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Sat Mar-22-08 11:10 AM
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| 86. A testimonial! Excellent response. |
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| -Ruling: "Speak English" sign at cheesesteak shop not discriminatory |
onehandle |
Mar-20-08 06:25 AM |
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I hope they take this to court |
Paint It Black |
Mar-20-08 06:43 AM |
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"non-English speakers" isn't a protected class (nt) |
bean fidhleir |
Mar-20-08 06:53 AM |
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No, but nationality is |
Paint It Black |
Mar-20-08 07:54 AM |
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I'm sure you're right about his target. But it's not useful to know or even show that, since |
bean fidhleir |
Mar-20-08 10:03 AM |
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And they won't refuse service to you |
brooklynite |
Mar-20-08 01:25 PM |
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But you can't expect |
np33 |
Mar-22-08 10:44 AM |
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Does the sign say "no English, no service"? No, it doesn't |
Mike Daniels |
Mar-20-08 08:13 AM |
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The attached article shows the sign - there's no "please" on it. |
NCevilDUer |
Mar-20-08 12:18 PM |
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Ah, but their grandmothers |
hyphenate |
Mar-20-08 01:23 PM |
#37 |
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And how do you know they are refusing to learn? |
NCevilDUer |
Mar-20-08 01:54 PM |
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Many in my family still speak German. |
murielm99 |
Mar-21-08 01:57 AM |
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Who do we know of that has refused to learn English |
LanternWaste |
Mar-20-08 03:20 PM |
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Exactly, it is total BS. All immigrants learn English. So what is |
treestar |
Mar-23-08 10:24 AM |
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Actually, many of those grandmothers never did learn English. |
Gormy Cuss |
Mar-22-08 10:05 AM |
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My MIL never learned to speak English... |
zanne |
Mar-23-08 08:12 AM |
#94 |
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So is a Hispanic Dislexic someone who Refuses to learn? |
slampoet |
Mar-24-08 04:16 PM |
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Paper name is "Inquirer" (with an "I")! LOL |
BumRushDaShow |
Mar-20-08 08:17 AM |
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I do to, to recover legal fees for Vento |
MaryCeleste |
Mar-20-08 09:54 AM |
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Since no customers were turned away for not speaking English... |
slackmaster |
Mar-20-08 01:22 PM |
#36 |
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Not everything is a lawsuit..... |
tidy_bowl |
Mar-20-08 03:36 PM |
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I'll bet speaking Italian would be OK |
Red Zelda |
Mar-20-08 06:43 AM |
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I bet you're exactly right. |
lazyriver |
Mar-20-08 06:57 AM |
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Exactly what I was thinking. |
mac56 |
Mar-20-08 08:09 AM |
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Attuned minds think alike. |
Ellen Forradalom |
Mar-20-08 09:34 AM |
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So, to own a business |
DiverDave |
Mar-20-08 07:06 AM |
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It's Rude and Arrogant, But That's Not Illegal--It's GOP Standard Operating Procedure |
Demeter |
Mar-20-08 07:09 AM |
#6 |
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"but this is getting ridicules." |
slampoet |
Mar-20-08 01:33 PM |
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Sorry...should have spell checked |
DiverDave |
Mar-20-08 08:56 PM |
#55 |
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Wow an English major. |
slampoet |
Mar-20-08 09:37 PM |
#57 |
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Oops, I got it now |
DiverDave |
Mar-21-08 10:09 AM |
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I only correct monolinguals. You know the people that force others to learn their language? |
slampoet |
Mar-24-08 08:19 AM |
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"wouldn't have got" |
Skittles |
Mar-27-08 08:03 AM |
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No, but if you have a lot of customers of one nationality, you'll |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Mar-21-08 11:08 PM |
#76 |
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No, but you can be tolerant of ESL speakers |
treestar |
Mar-23-08 10:39 AM |
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I don't know about this... |
moose65 |
Mar-20-08 07:19 AM |
