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63. One very stupid business person. If your 1st language was
something other than Americanized English would you want to eat a sandwich made by this clown?
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  -Ruling: "Speak English" sign at cheesesteak shop not discriminatory onehandle  Mar-20-08 06:25 AM   #0 
  - I hope they take this to court  Paint It Black   Mar-20-08 06:43 AM   #1 
  - "non-English speakers" isn't a protected class (nt)  bean fidhleir   Mar-20-08 06:53 AM   #3 
  - No, but nationality is  Paint It Black   Mar-20-08 07:54 AM   #9 
     - I'm sure you're right about his target. But it's not useful to know or even show that, since  bean fidhleir   Mar-20-08 10:03 AM   #23 
     - And they won't refuse service to you  brooklynite   Mar-20-08 01:25 PM   #39 
     - But you can't expect  np33   Mar-22-08 10:44 AM   #85 
  - Does the sign say "no English, no service"? No, it doesn't  Mike Daniels   Mar-20-08 08:13 AM   #11 
  - The attached article shows the sign - there's no "please" on it.  NCevilDUer   Mar-20-08 12:18 PM   #33 
     - Ah, but their grandmothers  hyphenate   Mar-20-08 01:23 PM   #37 
        - And how do you know they are refusing to learn?  NCevilDUer   Mar-20-08 01:54 PM   #42 
        - Many in my family still speak German.  murielm99   Mar-21-08 01:57 AM   #59 
        - Who do we know of that has refused to learn English  LanternWaste   Mar-20-08 03:20 PM   #49 
        - Exactly, it is total BS. All immigrants learn English. So what is  treestar   Mar-23-08 10:24 AM   #99 
        - Actually, many of those grandmothers never did learn English.  Gormy Cuss   Mar-22-08 10:05 AM   #82 
        - My MIL never learned to speak English...  zanne   Mar-23-08 08:12 AM   #94 
        - So is a Hispanic Dislexic someone who Refuses to learn?  slampoet   Mar-24-08 04:16 PM   #115 
  - Paper name is "Inquirer" (with an "I")! LOL  BumRushDaShow   Mar-20-08 08:17 AM   #12 
  - I do to, to recover legal fees for Vento  MaryCeleste   Mar-20-08 09:54 AM   #22 
  - Since no customers were turned away for not speaking English...  slackmaster   Mar-20-08 01:22 PM   #36 
  - Not everything is a lawsuit.....  tidy_bowl   Mar-20-08 03:36 PM   #51 
  - I'll bet speaking Italian would be OK  Red Zelda   Mar-20-08 06:43 AM   #2 
  - I bet you're exactly right.  lazyriver   Mar-20-08 06:57 AM   #4 
  - Exactly what I was thinking.  mac56   Mar-20-08 08:09 AM   #10 
  - Attuned minds think alike.  Ellen Forradalom   Mar-20-08 09:34 AM   #18 
  - So, to own a business  DiverDave   Mar-20-08 07:06 AM   #5 
  - It's Rude and Arrogant, But That's Not Illegal--It's GOP Standard Operating Procedure  Demeter   Mar-20-08 07:09 AM   #6 
  - "but this is getting ridicules."  slampoet   Mar-20-08 01:33 PM   #40 
  - Sorry...should have spell checked  DiverDave   Mar-20-08 08:56 PM   #55 
     - Wow an English major.  slampoet   Mar-20-08 09:37 PM   #57 
        - Oops, I got it now  DiverDave   Mar-21-08 10:09 AM   #65 
        - I only correct monolinguals. You know the people that force others to learn their language?  slampoet   Mar-24-08 08:19 AM   #109 
        - "wouldn't have got"  Skittles   Mar-27-08 08:03 AM   #143 
  - No, but if you have a lot of customers of one nationality, you'll  Lydia Leftcoast   Mar-21-08 11:08 PM   #76 
