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| 22. Should the Fed Save Wall Street Firms? |
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http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2008/03/17/should-the-fe... / Joseph Mason, an economist at Drexel University who has studied bailouts, weighs in on the moral hazard problem created by the Federal Reserve’s intervention (in the name of market stability) to prop up Bear Stearns on Friday and the Fed’s $30 billion loan to support J.P. Morgan Chase’s purchase of the firm. The deal announced with J.P. Morgan still leaves the possibility that the Fed will retain significant counterparty risk. Such an arrangement is akin to the FDIC’s practice of covering all deposits, even those in excess of $100,000 during the thrift crisis. If counterparties are not deterred from contracting with weak institutions immediately the stage will be set for unsound institutions to sell risk on the cheap, on the presumption that the Fed will act as a backstop. … Unlike a commercial bank there is no social need to rescue Bear. Commercial banks’ funding through consumer deposits necessitates a maturity mismatch: Bear chose a similarly mismatched funding structure. Bear also chose to be one of the largest originators of a mortgage product that turned out to be not only uneconomical, but economically harmful. To support such funding and investment practices would therefore be entirely socially and economically inappropriate. The regulators need to end their denial and come to terms with the fact that the credit losses will substantially harm some firms. Getting away with realizing those losses and dealing with them effectively by attracting capital to the sound institutions and closing the unsound will speed recovery and ameliorate the recession.
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| -STOCK MARKET WATCH, Tuesday March 18 |
ozymandius |
Mar-18-08 04:58 AM |
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Market WrapUp: The Year of Living Dangerously |
ozymandius |
Mar-18-08 05:08 AM |
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inflation will increase at a faster rate,... the commodity sector will continue to thrive |
TheBorealAvenger |
Mar-18-08 05:49 AM |
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Today's Reports |
ozymandius |
Mar-18-08 05:12 AM |
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U.S. Feb. single-family housing starts fall to 17-year low - U.S. Feb. PPI rises 6.4% year over year |
UpInArms |
Mar-18-08 07:36 AM |
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Oil steady above $106 after steep fall |
ozymandius |
Mar-18-08 05:14 AM |
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Oil rebounds ahead of Fed move |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 10:47 AM |
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Court reverses Exxon freeze on Venezuela assets |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 10:48 AM |
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Oooh! That's Gotta Smart! |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 01:30 PM |
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Fed poised to cut rates again |
ozymandius |
Mar-18-08 05:17 AM |
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How many times can they do this before it doesn't matter? |
Political Heretic |
Mar-18-08 12:45 PM |
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After Bear Stearns rescue, who's next? |
ozymandius |
Mar-18-08 05:21 AM |
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Lehman rout tests Fed's resolve |
ozymandius |
Mar-18-08 05:33 AM |
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No early trading report on Lehman Bros. |
formercia |
Mar-18-08 05:57 AM |
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Merrill riskiest after Bear Stearns, says Wachovia |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 10:45 AM |
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World markets attempt rebound before Fed decision |
ozymandius |
Mar-18-08 05:26 AM |
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Asian Stocks Rise, Led by Insurers; China's Equities Tumble |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 06:34 AM |
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China Stocks Drop to 8-Month Low as Wen Vows to Fight Inflation |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 06:37 AM |
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China Increases Bank Reserve Ratio to Cool Inflation |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 07:03 AM |
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Hong Kong May Ditch Dollar Peg as Currency Drops, Says Nomura |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 06:42 AM |
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The dollar in Japan: Investment risk or opportunity? |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 06:46 AM |
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I'll check back later folks. |
ozymandius |
Mar-18-08 05:36 AM |
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Lehman up in Germany |
Joanne98 |
Mar-18-08 05:55 AM |
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London shares rebound ahead of Fed rate decision |
Joanne98 |
Mar-18-08 06:01 AM |
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European stocks recover, Fed rate cut awaited |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 08:02 AM |
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FTSE rebounds, banks lead as Fed verdict expected |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 08:04 AM |
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Europe shares extend gains on higher US open |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 10:50 AM |
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European stocks close up 3.5% before Fed decision |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 01:51 PM |
