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Fri Jun-20-08 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #53 |
| 55. Read what AU say about it |
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Excerpt: The South Carolina legislature unanimously passed legislation to produce the license plate, and South Carolina Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer said he is willing to put up the required $4,000 to produce the plate, with the money to be reimbursed by the state later. The legislature has not proposed or made available a similar specialty plate for any other faith. Gov. Mark Sanford allowed the bill to become law without his signature. In South Carolina, an individual can apply for a vanity plate less than seven characters long, but symbols and emblems are not permitted. Other specialty plates are created either by DMV approval or through the legislature. Plates approved by the DMV are subject to signification regulations, including "no slogans, names or other text." http://www.au.org/site/News2?JServSessionIdr009=u8v5hu2... There are already perfectly good bumper stickers which Christians can use to advertise their faith, so I suspect the attraction of these plates is their aura of state approval. The subtext is not "I believe", but "the state believes". |
| -Group Files Suit Over 'I Believe' Plates in SC |
Hissyspit |
Jun-19-08 09:56 PM |
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if that then people should be able to have "I DON'T believe" plates too nt |
msongs |
Jun-19-08 09:58 PM |
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Well not really. |
The Liberal Thinker |
Jun-19-08 10:10 PM |
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Separation of Church & State provides for non-religion . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-19-08 10:54 PM |
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Yeah, sure, but... |
The Liberal Thinker |
Jun-20-08 12:18 AM |
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More abrasive? |
frog92969 |
Jun-20-08 12:26 AM |
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Yeah, the statement lends itself to trying to piss Christians off. |
The Liberal Thinker |
Jun-20-08 12:37 AM |
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Then Christians will just have to be pissed off. |
frog92969 |
Jun-20-08 01:36 AM |
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I understand what you're saying |
leftynyc |
Jun-20-08 07:24 AM |
#32 |
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Stop the Pol Pot and Stalin meme |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jun-20-08 08:58 AM |
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Not the point |
leftynyc |
Jun-20-08 09:28 AM |
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Organized patriarchal religion begins with a war on women . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-20-08 04:00 PM |
#58 |
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Please see my post 43 n/t |
MindPilot |
Jun-20-08 09:38 AM |
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It's not "imposing their religion on you" --- |
defendandprotect |
Jun-20-08 03:55 PM |
#57 |
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Minor point: |
tomg |
Jun-22-08 10:10 AM |
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Catholicism killed 3/4 of the population of Europe during the Black Death... |
Zhade |
Jun-21-08 07:49 PM |
#91 |
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None on them were Atheist... |
and-justice-for-all |
Jul-12-08 06:38 PM |
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In my opinion it is much to do about nothing. I would probably |
JeanGrey |
Jul-13-08 06:56 PM |
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The difference here, IIRC, is that this plate got its start in the legislature - the gov't itself |
petronius |
Jul-14-08 01:50 PM |
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Oh no, mustn't state different opinon than the Christians! |
JNelson6563 |
Jun-20-08 06:40 AM |
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And some so-called "christians" don't piss others off |
TommyO |
Jun-20-08 09:01 AM |
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The "I Believe" plates piss me off, and you do, too. |
Oregonian |
Jun-20-08 10:34 AM |
#48 |
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My opinion is that these methods are simply another way of . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-20-08 03:49 PM |
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If it pisses them off, tough. MY rights aren't abrogated because THEY don't like how I use them! |
Zhade |
Jun-21-08 07:46 PM |
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Not piss atheists off? They're using OUR tax dollars, of course it pisses us off! |
Zhade |
Jun-21-08 07:47 PM |
#90 |
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That's the point... |
Lost-in-FL |
Jun-22-08 08:33 AM |
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Can you please explain why faith is considered a virtue? |
MindPilot |
Jun-20-08 09:53 AM |
#46 |
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Eh . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-20-08 03:44 PM |
#54 |
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Not anymore abrasive than this plate is to anyone who is not a xtian. |
Thor_MN |
Jul-12-08 02:13 PM |
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You're kidding, right? Anti-religion. |