  - No, but you can be tolerant of ESL speakers  treestar   Mar-23-08 10:39 AM   #103 
  - I don't know about this...  moose65   Mar-20-08 07:19 AM   #7 
  - The sign wasn't "please order in English"  Ms. Toad   Mar-24-08 07:01 AM   #104 
  - Private business.  Ordr   Mar-20-08 07:30 AM   #8 
  - Good thing he doesn't want to allow smoking or something.  High Plains   Mar-21-08 11:15 AM   #69 
  - The sign had to be meant as a shout-out to his fellow xenophobes. People who don't speak English  DemItAllAnyway   Mar-20-08 08:35 AM   #13 
  - Very good point.  mac56   Mar-20-08 08:42 AM   #15 
     - Speaking a language could be harder than reading it  treestar   Mar-23-08 10:17 AM   #97 
        - I think it IS harder than reading it  jmowreader   Mar-24-08 09:15 AM   #110 
           - Same here. I can barely read in 5-6 languages, but i can only speak English and just  slampoet   Mar-25-08 12:30 PM   #126 
  - By definition, it's discriminatory.  Orsino   Mar-20-08 08:35 AM   #14 
  - Yes. The antonym of discriminate is indiscriminate.  lumberjack_jeff   Mar-22-08 12:48 PM   #89 
     - It's still illegal, wrong and outright racist.  Xenotime   Mar-24-08 07:49 AM   #106 
  - Another right-wing stretching of reason  gtar100   Mar-20-08 08:44 AM   #16 
  - A chip on their shoulder  mac56   Mar-20-08 08:48 AM   #17 
  - When I was in Finland  Centered   Mar-20-08 09:40 AM   #19 
  - An Arab goes into a Greek restaurant in Wroclaw, Poland...  izquierdista   Mar-20-08 10:30 AM   #26 
  - hmmm  Centered   Mar-20-08 10:46 AM   #27 
     - It won't be at the Olympics  izquierdista   Mar-20-08 11:33 AM   #29 
     - might have a misunderstanding  Centered   Mar-21-08 11:34 AM   #70 
     - Chinese is first, Spanish is second in no. of people who speak it.  Perragrande   Mar-20-08 03:06 PM   #47 
        - Most Certainly Agree  Centered   Mar-21-08 10:59 AM   #67 
  - When I lived in Mexico  LanternWaste   Mar-20-08 03:23 PM   #50 
     - Good For you!!  Centered   Mar-21-08 11:06 AM   #68 
  - You know, if he had said please speak english, it might have not  joeybee12   Mar-20-08 09:46 AM   #20 
  - But it DOES say please.  Keefer   Mar-20-08 04:38 PM   #52 
     - "This is America...speak English" - a sign of great ignorance.  gtar100   Mar-21-08 12:47 AM   #58 
     - I think you're seeing things.  NCevilDUer   Mar-22-08 10:34 AM   #83 
        - It's hard to see - but it *is* there in yellow as pointed out. N/T  axollot   Mar-22-08 01:26 PM   #92 
        - Here's a better picture.  Keefer   Mar-23-08 10:16 AM   #96 
           - Oh gee, that's better. It says 'Please'.  gtar100   Apr-11-08 02:11 AM   #146 
  - self delete  MaryCeleste   Mar-20-08 09:53 AM   #21 
  - surprising ruling  Blue_Tires   Mar-20-08 10:10 AM   #24 
  - my friend  GTRMAN   Mar-20-08 10:29 AM   # 
  - "speak English" can be used as code talk  cap   Mar-20-08 10:29 AM   #25 
  - Exactly, how much proficiency does he require?  treestar   Mar-23-08 10:20 AM   #98 
  - Freedom of speech can be obnoxious, but taken in conjunction with other sign "we reseve the right to  uppityperson   Mar-20-08 11:07 AM   #28 
  - His business, his call, his loss.  Zavulon   Mar-20-08 11:40 AM   #30 
  - For a time, the Philly tour guides would direct people to Joe's competitors  Mike Daniels   Mar-20-08 02:18 PM   #44 
  - After traveling extensively throughout the southwest, I believe that  Zorra   Mar-20-08 11:40 AM   #31 
