| 21. Why Shouldn't Carter Meet With Hamas |
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You certainly can't get peace if nobody is talking to each other.
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| -Carter Denied Security During Israel Visit |
Sentinel Chicken |
Apr-14-08 09:57 AM |
#0 |
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And our State Department is okay with that? |
OregonBlue |
Apr-14-08 09:59 AM |
#1 |
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the Justice Dept is partisan as they come--why wouldn't Condi's Dept be the same or worse |
Supersedeas |
Apr-14-08 10:04 AM |
#4 |
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If Carter was attacked or god forbid killed in Israel, it wouldn't bode well for |
OregonBlue |
Apr-14-08 10:45 AM |
#13 |
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Didn't they also insist that he not go? |
marshall |
Apr-14-08 01:08 PM |
#47 |
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i think |
druidity33 |
Apr-14-08 05:12 PM |
#90 |
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Does anything, ever, bode well for this administration |
lark |
Apr-14-08 03:55 PM |
#78 |
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Probably not, but the US secret service and other US security are there to try and protect him |
still_one |
Apr-14-08 11:29 AM |
#27 |
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They probably arranged it! |
xxqqqzme |
Apr-14-08 03:12 PM |
#68 |
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it's probably at the request of our state dept |
barbtries |
Apr-14-08 06:53 PM |
#119 |
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How soon we forget our friends when they don't do as we say. nt |
bemildred |
Apr-14-08 10:00 AM |
#2 |
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And vice-versa. |
asjr |
Apr-14-08 10:03 AM |
#3 |
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Yes! Damn him for trying to bring peace to Israel! |
bemildred |
Apr-14-08 10:17 AM |
#9 |
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Please Bemildred. Carter wrote an honest/some would say even too mild criticism of Israel. |
shance |
Apr-14-08 06:43 PM |
#112 |
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Rabin was a man of peace too. |
no_hypocrisy |
Apr-14-08 10:05 AM |
#5 |
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If anything is going to happen to Carter on this trip |
ooglymoogly |
Apr-14-08 07:26 PM |
#123 |
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Retaliation for Carter's recent book, "Peace not Apartheid". |
Sinistrous |
Apr-14-08 10:09 AM |
#6 |
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Exactly. Another reason not to support the current leaders of Israel. |
higher class |
Apr-14-08 11:28 AM |
#26 |
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How about the kingdom of greed ? They suck up billions of tax |
anitar1 |
Apr-14-08 05:13 PM |
#91 |
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Former President Carter |
Dan |
Apr-14-08 11:30 PM |
#149 |
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This was a best seller in Israel, and well received. |
antifaschits |
Apr-14-08 04:31 PM |
#84 |
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I end so many of my messages with a question - where are the peacemakers |
higher class |
Apr-14-08 06:46 PM |
#114 |
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Go anyway, Jimmy. |
rateyes |
Apr-14-08 10:10 AM |
#7 |
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no one is going to touch carter |
madrchsod |
Apr-14-08 10:13 AM |
#8 |
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Should he be "Lord Moyne-ed" or "Bernadotte-ed" there will be |
Malikshah |
Apr-14-08 10:27 AM |
#10 |
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No, the only hell will be paid by us, same as when that spook ship was attacked |
bean fidhleir |
Apr-14-08 11:07 AM |
#20 |
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Exactly. |
Sentinel Chicken |
Apr-14-08 11:55 AM |
#31 |
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Carter Wants Peace |
Irishonly |
Apr-14-08 10:32 AM |
#11 |
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Yeah but why would anyone want to see BOTH sides of the story? |
Counciltucky |
Apr-14-08 05:37 PM |
#96 |
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This will further lower the rest of the world's opinion of Israel. |
Divernan |
Apr-14-08 10:34 AM |
#12 |
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And the rest of the world's opinion of the United States... |
Baby Snooks |
Apr-14-08 12:01 PM |
#33 |
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What does the US have to do with it? Israel is the one denying security. |
shance |
Apr-14-08 04:48 PM |
#86 |
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We have "taken sides" |
Baby Snooks |
Apr-14-08 06:10 PM |
#101 |
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Bastards. |
