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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 01:37 PM
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14. Why will there be more gun violence?
The laws never took effect.
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  -Judge strikes down some Philadelphia gun laws (PA) davepc  Jun-04-08 12:39 PM   #0 
  - Philadelphia was trying to usurp the authority of the state  michreject   Jun-04-08 12:52 PM   #1 
  - The state has no rights there either, under the Constitution.  bean fidhleir   Jun-04-08 02:13 PM   #23 
     - The state has powers  michreject   Jun-05-08 10:23 AM   #47 
     - Fair catch. (nt)  bean fidhleir   Jun-06-08 01:08 PM   #53 
     - How do you figure?  KevinJ   Jun-05-08 10:41 AM   #49 
        - Of course I'm referring to the Second Amendment  bean fidhleir   Jun-06-08 01:36 PM   #55 
           - If that's what the framers intended...  KevinJ   Jun-06-08 03:13 PM   #56 
              - They apparently couldn't imagine a future in which the language would  bean fidhleir   Jun-06-08 04:29 PM   #57 
              - Seriously, you need to read US V. EMERSON and educate yourself  derby378   Jun-12-08 10:56 PM   #58 
  - Kudos to the NRA...  D__S   Jun-04-08 12:57 PM   #2 
  - YAY I can buy assault weapons and 10 handguns a month again...  Indenturedebtor   Jun-04-08 01:13 PM   #4 
     - Yes! Your NRA membership dues go back into training you to *demand* such "freedoms!"  villager   Jun-04-08 01:34 PM   #10 
     - I suggest you not commit those crimes.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-04-08 06:12 PM   #43 
     - self confessed felon nt  michreject   Jun-05-08 10:24 AM   #48 
  - The gun cultists, as ever, have been traduced by the NRA  villager   Jun-04-08 01:12 PM   #3 
  - Exactly. n/t  Indenturedebtor   Jun-04-08 01:13 PM   #5 
  - Or, alternatively...  gaijinlaw   Jun-04-08 01:27 PM   #6 
  - No no no, we're all part of the NRA cult  krispos42   Jun-04-08 01:36 PM   #12 
  - The issue is actually the rule of law, and it parallels what has happened in San Francisco  slackmaster   Jun-04-08 01:27 PM   #7 
  - right. well, the NRA then will use your membership dollars to override *state* laws, too  villager   Jun-04-08 01:35 PM   #11 
     - And if whatever Federal laws you are talking about turn out to be unconstitutional  slackmaster   Jun-04-08 02:05 PM   #18 
     - you're an ideal little NRA-bot, yes?  villager   Jun-04-08 02:07 PM   #20 
     - Actually I am not now nor have I ever been an NRA member  slackmaster   Jun-04-08 02:17 PM   #25 
        - Now now now, slack  krispos42   Jun-04-08 02:24 PM   #30 
        - "bot" is out of line, and I apologize. And yet, you have all their talking points down  villager   Jun-04-08 04:17 PM   #36 
           - If you knew me better you would understand the philosophical underpinnings of my responses  slackmaster   Jun-04-08 04:23 PM   #37 
              - okay, now that we can actually talk: Is it really "rogue" if a city is dealing with out of control  villager   Jun-04-08 04:29 PM   #38 
                 - If state law prohibits a city from making up its own gun laws, then yes it is rogue  slackmaster   Jun-04-08 04:30 PM   #39 
                    - And you will therefore support the state law?  villager   Jun-04-08 04:40 PM   #40 
                       - Yes, of course  slackmaster   Jun-05-08 10:00 AM   #46 
     - I didn't know  tofurkey   Jun-04-08 02:47 PM   #31 
        - There certainly were handguns, and the rifles used by soldiers were available to anyone  slackmaster   Jun-04-08 02:53 PM   #33 
        - "I would like to have a bazooka...."  bean fidhleir   Jun-04-08 06:04 PM   #41 
     - The VPC will use your membership dollars to continue to try and violate constitutional rights.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-04-08 06:14 PM   #44 
  - Or as led by those that are manipulated into thinking they need "assualt weapons" bans  krispos42   Jun-04-08 01:30 PM   #8 
  - I live in a city, and have an assault rifle  NickB79   Jun-04-08 01:37 PM   #13 
     - The problem is that they're designed to kill lots of people fast  Indenturedebtor   Jun-04-08 01:50 PM   #15 
        - As with climate change deniers, "violence deniers" will insist assault rifles are utterly benign!  villager   Jun-04-08 01:54 PM   #16 
        - Yes they'll point to one example of an AR-15 being used to stop a crime  Indenturedebtor   Jun-04-08 02:01 PM   #17 
           - exactly -- like Rushy finding some weather anomaly to deny all climate change stats...  villager   Jun-04-08 02:06 PM   #19 
           - Yet our homicide and violenc crime rates are down  krispos42   Jun-04-08 02:19 PM   #26 
           - So are you saying that an AR-15 can fire 80 rounds a second?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-04-08 06:08 PM   #42 
           - Stabbings outnumber rifle killings  Pavulon   Jun-05-08 07:30 PM   #51 
        - Ooo, look at the straw!  krispos42   Jun-04-08 02:10 PM   #21 
        - So their not better at non-discriminatory violence like drive by shootings and school massacres? n/t  Indenturedebtor   Jun-04-08 02:16 PM   #24 
           - Guess not  krispos42   Jun-04-08 02:23 PM   #29 
        - Yet murders with assault rifles are exceedingly rare  NickB79   Jun-04-08 03:08 PM   #35 
        - "Should we all be able to buy nuclear weapons?"  bean fidhleir   Jun-05-08 05:32 AM   #45 
        - arms vs ordinance  Pavulon   Jun-05-08 07:33 PM   #52 
  - Oh great. Just what Philly needs. More gun violence.  onehandle   Jun-04-08 01:33 PM   #9 
  - Why will there be more gun violence?  krispos42   Jun-04-08 01:37 PM   #14 
     - Red herring, but I'll bite.  onehandle   Jun-04-08 02:10 PM   #22 
        - so because a law that was never in effect was struck down ppl are going to go on rampages  davepc   Jun-04-08 02:21 PM   #27 
        - Historically, here in California, there are only two things that trigger increased gun sales  slackmaster   Jun-04-08 02:21 PM   #28 
  - Hmmm... should I buy a gun or should I fill up the tank?  ckramer   Jun-04-08 02:51 PM   #32 
     - The judge applied the law as it is written and generally understood  slackmaster   Jun-04-08 02:54 PM   #34 
        - Another judge can apply the same law and ban guns  ckramer   Jun-05-08 06:48 PM   #50 
           - A judge who goes against state law deserves to be impeached  slackmaster   Jun-06-08 01:29 PM   #54 

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