  - Why not?  NCevilDUer   Mar-20-08 12:11 PM   #32 
  - Doesn't Pa. have a primary coming up?  KamaAina   Mar-20-08 01:16 PM   #34 
  - Having worked in an industry where  hyphenate   Mar-20-08 01:20 PM   #35 
  - "he doesn't have the time to try and figure out...  mac56   Mar-21-08 05:57 AM   #61 
  - As someone who deals daily with the public,  Greylyn58   Mar-22-08 12:57 AM   #77 
  - It is interesting, though, while what you say is true  treestar   Mar-23-08 10:32 AM   #100 
  - A Very Logical Post!  Megahurtz   Mar-25-08 06:38 PM   #132 
  - Thats Conservative Justice for ya... n/t  humbled_opinion   Mar-20-08 01:24 PM   #38 
  - Joey Vento has taken this to the BANK.  Pigwidgeon   Mar-20-08 01:40 PM   #41 
  - Yes, like the antique dealer in NYC who is accepting payment only in Euros  slackmaster   Mar-20-08 02:03 PM   #43 
  - I have never ever seen more xenophobia then when I worked in a restaurant  Traction311   Mar-20-08 02:26 PM   #45 
  - Then why is it called the INTERNATIONAL House of Pancakes? n/t  kskiska   Mar-22-08 01:59 AM   #79 
     - Hahaha!  Traction311   Mar-22-08 12:07 PM   #88 
  - Loro no parlano Italiano?  Perragrande   Mar-20-08 02:49 PM   #46 
  - Then I can only surmise...  LanternWaste   Mar-20-08 03:17 PM   #48 
  - Only the tourons and drunk frat boys eat the dogmeat at Geno's  pacoyogi   Mar-20-08 05:12 PM   #53 
  - Geno's steaks would still suck regardless of what language you ordered in.  MrSlayer   Mar-20-08 05:50 PM   #54 
  - Jim's are good, but I have to go wid' Tony Lukes.... n/t  pacoyogi   Mar-25-08 07:50 AM   #121 
  - Hmm  CHIMO   Mar-20-08 09:18 PM   #56 
  - ironic then, that Quebec is like one big Geno's then, isn't it?  provis99   Mar-21-08 04:04 AM   #60 
  - Just another reason we need "universal" language worldwide.  KillCapitalism   Mar-21-08 06:53 AM   #62 
  - Hey, now, none of that.  NCevilDUer   Mar-22-08 10:43 AM   #84 
  - One very stupid business person. If your 1st language was  pokercat999   Mar-21-08 07:27 AM   #63 
  - I think people like that should be challenged.  mmonk   Mar-21-08 08:10 AM   #64 
  - Like it or not english is our national language.  newfie11   Mar-21-08 10:25 AM   #66 
     - De veras? Nuestra lengua nacional?  struggle4progress   Mar-21-08 06:01 PM   #71 
     - Not officially.  nathan hale   Mar-21-08 08:42 PM   #75 
     - Lo que teman estas idiotas  treestar   Mar-23-08 10:38 AM   #102 
        - No, thats not it at all  Throd   Mar-25-08 12:40 PM   #127 
        - I think learning another language is a part of a proper education.  kwenu   Mar-26-08 03:22 PM   #138 
     - The United States does not have an official language.  lumberjack_jeff   Mar-22-08 12:51 PM   #90 
     - No. It will probably be soon since we've got rightwing judges.  mmonk   Mar-22-08 11:15 PM   #93 
     - I was in London and most food servers were immigrants  treestar   Mar-23-08 10:35 AM   #101 
     - I agree.  Megahurtz   Mar-24-08 03:09 PM   #111 
     - No one is arguing that the store owner doesn't have the righ to be an ass...  LanternWaste   Mar-25-08 12:54 PM   #128 
  - Being an ugly American isn't illegal  depakid   Mar-21-08 06:06 PM   #72 
  - Freedom of Speech doesn't apply when you're not speaking English?  Octafish   Mar-21-08 07:00 PM   #73 
