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35. She's got terminal brain cancer and has had a leg amputated.
Do you really think she's a threat?
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  - Ex-Manson follower dying, seeks release from prison (Susan Atkins) Amerigo Vespucci  Jun-13-08 03:07 PM   #0 
  - Let her out  Scairp   Jun-13-08 03:15 PM   #1 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-13-08 07:29 PM   #62 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-13-08 10:48 PM   #79 
  - No one deserves to die like that  DBoon   Jun-13-08 11:24 PM   #83 
     - Well, at least in prison she is getting medical care.  Benhurst   Jun-14-08 07:28 AM   #112 
     - In addition to medical care  Twig   Jun-14-08 03:19 PM   #131 
        - Ever been to prison ?  Flagg   Jun-14-08 06:14 PM   #138 
     - Excuse me? Why is that? She BUTCHERED someone and  JeanGrey   Jun-15-08 10:34 PM   #184 
     - Neither did the people they murdered. Sorry but she stays in prison. nt  Javaman   Jul-11-08 10:12 AM   #233 
  - For all those waxing mercy for this bunch, go to:  JeanGrey   Jun-17-08 12:14 AM   #200 
  - Hopefully they release her  Robbien   Jun-13-08 03:15 PM   #2 
  - "I told her I didn't have mercy for her," she said.  ben_meyers   Jun-13-08 03:15 PM   #3 
  - The judge should ask Sharon Tate and her unborn baby, butchered like hogs, what THEY think.  Amerigo Vespucci   Jun-13-08 03:21 PM   #6 
  - whatever.  crikkett   Jun-13-08 09:46 PM   #77 
     - Neither can I. So to you, "whatever" (said in the dumbest voice that this unintelligent remark  superconnected   Jun-14-08 02:20 AM   #96 
        - well excuuuuuuse me for realizing that I had nothing useful to say  crikkett   Jun-15-08 01:38 PM   #166 
           - Yeah, the eyes definitely suit the mentality.  superconnected   Jun-17-08 05:41 PM   #212 
  - Amen. And I mean that in  mr_hat   Jun-13-08 03:29 PM   #9 
  - 100% agree.  closeupready   Jun-13-08 03:38 PM   #12 
  - Hmmm  Scairp   Jun-13-08 03:46 PM   #16 
  - If I'm not mistaken, she is the last of them to show no regret to her actions.  Feeney2   Jun-13-08 04:29 PM   #23 
  - Oh, you've spoken to her have you?  Scairp   Jun-13-08 06:44 PM   #52 
     - Shes documented as not showing regret for years.  superconnected   Jun-14-08 02:29 AM   #97 
        - So what is her state of mind now?  Scairp   Jun-15-08 01:50 AM   #146 
        - Anyone who says...  tidy_bowl   Jun-15-08 09:33 PM   #182 
        - It DOESN'T MATTER. That only matters to her maker  JeanGrey   Jun-15-08 10:36 PM   #186 
        - Shall we ask Gary Ridgway(the green river killer) what his state of mind is now too and  superconnected   Jun-17-08 05:38 PM   #211 
        - This is patently false...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Jun-15-08 09:05 AM   #156 
           - What makes you think being a born again Christian means a damn thing  zonmoy   Jun-15-08 01:47 PM   #167 
           - You don't have to be a Christian to be small-minded and intolerant...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Jun-15-08 08:35 PM   #180 
           - So all you have to do is say "I'm sorry"  Mystery2Me   Jun-15-08 05:35 PM   #176 
              - I think if you check her record...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Jun-15-08 08:39 PM   #181 
                 - So her parents drank. So what? Think she's the only one who  JeanGrey   Jun-16-08 08:47 AM   #193 
                    - It's clearly made you the person you are today...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Jun-16-08 04:49 PM   #198 
                       - Well it certainly made me strong, and self sufficient.  JeanGrey   Jun-17-08 12:10 AM   # 
