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97. That's right. They use guilty by association even where there is none.
It's too bad to see us doing the same. :shrug:
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  -Cindy Sheehan in Egypt for Islamists BobbyVan  Feb-13-08 07:30 PM   #0 
  - Sort of strange.  closeupready   Feb-13-08 07:33 PM   #1 
  - Well, she's running for congress in San Francisco  CreekDog   Feb-13-08 07:35 PM   #3 
  - Why? Are we so limited that we can't chew gum and walk?  sfexpat2000   Feb-13-08 11:53 PM   #13 
  - Good point. I guess what I was trying to say was  closeupready   Feb-14-08 09:44 AM   #35 
  - It's a human rights issue  proud2Blib   Feb-14-08 09:04 PM   #99 
  - Reminds me of Dennis Kucinich using campaign funds to visit Syria  Freddie Stubbs   Feb-14-08 10:51 AM   #45 
  - For whom?  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 11:12 AM   #47 
  - Given the limited results we've seen in the last seven years  Telly Savalas   Feb-17-08 12:20 AM   #173 
  - Nah! Your Empire's dead!  plasticsundance   Feb-14-08 12:50 PM   #54 
  - Rome also exterminated animal species, and killed Christians for fun and entertainment.  closeupready   Feb-14-08 03:38 PM   #65 
  - Actually  Popol Vuh   Feb-15-08 03:04 PM   #147 
     - Good points. I also support human rights wherever there are humans.  closeupready   Feb-15-08 03:15 PM   #152 
  - The Sumerians had plumbing nt  Jed Dilligan   Feb-14-08 08:37 PM   #91 
  - Ignorance. Get Bent. n/t  India3   Feb-15-08 08:50 AM   #113 
  - She's the Lone Ranger, fighting injustice wherever it may be.  zonkers   Feb-14-08 04:15 PM   #75 
  - Ed Schultz commented yesterday that Cindy was in Jail,  jedr   Feb-13-08 07:35 PM   #2 
  - Boy, has she got balls!  Joanne98   Feb-13-08 07:36 PM   #4 
  - This is idiotic  BobbyVan   Feb-13-08 07:42 PM   #5 
  - The Brotherhood Is NOT on the terrorism watch list. (n/t)  wellst0nev0ter   Feb-13-08 09:12 PM   #8 
  - They are the opposition political party in Egypt and are hence  harun   Feb-13-08 09:57 PM   #11 
     - SHE HAS LOST IT N/T  pegleg   Feb-14-08 03:29 PM   #64 
     - I agree that Mubarak is a dictator and is nasty to this group because they oppose him...  LeftishBrit   Feb-14-08 05:00 PM   #83 
        - She's been all over. But look at the frame of this story.  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 08:30 PM   #89 
  - agreed....  unkachuck   Feb-13-08 09:33 PM   #9 
     - "what we need is a new political party full of Cindy's to turn this country around"  India3   Feb-14-08 09:17 AM   #32 
        - .  BobbyVan   Feb-19-08 11:40 AM   #187 
  - the muslim brotherhood? she`s batshit crazy  madrchsod   Feb-13-08 07:58 PM   #6 
  - Yep. You have to be crazy these days  sfexpat2000   Feb-13-08 11:55 PM   #14 
  - batshit crazy? every time I hear/read those words I picture a smug piece of shit like hannity..  khaos   Feb-14-08 04:29 PM   #77 
  - Human Rights!! my god... a politician can't win on a platform of human rights!  Tom Joad   Feb-17-08 12:39 PM   #176 
  - hate to say this  dwickham   Feb-13-08 08:02 PM   #7 
  - Who are "these people"?  The Stranger   Feb-14-08 09:28 AM   #33 
  - Wouldn't the questions be...  LanternWaste   Feb-15-08 02:57 PM   #145 
     - Sorry, but I'm not losing any sleep over the Muslim Brotherhood  BobbyVan   Feb-15-08 03:05 PM   #148 
        - Most likely you won't...  LanternWaste   Feb-15-08 03:20 PM   #154 
           - If Cindy didn't speak out against the Muslim Brotherhood's views, she wasted her trip  BobbyVan   Feb-15-08 03:23 PM   #155 
              - I don't know, so I certainly won't make the claim.  LanternWaste   Feb-15-08 03:28 PM   #156 
  - What a dipshit.  liberalsoldier5   Feb-13-08 09:34 PM   #10 
  - Not so fast  proud2Blib   Feb-14-08 09:09 PM   #101 
