem   Jun-25-08 09:03 AM   #77 
     - They actually dont hide behind our skirts  Dick Dastardly   Jun-25-08 10:06 PM   #159 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-24-08 08:11 PM   #35 
  - WTF!!??  Maureen1322   Jun-24-08 09:04 PM   #40 
  - That list is bullshit and orginates for an anti-Semitic hate site (Radio Free Islam).  Behind the Aegis   Jun-24-08 09:18 PM   #41 
     - Thanks, I didn't know what was up with that.  Maureen1322   Jun-25-08 05:49 PM   #155 
  - And tired of them leading our 'leaders'  Patchuli   Jun-24-08 10:53 PM   #53 
  - Me three  darkmaestro019   Jun-25-08 01:18 PM   #96 
  - ahhh, the zionists...keeping the regular israelis under the same fear thumb...  islandmkl   Jun-24-08 07:02 PM   #19 
  - Israelis *are* Zionists  rockymountaindem   Jun-25-08 01:46 PM   #99 
  - Likudniks, not Zionists  Taverner   Jun-25-08 02:48 PM   #131 
  - Fuck Israel! Selfish Evil Warmongers!  Megahurtz   Jun-24-08 07:03 PM   #20 
  - They can go it on their own with the weapons...  Hotler   Jun-24-08 07:59 PM   #30 
     - With their biggest Nuclear Arsenal in the World  Megahurtz   Jun-25-08 08:06 PM   #158 
  - Bolton: Israel Will Attack Iran After U.S. Election But Before Inauguration, Arab States Will Be De  bonito   Jun-24-08 07:22 PM   #22 
  - Why are all the pitch men for the Iraq war given any attention at all?  TOJ   Jun-24-08 07:31 PM   #26 
     - Like Emerson Lake And Palmer's - Come On See The Show  bonito   Jun-24-08 08:05 PM   #33 
     - They shouldn't get any air time at all, but we know they will (n/t)  harun   Jun-25-08 08:57 AM   #74 
  - Last night we had a debate about whether Israel "owns us"  TOJ   Jun-24-08 07:29 PM   #23 
  - Ready?  shadowknows69   Jun-24-08 07:30 PM   #24 
  - U.S. to Israel: You do it.  no_hypocrisy   Jun-24-08 07:30 PM   #25 
  - If we piss Iran off enough, they can devastate our Army in Iraq.  tblue37   Jun-24-08 07:41 PM   #27 
  - Then Georgie and the Neocons get to play with their tactical nukes  shadowknows69   Jun-25-08 07:30 AM   #70 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-24-08 07:48 PM   #29 
  - Syria planned to supply Iran with nuclear fuel, Israel says  Scurrilous   Jun-24-08 08:02 PM   #31 
  - Then what's been the point of us supplying Israel with billions of dollars in weapons?  brentspeak   Jun-24-08 08:03 PM   #32 
  - Does anyone actually buy this?  clspector   Jun-24-08 08:17 PM   #36 
  - see #7 and #15  grassfed   Jun-24-08 08:25 PM   #37 
  - Something I found useful..  stillcool47   Jun-24-08 09:35 PM   #45 
  - I agree with you - Big Oil, and certain RW American hawks  LeftishBrit   Jun-25-08 09:38 AM   #83 
  - Israel could do this alone at first.  roamer65   Jun-24-08 08:38 PM   #38 
  - I would comment, but tired of being called anti-semitic  oldskool   Jun-24-08 08:54 PM   #39 
  - Pre-emptive excuse.  Behind the Aegis   Jun-24-08 09:19 PM   #42 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-25-08 02:46 PM   #128 
  - OOO the Russians... BFD  HEyHEY   Jun-25-08 01:51 PM   #103 
     - I did the math on the battle of number with War between USA and China.  Wizard777   Jun-25-08 02:41 PM   #126 
     - Not nuke - trade sanctions  HEyHEY   Jun-25-08 02:59 PM   #135 
     - You didn't do your math very well  whopis01   Jun-25-08 03:36 PM   #140 
        - There are only 300 million people in the USA. The chinese military has 375,009,345  Wizard777   Jun-25-08 06:06 PM   #156 
           - You are off by a factor of about 100 in your figures for the Chinese military.  whopis01   Jun-26-08 10:02 PM   #164 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-25-08 02:55 PM   #133 