                       - and vindictive...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Jun-17-08 06:21 AM   #205 
                          - I have a strange way of having no empathy for butchers.  JeanGrey   Jun-17-08 08:23 AM   #206 
                             - When I say a lack of empathy...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Jun-17-08 05:25 PM   #208 
                       - DUPLICATE  JeanGrey   Jun-17-08 12:10 AM   #199 
  - Fuck her.  Dreamer Tatum   Jun-14-08 01:16 AM   #89 
     - How can someone do that to the victims' families?  ninety lives   Jun-15-08 07:37 AM   #149 
  - Well...can't say much more than that.....if she does have brain  MadMaddie   Jun-13-08 08:21 PM   #69 
  - My mother died of brain cancer. And never killed anyone.  mycritters2   Jun-14-08 01:08 PM   #128 
  - why didn't god speak when she was butchering those people? n/t  Skittles   Jun-22-08 06:04 PM   #232 
  - "Burn in hell."  depakid   Jun-22-08 11:43 AM   #226 
  - If they cut her loose, CA won't have to pay her massive medical bills  bluestateguy   Jun-13-08 03:19 PM   #4 
  - Not completely correct  Semi_subversive   Jun-13-08 05:11 PM   #33 
     - Perhaps the Manson Family has a good HMO?  Freddie Stubbs   Jun-16-08 10:47 AM   #195 
  - Let her out.  End Of The Road   Jun-13-08 03:20 PM   #5 
  - Too bad. There's this thing called punishment.  tabasco   Jun-13-08 07:31 PM   #63 
     - Where did we get this culture of permanent punishment?  End Of The Road   Jun-13-08 07:41 PM   #67 
        - Even if she is still a monster  DBoon   Jun-13-08 11:26 PM   #84 
        - She deserves compasssion, but not freedom.  girl gone mad   Jun-14-08 02:37 AM   #100 
        - Do you really mean to write this: "compassion for the evil"  barb162   Jun-17-08 10:29 PM   #217 
        - Ah  np33   Jun-14-08 01:44 AM   #91 
        - Has she appologized yet? She was showing no regret for at least the  superconnected   Jun-14-08 02:31 AM   #98 
        - More than fair trade: life in prison rather than being put to death  1Hippiechick   Jun-14-08 06:09 PM   #136 
  - Susan Atkins, aka "Sadie Mae Glutz". . .  Journeyman   Jun-13-08 03:25 PM   #7 
  - She's a mass murderer. She shouldn't be let out. Falling under the  applegrove   Jun-13-08 03:27 PM   #8 
  - No one said it's an excuse  Scairp   Jun-13-08 06:56 PM   #54 
     - How many people did they kill? 3 adults and a baby I think. And they've only spend 40 years in  applegrove   Jun-13-08 08:34 PM   #71 
     - 7 documented, and estimated to be more - at least two runaways added to that.  superconnected   Jun-14-08 02:34 AM   #99 
     - Wonder how many years Shrub should get?  1Hippiechick   Jun-14-08 06:10 PM   #137 
     - I've been young and vulnerable.  girl gone mad   Jun-14-08 02:40 AM   #101 
  - Some people deserve mercy.  Dr.Phool   Jun-13-08 03:30 PM   #10 
  - Ditto.  JeanGrey   Jun-13-08 04:31 PM   #25 
  - Let her rot  Phred42   Jun-13-08 03:32 PM   #11 
  - Unless you have seen actual footage of what these bastards did to innocent people, STFU!  raystorm7   Jun-13-08 04:11 PM   #18 
     - uhh  lakercub   Jun-16-08 11:14 AM   #196 
  - Having read a lot about The Manson Case...  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Jun-13-08 03:40 PM   #13 
  - Oh, but women have no volition of their own - they must have been controlled by a Svengali-like male  kineta   Jun-13-08 06:29 PM   #45 
  - Exactly.  Chovexani   Jun-17-08 04:37 AM   #203 
  - WTF?  NM Independent   Jun-13-08 03:41 PM   #14 
  - Don't hold back!!  ronnykmarshall   Jun-13-08 04:06 PM   #17 