  - It's sad. I used to really support Cindy. Now, I just don't understand.  Xenotime   Feb-13-08 11:22 PM   #12 
  - Shame on these sneering DU posters!  High Plains   Feb-13-08 11:56 PM   #15 
  - is the Moslem Brotherhood some great democratic movement for Egypt  dwickham   Feb-14-08 01:04 AM   #16 
  - They're just a bunch of theocrats who want to impose strict Islamic law  barb162   Feb-14-08 09:41 AM   #34 
  - I call BS  Malikshah   Feb-14-08 11:15 AM   #49 
  - Bigotry of Islam  fascisthunter   Feb-14-08 03:53 PM   #67 
  - BS  barb162   Feb-15-08 02:55 PM   #144 
  - Do you support a Islamic Caliphate?  Phx_Dem   Feb-15-08 09:04 AM   #116 
  - There is more to MB than this offshoot.  Malikshah   Feb-15-08 05:00 PM   #161 
     - From the official MB website  Phx_Dem   Feb-15-08 06:56 PM   #165 
  - Oh, go peddle your BS somewhere else or prove it here  barb162   Feb-15-08 02:39 PM   #142 
     - Great. Wikipedia.  Malikshah   Feb-15-08 04:58 PM   #160 
        - Where's your links proving MB is a charity -ONLY group?  barb162   Feb-16-08 10:52 PM   #171 
  - I couldn't agree with you more. What is sad is she used to be the symbol for us getting out of Iraq  still_one   Feb-14-08 11:54 AM   #53 
  - I think she has become a really sad woman who is just being used  barb162   Feb-15-08 02:52 PM   #143 
  - Boy, all the knee-jerk reactions here. Look below the surface and consider the big picture  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-15-08 12:31 PM   #137 
     - You're missing the point. What is she doing in Egypt?  barb162   Feb-15-08 02:32 PM   #141 
        - I don't know--maybe she has an Egyptian friend who has a relative involved or something  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-15-08 03:30 PM   #157 
  - Does it Have to Be, dwickham.  fascisthunter   Feb-14-08 03:55 PM   #68 
     - think of it this way  dwickham   Feb-14-08 11:10 PM   #104 
  - ummm, they support suicide bombings against Israel  polticalpout   Feb-14-08 01:09 AM   #17 
  - Their political positions justify a denial of justice?  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 01:21 AM   #18 
  - I question why she is choosing this battle  polticalpout   Feb-14-08 01:45 AM   #19 
  - People often insult what they cannot understand. That's unsurprising. n/t  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 10:12 AM   #37 
  - does that include the shareholders of ExxonMobil?  northzax   Feb-14-08 08:32 AM   #26 
  - Did you read my post? It doesn't sound like it!  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 10:13 AM   #38 
  - Ah, Northzax, you need some old-fashioned CIA training to be able to write  Peace Patriot   Feb-15-08 12:24 PM   #136 
  - Obviously, Some Here Want you and I to Hate them as Well  fascisthunter   Feb-14-08 08:39 AM   #29 
  - Cindy scares the hell out of people.  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 10:15 AM   #39 
     - She Will Go Down in History as a Very Influential Peace Activist  fascisthunter   Feb-14-08 03:28 PM   #63 
  - "even people I condemn deserve justice"  bean fidhleir   Feb-14-08 10:37 AM   #42 
  - That is probably a plus for some.  Behind the Aegis   Feb-14-08 02:36 AM   #20 
     - Maybe she thinks she's running for a congressional district in Egypt?  barb162   Feb-14-08 09:45 AM   #36 
  - the muslim brotherhood are terrorist thugs.  PittPoliSci   Feb-14-08 03:42 AM   #21 
  - The US supports terrorist thugs that drop a million cluster bombs on  Tom Joad   Feb-17-08 12:46 PM   #177 
  - Because the People Jumpin on Her  fascisthunter   Feb-14-08 08:36 AM   #27 
  - Care to explain why she jumped on DU and refuted the Democratic Party?  barb162   Feb-15-08 03:02 PM   #146 
  - i think because we are dealing with rightwingers here, who support  Tom Joad   Feb-17-08 12:47 PM   #178 
