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Caradoc Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:57 AM
Response to Reply #45
47. Sorry, but...
...arguing that Colombia has 'improved' based upon select statistics is entirely specious, like arguing that because we had more snow this year there's no such thing as global warming. Face it; as a country, Colombia is barely functional. The government survives through cocaine corruption, the fact FARC is even more incompetent than the government, and the US props it up (even more than the old Soviet Union propped up Cuba: it's sad when the only friend you've got in the hemisphere has to be bought).
Chavez has done far more when it comes to social justice than Uribe.

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  -Colombia's Uribe defends his record on trade union murders bemildred  Apr-26-08 05:07 PM   #0 
  - His what, record number?  BRLIB   Apr-26-08 05:33 PM   #1 
  - Yep, he's been out front on trade union murders from the beginning. nt  bemildred   Apr-26-08 05:37 PM   #2 
     - Has His Record On Trade Union Member Murders Made the Guiness Book Yet?  Better Believe It   Apr-26-08 10:12 PM   #28 
  - Killer Koke won't mind  ogsbee   Apr-26-08 05:37 PM   #3 
  - well he's caught in a corner, no where to turn  bluesmail   Apr-26-08 05:47 PM   #4 
  - So are you disputing that the situation in Colombia has improved?  Zorro   Apr-26-08 05:56 PM   #5 
  - Workers' Rights: a Good Reason to Oppose Colombia Trade Deal  struggle4progress   Apr-26-08 06:19 PM   #7 
  - Jeez! Thank god for cell phones: makes stalking union workers that much easier!  Judi Lynn   Apr-26-08 07:05 PM   #11 
  - So you acknowledge and condemn FARC terrorism?  Zorro   Apr-26-08 08:26 PM   #18 
  - What point would there be responding to you? You change the subject, do not read links provided,  struggle4progress   Apr-27-08 02:52 PM   #49 
     - Whine whine whine  Zorro   Apr-27-08 08:24 PM   #50 
        - Has situation improved? Another trade unionist has just disappeared:  struggle4progress   Apr-27-08 08:59 PM   #51 
        - Don't see many facts there  Zorro   Apr-27-08 10:42 PM   #58 
           - Disappearance is common in Colombia and it is a crime against humanity  struggle4progress   Apr-28-08 12:38 AM   #66 
        - Has situation improved? Trade unionists remain in exile as a result of death threats:  struggle4progress   Apr-27-08 09:02 PM   #52 
        - Yes, threats indeed  Zorro   Apr-27-08 10:43 PM   #59 
           - Whatever the rhetoric, the murderers operate with impunity:  struggle4progress   Apr-28-08 12:26 AM   #65 
        - Has situation improved? National statistics office director resigned, after pressure  struggle4progress   Apr-27-08 09:05 PM   #53 
        - 4 year old news item  Zorro   Apr-27-08 10:39 PM   #56 
           - "estamos presenciando el destape de la infiltracin de los grupos paramilitares en la poltica"  struggle4progress   Apr-27-08 11:44 PM   #61 
        - Has situation improved? Human rights groups note rise in extrajudicial executions:  struggle4progress   Apr-27-08 09:10 PM   #54 
        - Claims and counterclaims  Zorro   Apr-27-08 10:45 PM   #60 
           - Don't like humanitarian organizations, do you? They getting death threats, too:  struggle4progress   Apr-28-08 12:13 AM   #63 
              - Classic, isn't it? So they're going after Franciscans, too.  Judi Lynn   Apr-28-08 02:06 AM   #67 
        - Has situation improved? Colombia warns witness assassins will travel to Canada to kill him  struggle4progress   Apr-27-08 09:14 PM   #55 
           - So the Colombian government gives a warning  Zorro   Apr-27-08 10:40 PM   #57 
              - Uribe's cousin Mario Uribe finally arrested --and death threats against Peralta follow at once  struggle4progress   Apr-27-08 11:51 PM   #62 
  - Nothing but the chirping of crickets to the question  Zorro   Apr-26-08 10:13 PM   #29 
  - So are you disputing that the situation in Colombia has improved?  Zorro   Apr-26-08 07:08 PM   #12 