Hissyspit |
Jun-19-08 11:58 PM |
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No, I'm not kidding. |
The Liberal Thinker |
Jun-20-08 12:20 AM |
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The Bill of Rights: |
Hissyspit |
Jun-20-08 12:36 AM |
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Really? |
The Liberal Thinker |
Jun-20-08 12:40 AM |
#19 |
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I wasn't mocking it. |
Hissyspit |
Jun-20-08 01:41 AM |
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Why are you so thin skinned, and why do you think |
Oregonian |
Jun-20-08 10:35 AM |
#49 |
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It's a simple statement of fact: I don't believe. |
Zhade |
Jun-21-08 07:58 PM |
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Then I'm sure you wouldn't mind a Pentagram plate that says, |
New Dawn |
Jun-20-08 01:24 AM |
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The reality is that if you were |
leftynyc |
Jun-20-08 07:26 AM |
#34 |
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this plate with a cross |
Goblinmonger |
Jun-20-08 11:12 AM |
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Are you saying that anyone |
leftynyc |
Jun-20-08 11:18 AM |
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No -- I think the poster was simply telling you that it is an attempt |
defendandprotect |
Jun-20-08 04:14 PM |
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No, I'm not |
Goblinmonger |
Jun-20-08 10:37 PM |
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No -- license plates involve GOVERNMENT . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-20-08 04:12 PM |
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Why would he? If you want a license plate like that, knock |
JeanGrey |
Jul-13-08 07:45 PM |
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It isn't "anti-religion".... |
DeSwiss |
Jun-20-08 01:28 AM |
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Bullshit. It's freedom Of and FROM religion. |
Zhade |
Jun-21-08 07:45 PM |
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Its only fair ;) ... Watch that never happen |
raystorm7 |
Jun-19-08 10:11 PM |
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No... either "I think" or "I know" should be the alternative |
LiberalFighter |
Jun-19-08 11:01 PM |
#9 |
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Or at least a license plate that tells the WHOLE truth: |
DeSwiss |
Jun-20-08 01:37 AM |
#23 |
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You are my internet hero for the day. |
MPK |
Jun-20-08 04:04 AM |
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You're a heathen |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jun-20-08 09:01 AM |
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Can we get them to address the "Choose Life" plates in Ohio next? |
MercutioATC |
Jun-19-08 09:58 PM |
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How about . . . "Choose women's lives" ---- ??? |
defendandprotect |
Jun-20-08 04:16 PM |
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Well, they can keep choose life, but only |
tomg |
Jun-22-08 10:28 AM |
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I want a plate that says... |
Rick Myers |
Jun-19-08 10:08 PM |
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What the hell do they have against Tinkerbell?! |
TWriterD |
Jun-19-08 10:53 PM |
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*THAT* I would buy! |
AmyDeLune |
Jun-20-08 01:54 AM |
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Excellent! |
Nihil |
Jun-23-08 09:22 AM |
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In Florida we have plates with the word DEVIL on them. |
Carnea |
Jun-19-08 10:56 PM |
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Interesting timing.... |
Bigmack |
Jun-19-08 11:15 PM |
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Barry Lynn = Best Reverend Ever. nt |
greyl |
Jun-19-08 11:32 PM |
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A lawsuit. Gee, I didn't see that coming |
bluestateguy |
Jun-19-08 11:34 PM |
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Exactly. This was done deliberately |
Canuckistanian |
Jun-20-08 08:36 AM |
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K&R!!! |
DeSwiss |
Jun-20-08 01:39 AM |
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Apparently not. |
frog92969 |
Jun-20-08 01:45 AM |
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Actually Fundy God is quite busy |
tomg |
Jun-22-08 10:40 AM |
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"I don't believe" is an abrasive statement? |
onager |
Jun-20-08 03:52 AM |
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Smart people, those Czechs. Smarter than, oh, 85% of people in this country. |
Zhade |
Jun-21-08 08:06 PM |
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Instead of letting people buy these Christian plates, |
fasttense |
Jun-20-08 06:21 AM |
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Funny . .. |
defendandprotect |
Jun-20-08 04:18 PM |
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Unmittigated Bullshit. |
Tyler Durden |
Jun-20-08 07:24 AM |
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I want this one to say "I Believe" |
Tesla |
Jun-20-08 08:19 AM |
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I WANT TO BELIEVE! |
slackmaster |
Jun-20-08 09:00 AM |
