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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:27 AM
Response to Reply #63
73. It is a large complex with dormitory living, it was not like an apartment complex
After finding absolute evidence of child abuse, supported and encouraged by the entire adult community, they obtained warrants to both seize the children and to search the grounds for further evidence.
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  -FLDS retorts: Raid violated the sect's rights High Plains  Apr-08-08 11:43 AM   #0 
  - Child rape.  Shakespeare   Apr-08-08 11:46 AM   #1 
  - I've been wondering about the legality of all this myself.  High Plains   Apr-08-08 11:46 AM   #2 
  - One complaint apparently led to their immediately finding 18 other children  pnwmom   Apr-08-08 12:47 PM   #20 
  - They've been watching and studying what goes on in those compounds  JerseygirlCT   Apr-08-08 02:24 PM   #37 
  - Why Not? They Do It in Michigan  Demeter   Apr-08-08 04:48 PM   #51 
  - There are no longer any corners to cut  Winterblues   Apr-09-08 10:12 AM   #65 
  - The men weren't held prisoner, I'm sure. They WERE kept from  kestrel91316   Apr-23-08 12:13 PM   #79 
  - The Texas prosecutor's response to the complaint seems strange:  High Plains   Apr-08-08 11:51 AM   #3 
  - because there was probable cause - and a warrant issued - to search?  Lance_Boyle   Apr-08-08 12:01 PM   #4 
  - The warrant was for one guy--who isn't there--and the alleged complainant.  High Plains   Apr-08-08 12:04 PM   #6 
     - in the process of finding out he wasn't there, they saw criminal activity  Lance_Boyle   Apr-08-08 12:07 PM   #7 
     - Did they? Can you show me where somebody says that?  High Plains   Apr-08-08 12:33 PM   #17 
        - Doesn't Really Matter Anyway.  jayfish   Apr-08-08 01:46 PM   #31 
        - Frankly, I don't care terribly much  laptoprepairguy   Apr-22-08 06:06 PM   #71 
        - "re at imminent risk of harm, children we believe have been abused or neglected"  LanternWaste   Apr-23-08 12:25 PM   #80 
     - See my post #1.  Shakespeare   Apr-08-08 12:09 PM   #8 
     - Because if we don't defend the Consitution for unpopular folks...  AngryAmish   Apr-08-08 12:25 PM   #11 
     - Who says they're not getting due process?  Shakespeare   Apr-08-08 12:28 PM   #12 
     - The owners of the property say so  AngryAmish   Apr-08-08 12:32 PM   #15 
     - Oh, well, of COURSE we should believe that.  Shakespeare   Apr-08-08 01:01 PM   #24 
     - Or maybe this will turn out to be a fiasco like the 1953 mass kidnapping.  High Plains   Apr-08-08 12:40 PM   #19 
        - Or perhaps you missed the part about 133 women leaving voluntarily.  Shakespeare   Apr-08-08 01:02 PM   #25 
        - The 1953 "mass kidnapping" that freed hundreds of other child brides?  yardwork   Apr-09-08 09:36 AM   #64 
        - What leads you to believe that?  LanternWaste   Apr-09-08 10:19 AM   #66 
        - It won't.  LanternWaste   Apr-23-08 12:26 PM   #81 
     - Even a werewolf deserves a fair shake in the US justice system.  slampoet   Apr-08-08 12:28 PM   #13 
     - "Getting a fair shake" does not mean you leave them be when they're breaking the law.  Shakespeare   Apr-08-08 12:29 PM   #14 
        - So you live in the same apartment building as the werewolf and you are the same religion.  slampoet   Apr-08-08 09:31 PM   #57 
           - If they have probable cause, yes, they can search my apartment.  Shakespeare   Apr-08-08 10:00 PM   #59 
           - You are confusing a warrant and probable cause.  slampoet   Apr-09-08 01:08 AM   #60 
              - No, I'm not. The search warrant allows them entry.  Shakespeare   Apr-09-08 09:06 AM   #62 
           - This is not like an apartment  Marrah_G   Apr-23-08 07:50 AM   #74 
           - If they find blood trails leading to my door  dmallind   Apr-23-08 01:21 PM   #86 
     - And I assume they will have that benefit and their day in court  JerseygirlCT   Apr-08-08 02:26 PM   #38 
     - They are getting the same due process that I would  Marrah_G   Apr-23-08 07:24 AM   #72 
     - See my post #2. I support the Constitution.  High Plains   Apr-08-08 12:38 PM   #18 
     - I, too, support the constitution.  Shakespeare   Apr-08-08 01:04 PM   #26 
     - Let's not call OJ a murderer  sudopod   Apr-08-08 02:57 PM   #44 
     - Fuck the Constitution  Megahurtz   Apr-08-08 03:41 PM   #49 