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The sign wasn't "please order in English" |
Ms. Toad |
Mar-24-08 07:01 AM |
#104 |
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Private business. |
Ordr |
Mar-20-08 07:30 AM |
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Good thing he doesn't want to allow smoking or something. |
High Plains |
Mar-21-08 11:15 AM |
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The sign had to be meant as a shout-out to his fellow xenophobes. People who don't speak English |
DemItAllAnyway |
Mar-20-08 08:35 AM |
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Very good point. |
mac56 |
Mar-20-08 08:42 AM |
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Speaking a language could be harder than reading it |
treestar |
Mar-23-08 10:17 AM |
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I think it IS harder than reading it |
jmowreader |
Mar-24-08 09:15 AM |
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Same here. I can barely read in 5-6 languages, but i can only speak English and just |
slampoet |
Mar-25-08 12:30 PM |
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By definition, it's discriminatory. |
Orsino |
Mar-20-08 08:35 AM |
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Yes. The antonym of discriminate is indiscriminate. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Mar-22-08 12:48 PM |
#89 |
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It's still illegal, wrong and outright racist. |
Xenotime |
Mar-24-08 07:49 AM |
#106 |
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Another right-wing stretching of reason |
gtar100 |
Mar-20-08 08:44 AM |
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A chip on their shoulder |
mac56 |
Mar-20-08 08:48 AM |
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When I was in Finland |
Centered |
Mar-20-08 09:40 AM |
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An Arab goes into a Greek restaurant in Wroclaw, Poland... |
izquierdista |
Mar-20-08 10:30 AM |
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hmmm |
Centered |
Mar-20-08 10:46 AM |
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It won't be at the Olympics |
izquierdista |
Mar-20-08 11:33 AM |
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might have a misunderstanding |
Centered |
Mar-21-08 11:34 AM |
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Chinese is first, Spanish is second in no. of people who speak it. |
Perragrande |
Mar-20-08 03:06 PM |
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Most Certainly Agree |
Centered |
Mar-21-08 10:59 AM |
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When I lived in Mexico |
LanternWaste |
Mar-20-08 03:23 PM |
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Good For you!! |
Centered |
Mar-21-08 11:06 AM |
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You know, if he had said please speak english, it might have not |
joeybee12 |
Mar-20-08 09:46 AM |
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But it DOES say please. |
Keefer |
Mar-20-08 04:38 PM |
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"This is America...speak English" - a sign of great ignorance. |
gtar100 |
Mar-21-08 12:47 AM |
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I think you're seeing things. |
NCevilDUer |
Mar-22-08 10:34 AM |
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It's hard to see - but it *is* there in yellow as pointed out. N/T |
axollot |
Mar-22-08 01:26 PM |
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Here's a better picture. |
Keefer |
Mar-23-08 10:16 AM |
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Oh gee, that's better. It says 'Please'. |
gtar100 |
Apr-11-08 02:11 AM |
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self delete |
MaryCeleste |
Mar-20-08 09:53 AM |
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surprising ruling |
Blue_Tires |
Mar-20-08 10:10 AM |
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my friend |
GTRMAN |
Mar-20-08 10:29 AM |
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"speak English" can be used as code talk |
cap |
Mar-20-08 10:29 AM |
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Exactly, how much proficiency does he require? |
treestar |
Mar-23-08 10:20 AM |
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Freedom of speech can be obnoxious, but taken in conjunction with other sign "we reseve the right to |
uppityperson |
Mar-20-08 11:07 AM |
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His business, his call, his loss. |
Zavulon |
Mar-20-08 11:40 AM |
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For a time, the Philly tour guides would direct people to Joe's competitors |
Mike Daniels |
Mar-20-08 02:18 PM |
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After traveling extensively throughout the southwest, I believe that |
Zorra |
Mar-20-08 11:40 AM |
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Why not? |