TacticalPeek |
Apr-14-08 10:48 AM |
#14 |
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And we give how much foreign aid to Israel? |
Benhurst |
Apr-14-08 10:52 AM |
#15 |
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Al Gore could offer to "go with" Jimmy-a crowd- that would be a cool statement! |
biglake |
Apr-14-08 10:53 AM |
#16 |
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It is WAY PAST THE TIME when we should just cut Israel loose |
acmavm |
Apr-14-08 10:53 AM |
#17 |
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Gee, what no outrage over such an anti-Semitic suggestion? |
mnhtnbb |
Apr-14-08 11:21 AM |
#24 |
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I'm not an anti-Semite. I AM an anti-ZIONIST |
acmavm |
Apr-14-08 01:24 PM |
#49 |
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One in the same. |
sellitman |
Apr-14-08 06:53 PM |
#117 |
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I agree with you completely |
bow-tie |
Apr-14-08 02:18 PM |
#56 |
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And I agree with you. Israel is |
Maineman |
Apr-14-08 03:53 PM |
#77 |
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AIPAC owns us |
lark |
Apr-14-08 04:00 PM |
#79 |
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Israel and AIPAC represent too good of a Money Laundering scheme |
mrone2 |
Apr-14-08 05:01 PM |
#89 |
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This post is wrong on several grounds... |
LeftishBrit |
Apr-14-08 05:43 PM |
#98 |
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Need 1 more R for the greatest page, please |
Divernan |
Apr-14-08 10:58 AM |
#18 |
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You don't need it any more but I'm giving it anyway. This is a stupid move by Israel. |
Voice for Peace |
Apr-14-08 11:52 AM |
#29 |
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Israel is a political football. |
smiley_glad_hands |
Apr-14-08 11:04 AM |
#19 |
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Why Shouldn't Carter Meet With Hamas |
Timothy Gatto |
Apr-14-08 11:09 AM |
#21 |
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But is peace the objective...it doesn't look like it. |
OKthatsIT |
Apr-15-08 07:31 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Apr-14-08 11:19 AM |
#22 |
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I say we should short them the next time the surrounding Arab nations want to attack |
sasquatch |
Apr-14-08 11:19 AM |
#23 |
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It isn't right, but keep in mind OUR Secret Service and security are protecting Carter |
still_one |
Apr-14-08 11:26 AM |
#25 |
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Israel should not be allowed to get away with this, many of their own people want to negotiate with |
ToughLuck |
Apr-14-08 11:34 AM |
#28 |
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Carter's the best x-president EVER |
lark |
Apr-14-08 04:04 PM |
#80 |
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Well, it's not like he has much competition... |
DutchLiberal |
Apr-14-08 06:31 PM |
#105 |
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NOW THAT'S FUNNY!!!! |
themartyred |
Apr-15-08 01:40 AM |
#152 |
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This is abominable! |
whereismyparty |
Apr-14-08 11:54 AM |
#30 |
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Perfect response. Couldn't agree more. |
faygokid |
Apr-14-08 01:55 PM |
#53 |
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Hamas in action |
garthranzz |
Apr-14-08 12:00 PM |
#32 |
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Of course we don't dress our kids up in uniforms and march them |
Sentinel Chicken |
Apr-14-08 12:35 PM |
#38 |
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Ah, yes, our KINDERGARTEN GRADUATIONS CELEBRATE GENOCIDE |
garthranzz |
Apr-14-08 12:52 PM |
#43 |
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Yes why can't they be civilized and do their killing from ... |
Sentinel Chicken |
Apr-14-08 01:00 PM |
#44 |
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Here we go round the mulberry bush |
garthranzz |
Apr-14-08 01:28 PM |
#50 |
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depends on where ya go |
iamthebandfanman |
Apr-14-08 01:31 PM |
#51 |
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Who, exactly, celebrates genocide? |
ExPatLeftist |
Apr-14-08 02:32 PM |
#58 |
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bigotry in action |
fascisthunter |
Apr-14-08 03:04 PM |
#67 |
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yeah, we got our genocide out of the way early |
darue |
Apr-14-08 09:52 PM |
#142 |
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deplorable. how can there ever |
sweets |
Apr-14-08 03:38 PM |
#70 |
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Check 'Jesus Camp' in your own country first. |