  - It's Vento's freedom of speech that's being protected...  Fountain79   Mar-26-08 10:39 AM   #135 
  - Just makes sense to use the native language.  bamacrat   Mar-21-08 07:47 PM   #74 
  - Why in a free country is this ever an issue? Why can't people understand that not everyone  Mountainman   Mar-22-08 01:01 AM   #78 
  - Newsflash: being a giant dick is not illegal  dmesg   Mar-22-08 02:16 AM   #80 
  - Like across the street at Pat's (I like them a bit better actually) (n/t)  harun   Mar-24-08 08:00 AM   #108 
  - Go to Pat's!  modrepub   Mar-22-08 08:14 AM   #81 
  - A testimonial! Excellent response.  slackmaster   Mar-22-08 11:10 AM   #86 
  - Both suck  Snarkturian Clone   Mar-24-08 07:32 AM   #105 
  - lukes is better  undercoverbook   Mar-26-08 10:49 AM   #136 
  - II own a small business and, while I do not and would never consider posting  kestrel91316   Mar-22-08 11:32 AM   #87 
  - Guess the Idiot won't be eating there.  fshrink   Mar-22-08 12:56 PM   #91 
  - What possible harm is there in people speaking to each other  treestar   Mar-23-08 10:14 AM   #95 
  - Having lived in Miami, FL, until 1989, I remember that Spanish  RebelOne   Mar-24-08 07:55 AM   #107 
  - The Whining On This Thread Is Stupid.  Megahurtz   Mar-24-08 03:30 PM   #112 
  - The entire Health Care industry has CUE CARDS with phrases on them.....  slampoet   Mar-24-08 03:50 PM   #113 
  - I've worked in countless restaurants  Megahurtz   Mar-24-08 04:37 PM   #116 
     - Who made up the Rule about english?  slampoet   Mar-24-08 06:40 PM   #118 
     - English IS our National language  Megahurtz   Mar-24-08 08:57 PM   #119 
     - Absolutely, 100% right.  Ordr   Mar-25-08 07:36 AM   #120 
     - They point to it on a Spanish menu that says the same thing as the English one.  slampoet   Mar-25-08 12:22 PM   #124 
     - I Have Several Points Here  Megahurtz   Mar-25-08 04:49 PM   #130 
        - Could you please repost in English? I don't speak emoticon.  slampoet   Mar-26-08 09:02 AM   #134 
           - Can you understand this then?  Megahurtz   Mar-26-08 01:57 PM   #137 
     - What's the National language of Switzerland?  LanternWaste   Mar-27-08 09:46 AM   #145 
     - ???AND  Megahurtz   Mar-25-08 05:05 PM   #131 
     - I lived in MX for eighteen months...  LanternWaste   Mar-27-08 09:43 AM   #144 
  - Precisely how I feel...  LanternWaste   Mar-26-08 04:59 PM   #140 
  - What if it said "Please state your order in English"  marshall   Mar-24-08 03:52 PM   #114 
  - Your revenues from tourism are crashing  Karenina   Mar-24-08 04:40 PM   #117 
  - what about ''management reserves right to refuse service''? that's in pic on story  yurbud   Mar-25-08 09:48 AM   #122 
  - Great post.  slampoet   Mar-25-08 12:25 PM   #125 
  - Just boycott, geez!  TexasBushwhacker   Mar-25-08 10:08 AM   #123 
  - Has anybody Noticed the Sign Isn't Printed in Proper English?  slampoet   Mar-25-08 04:26 PM   #129 
  - "quotation marks" shouldn't be capitalized.  chixydix   Mar-26-08 06:09 PM   #142 
  - Does this mean that if I order in deutsch, I will not be served? nt  and-justice-for-all   Mar-25-08 06:53 PM   #133 
  - All of this discourse just reinforces one aspect of American life.  VaYallaDawg   Mar-26-08 03:38 PM   #139 
  - The sign was a 'political statement'? More like a publicity stunt  NoGOPZone   Mar-26-08 05:29 PM   #141 
 

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