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Sat Jan-17-04 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #113 |
| 116. That's pretty deceptive for a work entitled... |
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"Snow White And The Madness Of Truth"
-She's not snow white and that's whats offensive, she murdered innocent men, women and children.
If it's not offensive, why did he react that way? This man is a trained diplomat, he doesn't lose his temper easy, maybe it's not so concilatory?
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| -Israeli ambassador to Sweden vandalises Palestinian artwork |
rooboy |
Jan-17-04 06:35 AM |
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what a sad world we live in..... |
Flagg |
Jan-17-04 06:49 AM |
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Yes it is. |
Marianne |
Jan-17-04 11:40 AM |
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Right you are. |
westman |
Jan-17-04 05:51 PM |
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what does the Ambassador think art is supposed to be? |
downstairsparts |
Jan-17-04 06:53 AM |
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I guess it's supposed to be Nazi filth, eh? |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-17-04 11:23 AM |
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Philistine. |
durutti |
Jan-17-04 05:07 PM |
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I believe it's irrelevent. |
westman |
Jan-17-04 05:52 PM |
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so sad... |
Dookus |
Jan-17-04 07:06 AM |
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I reckon he won't miss one picosecond of sleep if he does. |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-17-04 11:25 AM |
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I had to look at his face, to understand what kind of person he is |
JudiLyn |
Jan-17-04 07:18 AM |
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Do you recognize "evil" when you see it? |
loudnclear |
Jan-17-04 09:33 AM |
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You can recognize character, or the total absense of character. |
JudiLyn |
Jan-17-04 09:48 AM |
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Uh huh. |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-17-04 11:27 AM |
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Really? Is it the jaw line? Beady eyes? ... |
Feminist_man |
Jan-17-04 02:04 PM |
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Oh yes. |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-17-04 11:26 AM |
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Standing up |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 11:13 AM |
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I agree... |
JoeNormal |
Jan-17-04 11:31 AM |
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I think the problem is that this person fails to recognize there |
Marianne |
Jan-17-04 11:44 AM |
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right on |
donsu |
Jan-17-04 11:51 AM |
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Hear! Hear! Maybe he'd like to visit the Smithsonian and see if he |
mbperrin |
Jan-17-04 11:54 AM |
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In this case it's the artist who's a fascist. |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-17-04 12:12 PM |
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as was Picasso? Take a look at his Guernica |
Marianne |
Jan-17-04 12:58 PM |
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Here's my expert criticism of the two works in your post: |
westman |
Jan-17-04 05:59 PM |
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Picasso condemned slaughter. The Palestinian "artist" glorifies it. |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-17-04 06:51 PM |
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The artist is Israeli. nt |
Alenne |
Jan-17-04 06:59 PM |
#152 |
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Except he is not Palestinian he was born in Tel Aviv... |
ezmojason |
Jan-17-04 07:03 PM |
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I see your point, to a point |
JoeNormal |
Jan-17-04 01:15 PM |
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No |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 01:15 PM |
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Jews don't own the right to trample the rights of others |
SemperEadem |
Jan-17-04 03:02 PM |
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Fighting words |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 03:04 PM |
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The problem is a term |
Bread and Roses |
Jan-17-04 12:49 PM |
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you're standing up for this jerk?? |
seekthetruth |
Jan-17-04 12:46 PM |
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The jerk was the "artist" |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 01:15 PM |
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your opinion only! |
seekthetruth |
Jan-17-04 04:49 PM |
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A sane perspective, at last! |
westman |
Jan-17-04 05:54 PM |
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Excuse me, what was the "wrong" he was standing up to? |
loudnclear |
Jan-17-04 01:27 PM |
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you can stand up to wrongs without destroying property |
SemperEadem |
Jan-17-04 02:59 PM |
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Amen! |
Sapphocrat |
Jan-17-04 03:59 PM |
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Other than you... |
Cassandra |
Jan-17-04 06:39 PM |
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So you denounce the vandalism |
westman |
Jan-17-04 05:57 PM |
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Hmm... I wonder... |
durutti |
Jan-17-04 05:06 PM |
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I'm not sure ambassador is the right job for this guy |
Cocoa |
Jan-17-04 11:51 AM |
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I think he shows great promise... |
Fozzledick |
Jan-17-04 01:19 PM |
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Well, I really don't know what to say about this. |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-17-04 12:00 PM |
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"I don't like this opinion, so I will SMASH it." What a dumbass |
jpgray |
Jan-17-04 12:02 PM |
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Even artists. |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-17-04 12:11 PM |
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When the artist demolishes an IDF memorial, then talk to me |
jpgray |
Jan-17-04 12:23 PM |
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Breaking an agreement between |
Bread and Roses |
Jan-17-04 12:28 PM |
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I'm protesting the destruction of the art, not advocating its subject (nt) |
jpgray |
Jan-17-04 12:41 PM |
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Answer to all of your questions |
Axel |
Jan-17-04 07:03 PM |