NCevilDUer |
Mar-20-08 12:11 PM |
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Doesn't Pa. have a primary coming up? |
KamaAina |
Mar-20-08 01:16 PM |
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Having worked in an industry where |
hyphenate |
Mar-20-08 01:20 PM |
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"he doesn't have the time to try and figure out... |
mac56 |
Mar-21-08 05:57 AM |
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As someone who deals daily with the public, |
Greylyn58 |
Mar-22-08 12:57 AM |
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It is interesting, though, while what you say is true |
treestar |
Mar-23-08 10:32 AM |
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A Very Logical Post! |
Megahurtz |
Mar-25-08 06:38 PM |
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Thats Conservative Justice for ya... n/t |
humbled_opinion |
Mar-20-08 01:24 PM |
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Joey Vento has taken this to the BANK. |
Pigwidgeon |
Mar-20-08 01:40 PM |
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Yes, like the antique dealer in NYC who is accepting payment only in Euros |
slackmaster |
Mar-20-08 02:03 PM |
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I have never ever seen more xenophobia then when I worked in a restaurant |
Traction311 |
Mar-20-08 02:26 PM |
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Then why is it called the INTERNATIONAL House of Pancakes? n/t |
kskiska |
Mar-22-08 01:59 AM |
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Hahaha! |
Traction311 |
Mar-22-08 12:07 PM |
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Loro no parlano Italiano? |
Perragrande |
Mar-20-08 02:49 PM |
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Then I can only surmise... |
LanternWaste |
Mar-20-08 03:17 PM |
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Only the tourons and drunk frat boys eat the dogmeat at Geno's |
pacoyogi |
Mar-20-08 05:12 PM |
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Geno's steaks would still suck regardless of what language you ordered in. |
MrSlayer |
Mar-20-08 05:50 PM |
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Jim's are good, but I have to go wid' Tony Lukes.... n/t |
pacoyogi |
Mar-25-08 07:50 AM |
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Hmm |
CHIMO |
Mar-20-08 09:18 PM |
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ironic then, that Quebec is like one big Geno's then, isn't it? |
provis99 |
Mar-21-08 04:04 AM |
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Just another reason we need "universal" language worldwide. |
KillCapitalism |
Mar-21-08 06:53 AM |
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Hey, now, none of that. |
NCevilDUer |
Mar-22-08 10:43 AM |
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One very stupid business person. If your 1st language was |
pokercat999 |
Mar-21-08 07:27 AM |
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I think people like that should be challenged. |
mmonk |
Mar-21-08 08:10 AM |
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Like it or not english is our national language. |
newfie11 |
Mar-21-08 10:25 AM |
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De veras? Nuestra lengua nacional? |
struggle4progress |
Mar-21-08 06:01 PM |
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Not officially. |
nathan hale |
Mar-21-08 08:42 PM |
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Lo que teman estas idiotas |
treestar |
Mar-23-08 10:38 AM |
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No, thats not it at all |
Throd |
Mar-25-08 12:40 PM |
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I think learning another language is a part of a proper education. |
kwenu |
Mar-26-08 03:22 PM |
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The United States does not have an official language. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Mar-22-08 12:51 PM |
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No. It will probably be soon since we've got rightwing judges. |
mmonk |
Mar-22-08 11:15 PM |
#93 |
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I was in London and most food servers were immigrants |
treestar |
Mar-23-08 10:35 AM |
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I agree. |
Megahurtz |
Mar-24-08 03:09 PM |
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No one is arguing that the store owner doesn't have the righ to be an ass... |
LanternWaste |
Mar-25-08 12:54 PM |
#128 |
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Being an ugly American isn't illegal |
depakid |
Mar-21-08 06:06 PM |
#72 |
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Freedom of Speech doesn't apply when you're not speaking English? |
Octafish |
Mar-21-08 07:00 PM |
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It's Vento's freedom of speech that's being protected... |
Fountain79 |
Mar-26-08 10:39 AM |