  - man....  unkachuck   Jun-24-08 09:26 PM   #43 
  - Unka Dick  DiktatrW   Jun-24-08 10:10 PM   #50 
  - Shock & Awe like never before?  stillcool47   Jun-24-08 09:34 PM   #44 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-24-08 09:38 PM   #46 
  - Anyone speak hebrew?  WilyWondr   Jun-24-08 09:45 PM   #47 
  - Do you truly think Israel is behind this?  TBF   Jun-25-08 09:06 AM   #79 
     - Are top Israeli government folks  lark   Jun-25-08 01:55 PM   #110 
  - Think there is a connection here?  rucognizant   Jun-24-08 09:52 PM   #48 
  - Assassination attempt on Sarkozy,  Ghost Dog   Jun-25-08 02:10 AM   #63 
  - Israel: You first. (speaking to *.  bluesmail   Jun-24-08 09:58 PM   #49 
  - I am so sick of the war drums.  TaffyMoon   Jun-24-08 10:26 PM   #51 
  - What are the capabilities  DiktatrW   Jun-24-08 10:35 PM   #52 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-24-08 11:15 PM   #56 
  - The :"Tampon of America"?  whathehell   Jun-25-08 01:57 PM   #111 
  - Not. Good.  chill_wind   Jun-24-08 11:30 PM   #57 
  - I'm so tired of Israel controlling American foreign policy. n/t  Blue_In_AK   Jun-25-08 12:08 AM   #58 
  - You shouldn't be tired of it since it is not even remotely true. n/t  Behind the Aegis   Jun-25-08 12:17 AM   #59 
  - Not remotely true...  snooper2   Jun-25-08 09:04 AM   #78 
     - Compelling argument.  Behind the Aegis   Jun-25-08 10:56 AM   #93 
        - okay, what's all this mean then...  snooper2   Jun-25-08 12:06 PM   #95 
           - Has it ever occurred to you that maybe our leaders support those things  rockymountaindem   Jun-25-08 01:50 PM   #102 
           - Well....  snooper2   Jun-25-08 02:08 PM   #118 
              - yes, that is a good question--how do we American taxpaying grunts benefit  ima_sinnic   Jun-25-08 02:20 PM   #120 
              - Israel is not the biggest recipient of aid in reality. Not by a long shot  Dick Dastardly   Jun-25-08 10:48 PM   #160 
              - What is Israel providing?  rockymountaindem   Jun-25-08 04:24 PM   #149 
           - thank you for your work in assembling that list, which indicates that congress  ima_sinnic   Jun-25-08 01:58 PM   #112 
           - Oh, it's not my list...  snooper2   Jun-25-08 02:09 PM   #119 
              - Oh the irony  fascisthunter   Jun-25-08 02:25 PM   #121 
           - And yet it still doesn't prove Israel CONTROLS the US.  Behind the Aegis   Jun-25-08 03:23 PM   #137 
           - Represents the hawkishness of the American government...  LeftishBrit   Jun-26-08 07:13 AM   #162 
  - It never did.  LeftishBrit   Jun-25-08 09:48 AM   #87 
  - FIGHT YOUR OWN FRIGGIN' WARS...tough guys. Or, are you just wanting the USA to foot the bill?  NoodleyAppendage   Jun-25-08 01:37 AM   #62 
  - To repeat an earlier post.......  DFW   Jun-25-08 02:20 AM   #64 
  - excellent points  bronxiteforever   Jun-25-08 06:30 AM   #66 
  - Buncha warmongering bastards  martymar64   Jun-25-08 05:59 AM   #65 
  - Personally I vote for cutting off relations with Bush/Cheney completely; starting with Impeachment  TBF   Jun-25-08 09:15 AM   #81 
  - Trying to send the Golem out on one more hit before it returns to dust.  sofa king   Jun-25-08 06:46 AM   #67 
  - .  shadowknows69   Jun-25-08 07:31 AM   #71 
  - Olmert must be trying to save his pathetic legacy.  Crowman1979   Jun-25-08 09:49 AM   #88 
  - Nice reference  martymar64   Jun-25-08 04:36 PM   #150 
  - Israel can do it's own dirty work..  sendero   Jun-25-08 06:55 AM   #68 
  - They did it in Iraq; they can do it in Iran. Iran is not an imminent threat.  closeupready   Jun-25-08 01:51 PM   #105 
  - It will be world war 3 on a very large scale. n/t  Marrah_G   Jun-25-08 07:20 AM   #69 