  - You believe in hell?  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-13-08 06:22 PM   #42 
  - You've gone and done it.  geomon666   Jun-13-08 06:31 PM   #48 
  - While that made me chuckle...  NM Independent   Jun-13-08 09:13 PM   #75 
     - I don't want to destry religion  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-13-08 10:18 PM   #78 
  - Someday you will find yourself in hell  DBoon   Jun-13-08 11:28 PM   #85 
     - Maybe  NM Independent   Jun-14-08 03:05 AM   # 
     - Maybe  NM Independent   Jun-14-08 03:05 AM   #104 
     - Mirrors in hell?  clixtox   Jun-14-08 03:24 AM   #108 
        - Say what, now?  NM Independent   Jun-15-08 08:37 AM   #155 
           - Nobody gives a rat's ass....  clixtox   Jun-15-08 09:34 AM   #159 
  - Let her out  workinclasszero   Jun-13-08 03:41 PM   #15 
  - So no one here  SheilaT   Jun-13-08 04:16 PM   #19 
  - Maybe she can, but can you really ever trust someone who did what she did?  slackmaster   Jun-13-08 04:22 PM   #20 
  - She's got terminal brain cancer and has had a leg amputated.  mycritters2   Jun-13-08 05:42 PM   #35 
     - I don't know if she's a threat or not  slackmaster   Jun-13-08 06:18 PM   #41 
     - Oh please  Scairp   Jun-13-08 06:59 PM   #56 
        - OK, then fucking let her rot in prison  slackmaster   Jun-14-08 10:35 AM   #119 
     - Again  np33   Jun-14-08 01:46 AM   #92 
     - You call it punishment. I call it revenge.  mycritters2   Jun-14-08 12:13 PM   #123 
     - No, actually it's above removing a threat to society.  Gormy Cuss   Jun-15-08 09:20 AM   #158 
     - Even if she is parolled she's not going leave the hospital.  ronnykmarshall   Jun-14-08 10:02 AM   #115 
  - Without question, absolutely.  Melinda   Jun-13-08 04:27 PM   #21 
  - Of course they can. But getting out of jail isn't part of the deal.  Feeney2   Jun-13-08 04:30 PM   #24 
  - She's dying. She'll never really be out of jail whether she's in or out. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jun-13-08 06:03 PM   #36 
  - That is up to God, not us.  JeanGrey   Jun-13-08 04:33 PM   #26 
  - Jesus said "Blessed are the merciful." I'm pretty sure he meant us. nt  mycritters2   Jun-14-08 12:15 PM   #124 
     - We have LAWS. If she is truly saved, she will have her  JeanGrey   Jun-15-08 10:42 PM   #187 
  - I'm not aware that she has expressed any remorse at all  bluestateguy   Jun-13-08 04:47 PM   #28 
  - Sure they can, but her sentence says that she does it in a cage.  shadowknows69   Jun-13-08 04:51 PM   #30 
  - Sure, but not in this case.  geomon666   Jun-13-08 04:52 PM   #31 
  - IMO  Wagara   Jun-13-08 06:29 PM   #46 
     - Well I didn't say it'd be like dying at the Hilton.  geomon666   Jun-13-08 06:34 PM   #49 
  - Please  Baby Snooks   Jun-13-08 06:26 PM   #44 
  - Doris Tate Crime Victims Bureau and the Prison Guard union  madmusic   Jun-13-08 08:40 PM   #73 
  - You have obviously never been a victim...  Baby Snooks   Jun-14-08 12:30 AM   #87 
     - www.ican-foundation.org is a good thing overall  madmusic   Jun-14-08 11:26 AM   #121 
  - I have met one of those people  psychopomp   Jun-14-08 04:40 AM   #110 
  - I never heard that Doris met with Manson.  ronnykmarshall   Jun-14-08 10:14 AM   #117 
  - Of course they can.  NYC Liberal   Jun-13-08 08:26 PM   #70 
  - If she's repented and been forgiven  JNelson6563   Jun-14-08 10:34 AM   #118 
  - Interesting that you quote (misquote, imo) Paul, but not Jesus. nt  mycritters2   Jun-14-08 12:18 PM   #125 
     - I know, it sucks  JNelson6563   Jun-14-08 01:14 PM   #129 
        - I think it is "enlightened". It calls for mercy for all, not just the repentent.  mycritters2   Jun-14-08 01:19 PM   #130 
