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Tue Feb-19-08 04:36 PM
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| 16. well, I'm just not willing to reward ignorance by accomodating it... |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 04:38 PM by mike_c
...and if folks want to think that "theory" means "half-baked notion" in scientific contexts then the term we use to describe evolution isn't the real problem after all. Basic scientific literacy is the real problem in that case. It is the job of folks teaching science to make the point that "theory" means an explanation well supported by massive amounts of direct evidence, with broad acceptance among workers in the field.
on edit-- of course, sam sarrha makes the point far better than I did in reply #6. The MECHANISMS of evolution are scientific theories. Evolution itself is a directly observable fact.
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| -Science Standards Will Call Evolution 'Scientific Theory' |
sabra |
Feb-19-08 03:50 PM |
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As opposed to religious myth? |
JDPriestly |
Feb-19-08 03:52 PM |
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as opposed to fairy tales |
melody |
Feb-19-08 04:06 PM |
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The ignorant will love that the word "theory" is attached to the standards |
EvolveOrConvolve |
Feb-19-08 03:54 PM |
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This is definitely a case of "be careful what you wish for." Now that the YEC crowd has |
yellowcanine |
Feb-19-08 03:57 PM |
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Yes, it's a scientific theory. Which is NOT the same thing as, say, a crazy person's THEORY that |
impeachdubya |
Feb-19-08 04:00 PM |
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Or that jesus/mithra/zues/____ exists. |
Zhade |
Feb-19-08 10:28 PM |
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as a biologist, I'm perfectly happy with that term.... |
mike_c |
Feb-19-08 04:03 PM |
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But the problem i have with it |
quantass |
Feb-19-08 04:26 PM |
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well, I'm just not willing to reward ignorance by accomodating it... |
mike_c |
Feb-19-08 04:36 PM |
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Yes, I agree that lay people and average joes should be able to set the standards for science. |
quantessd |
Feb-24-08 12:49 AM |
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I mostly agree, but I worry that... |
D23MIURG23 |
Feb-19-08 05:33 PM |
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To remedy that, we should always couple it with Theory of Gravity |
Deny and Shred |
Feb-19-08 06:45 PM |
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Thank you...Evolution is indeed a "scientific theory"... |
rasputin1952 |
Feb-19-08 07:35 PM |
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sorry... Evolution is a FACT, the mechanism that drives it is theory. it is easily proved a fact. |
sam sarrha |
Feb-19-08 04:05 PM |
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Religion on the other hand is easly proven a myth.. |
sam sarrha |
Feb-19-08 04:06 PM |
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i.e., does religion offer testable hypotheses? |
BadgerKid |
Feb-19-08 04:13 PM |
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No, it cant... |
quantass |
Feb-19-08 04:20 PM |
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BadgerKid |
Feb-19-08 04:54 PM |
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yes they do... a lady called Rev Hegie an said she donated $500 and now whenever she goes |
sam sarrha |
Feb-19-08 04:21 PM |
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did she happen to notice |
ldf |
Feb-19-08 06:50 PM |
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Evolution is more than a FACT because... |
quantass |
Feb-19-08 04:17 PM |
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Evolution is a very robust theory |
ginbarn |
Feb-19-08 04:20 PM |
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Precisely |
quantass |
Feb-19-08 04:23 PM |
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Science really needs to drop the word THEORY and replace it with LAW |
quantass |
Feb-19-08 04:13 PM |
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It's hard to watch the genetic mutation of species genes |
ngant17 |
Feb-19-08 04:40 PM |
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No problem...watch evolution in the lab |
BadgerKid |
Feb-19-08 05:35 PM |
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The word THEORY works very well thank you |
The Croquist |
Feb-20-08 07:28 AM |
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No can do, because a LAW in science means something completely different. |
sutz12 |
Feb-24-08 01:24 AM |
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Another difference between a law and a theory |
The Croquist |
Feb-24-08 06:59 AM |
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that these fights still go on in a suppsedly modern society is yet |
Kali |
Feb-19-08 05:13 PM |
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Works for me - gives creationists nothing to complain about |
Prefer |
Feb-19-08 05:29 PM |
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They weren't even allowed to use the word "evolution" before? |
KevinJ |
Feb-19-08 05:44 PM |
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Islamic wingnuts Christian wingnuts, hate, hate, hate and death Satanas is at work! |
pingzing58 |
Feb-19-08 06:49 PM |
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Florida = Laughing stock of the U.S. |
Hissyspit |
Feb-19-08 06:58 PM |
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Recommended reading "Science, Evolution, and Creationism" just published by National Academy of |
jody |
Feb-19-08 09:31 PM |
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Eh, no biggie. Truth in advertising really. It IS a theory. A prevailing theory, but a theory. |
soothsayer |
Feb-20-08 01:59 AM |
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Gravity is a "scientific theory" too. |
baldguy |
Feb-20-08 07:16 AM |
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As long as they don't have to include the "Theory" of creation, or ID, I'm good. nt |
sutz12 |
Feb-24-08 01:27 AM |
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