DutchLiberal |
Apr-14-08 06:39 PM |
#108 |
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Middle America in action: indoctrinating the young: |
DutchLiberal |
Apr-14-08 06:34 PM |
#106 |
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hamas in action |
garthranzz |
Apr-14-08 12:01 PM |
#34 |
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Some Israelis are a burden to mid east peace too. |
Botany |
Apr-14-08 12:03 PM |
#35 |
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Showing their true face I see |
4dsc |
Apr-14-08 12:30 PM |
#36 |
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First of all U.S. secret service is there to protect Carter, and I am not condoning Israel |
still_one |
Apr-14-08 03:18 PM |
#69 |
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Great post! |
LeftishBrit |
Apr-14-08 05:45 PM |
#99 |
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How childish can you get? nt |
Zorra |
Apr-14-08 12:35 PM |
#37 |
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Link to reuters/yahoo news article: |
mogster |
Apr-14-08 12:38 PM |
#39 |
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Jimmy Carter has more real courage in his little finger |
undeterred |
Apr-14-08 12:41 PM |
#40 |
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Nonsense. Why didn't he show that courage when he was in power? |
DutchLiberal |
Apr-14-08 06:40 PM |
#109 |
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Huh? He did a lot of work for Middle East peace then! |
LeftishBrit |
Apr-14-08 07:04 PM |
#121 |
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Yes, but what did he do for the Palestinians when he was in office? |
DutchLiberal |
Apr-15-08 07:34 AM |
#163 |
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Based on your posts on this thread |
nathan hale |
Apr-15-08 05:09 AM |
#157 |
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Thank you. That was the most useless and nonsubstantial reply I've ever gotten. |
DutchLiberal |
Apr-15-08 07:36 AM |
#164 |
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I would suggest you take the opportunity to actually read Palestine:Peace not Aparteid... |
mikelewis |
Apr-15-08 07:22 AM |
#160 |
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'Republican talking points'? Has the smear campaign against critics started already? |
DutchLiberal |
Apr-15-08 07:40 AM |
#165 |
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Yes, your statements show you have no idea what you are talking about... |
mikelewis |
Apr-15-08 08:41 AM |
#166 |
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Nonsense. I've studied the Carter-period extensively. My findings just don't match your point o'view |
DutchLiberal |
Apr-15-08 12:42 PM |
#169 |
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Dammit, just my luck, I had to go and pick a fight with a Carter era expert.. |
mikelewis |
Apr-15-08 09:40 PM |
#170 |
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More slander, again no facts, again no substantial challenges to my posts... |
DutchLiberal |
Apr-16-08 12:37 PM |
#171 |
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Great lets keep up the |
humbled_opinion |
Apr-14-08 12:49 PM |
#41 |
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If they want McCain, they can have McCain. |
bemildred |
Apr-14-08 12:51 PM |
#42 |
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Yeah thats the ticket let the Repukes have the WH |
humbled_opinion |
Apr-14-08 06:04 PM |
#100 |
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No, I didn't say that. |
bemildred |
Apr-14-08 06:47 PM |
#115 |
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Oh I see you obviously haven't been ... |
humbled_opinion |
Apr-14-08 09:25 PM |
#134 |
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Or, you could be wrong about that. nt |
bemildred |
Apr-14-08 10:13 PM |
#144 |
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Whats worse... |
humbled_opinion |
Apr-15-08 11:06 AM |
#167 |
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I expect we will find out, eh? nt |
bemildred |
Apr-15-08 11:07 AM |
#168 |
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I would think that the Demo Jewish voters know the difference between, |
bagrman |
Apr-14-08 02:44 PM |
#59 |
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My aunt married a peace loving Israeli |
lark |
Apr-14-08 04:10 PM |
#81 |
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You don't understand...even now, "Zionist" isn't a dirty word |
Raksha |
Apr-14-08 09:49 PM |
#141 |
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Agreed |
LeftishBrit |
Apr-15-08 05:02 AM |
#156 |
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Ummm...here's one Jewish Democrat who's voting for Obama! |
Raksha |
Apr-14-08 09:20 PM |
#131 |
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Time to cut off Federal funding for Israel |
demnan |
Apr-14-08 01:04 PM |