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Even if they make ALL religious symbols available |
MindPilot |
Jun-20-08 09:31 AM |
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I don't think so |
leftynyc |
Jun-20-08 09:49 AM |
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Because the DMV is a government agency |
MindPilot |
Jun-20-08 10:01 AM |
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Uh, yeah they are - if they use ONE PENNY to manufacture ANYTHING that endorses religion... |
Zhade |
Jun-21-08 08:08 PM |
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Your conclusion may well not follow. |
igil |
Jun-20-08 03:21 PM |
#53 |
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Read what AU say about it |
moggie |
Jun-20-08 03:48 PM |
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use the approved symbols from military graves |
galledgoblin |
Jul-13-08 07:01 PM |
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Put stickers over the "Be" and "ve" |
Progs Rock |
Jun-20-08 08:52 AM |
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I believe...we are regressing. |
progressoid |
Jun-20-08 11:34 AM |
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WHY? Just buy a separate plate for the FRONT end of the car for those who want a religious symbol |
1Hippiechick |
Jun-20-08 11:53 PM |
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South Carolina being sued over Holy number plates that carry the image of a cross |
emad |
Jun-21-08 06:20 PM |
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I'm a Mahlerian |
chromotone |
Jun-21-08 06:20 PM |
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I want Algore on mine |
ileus |
Jun-21-08 06:20 PM |
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I want Ceiling Cat. nt |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jun-21-08 06:20 PM |
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He's a fake cat! |
Dr.Phool |
Jun-21-08 06:20 PM |
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BLASPHEMER!!! |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jun-21-08 06:21 PM |
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I want my plate to have.... |
jdadd |
Jun-21-08 06:20 PM |
#68 |
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Issuing plates with a Christian theme clearly gives preference and implied approval to one religion. |
elocs |
Jun-21-08 06:20 PM |
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Can I get one with a Darwin fish and the words "I think"? |
cobalt1999 |
Jun-21-08 06:20 PM |
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Ugh.... I don't understand this at all! |
moose65 |
Jun-21-08 06:20 PM |
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Here's how I understand it |
laptoprepairguy |
Jun-21-08 06:21 PM |
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I want a plate with the image of "Baghwan Bill". |
Dr.Phool |
Jun-21-08 06:20 PM |
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My plate reads; "I hate all fucking religions". |
pattmarty |
Jun-21-08 06:20 PM |
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I demand physical representation of His Noodly Appendage appear on my license plate! |
PassingFair |
Jun-21-08 06:21 PM |
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IM4 FSM (vanity plate). n/t |
daleo |
Jun-21-08 06:21 PM |
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Isn't NOT having a religious emblem on a plate, |
Dr.Phool |
Jun-21-08 06:21 PM |
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What a fucking redundancy! |
hyphenate |
Jun-21-08 06:21 PM |
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Whats the big deal?? |
surf |
Jun-21-08 06:21 PM |
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." |
evilkumquat |
Jun-21-08 06:21 PM |
#81 |
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What is the point |
az chela |
Jun-21-08 06:21 PM |
#84 |
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Separation of church and state isn't a popularity contest |
RainDog |
Jul-12-08 09:36 PM |
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The "whatever" is the problem, Surf |
jmowreader |
Jul-13-08 06:51 PM |
#107 |
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"I Believe in Straight Marriage" |
wtmusic |
Jun-21-08 06:21 PM |
#83 |
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Barf me with a spoon |
az chela |
Jun-21-08 06:21 PM |
#85 |
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Actually that's "Barf out! Gag me with a spoon!" |
Gentle Giant |
Jun-21-08 07:19 PM |
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If you pay the dough, you get the plate |
JVS |
Jun-22-08 08:49 AM |
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Are they doing this so Christian drivers get a pass |
Politicub |
Jun-22-08 09:50 AM |
#97 |
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ha! |
galledgoblin |
Jul-13-08 07:03 PM |
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One can always get... |
RNdaSilva |
Jun-22-08 06:08 PM |
#101 |
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We have a similar plate here in Indiana... |
and-justice-for-all |
Jul-12-08 06:35 PM |
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Except for the trite design, this is what "I believe" reminds me of: |
Straight Shooter |
Jul-14-08 05:13 PM |
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Totally improper. |
Megahurtz |
Jul-14-08 05:32 PM |
#114 |
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