  - Repentence not sufficient  lolly   Jun-15-08 01:43 AM   #145 
  - you can repent and be forgiven while still accepting the consequences of your actions nt  frickaline   Jun-15-08 08:32 AM   #154 
  - She still is getting six more months than the people they slaughtered.  Feeney2   Jun-13-08 04:27 PM   #22 
  - Did you give your victims a compassionate release?  shadowknows69   Jun-13-08 04:44 PM   #27 
  - Sure, you can go  TOJ   Jun-13-08 04:49 PM   #29 
  - I'm glad it's not up to me. I hope they won't release her, though  Glorfindel   Jun-13-08 05:05 PM   #32 
  - If she has brain cancer. . .  cyr330   Jun-13-08 05:37 PM   #34 
  - Let Her Die In Prison  demwing   Jun-13-08 06:04 PM   #37 
  - "Manson Family Today"  Forrest Greene   Jun-13-08 06:06 PM   #38 
  - ..it seemed like a good idea at the time to -> KILL PIGS  ohio2007   Jun-13-08 06:07 PM   #39 
  - Unbelievable  Baby Snooks   Jun-13-08 06:09 PM   #40 
  - Someone that never recovered from that was Mrs. Champan.  ronnykmarshall   Jun-14-08 10:11 AM   #116 
  - Her husband is her lawyer?  latebloomer   Jun-13-08 06:23 PM   #43 
  - Another spawn from Hell  Baby Snooks   Jun-13-08 06:37 PM   #50 
  - You are, quite literally, insane  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-13-08 10:52 PM   #80 
     - What he is  Baby Snooks   Jun-14-08 12:26 AM   #86 
        - Kooky  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-14-08 02:02 AM   #95 
  - Yeah, what the heck is up with THAT??  kath   Jun-14-08 01:34 AM   #90 
  - the manson murderers  northernlights   Jun-13-08 06:30 PM   #47 
  - As you say, I think of the wasted resources...  InvisibleTouch   Jun-13-08 07:36 PM   #64 
     - You do realize multiple studies have proven the DP is more expensive?  Chovexani   Jun-17-08 04:32 AM   #202 
  - Release her -- shackled to a gurney -- to Roman Polanski's personal custody...  johnfunk   Jun-13-08 06:40 PM   #51 
  - Oops  madmusic   Jun-13-08 06:49 PM   #53 
  - Well, he has his own legal problems now doesn't he?  Scairp   Jun-13-08 07:04 PM   #57 
  - I was going to say...  Fighting Irish   Jun-14-08 03:09 AM   #105 
     - ROTFLMFAO  johnfunk   Jun-14-08 07:21 PM   #139 
  - ok... let's check out the "race card".... if she was a black man? if she was a redneck? sorry..  happygoluckytoyou   Jun-13-08 06:58 PM   #55 
  - No.  brentspeak   Jun-13-08 07:12 PM   #58 
  - In 2002 she filed suit against the government  bronxiteforever   Jun-13-08 07:13 PM   #59 
  - She should receive the same kind of mercy she gave Sharon Tate, her child, and the others.  WakeMeUp   Jun-13-08 07:22 PM   #60 
  - I agree  Fighting Irish   Jun-14-08 03:16 AM   #107 
     - I used to be rabid about "Let them FRY"  Twig   Jun-14-08 04:42 PM   #132 
  - The article also says that Prosecutor Bugliosi has no objection to her release.  edbermac   Jun-13-08 07:25 PM   #61 
  - Bugliosi is a bleeding heart liberal.  madmusic   Jun-13-08 08:34 PM   #72 
  - The hidden justice  Baby Snooks   Jun-14-08 12:42 AM   #88 
     - Compassion and sympathy  madmusic   Jun-14-08 11:51 AM   #122 
        - Thank you  Scairp   Jun-15-08 01:53 AM   #147 
           - The key is wisdom  madmusic   Jun-16-08 11:31 AM   #197 
  - Sadly, I must vote "no" to release....  catnhatnh   Jun-13-08 07:36 PM   #65 
  - Vengeance, retribution, punishment, ... are cheap forms of justice.  Festivito   Jun-13-08 07:38 PM   #66 
  - How is keeping a mass murderer in prison, vengence?  superconnected   Jun-14-08 02:41 AM   #102 
  - ...because it is to punish... not heal... What would be V to you?  Festivito   Jun-14-08 09:04 AM   #114 