#45 |
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Does anyone know what that funding actually goes to specifically fund anyway? |
shance |
Apr-14-08 04:57 PM |
#88 |
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Mainly weapons. Israel is a goldmine for for our weapons manufacturers. |
scarletwoman |
Apr-14-08 05:23 PM |
#92 |
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Here's a CRS Report from 2005 |
Malikshah |
Apr-14-08 10:24 PM |
#145 |
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No security to protect him from who, radicals in Hamas? I'd think they would welcome him.... |
Postman |
Apr-14-08 01:07 PM |
#46 |
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A new low for the Israeli political class |
entanglement |
Apr-14-08 01:11 PM |
#48 |
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"Political Class" |
bow-tie |
Apr-14-08 02:22 PM |
#57 |
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Shin Bet does a selective job of VIP protection, anyway, Re: Yitzhak Rabin, 04NOV95 |
leveymg |
Apr-14-08 01:55 PM |
#52 |
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Well then, we should cut off their GENEROUS allowance |
mitchum |
Apr-14-08 01:57 PM |
#54 |
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Apr-14-08 02:17 PM |
#55 |
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We don't prop them up they are one of the richest countries in the world. |
bagrman |
Apr-14-08 02:46 PM |
#61 |
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REALLY? Then we can stop the billions in annual aid we send to them? |
NoodleyAppendage |
Apr-14-08 02:59 PM |
#66 |
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See what happens when your well connected. The US citizens need and AIPAC |
bagrman |
Apr-14-08 06:53 PM |
#118 |
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$10 million A DAY |
ExPatLeftist |
Apr-14-08 03:43 PM |
#72 |
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ExPat, great article, great graph, great quotes. The skewed coverage blows |
Deny and Shred |
Apr-14-08 05:24 PM |
#94 |
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Thanks! |
ExPatLeftist |
Apr-14-08 09:16 PM |
#130 |
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Sometimes, bravery is needed in trying to achieve peace. |
mmonk |
Apr-14-08 02:44 PM |
#60 |
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These neo-con fascist Israelis/our Israelis are probably still bitter over the |
defendandprotect |
Apr-14-08 02:49 PM |
#62 |
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As someone once said . . . "Peace is harder than war" . .. !!!! |
defendandprotect |
Apr-14-08 02:50 PM |
#63 |
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How about we deny the Israeli/US WELFARE STATE the billons we send in aid? |
NoodleyAppendage |
Apr-14-08 02:53 PM |
#64 |
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Here's a good one: |
G Gordon Libby |
Apr-14-08 02:55 PM |
#65 |
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Apr-14-08 03:38 PM |
#71 |
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Unfortunately there have been many similarities for decades. n/t |
ExPatLeftist |
Apr-14-08 03:47 PM |
#74 |
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The only country that equals America in arrogance |
Neo |
Apr-14-08 03:47 PM |
#73 |
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They're a bunch of vindictive bastards |
connecticut yankee |
Apr-14-08 03:47 PM |
#75 |
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Why does the US continue to veto UN resolutions |
ExPatLeftist |
Apr-14-08 03:52 PM |
#76 |
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Name removed |
Apr-14-08 04:16 PM |
#82 |
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Do you mean Isael's illegal nuclear program? "Well, never mind that, here's some pictures of Iran... |
guyanakoolaid |
Apr-14-08 04:29 PM |
#83 |
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FUCKING UNGRATEFUL BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!! |
sandrakae |
Apr-14-08 04:42 PM |
#85 |
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Egads, are they run by a bunch of teenagers? |
treestar |
Apr-14-08 04:56 PM |
#87 |
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With the amount of protection given to the Israelis |
jwlashta |
Apr-14-08 05:24 PM |
#93 |
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Wow. Sounds like something America would do. |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-14-08 05:26 PM |
#95 |
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That's a pity; but don't former presidents get lots of security staff wherever they go anyway? |
LeftishBrit |
Apr-14-08 05:38 PM |
#97 |
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How many goddamn $$BILLIONS$$ have we given these assholes??? |
tabasco |
Apr-14-08 06:18 PM |
#102 |
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I wish Carter had shown the same balls when he was in power... |