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FTSE soars 3.5 pct on hopes for hefty US rate cut |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 01:54 PM |
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Americans simply don't have enough money |
Joanne98 |
Mar-18-08 06:09 AM |
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Isn't that the definition of bankrupt? |
Tansy_Gold |
Mar-18-08 09:53 PM |
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We Are Being Bernanke'd By amydemiceli |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 06:18 AM |
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What is happening with the economy? By Dr. Abbas Bakhtiar |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 06:29 AM |
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The US economy is about to suffer a painful dose of reality. About time, too |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 06:59 AM |
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Why do you hate Murika? |
Wednesdays |
Mar-18-08 08:46 AM |
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Healthcare fraud trial in Columbus, Ohio - 2nd trial update |
DemReadingDU |
Mar-18-08 06:30 AM |
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Bad News for Bear Shareholders is Good News for the Markets |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 06:56 AM |
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Should the Fed Save Wall Street Firms? |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 06:57 AM |
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Rescue Tests the Credibility of the Fed |
UpInArms |
Mar-18-08 07:18 AM |
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Fed's Bear Bailout Hobbles Free Markets |
UpInArms |
Mar-18-08 09:48 AM |
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and what are we saving these corporations with? Our $9 trillion deficit, credit from Saudi A and |
wordpix |
Mar-18-08 10:33 AM |
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Too Big to Bail: The Fed's Wall Street Dilemma By Pam Martens |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 07:07 AM |
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Related article from Oz |
Danascot |
Mar-18-08 01:02 PM |
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OMG, this is like The Onion, only not funny. |
donkeyotay |
Mar-18-08 01:07 PM |
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I'm trying to make it through this article without having a stoke. |
donkeyotay |
Mar-18-08 01:24 PM |
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I Shall Have to Post Warnings Then |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 01:27 PM |
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dollar watch |
UpInArms |
Mar-18-08 07:07 AM |
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Euro= USD 1.583, GBP 0.787, CHF 1.547 and JPY 152.9 at this time |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 07:45 AM |
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"Bernankerupted”: Bear Stearns Fire-sale sends Global Markets Plunging; Dollar Routed |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 07:24 AM |
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Today's Market Melody: A request, "Mister Sandman"... |
Prag |
Mar-18-08 08:38 AM |
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Sung By the Andrews Sisters in the Previous Depression, I Believe |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 09:07 AM |
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Households face the unthinkable: budgeting |
UpInArms |
Mar-18-08 07:25 AM |
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This Is Exactly Why I Divorced |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 07:29 AM |
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I always pinch each penny twice... |
Prag |
Mar-18-08 08:41 AM |
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People used to tell me that I pinched pennies so hard |
Warpy |
Mar-18-08 10:57 AM |
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nice to see some people waking up |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Mar-18-08 09:59 AM |
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Perhaps if CEOs and our government |
fasttense |
Mar-18-08 11:26 AM |
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"US losing confidence vote as investors flee" |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 07:27 AM |
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How the Prisoner's Dilemma and Unintended Consequences are Accelerating the Credit Crisis |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 07:31 AM |
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Wall Street fears for next Great Depression By Margareta Pagano, Business Editor Independent.co.uk |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 07:34 AM |
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Well, I have been "in a total state of shock, aghast " since December 2000 |
TheBorealAvenger |
Mar-18-08 09:38 AM |
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Citigroup announces layoff of 185 home equity sales workers |
4dsc |
Mar-18-08 08:09 AM |
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I Expect They Are Thinking That All That Paper Equity Has Evaporated in the Housing Price Slump |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 08:52 AM |
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No, they can no longer shop home loans around to |
Warpy |
Mar-18-08 11:03 AM |
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Yeh, that will fix things...lay off the workers... |
InkAddict |
Mar-18-08 11:12 AM |
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9:54am - Pass the Xanax/Oxycontin cocktail please. |
Roland99 |
Mar-18-08 08:55 AM |