  - Out of sensitivity to the friends and families of the victims....  ninety lives   Jun-15-08 07:33 AM   #148 
  - So is everyone who goes to jail uh... really paying actually the price of vengence?  superconnected   Jun-17-08 05:45 PM   #213 
     - A rather glib use of "everyone."  Festivito   Jun-22-08 08:53 AM   #224 
  - It is when the law allows for parole  Scairp   Jun-15-08 07:01 PM   #179 
     - Vengeance in NOT unconstitutional.  Festivito   Jun-22-08 08:59 AM   #225 
  - "pushed into heinous actions"  barb162   Jun-17-08 10:34 PM   #218 
     - Manson. And try google on milgrim experiments./nt  Festivito   Jun-22-08 08:49 AM   #223 
  - Let her go to a hospice where her family can stay with her.  bitchkitty   Jun-13-08 07:43 PM   #68 
  - Let her go for christs sake.  moobu2   Jun-13-08 08:40 PM   #74 
  - is this woman, 'squeaky'? --oops nevermind she's not.  crikkett   Jun-13-08 09:43 PM   #76 
  - Ironically, Atkins is the reason Manson and his crew are even in prison  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-13-08 11:08 PM   #81 
  - Reasonable Post  treestar   Jun-14-08 10:40 AM   #120 
  - Nice to see a voice of reason. Thank you. nt  mycritters2   Jun-14-08 12:20 PM   #126 
  - "compassionate release"  SillyFlower   Jun-13-08 11:20 PM   #82 
  - It's one thing to be compassionate, it's another to be stupid. n/t  smiley_glad_hands   Jun-14-08 01:47 AM   #93 
  - Also  np33   Jun-14-08 01:56 AM   #94 
  - Let her rot in prison  Fighting Irish   Jun-14-08 02:56 AM   #103 
  - no mercy.  PittPoliSci   Jun-14-08 03:15 AM   #106 
  - why life without parole in this case?  PittPoliSci   Jun-14-08 04:00 AM   #109 
  - She wasn't sentenced to life without parole  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-14-08 05:19 PM   #133 
     - tell me honestly...  PittPoliSci   Jun-18-08 03:26 AM   #222 
        - Who says the swearing was unnecessary?  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-22-08 12:55 PM   #230 
  - Just as soon as Sharon Tate gets a compassionate release from death.  Lasher   Jun-14-08 05:24 AM   #111 
  - Sorry, Susan, you need to stay where you are -  lynne   Jun-14-08 08:38 AM   #113 
  - Any prisoner in the system can petition for compassionate release  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-14-08 05:21 PM   #134 
  - Less than six months to live....  AngryOldDem   Jun-14-08 12:27 PM   #127 
  - Okay  np33   Jun-14-08 05:28 PM   #135 
  - Get a clue  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-14-08 10:24 PM   #141 
  - Good job  np33   Jun-15-08 11:22 AM   #161 
  - I'm not advocating for Ms. Atkins  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-15-08 12:01 PM   #163 
     - No  np33   Jun-15-08 12:27 PM   #164 
        - Huh?  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-15-08 01:48 PM   #168 
           - Okay  np33   Jun-15-08 04:37 PM   #173 
              - That's the nub of the issue  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-15-08 07:00 PM   #178 
  - I didn't know she has been in prison longer than any other woman...  AngryOldDem   Jun-15-08 10:34 PM   #185 
     - Van Houten actually saw some release time during her retrial  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-15-08 11:22 PM   #188 
  - On second thought, you're right.  AngryOldDem   Jun-15-08 10:31 PM   #183 
  - Sharon's mother, father and youngest sister are dead  Skittles   Jun-17-08 08:29 PM   #215 
  - Was she compassionate to her victims?  HypnoToad   Jun-14-08 07:23 PM   #140 
  - The appeals to pathos on this thread are why we have a justice system, not a vengeance system.  asthmaticeog   Jun-14-08 10:53 PM   #142 
