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ravencalling Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:44 AM
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49. Having posted on this group's move to Texas
Many moons ago, this just really bothers me. I have to agree that the actions taken were what seemed to be in a desperate even heroic if misguided attempt to find evidence of individual abuse, and apparently these actions did not work out as planned. In addition by not following rule of law strictly in this case, it may be a long time before any real abuse can be discovered and handled - which is sad. But my hopes are that the authorities continue to try.

I think with any cult there is a huge difficulty. What do you do? With a closed group such as this, operating outside of the law and system, how do you get individual proof of abuse? Proof is the key. Consider the fact that the brainwashed young women are not going to admit abuse in protection of their so called husbands and families. Marriage outside of the law is hard to prosecute. Rape can only be proven with children and DNA results in this case, to link underage rape with adults.

I agree that this is wholly a cult of pedophilia, where the victims are indoctrinated from birth to accept the circumstance. Very effective and convenient.

My hope is that there continues to be efforts to monitor and quickly go after evidence when opportunity presents itself. The State of Texas is going to have a embarrassingly hard time justifying itself as the the protector and home of a pedophile group which is now exposed to the world.








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  -BREAKING NEWS: FLDS children heading home today maddezmom  Jun-02-08 09:26 AM   #0 
  - Tom Green County Courthouse?  IanDB1   Jun-02-08 09:28 AM   #1 
  - Probably not.  igil   Jun-02-08 10:38 AM   #12 
  - what a mess! The cult has rights.  Jefferson23   Jun-02-08 09:45 AM   #2 
  - The cult will reject order as it interfers with male right to screw kids at will  papau   Jun-02-08 10:07 AM   #7 
  - I agree.  cornermouse   Jun-02-08 10:15 AM   #9 
  - Well, some of them said they didn't KNOW it was illegal to screw kids.  IanDB1   Jun-02-08 12:26 PM   #22 
  - The government doesn't own your children  hokies4ever   Jun-02-08 01:01 PM   #23 
  - parents don't own them either  Scout   Jun-02-08 04:08 PM   #30 
     - Even Texas officials have to follow the law  hokies4ever   Jun-02-08 04:12 PM   #31 
  - Yup. We haven't heard the end of this, and DNA isn't in yet!  JeanGrey   Jun-02-08 05:17 PM   #33 
  - as much as I disdain organized religions of any kind, I am glad  antifaschits   Jun-02-08 11:49 AM   #15 
  - Just in time for June Wedding Season too  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jun-02-08 09:46 AM   #3 
  - Rape rooms in Iraq-BAD rape rooms in Texas-GOOD  underpants   Jun-02-08 09:57 AM   #6 
  - Taking kids away from their parents without evidence they are being abused - BAD  proud2Blib   Jun-03-08 06:41 AM   #47 
  - Thanks for posting that article in Editorial section.  uppityperson   Jun-02-08 11:51 AM   #16 
  - Yes, dirty old men can resume their pedophilia sex lives  Blaq Dem   Jun-02-08 12:08 PM   #18 
  - And another hate group with good lawyers wins another round.  mbperrin   Jun-02-08 09:49 AM   #4 
  - yes it is sad.... the children and women have less rights than the cult leaders  fascisthunter   Jun-02-08 09:52 AM   #5 
  - Good points  Frances   Jun-02-08 10:08 AM   #8 
  - Exactly  jpertello   Jun-02-08 10:21 AM   #11 
  - The government doesn't own your children  hokies4ever   Jun-02-08 01:02 PM   #24 
     - nobody said the government ever did "own" the Children  fascisthunter   Jun-02-08 01:37 PM   #26 
  - yes, the FLDS is acknowledged as a hate group  musette_sf   Jun-02-08 12:23 PM   #21 
  - The children have legal rights. But the whole FLDS thing stinks.  emad   Jun-02-08 10:19 AM   #10 
  - I feel so sorry for those kids...  Hell Hath No Fury   Jun-02-08 11:07 AM   #13 
  - Perhaps they didn't know what crayons are  WolverineDG   Jun-02-08 06:31 PM   #34 
     - Why don't you go over to the FLDS site where they list the daily  mbperrin   Jun-02-08 10:41 PM   #37 
        - Actually, I've seen the children's art work first hand  WolverineDG   Jun-03-08 06:00 AM   #43 
           - And you honestly believe your fist hand knowledge matters.  proud2Blib   Jun-03-08 06:31 AM   #44 
           - Yeah, quelle surprise that!  WolverineDG   Jun-03-08 11:29 AM   #52 
           - If you are in a position to see conditions up close, you aren't being  Lars39   Jun-03-08 11:43 AM   #54 
  - The kids deserve a choice in life  redtornado   Jun-02-08 11:35 AM   #14 
  - So you think kids should make the decision to leave abuse?  LostinVA   Jun-02-08 04:49 PM   #32 
  - Removing them en masse was a terrible mistake.  David__77   Jun-02-08 12:02 PM   #17 
  - FLDS is basically a religion built around pedophilia  Blaq Dem   Jun-02-08 12:15 PM   #19 
     - Whether true or not, the law does not allow summary removal.  David__77   Jun-02-08 12:18 PM   #20 
  - Sad. Children can't be protected from rape and incest.  Echotrail   Jun-02-08 01:08 PM   #25 
  - Lack of compassion  JFreitas   Jun-02-08 06:53 PM   #35 
  - has the state at least identified the children & their fathers?  maxsolomon   Jun-02-08 01:43 PM   #27 
  - As far as I know, they haven't ID'd the fathers.  uppityperson   Jun-02-08 04:05 PM   #29 
  - These children will suffer. And the cycle will continue.  LanternWaste   Jun-02-08 02:46 PM   #28 
  - Good  proud2Blib   Jun-02-08 06:59 PM   #36 
  - Even though they're a hate group and monitored as such?  mbperrin   Jun-02-08 10:42 PM   #38 
     - I belong to a hate group  proud2Blib   Jun-02-08 10:56 PM   #39 
        - What hate group is that?  uppityperson   Jun-03-08 12:27 AM   #40 
        - Actually there are several  proud2Blib   Jun-03-08 06:45 AM   #48 
           - Those don't count. Every group has someone who hates them.  uppityperson   Jun-03-08 04:58 PM   #55 
        - Exactly which group monitored by the Southern Poverty Law Center  mbperrin   Jun-03-08 02:04 AM   #41 
        - So it's not a hate group unless the SPLC says so?  proud2Blib   Jun-03-08 06:34 AM   #45 
           - So you don't know who Morris Dees is, and you don't belong to a hate group.  mbperrin   Jun-03-08 09:02 AM   #50 
        - Does your "hate group" rape children too?  Frank Cannon   Jun-03-08 04:32 AM   #42 
           - This doesn't even deserve a response.  proud2Blib   Jun-03-08 06:36 AM   #46 
  - Having posted on this group's move to Texas  ravencalling   Jun-03-08 07:44 AM   #49 
     - More complicated than that  JFreitas   Jun-03-08 09:15 AM   #51 
        - Thanks for pointing out the difference  shrike   Jun-03-08 11:41 AM   #53 
        - All good points..  ravencalling   Jun-03-08 08:27 PM   #56 
           - Yes...  JFreitas   Jun-04-08 05:53 AM   #57 
 

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