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Unfortunately, this article |
Bread and Roses |
Jan-17-04 12:25 PM |
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There was still no reason to physcially destroy the piece |
jpgray |
Jan-17-04 12:29 PM |
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Personally |
MikeGalos |
Jan-17-04 03:25 PM |
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First-rate review. I give it two thumbs up. |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-17-04 06:55 PM |
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Unfortunately this may be the wrong forum ... |
Cookiedemocrat |
Jan-17-04 04:06 PM |
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Anti-Occupation is not anti-Israel |
Axel |
Jan-17-04 07:10 PM |
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Israel is the best judge of the image it wishes to present to the world |
DuctapeFatwa |
Jan-17-04 05:14 PM |
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Back Story: |
Bread and Roses |
Jan-17-04 12:41 PM |
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and how does smashing the art help? |
Cocoa |
Jan-17-04 12:56 PM |
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Yes. Absolutely. |
Bread and Roses |
Jan-17-04 12:59 PM |
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turniing the aggressor into the victim |
Cocoa |
Jan-17-04 01:05 PM |
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uh huh |
Bread and Roses |
Jan-17-04 01:11 PM |
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what does that mean? |
Cocoa |
Jan-17-04 01:24 PM |
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Not very diplomatic, eh? |
monobrau |
Jan-17-04 01:32 PM |
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Does that mean |
Malikshah |
Jan-17-04 03:44 PM |
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Dror Feiler, the one artist named, is Jewish and a former Israeli |
pschoeb |
Jan-17-04 01:12 PM |
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I agree, pschoeb |
RememberTheCoup |
Jan-17-04 01:48 PM |
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weird to see DUers cheer the destruction of art |
thebigidea |
Jan-17-04 01:30 PM |
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Not "art" |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 01:33 PM |
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Good idea, Muddle |
dai |
Jan-17-04 01:42 PM |
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Art |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 01:49 PM |
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Images created by "the scum of the earth" must be destroyed? |
ezmojason |
Jan-17-04 01:56 PM |
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It wasn't an image CREATED by the scum of the earth |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 03:06 PM |
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Have you seen it? |
ezmojason |
Jan-17-04 03:25 PM |
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The "artwork" |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 03:41 PM |
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"murdered 19 innocent civilians" - This Is Glorification? |
Crisco |
Jan-17-04 05:34 PM |
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Tragedy? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 05:48 PM |
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I'll Ask Again |
Crisco |
Jan-17-04 05:50 PM |
#139 |
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"Snow White And The Madness Of Truth" |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 05:55 PM |
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Lot More Going on There Than a Picture |
Crisco |
Jan-17-04 05:59 PM |
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He knows what it meant with out... |
ezmojason |
Jan-17-04 06:07 PM |
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I have seen it |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 07:25 PM |
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Someone please make me... |
dai |
Jan-17-04 01:56 PM |
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Not censorship |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 03:08 PM |
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and the palestinians haven't seen this as well? |
seekthetruth |
Jan-17-04 04:52 PM |
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Wrong. |
RememberTheCoup |
Jan-17-04 02:00 PM |
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If someone was hurt... |
dai |
Jan-17-04 02:01 PM |
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Representing Israel |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 03:09 PM |
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hmmm, I wonder which country destroyed art in the 1930s... |
thebigidea |
Jan-17-04 03:11 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-17-04 03:17 PM |
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Six million lives later |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 03:19 PM |
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Irony is not "out the window" |
dai |
Jan-17-04 03:47 PM |
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I love irony |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 04:00 PM |
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is the man a deranged, purple-assed baboon? |
thebigidea |
Jan-17-04 03:07 PM |
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A letter? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 03:10 PM |
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remind me never to invite you to a gallery show |
thebigidea |
Jan-17-04 03:12 PM |
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You compare the mundane with the ridiculous |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 03:21 PM |
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even if the artist were black? you'd wreck his art even if you missed |
thebigidea |
Jan-17-04 03:22 PM |
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I don't know how I would react |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 03:35 PM |
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Books into the fire now. |
ezmojason |
Jan-17-04 01:53 PM |
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When I saw... |
dai |
Jan-17-04 02:00 PM |
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In this particular case... |
ezmojason |
Jan-17-04 02:04 PM |
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that's cause he's pimping MLK's picture |
SemperEadem |
Jan-17-04 03:09 PM |
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Dr. King |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 03:14 PM |
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King was right there on the front lines: in the art galleries |
thebigidea |
Jan-17-04 03:16 PM |
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You must be having fun |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 03:38 PM |
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The ambassador did not say "no". |
RememberTheCoup |
Jan-17-04 03:48 PM |