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Just makes sense to use the native language. |
bamacrat |
Mar-21-08 07:47 PM |
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Why in a free country is this ever an issue? Why can't people understand that not everyone |
Mountainman |
Mar-22-08 01:01 AM |
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Newsflash: being a giant dick is not illegal |
dmesg |
Mar-22-08 02:16 AM |
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Like across the street at Pat's (I like them a bit better actually) (n/t) |
harun |
Mar-24-08 08:00 AM |
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Go to Pat's! |
modrepub |
Mar-22-08 08:14 AM |
#81 |
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A testimonial! Excellent response. |
slackmaster |
Mar-22-08 11:10 AM |
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Both suck |
Snarkturian Clone |
Mar-24-08 07:32 AM |
#105 |
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lukes is better |
undercoverbook |
Mar-26-08 10:49 AM |
#136 |
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II own a small business and, while I do not and would never consider posting |
kestrel91316 |
Mar-22-08 11:32 AM |
#87 |
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Guess the Idiot won't be eating there. |
fshrink |
Mar-22-08 12:56 PM |
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What possible harm is there in people speaking to each other |
treestar |
Mar-23-08 10:14 AM |
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Having lived in Miami, FL, until 1989, I remember that Spanish |
RebelOne |
Mar-24-08 07:55 AM |
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The Whining On This Thread Is Stupid. |
Megahurtz |
Mar-24-08 03:30 PM |
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The entire Health Care industry has CUE CARDS with phrases on them..... |
slampoet |
Mar-24-08 03:50 PM |
#113 |
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I've worked in countless restaurants |
Megahurtz |
Mar-24-08 04:37 PM |
#116 |
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Who made up the Rule about english? |
slampoet |
Mar-24-08 06:40 PM |
#118 |
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English IS our National language |
Megahurtz |
Mar-24-08 08:57 PM |
#119 |
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Absolutely, 100% right. |
Ordr |
Mar-25-08 07:36 AM |
#120 |
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They point to it on a Spanish menu that says the same thing as the English one. |
slampoet |
Mar-25-08 12:22 PM |
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I Have Several Points Here |
Megahurtz |
Mar-25-08 04:49 PM |
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Could you please repost in English? I don't speak emoticon. |
slampoet |
Mar-26-08 09:02 AM |
#134 |
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Can you understand this then? |
Megahurtz |
Mar-26-08 01:57 PM |
#137 |
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What's the National language of Switzerland? |
LanternWaste |
Mar-27-08 09:46 AM |
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???AND |
Megahurtz |
Mar-25-08 05:05 PM |
#131 |
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I lived in MX for eighteen months... |
LanternWaste |
Mar-27-08 09:43 AM |
#144 |
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Precisely how I feel... |
LanternWaste |
Mar-26-08 04:59 PM |
#140 |
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What if it said "Please state your order in English" |
marshall |
Mar-24-08 03:52 PM |
#114 |
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Your revenues from tourism are crashing |
Karenina |
Mar-24-08 04:40 PM |
#117 |
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what about ''management reserves right to refuse service''? that's in pic on story |
yurbud |
Mar-25-08 09:48 AM |
#122 |
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Great post. |
slampoet |
Mar-25-08 12:25 PM |
#125 |
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Just boycott, geez! |
TexasBushwhacker |
Mar-25-08 10:08 AM |
#123 |
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Has anybody Noticed the Sign Isn't Printed in Proper English? |
slampoet |
Mar-25-08 04:26 PM |
#129 |
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"quotation marks" shouldn't be capitalized. |
chixydix |
Mar-26-08 06:09 PM |
#142 |
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Does this mean that if I order in deutsch, I will not be served? nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Mar-25-08 06:53 PM |
#133 |
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All of this discourse just reinforces one aspect of American life. |
VaYallaDawg |
Mar-26-08 03:38 PM |
#139 |
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The sign was a 'political statement'? More like a publicity stunt |
NoGOPZone |
Mar-26-08 05:29 PM |
#141 |
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