DutchLiberal |
Apr-14-08 06:22 PM |
#103 |
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I think he wanted to stay alive. |
shance |
Apr-14-08 06:40 PM |
#110 |
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But what's the sense in having a president if he's not going to act according to his beliefs? |
DutchLiberal |
Apr-14-08 06:44 PM |
#113 |
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What the hell are you talking about? |
Art_from_Ark |
Apr-14-08 07:43 PM |
#124 |
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As president, did Carter ever spoke about "Apartheid" in the Israeli-occupied areas? |
DutchLiberal |
Apr-15-08 07:33 AM |
#162 |
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We need to stop funding that regime! |
New Dawn |
Apr-14-08 06:25 PM |
#104 |
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I completely agree. |
MercutioATC |
Apr-14-08 06:48 PM |
#116 |
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Just shows how unbiased and committed to peace Israel is... nt |
heliarc |
Apr-14-08 06:37 PM |
#107 |
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Obviously, the Israeli govt. wants Carter dead. |
muntrv |
Apr-14-08 06:42 PM |
#111 |
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Deleted message |
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Apr-14-08 06:57 PM |
#120 |
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"THE Palestinian stance" |
ExPatLeftist |
Apr-14-08 09:34 PM |
#136 |
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I agree that there is no such thing as THE Palestinian stance... |
LeftishBrit |
Apr-15-08 05:00 AM |
#155 |
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I agree |
ExPatLeftist |
Apr-15-08 06:48 AM |
#159 |
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multiple post n/t |
ExPatLeftist |
Apr-14-08 09:34 PM |
#137 |
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...and a compter freakout n/t |
ExPatLeftist |
Apr-14-08 09:34 PM |
#138 |
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Yes, truly astonishing... |
clixtox |
Apr-15-08 02:23 AM |
#153 |
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Bratty little shitbags. Cut off their fucking allowance. |
Kurovski |
Apr-14-08 07:18 PM |
#122 |
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This one is simple, they don't want him visiting with Hamas leaders...... |
ShaneGR |
Apr-14-08 08:03 PM |
#125 |
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In my view Israel doesn't want Peace |
number6 |
Apr-14-08 08:24 PM |
#126 |
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If anything happens to him, there will be hell to pay. |
Peggy Day |
Apr-14-08 08:25 PM |
#127 |
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Shitty. Little. Country. eom |
Poll_Blind |
Apr-14-08 08:33 PM |
#128 |
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This makes me cry. |
Hotler |
Apr-14-08 08:55 PM |
#129 |
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* is not only the worst president ever, he is a despicable human being |
TOJ |
Apr-14-08 09:21 PM |
#132 |
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this terrible nexus.... |
unkachuck |
Apr-14-08 09:22 PM |
#133 |
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Is Israel begging to lose the Billions we give them? |
pjt7 |
Apr-14-08 09:32 PM |
#135 |
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Are you kidding, the Bushies will probably INCREASE aid for this. |
tom_paine |
Apr-14-08 11:30 PM |
#148 |
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And just how much is a dead president worth |
DiktatrW |
Apr-14-08 09:44 PM |
#139 |
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Not to give peace a chance |
bonito |
Apr-14-08 09:48 PM |
#140 |
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No more aid to Israel! |
Wizard777 |
Apr-14-08 09:59 PM |
#143 |
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= no more aid to you and I as well |
bonito |
Apr-14-08 10:27 PM |
#146 |
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As a Jew, this makes me sick. Israel is now also run by Evil Bushies. |
tom_paine |
Apr-14-08 11:25 PM |
#147 |
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What a TRULY tough group, eh? eom |
Mind_your_head |
Apr-14-08 11:45 PM |
#150 |
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Despicable and ominous. |
bbgrunt |
Apr-15-08 12:46 AM |
#151 |
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Does anyone know why Israel's government so often acts with |
Mozcram |
Apr-15-08 04:00 AM |
#154 |
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Perhaps because that's the nature of governments everywhere? |
LeftishBrit |
Apr-15-08 06:06 AM |
#158 |
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And I still say this is fucked up, right here. |
BlueIris |
Apr-16-08 07:06 PM |
#172 |
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