  - Boy, I've supported Israel before but I might begin to have second thoughts.  Kablooie   Jun-25-08 08:50 AM   #72 
  - I think not attacking Iran is supporting Israel. There will be war all over the  harun   Jun-25-08 08:58 AM   #76 
     - I agree, and so I suspect do most Israelis!  LeftishBrit   Jun-25-08 09:50 AM   #89 
  - Let's nation publicly urging another nation to attack a third nation which has done  LynnTheDem   Jun-25-08 08:58 AM   #75 
  - "Which nation(s) are the "evil doers", I wonder."  OmelasExpat   Jun-25-08 02:40 PM   #125 
  - Cheney is having CBS doing his dirty work this time. I'm surprised he didn't  TBF   Jun-25-08 09:10 AM   #80 
  - Gods, please spare me from hearing Bush try to pronounce "nuclearize".  paparush   Jun-25-08 10:43 AM   #92 
  - ...  TBF   Jun-25-08 01:51 PM   #104 
     - Glad you like that, TBF! :-)  paparush   Jun-25-08 02:06 PM   #117 
  - The Iranians have a vast capability to strike back asymetrically...  Flatulo   Jun-25-08 12:00 PM   #94 
  - Aren't these the bold and tough Israelis that raided Entebbe International?  OmelasExpat   Jun-25-08 01:24 PM   #97 
  - Then attack it your fucking self, Israel.  HEyHEY   Jun-25-08 01:49 PM   #100 
  - The article dishonestly says Israel doesn't have the capability.  closeupready   Jun-25-08 01:54 PM   #107 
     - They know if they DO attack it  HEyHEY   Jun-25-08 02:00 PM   #114 
  - Reading Above  Mark D.   Jun-25-08 01:55 PM   #109 
  - Israel needs to start fighting their own battles  Rudyabdul   Jun-25-08 02:03 PM   #115 
  - Let's you and them fight.  Wizard777   Jun-25-08 02:33 PM   #122 
  - Hey, stupid fucking idiots. The world is not a fucking game of Risk.  Evoman   Jun-25-08 02:37 PM   #123 
  - No it's not. It's actually USA Inc.  Wizard777   Jun-25-08 02:46 PM   #129 
  - Good thing impeachment is off the table. /sarcasm  Nickster   Jun-25-08 02:45 PM   #127 
  - Blackmail.  Poll_Blind   Jun-25-08 02:56 PM   #134 
  - If they do use nukes, then they isolate themselves, and in their neighborhood,  closeupready   Jun-25-08 03:13 PM   #136 
     - Exactly - not to mention the risk of nuclear fallout ultimately affecting Israel itself  LeftishBrit   Jun-25-08 05:11 PM   #152 
  - like our AHOLE-in-chief needs any prodding.... like you have to twist his arm to have a beer  happygoluckytoyou   Jun-25-08 03:24 PM   #138 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-25-08 03:42 PM   #141 
  - I'm VERY nervous about this  MaryEllen71   Jun-25-08 03:46 PM   #142 
  - Just Say No ! /eom  Overseas   Jun-25-08 03:48 PM   #143 
  - When 77% DISAPPROVE of Bush and 93% are AGAINST war with Iran- WHO IS calling the shots if...  Poll_Blind   Jun-25-08 04:22 PM   #148 
  - What are the other explanations if it comes to pass?  LeftishBrit   Jun-25-08 05:15 PM   #153 
  - A good percentage of Iran's nuclear facilities are underground...  kitty1   Jun-25-08 04:51 PM   #151 
  - That's why they want to push and prod the U.S. into doing  Hardrada   Jun-25-08 06:12 PM   #157 
  - Remember the U.S.S. Liberty Israel? We might just make the same "mistake" with you!!!  calipendence   Jun-25-08 05:26 PM   #154 
  - Like you already did with quite a few British soldiers in the Iraq War!  LeftishBrit   Jun-26-08 04:15 AM   #161 
  - As long as Admiral Mullen  Palladin   Jun-28-08 03:03 PM   #165 
  - Scott Ritter Says That We Will  yellowwood   Jun-29-08 06:50 AM   #167 
  - invade Iran in June 2005 ? That the same Great Scottt Ritter ?  ohio2007   Jun-29-08 02:29 PM   #169 
  - Custer. Little Big Horn. Bad idea for Israel.  Zorra   Jun-29-08 10:36 AM   #168 

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