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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:11 PM
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29. She's -not- refusing to "die for a lie"
I am -not- smearing her, nor is she refusing to "die for a lie".

She has said she's not averse to going to a dangerous place.

She has no compunction about being a crew member of a ship that fires missiles to kill people.

She just doesn't want to do what she is told because it is a "waste of her skills". Poor, poor primadona.

I would consider having a small bit of admiration if she was refusing orders on moral grounds, but she's not. Anyway, the time to do that was when Bush invaded Iraq, not when it becomes inconvenient/dangerous. I am a bit less sympathetic to anyone that is willing to be in the service, get training, collect money, then refuse orders when they might actually have to go into harm's way. Not entirely unsympathetic, just a bit jaundiced.
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  -Naval officer chooses discharge rather than go to Iraq Newsjock  Apr-19-08 12:36 AM   #0 
  - Wow, that's one brave lady with principles. Brava. And 'support the troops'.  babylonsister   Apr-19-08 12:41 AM   #1 
  - mmm... i wouldn't necessarily agree  BigDaddy44   Apr-21-08 01:52 PM   #46 
     - I agree with her....  AnneD   Apr-21-08 03:53 PM   #50 
  - they will be more the rebellion gets bigger and bigger  lovuian   Apr-19-08 12:45 AM   #2 
  - She is a true heroine...  CaliforniaPeggy   Apr-19-08 12:46 AM   #3 
  - What in the world makes her a hero?  JeanGrey   Apr-20-08 10:04 AM   #40 
     - She is a hero, because the idiots were going to assign her...  Stuart G   Apr-20-08 12:47 PM   #42 
        - She does not get to decide what is "counter productive".  JeanGrey   Apr-20-08 11:34 PM   #43 
        - You don't understand an officer's career path  hack89   Apr-21-08 02:24 PM   #48 
  - I'm glad she opted for this route. Others have taken less productive actions. n/t  krkaufman   Apr-19-08 02:18 AM   #4 
  - I call BS  KeineAhnung   Apr-19-08 02:46 AM   #5 
     - Ok. But I'll remain grateful that she didn't opt for a bullet in the brain pan ...  krkaufman   Apr-19-08 03:00 AM   #6 
     - Armed conflict doesn't mean Madd conflict  bonito   Apr-19-08 03:49 AM   #7 
     - I don't weigh into arguments like this much  Tab   Apr-19-08 04:57 AM   #8 
     - "Absolutely." - Commander AWOL  SpiralHawk   Apr-19-08 05:35 AM   #9 
     - I second that  RedstDem   Apr-19-08 06:14 AM   #10 
     - ditto that  madmom   Apr-19-08 08:22 AM   #15 
     - What Tripe  atreides1   Apr-19-08 10:54 AM   #25 
     - Achtung, mein herr: if only all those of your reichous conviction were willing to serve in Iraq,  indepat   Apr-19-08 06:02 PM   #33 
     - I hate this war but I totally agree. Killing is ok as long as her  JeanGrey   Apr-20-08 10:03 AM   #38 
  - How about she pays back ....  BOHICA06   Apr-19-08 06:57 AM   #11 
  - You beat me to it...  Syntheto   Apr-19-08 07:11 AM   #12 
  - Bravo. Me too. I want mine back as well.  JeanGrey   Apr-20-08 10:03 AM   #39 
  - More courage than a lot of her comrades  gratuitous   Apr-19-08 07:25 AM   #13 
  - She would have no problem shooting cruise missiles from a ship  hack89   Apr-19-08 07:50 AM   #14 
     - Let me see if I can make it clearer....  WyldRogue   Apr-19-08 08:30 AM   #16 
        - Did you read what her job was to be?  hack89   Apr-19-08 09:38 AM   #19 
        - Well then...  WyldRogue   Apr-19-08 09:53 AM   #22 
        - She's -not- refusing to "die for a lie"  Shipwack   Apr-19-08 12:11 PM   #29 
        - Whoa wait a minute here What you all forget is that  lovuian   Apr-19-08 11:01 AM   #26 
        - No - the military is not at the point of rebellion  hack89   Apr-19-08 03:24 PM   #31 
        - Commerce Officer?  retired af major   Apr-19-08 02:01 PM   #30 
        - Not calloused, just experienced.  Shipwack   Apr-19-08 09:52 AM   #21 
        - Nonsense. SHE is a solider. They ALL are. There is no  JeanGrey   Apr-20-08 10:07 AM   #41 
        - My Dad was career wingnut...  AnneD   Apr-21-08 04:25 PM   #52 
  - Our Military since the Korean War, has primarily served the interest of the Rich  trthnd4jstc   Apr-19-08 08:59 AM   #17 
  - Our military is used for political coups which take place to ensure the  higher class   Apr-19-08 09:41 AM   #20 
  - Sorry, my admiration is muted here...  Shipwack   Apr-19-08 09:16 AM   #18 
  - Wow...  KeineAhnung   Apr-19-08 10:16 AM   #23 
     - We are more alike than different, I bet...  Shipwack   Apr-19-08 11:32 AM   #27 
  - A friend's son...  Bigmack   Apr-19-08 10:37 AM   #24 
  - Well, it's -not- the same service...  Shipwack   Apr-19-08 11:58 AM   #28 
  - They are putting sailors in the infantry???  Azazel   Apr-19-08 04:03 PM   #32 
  - No, probably having her do a Marine Job, that frees that Marine for the Infantry  happyslug   Apr-20-08 01:24 AM   #34 
  - Did you bother to even read the link?  hack89   Apr-20-08 07:10 AM   #35 
  - They have programs like...  AnneD   Apr-21-08 03:58 PM   #51 
  - K and R...and more..  Stuart G   Apr-20-08 08:52 AM   #36 
  - This quote is taken from the link.,,,.please read it...thanks..  Stuart G   Apr-20-08 08:59 AM   #37 
  - Can you explain?  KeineAhnung   Apr-20-08 11:55 PM   #44 
  - Blue to Green. nt  Javaman   Apr-21-08 11:18 AM   #45 
  - German and Soviet militaries did the same thing in WW2  LanternWaste   Apr-21-08 02:01 PM   #47 
  - My brother is a Naval Commander - retired  Marrah_G   Apr-21-08 03:24 PM   #49 

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