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And I am not Dr. King |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 03:52 PM |
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Why can't the artist... |
dai |
Jan-17-04 03:53 PM |
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Could have |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 04:01 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-17-04 05:04 PM |
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Dr. King |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 07:26 PM |
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let me know when they appoint you Guy Who Defines All Art for EVERYBODY |
thebigidea |
Jan-17-04 03:05 PM |
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What is more vile? |
Axel |
Jan-17-04 07:21 PM |
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You sound like George W. Bush |
Democat |
Jan-17-04 07:36 PM |
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Weird is not the word. |
RememberTheCoup |
Jan-17-04 01:46 PM |
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below: "Snow White and the Madness of Truth" on wet "blood"going to heaven |
papau |
Jan-17-04 04:31 PM |
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Right Or Wrong |
voted4wellstone |
Jan-17-04 03:09 PM |
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I'd hate to think that about all Israelis (nt) |
RememberTheCoup |
Jan-17-04 03:43 PM |
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IF the "diplomat" also |
savistocate |
Jan-17-04 04:03 PM |
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IF the 'diplomat' were |
savistocate |
Jan-17-04 04:17 PM |
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You might want to change |
Bread and Roses |
Jan-17-04 03:49 PM |
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Not having seen the artwork, either before or after, |
Buns_of_Fire |
Jan-17-04 03:50 PM |
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Easy way out: |
Bread and Roses |
Jan-17-04 03:57 PM |
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Actually, I DID read the articles |
Buns_of_Fire |
Jan-17-04 04:11 PM |
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You can see it here: |
dai |
Jan-17-04 04:00 PM |
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cute |
Bread and Roses |
Jan-17-04 04:04 PM |
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I wrote to this asshole once. |
Zhade |
Jan-17-04 03:55 PM |
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Surely you are familiar |
Bread and Roses |
Jan-17-04 04:00 PM |
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Supporters of Israel advocate violent protest. There's a headline for you |
jpgray |
Jan-17-04 03:58 PM |
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I believe we were providing |
Bread and Roses |
Jan-17-04 04:02 PM |
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You are speaking to yourself--I never justified suicide bombing |
jpgray |
Jan-17-04 04:05 PM |
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Or this headline |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 04:02 PM |
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And you have just done 2 things with that post: |
Bread and Roses |
Jan-17-04 04:06 PM |
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This has nothing to do with Israeli or Palestinian |
jpgray |
Jan-17-04 04:10 PM |
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Does that mean I can glorify the murder of MLK in downtown Atlanta? |
cynicalSOB1 |
Jan-17-04 04:12 PM |
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You can't do that in Atlanta |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 04:19 PM |
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Exactly, because in their minds two wrongs make a right. |
cynicalSOB1 |
Jan-17-04 04:22 PM |
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Huh? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 04:12 PM |
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Okay. Show me which remarks of mine are anti-Semitic |
jpgray |
Jan-17-04 04:26 PM |
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The silence is deafening. (nt) |
jpgray |
Jan-17-04 05:00 PM |
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Not you |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 05:01 PM |
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If it was, he STILL should not have destroyed it |
jpgray |
Jan-17-04 05:06 PM |
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The rationalizaton |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 05:10 PM |
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I only assume that for the sake of argument |
jpgray |
Jan-17-04 05:16 PM |
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The "damn display" better be a warning |
Terwilliger |
Jan-17-04 05:06 PM |
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? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Jan-17-04 05:11 PM |
#127 |
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unheeded |
Terwilliger |
Jan-17-04 05:33 PM |
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Palestinians are Semites |
Axel |
Jan-17-04 07:36 PM |
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My feeling is that though his actions weren't diplomatic... |
cynicalSOB1 |
Jan-17-04 04:04 PM |
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Okay, let's try it again: DAI posted the link: |
mbperrin |
Jan-17-04 04:49 PM |
#113 |
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That's pretty deceptive for a work entitled... |
cynicalSOB1 |
Jan-17-04 04:55 PM |
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Trained where? As what? Evidence of his even temper? |
mbperrin |
Jan-17-04 05:04 PM |
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or paintings of lions and tigers on velvet. |
Marianne |
Jan-17-04 05:49 PM |
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That's just it, she looked like a Snow White on the outside, |
Lars39 |
Jan-17-04 05:06 PM |
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lol, I thought you were someone else... |
dai |
Jan-17-04 05:15 PM |
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Behold, the power of art |
realpolitik |
Jan-17-04 05:12 PM |
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Yawn. Total non-issue involving people of zero importance. |
Character Assassin |
Jan-17-04 05:24 PM |
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It is not at all clear that this art meant what he thought it meant. |
ezmojason |
Jan-17-04 05:26 PM |
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Any country who has diplomatic relations with Israel of US does so |
DuctapeFatwa |
Jan-17-04 05:36 PM |
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For who is working this Zvi Mazel anyway? |
TrueStory |
Jan-17-04 05:56 PM |
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Zvi Mazel RAWWWWWWWWWWWWWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-17-04 07:18 PM |
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No longer LBN... locking |
Moderator |
Jan-17-04 07:39 PM |
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