  - I may never say this on DU again, and somebody should bookmark this for later blackmail  LeftyMom   Jun-15-08 12:07 AM   #144 
  - Wait, but isn't TEX WATSON getting out? Why no outrage there?  readmoreoften   Jun-17-08 05:58 AM   #204 
  - I agree with you, however....  ninety lives   Jun-15-08 07:45 AM   #150 
  - Application of objective criteria is the same process as racism, then?  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-15-08 07:50 AM   #151 
  - No. It's not possible to be angry and sober minded at the same time.  sfexpat2000   Jun-15-08 02:17 PM   #170 
  - Unless human beings  np33   Jun-15-08 01:32 PM   #165 
  - Three!  asthmaticeog   Jun-15-08 04:33 PM   #172 
     - In your last  np33   Jun-15-08 04:43 PM   #174 
        - That is in fact how it was  asthmaticeog   Jun-15-08 04:47 PM   #175 
        - You say it like it's a bad thing  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-16-08 09:46 AM   #194 
  - It's frightening AND sickening. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jun-15-08 02:18 PM   #171 
  - Let her rot.  silverojo   Jun-15-08 12:02 AM   #143 
  - It is not about punishment, it is about containment  frickaline   Jun-15-08 08:00 AM   #152 
  - She has to serve her sentence, even until her death.  robcon   Jun-15-08 08:12 AM   #153 
  - Her sentence stipulates opportunities for parole  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-15-08 10:38 AM   #160 
     - Boy, you really over-reacted with a long response.  robcon   Jun-16-08 06:52 AM   #191 
     - It is very obvious to many of us that they should not even  JeanGrey   Jun-17-08 12:26 AM   #201 
     - That may be obvious to you, but it was the sentence, and she does come up for parole  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-17-08 11:09 PM   #220 
     - At the time of her sentence she was sentenced to the death penalty  superconnected   Jun-17-08 05:33 PM   #209 
     - Spurious all the way around  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-17-08 11:12 PM   #221 
     - Parole for murder?  Ayesha   Jun-17-08 09:46 PM   #216 
        - Perhaps so, perhaps not  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-17-08 11:07 PM   #219 
  - A one-legged sexagenarian with brain cancer on a killing rampage? I don't think so, Tim.  Seabiscuit   Jun-15-08 09:20 AM   #157 
  - Fatuous Post of the Day Award Winner  Dreamer Tatum   Jun-15-08 11:29 AM   #162 
     - IOW, she's there to be punished. Not to protect us, and not for rehabilitation.  Seabiscuit   Jun-16-08 02:58 AM   #190 
  - Here's the thing . . .  JustAnotherGen   Jun-15-08 01:58 PM   #169 
  - If you can't do the time, don't do the crime  Mystery2Me   Jun-15-08 05:38 PM   #177 
  - I say let her rot till she dies in jail  jzodda   Jun-16-08 12:31 AM   #189 
  - I'll side with the let her rot crowd.  mainegreen   Jun-16-08 08:24 AM   #192 
  - let her die in the prison hospital n/t  Scout   Jun-17-08 11:17 AM   #207 
  - Others who've committed worse crimes  fbahrami   Jun-17-08 05:35 PM   #210 
  - Sharon tate was 26 when she died. Atkins is 60 and dying of natural causes  superconnected   Jun-17-08 05:54 PM   #214 
  - "Look, bitch, I don't care about you! You're going to die, and I don't feel anything about it!"  chatnoir   Jun-22-08 11:46 AM   #227 
  - If You Deliberately Take a Life You Should Remain in Prison for Life  katerinasmommy   Jun-22-08 12:43 PM   #228 
  - That's a nice opinion, though it doesn't happen to be the law  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-22-08 12:54 PM   #229 
  - If I'm on the parole board...  RNdaSilva   Jun-22-08 04:48 PM   #231 
 

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