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Expect some serious profit taking soon..... |
formercia |
Mar-18-08 09:03 AM |
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on CNBC-Fed Decision...are they going to lower the prime rate AGAIN? |
w8liftinglady |
Mar-18-08 09:02 AM |
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Think of the positive side |
formercia |
Mar-18-08 09:11 AM |
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And Bush's Place in History Is Secure! |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 09:19 AM |
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That's one way to get rid of Lead Paint. |
formercia |
Mar-18-08 09:27 AM |
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at least til Friday ... |
dweller |
Mar-18-08 09:29 AM |
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how about those who want to save for retirement or college without pouring all their $$$ |
wordpix |
Mar-18-08 10:48 AM |
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Efficient Markets Can Value Assets. Ours Can't |
UpInArms |
Mar-18-08 09:54 AM |
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As crisis deepens, Fed steps up role By Ron Scherer |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 09:58 AM |
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"it said securities dealers could borrow for up to six months"---borrowing from the Fed, i.e. US |
wordpix |
Mar-18-08 11:01 AM |
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Plaza Watch: Bear Stearns Chairman [ Cayne] in for $25 million |
wordpix |
Mar-18-08 11:04 AM |
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Disgorge profits, a legal term sometimes applied to crooks and their ill-gotten gains, |
donkeyotay |
Mar-18-08 06:05 PM |
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How close are we to a liquidity trap? Paul Krugman |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 10:00 AM |
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If You're A Real Wonk: The Bear Stearns-JP Morgan Merger Document |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 10:05 AM |
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Loretta Napoleoni: Bear Stearns and Carlyle Debacles Are a "Modern-Day Greek Tragedy" |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 10:11 AM |
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Commodities: "The big fall is coming" |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 10:16 AM |
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I don't think this will apply to food commodities. |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Mar-18-08 10:49 AM |
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I dont' think oil will fall much, either |
wordpix |
Mar-18-08 11:05 AM |
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May 2009 futures are down today over $3 |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Mar-18-08 11:08 AM |
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No but a food commodities bubble will do exactly what a housing bubble has |
TalkingDog |
Mar-18-08 11:08 AM |
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Hard to Say |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 01:25 PM |
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He's right |
Warpy |
Mar-18-08 12:08 PM |
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The Logical Follow Up Question: Where Did the Big Guys Go Next? |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 01:23 PM |
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Beats the hell out of me |
Warpy |
Mar-18-08 01:26 PM |
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I'm Guessing Gold |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 01:36 PM |
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Fed Watch: Anything and Everything is On The Table BY Tim Duy |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 10:28 AM |
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Systemic Risk From an Outsized Fannie and Freddie? |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 10:32 AM |
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Fed's Strategy to Halt Debt Meltdown is Not Working |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 10:37 AM |
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Okay, okay, I know this is a radical suggestion, but what would |
Tansy_Gold |
Mar-18-08 12:46 PM |
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Pinko Commie |
DemocratInSoCal |
Mar-18-08 12:53 PM |
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Seeing a former seven-figure CEO on the streets begging |
Tansy_Gold |
Mar-18-08 07:34 PM |
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The World Would End |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 01:24 PM |
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Well, at least THEIR world would end. |
Tansy_Gold |
Mar-18-08 08:28 PM |
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Goldman, Lehman earnings fall but top views |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 10:41 AM |
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Woohoo! The trip to Vegas is back on again! |
Jersey Devil |
Mar-18-08 11:16 AM |
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"Goldman's report was a good report and Lehman's was not the end of the world." |
wordpix |
Mar-18-08 12:51 PM |
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Nouriel Roubini's Global EconoMonitor / A Generalized Run on the Shadow Financial System |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 10:41 AM |
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Wall St jumps as financials rebound |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 10:43 AM |
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CNBC bobbleheads are ecstatic. Apparently things are all better now. |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Mar-18-08 11:05 AM |