     - couldn't have said it better  gator_in_Ontario   Apr-22-08 05:57 PM   #70 
     - Read the thread "breaking the baby"  junofeb   Apr-08-08 08:32 PM   #56 
        - I'm reading Under the Banner of Heaven now...  janx   Apr-23-08 12:32 PM   #83 
     - I thought that a person was innocent until proven guilty.  Preston120   Apr-08-08 01:37 PM   #29 
        - 4th amendment protects from UNREASONABLE search and seizure.  Shakespeare   Apr-08-08 01:45 PM   #30 
        - right to worship their "God" as they see fit,  AlbertCat   Apr-08-08 01:56 PM   #32 
        - No, it doesn't  Dorian Gray   Apr-08-08 02:27 PM   #39 
        - Who has been pronounced guilty by a court of law? nt  LanternWaste   Apr-23-08 12:28 PM   #82 
     - The warrant was also for evidence of that underage marriage.  LeftyMom   Apr-08-08 12:59 PM   #23 
  - Privacy is thrown out the window  Megahurtz   Apr-08-08 03:31 PM   #48 
  - "Advocates say Texas raid may terrorize those who need help"  High Plains   Apr-08-08 12:01 PM   #5 
  - Not likely. 133 women voluntarily left the compound while the search was going on.  Shakespeare   Apr-08-08 12:10 PM   #9 
  - Funny, articles I saw said the women left to be with their children.  High Plains   Apr-08-08 12:32 PM   #16 
  - Then your reading is incomplete. n/t  Shakespeare   Apr-08-08 01:05 PM   #27 
  - Not necessarily. They might have gone along merely to protect their children;  pnwmom   Apr-08-08 12:50 PM   #21 
  - here's some terror for you:  musette_sf   Apr-08-08 05:04 PM   #52 
     - what a f**king monster! and there are people here defending these shitbags?!  ima_sinnic   Apr-09-08 11:29 AM   #67 
     - these leaders need to be de-balled de-tongued and imprisoned for life  darue   Apr-09-08 03:25 PM   #69 
  - Violated their rights to rape and exploit children?  damntexdem   Apr-08-08 12:16 PM   #10 
  - Tough shit. They violated laws and common decency  Warpy   Apr-08-08 12:50 PM   #22 
  - Thank you.  mbperrin   Apr-08-08 01:15 PM   #28 
  - Yeah, and Saddam was going to attack us any minute with multiple types of WMD.  DCKit   Apr-08-08 02:21 PM   #35 
  - This is so utterly UNLIKE Waco, it's silly you'd even suggest it.  Shakespeare   Apr-08-08 02:29 PM   #41 
  - The main problem I've read all along for the people in the  Warpy   Apr-08-08 03:23 PM   #46 
  - And boy children too.  Ellen Forradalom   Apr-08-08 05:20 PM   #53 
  - You're right about the "lost boys"  Warpy   Apr-08-08 07:39 PM   #55 
  - Well said. Thanks for the sanity.  leftynyc   Apr-09-08 06:55 AM   #61 
  - This is so wrong in so many ways.  Jesuswasntafascist   Apr-08-08 02:00 PM   #33 
  - Brainwashing. Rape. Forced pregnancy.  Shakespeare   Apr-08-08 02:04 PM   #34 
  - Exactly.  JerseygirlCT   Apr-08-08 02:28 PM   #40 
  - How many young males have the cult members abandoned?  blondeatlast   Apr-08-08 02:52 PM   #42 
  - There is no constitutional right to abuse and imprison women and children  JerseygirlCT   Apr-08-08 02:23 PM   #36 
  - "desecration would be irreparable"  Freddie Stubbs   Apr-08-08 02:53 PM   #43 
  - They're right, and these guys will walk as a result.  Xithras   Apr-08-08 03:15 PM   #45 
  - You have no way of knowing that.  Shakespeare   Apr-08-08 04:11 PM   #50 
  - Isn't it -one- property? I doubt anyone has leases or other such agreements.  mainegreen   Apr-23-08 09:54 AM   #76 
  - One property. One lease. LLC ownership.  LanternWaste   Apr-23-08 12:39 PM   #84 
  - The right to  Megahurtz   Apr-08-08 03:27 PM   #47 
  - Absoutely!!  nookiemonster   Apr-08-08 09:51 PM   #58 
  - Even if they weren't raping children (which they were), I still have little patience with religous..  mitchum   Apr-08-08 05:32 PM   #54 
  - This appears illegal.  David__77   Apr-09-08 09:35 AM   #63 
  - The court will decide that today.  Shakespeare   Apr-09-08 11:39 AM   #68 
  - It is a large complex with dormitory living, it was not like an apartment complex  Marrah_G   Apr-23-08 07:27 AM   #73 
  - Does anyone call this "in our interest"? (see pic)  DogPoundPup   Apr-23-08 09:20 AM   #75 
  - See post #84 nt  LanternWaste   Apr-23-08 12:40 PM   #85 
  - At least their compound wasn't burned to the ground...  marshall   Apr-23-08 10:20 AM   #77 
  - But I'm sure that they will say that child rape is protected by the 11 and a half amendment  mitchum   Apr-23-08 11:09 AM   #78 
  - Who owns the property?  cstanleytech   Apr-23-08 03:07 PM   #87 

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