  - Colombian witness appeals to RCMP  struggle4progress   Apr-26-08 08:04 PM   #13 
  - Colombian president says he's been mentioned in paramilitary investigation  struggle4progress   Apr-26-08 08:16 PM   #14 
  - So are you disputing that the situation in Colombia has improved?  Zorro   Apr-26-08 08:23 PM   #16 
     - it's the same argument gwb use to justified the permanent occupation of Iraq  AlphaCentauri   Apr-26-08 09:07 PM   #22 
        - It's not an argument it's a question  Zorro   Apr-26-08 09:12 PM   #23 
           - it's a question to justify your argument and gwb's argument  AlphaCentauri   Apr-26-08 09:19 PM   #25 
              - My position is that the situation has improved significantly  Zorro   Apr-26-08 09:36 PM   #26 
                 - it's not about less or more killings it's about ending the narco politic that cos those killings  AlphaCentauri   Apr-26-08 10:15 PM   #30 
                 - No one's declaring victory  Zorro   Apr-26-08 11:27 PM   #37 
                 - Sounds to me you'll believe anything  Djinn   Apr-26-08 10:31 PM   #32 
                 - So are you disputing that the situation in Colombia has improved?  Zorro   Apr-26-08 11:21 PM   #35 
                    - Crisis en la entidad: Renunci director del Dane  struggle4progress   Apr-27-08 01:42 AM   #42 
                       - Workers' Rights: a Good Reason to Oppose Colombia Trade Deal  Judi Lynn   Apr-27-08 04:48 AM   #46 
                 - Spin  Djinn   Apr-26-08 10:45 PM   #34 
  - Lemme see: extrajudicial executions up, labor leaders still hiding after death threats,  struggle4progress   Apr-26-08 08:26 PM   #17 
     - Jairo Castillo testified last year that "The president's cousin asked them to kill the farm owner"  Judi Lynn   Apr-26-08 08:34 PM   #19 
     - It's a simple yes or no question  Zorro   Apr-26-08 08:42 PM   #20 
        - Colombia: Trade union leader disappears  struggle4progress   Apr-26-08 10:27 PM   #31 
        - Guillermo's disappearance this week apparently doesn't interest you much  struggle4progress   Apr-27-08 12:56 AM   #41 
  - Great interview link at the alternet site, where I read your article above:  Judi Lynn   Apr-26-08 08:18 PM   #15 
  - You can read this directly from the original link, I'll bet, but this is the English translation,  Judi Lynn   Apr-28-08 12:20 AM   #64 
  - Colombian gold miners under threat  struggle4progress   Apr-26-08 06:25 PM   #8 
  - Extrajudicial Executions Rise in Colombia, Say Human Rights Groups (Oct 2007)  struggle4progress   Apr-26-08 06:49 PM   #9 
     - but but  Djinn   Apr-26-08 10:35 PM   #33 
  - They only have to kill him once, though.  billyoc   Apr-26-08 06:06 PM   #6 
  - Not only has info. been blocked from us on Colombian union workers in general, we've heard NOTHING  Judi Lynn   Apr-26-08 06:57 PM   #10 
  - Impunity Rate Abysmal for Colombian Trade Union Murders;Only Three Convictions in First Half of 2007  Judi Lynn   Apr-26-08 09:05 PM   #21 
  - Trade Union Rights in Colombia and the Canada Colombia Trade Deal Under Negotiation  Judi Lynn   Apr-26-08 09:18 PM   #24 
  - Colombian President Uribe Confirms U.S. Unions' Fears  Judi Lynn   Apr-26-08 10:06 PM   #27 
  - Yup, they've hired trolls to help them subvert discussion boards.  KaptBunnyPants   Apr-26-08 11:26 PM   #36 
  - It's a discussion board  Zorro   Apr-26-08 11:35 PM   #39 
  - Did I hurt your feeling ignored?  KaptBunnyPants   Apr-26-08 11:46 PM   #40 
  - Assassin. n/t  sfexpat2000   Apr-26-08 11:29 PM   #38 
  - Colombias President Tacitly Supports Union Murders  Judi Lynn   Apr-27-08 02:46 AM   #43 
  - Union organizing can be deadly in Colombia  Judi Lynn   Apr-27-08 02:56 AM   #44 
  - "Freetrade" With Colombia: Double Speak, Deadly Silence and Deception  Judi Lynn   Apr-27-08 04:19 AM   #45 
  - Sorry, but...  Caradoc   Apr-27-08 06:57 AM   #47 
  - Teamsters Praise NCSL for Rejecting Colombia Trade Deal  Judi Lynn   Apr-27-08 12:52 PM   #48 
 

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