ravencalling
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Tue Jun-03-08 07:44 AM
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| 49. Having posted on this group's move to Texas |
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Many moons ago, this just really bothers me. I have to agree that the actions taken were what seemed to be in a desperate even heroic if misguided attempt to find evidence of individual abuse, and apparently these actions did not work out as planned. In addition by not following rule of law strictly in this case, it may be a long time before any real abuse can be discovered and handled - which is sad. But my hopes are that the authorities continue to try.
I think with any cult there is a huge difficulty. What do you do? With a closed group such as this, operating outside of the law and system, how do you get individual proof of abuse? Proof is the key. Consider the fact that the brainwashed young women are not going to admit abuse in protection of their so called husbands and families. Marriage outside of the law is hard to prosecute. Rape can only be proven with children and DNA results in this case, to link underage rape with adults.
I agree that this is wholly a cult of pedophilia, where the victims are indoctrinated from birth to accept the circumstance. Very effective and convenient.
My hope is that there continues to be efforts to monitor and quickly go after evidence when opportunity presents itself. The State of Texas is going to have a embarrassingly hard time justifying itself as the the protector and home of a pedophile group which is now exposed to the world.
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| -BREAKING NEWS: FLDS children heading home today |
maddezmom |
Jun-02-08 09:26 AM |
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Tom Green County Courthouse? |
IanDB1 |
Jun-02-08 09:28 AM |
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Probably not. |
igil |
Jun-02-08 10:38 AM |
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what a mess! The cult has rights. |
Jefferson23 |
Jun-02-08 09:45 AM |
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The cult will reject order as it interfers with male right to screw kids at will |
papau |
Jun-02-08 10:07 AM |
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I agree. |
cornermouse |
Jun-02-08 10:15 AM |
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Well, some of them said they didn't KNOW it was illegal to screw kids. |
IanDB1 |
Jun-02-08 12:26 PM |
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The government doesn't own your children |
hokies4ever |
Jun-02-08 01:01 PM |
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parents don't own them either |
Scout |
Jun-02-08 04:08 PM |
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Even Texas officials have to follow the law |
hokies4ever |
Jun-02-08 04:12 PM |
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Yup. We haven't heard the end of this, and DNA isn't in yet! |
JeanGrey |
Jun-02-08 05:17 PM |
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as much as I disdain organized religions of any kind, I am glad |
antifaschits |
Jun-02-08 11:49 AM |
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Just in time for June Wedding Season too |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jun-02-08 09:46 AM |
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Rape rooms in Iraq-BAD rape rooms in Texas-GOOD |
underpants |
Jun-02-08 09:57 AM |
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Taking kids away from their parents without evidence they are being abused - BAD |
proud2Blib |
Jun-03-08 06:41 AM |
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Thanks for posting that article in Editorial section. |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-08 11:51 AM |
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Yes, dirty old men can resume their pedophilia sex lives |
Blaq Dem |
Jun-02-08 12:08 PM |
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And another hate group with good lawyers wins another round. |
mbperrin |
Jun-02-08 09:49 AM |
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yes it is sad.... the children and women have less rights than the cult leaders |
fascisthunter |
Jun-02-08 09:52 AM |
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Good points |
Frances |
Jun-02-08 10:08 AM |
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Exactly |
jpertello |
Jun-02-08 10:21 AM |
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The government doesn't own your children |
hokies4ever |
Jun-02-08 01:02 PM |
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nobody said the government ever did "own" the Children |
fascisthunter |
Jun-02-08 01:37 PM |
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yes, the FLDS is acknowledged as a hate group |
musette_sf |
Jun-02-08 12:23 PM |
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The children have legal rights. But the whole FLDS thing stinks. |
emad |
Jun-02-08 10:19 AM |
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I feel so sorry for those kids... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jun-02-08 11:07 AM |
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Perhaps they didn't know what crayons are |
WolverineDG |
Jun-02-08 06:31 PM |
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Why don't you go over to the FLDS site where they list the daily |
mbperrin |
Jun-02-08 10:41 PM |
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Actually, I've seen the children's art work first hand |
WolverineDG |
Jun-03-08 06:00 AM |
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And you honestly believe your fist hand knowledge matters. |
proud2Blib |
Jun-03-08 06:31 AM |
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Yeah, quelle surprise that! |
WolverineDG |
Jun-03-08 11:29 AM |
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If you are in a position to see conditions up close, you aren't being |
Lars39 |
Jun-03-08 11:43 AM |
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The kids deserve a choice in life |
redtornado |
Jun-02-08 11:35 AM |
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So you think kids should make the decision to leave abuse? |
LostinVA |
Jun-02-08 04:49 PM |
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Removing them en masse was a terrible mistake. |
David__77 |
Jun-02-08 12:02 PM |
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FLDS is basically a religion built around pedophilia |
Blaq Dem |
Jun-02-08 12:15 PM |
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Whether true or not, the law does not allow summary removal. |
David__77 |
Jun-02-08 12:18 PM |
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Sad. Children can't be protected from rape and incest. |
Echotrail |
Jun-02-08 01:08 PM |
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Lack of compassion |
JFreitas |
Jun-02-08 06:53 PM |
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has the state at least identified the children & their fathers? |
maxsolomon |
Jun-02-08 01:43 PM |
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As far as I know, they haven't ID'd the fathers. |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-08 04:05 PM |
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These children will suffer. And the cycle will continue. |
LanternWaste |
Jun-02-08 02:46 PM |
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Good |
proud2Blib |
Jun-02-08 06:59 PM |
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Even though they're a hate group and monitored as such? |
mbperrin |
Jun-02-08 10:42 PM |
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I belong to a hate group |
proud2Blib |
Jun-02-08 10:56 PM |
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What hate group is that? |
uppityperson |
Jun-03-08 12:27 AM |
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Actually there are several |
proud2Blib |
Jun-03-08 06:45 AM |
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Those don't count. Every group has someone who hates them. |
uppityperson |
Jun-03-08 04:58 PM |
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Exactly which group monitored by the Southern Poverty Law Center |
mbperrin |
Jun-03-08 02:04 AM |
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So it's not a hate group unless the SPLC says so? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-03-08 06:34 AM |
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So you don't know who Morris Dees is, and you don't belong to a hate group. |
mbperrin |
Jun-03-08 09:02 AM |
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Does your "hate group" rape children too? |
Frank Cannon |
Jun-03-08 04:32 AM |
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This doesn't even deserve a response. |
proud2Blib |
Jun-03-08 06:36 AM |
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Having posted on this group's move to Texas |
ravencalling |
Jun-03-08 07:44 AM |
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More complicated than that |
JFreitas |
Jun-03-08 09:15 AM |
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Thanks for pointing out the difference |
shrike |
Jun-03-08 11:41 AM |
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All good points.. |
ravencalling |
Jun-03-08 08:27 PM |
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Yes... |
JFreitas |
Jun-04-08 05:53 AM |
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