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did you listen to the talk with JP Morgan head this morning? |
w8liftinglady |
Mar-18-08 11:10 AM |
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"Fed will simply inject more money into system" - great thing to base our economy on |
wordpix |
Mar-18-08 12:41 PM |
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Fixing The Country's Infrastructure? |
DemocratInSoCal |
Mar-18-08 12:49 PM |
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We will win... "The War on Potholes!" |
Prag |
Mar-18-08 01:57 PM |
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So..Lehmann profit falls 57%..and their stocks soar?I am in a parallel universe |
w8liftinglady |
Mar-18-08 11:08 AM |
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yep. It didn't fall as much as expected, so everything is hunky-dorry. |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Mar-18-08 11:12 AM |
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Stocks have also fallen sharply after 100% rises in profits. |
Zynx |
Mar-18-08 12:34 PM |
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Hey Bear's up to 8$ today! It will probably go back up to 20$ |
Joanne98 |
Mar-18-08 11:28 AM |
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Expectations matter here. |
Zynx |
Mar-18-08 12:33 PM |
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Canada having problems with a whole class of debt; put under Bankruptcy protection |
Robbien |
Mar-18-08 11:31 AM |
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update: markets ecstatic over socialized banking losses |
ozymandius |
Mar-18-08 12:45 PM |
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Financials surge ahead of expected Fed rate cut |
ozymandius |
Mar-18-08 12:54 PM |
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The Tension Is Unbearable |
DemocratInSoCal |
Mar-18-08 12:46 PM |
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bwahahaha: "figure out a way to eventually drop rates Below 0%" |
wordpix |
Mar-18-08 12:53 PM |
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Boeing protest says Air Force changed rules to favor Northrop/EADS team in $35B tanker award |
wordpix |
Mar-18-08 12:47 PM |
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Mortgage Rates To Drop On Fed Move.......JUST KIDDING!! |
DemocratInSoCal |
Mar-18-08 12:58 PM |
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It's A 75 Basis Point Cut nt |
DemocratInSoCal |
Mar-18-08 01:16 PM |
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FOMC CUTS FEDERAL FUNDS RATE BY 75 BASIS POINTS TO 2.25% |
girl gone mad |
Mar-18-08 01:22 PM |
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Looks Like The Markets Are Unhappy |
Demeter |
Mar-18-08 01:39 PM |
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It's the traps... |
Prag |
Mar-18-08 01:44 PM |
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Wall Street Pares Gains After Fed Decision |
Danascot |
Mar-18-08 01:49 PM |
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Fed cuts key interest rates by 3/4 point |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-18-08 02:11 PM |
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~15:00 EDT: "Stocks clmb(sic) after smaller-than-expected cut" |
Prag |
Mar-18-08 02:05 PM |
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Who pumped up the market over 400points! |
DemReadingDU |
Mar-18-08 03:14 PM |
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You know, it's not beyond the possible that discounted funds were used |
ozymandius |
Mar-18-08 04:00 PM |
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There have been lots of Lehman rumors |
DemReadingDU |
Mar-18-08 04:07 PM |
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DIABETIC PATIENT WHO CAN NO LONGER REGULATE GLUCOSE |
ashevillepolitics |
Mar-18-08 10:00 PM |
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I do not feel sorry for those who got burned shorting Lehman. |
Zynx |
Mar-18-08 02:50 PM |
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The Wall Street Reacharound. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Mar-18-08 03:51 PM |
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End of the day: we all knew this would happen. It happens every single, cotton-pickin' time |
ozymandius |
Mar-18-08 04:08 PM |
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Right on cue: (guess what?) |
ozymandius |
Mar-18-08 04:10 PM |
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Fear driving people right back into stocks. |
girl gone mad |
Mar-18-08 04:14 PM |
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lots of good links here today |
feminazi |
Mar-18-08 04:36 PM |
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Please consider this: |
ozymandius |
Mar-18-08 05:53 PM |
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Get 'em while they're hot! |
Karenina |
Mar-18-08 08:20 PM |
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Ozy, if this was a "done deal" how can Bear Stearns still be |
UpInArms |
Mar-18-08 08:28 PM |
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pump and dump, mebbe |
wordpix |
Mar-18-08 09:10 PM |
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There is considerable speculation as to legal obstacles that might get thrown up. |
Zynx |
Mar-18-08 09:34 PM |
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Cokehead Kudlow actually kicked ass today. |
Bushwick Bill |
Mar-18-08 07:03 PM |
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Perhaps the dollar is due for a turn around? |
ozone_man |
Mar-18-08 08:31 PM |
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word is there will be an intermeeting rate cut - |
UpInArms |
Mar-18-08 09:02 PM |
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The rates may go down to 0.875% |
ozone_man |
Mar-18-08 09:14 PM |
#142 |