  - Wow defending the Muslim Brotherhood............  Marrah_G   Feb-15-08 11:31 AM   #134 
  - This doesn't help you, Cindy  boricua79   Feb-14-08 05:11 AM   #22 
  - Hey....  badgervan   Feb-14-08 06:02 AM   #23 
     - Cindy Sheehan is not a Democrat. n/t  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 10:17 AM   #40 
        - You Are Right  badgervan   Feb-14-08 08:38 PM   #92 
           - That's right. They use guilty by association even where there is none.  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 09:00 PM   #97 
  - She's pretty much always been batshit crazy  eilen   Feb-14-08 07:58 AM   #24 
  - Calling someone you disagree with "crazy" is not an argument. n/t  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 10:19 AM   #41 
  - I'm not making an argument, I'm just stating an observation  eilen   Feb-15-08 06:46 AM   #108 
     - And now you're comparing her to a religious fanatic?  sfexpat2000   Feb-15-08 09:44 AM   #121 
        - Well, she is pretty harsh on anyone not ideologically pure.  eilen   Feb-15-08 08:19 PM   #167 
           - Really? Reread this thread and get back to me about harsh. n/t  sfexpat2000   Feb-16-08 01:36 PM   #168 
  - I'd say "passionate" rather than 'crazy'  LanternWaste   Feb-15-08 03:09 PM   #149 
  - It's like supporting the Klan in Skokie  BobbyVan   Feb-14-08 08:20 AM   #25 
  - Actually Your Hatred of Her is Interesting  fascisthunter   Feb-14-08 08:40 AM   #30 
  - Wow, so I want to BOMB them now???  BobbyVan   Feb-14-08 10:40 AM   #43 
  - Why Not... You Interpret Her Actions in the Same Manner  fascisthunter   Feb-14-08 03:51 PM   #66 
     - Read the other comments - plenty of others agree with me on this one.  BobbyVan   Feb-14-08 04:01 PM   #69 
        - I Know WHo Those Other Posters are... I'm Not Impressed  fascisthunter   Feb-14-08 04:04 PM   #71 
           - Interesting name, "Fascisthunter"  BobbyVan   Feb-14-08 04:11 PM   #73 
              - yeah... can't win the argument so let's talk aboout names  fascisthunter   Feb-14-08 04:14 PM   #74 
              - No problem with Islam. Just anti-semites and misogynists.  BobbyVan   Feb-14-08 04:21 PM   #76 
                 - "Cindy Sheehan in Egypt for Islamists".... surrrrre  fascisthunter   Feb-14-08 08:58 PM   #95 
                    - Uh, that was the AP headline. I took it down word for word.  BobbyVan   Feb-15-08 08:11 AM   #109 
              - Therefore any nation, culture or organization  LanternWaste   Feb-15-08 03:12 PM   #150 
  - That's quite the strawman (n/t)  leftynyc   Feb-15-08 09:01 AM   #115 
  - maybe she has a better understanding of them than you do  khaos   Feb-14-08 04:34 PM   #79 
     - Maybe you should read more about the Muslim Brotherhood  BobbyVan   Feb-14-08 04:39 PM   #80 
        - Those aren't facts.. let me know what you are reading so I can avoid it. n/t  khaos   Feb-14-08 05:01 PM   #84 
        - They are most certainly influenced by Wahabism and they do have some ties to al Qaeda.  pegleg   Feb-14-08 07:24 PM   #85 
           - "some ties to al Qaeda" what.. one of OBLs #2 is a cousin?  khaos   Feb-15-08 11:25 AM   #132 
           - Specifics, please?  LanternWaste   Feb-15-08 03:14 PM   #151 
              - Here's for starters  pegleg   Feb-15-08 05:14 PM   #162 
                 - I can assume the answer is that all your information came from the internets?  LanternWaste   Feb-17-08 02:39 PM   #179 
                    - PBS did a documentary about it not too long ago.  pegleg   Feb-18-08 12:14 AM   #184 
        - This question has been answered on this thread repeatedly.  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 08:20 PM   #87 
  - An injury to one is an injury to all  bean fidhleir   Feb-14-08 08:39 AM   #28 
  - .  fascisthunter   Feb-14-08 08:41 AM   #31 
  - Yo! Cindy! Check out your own country.  tuckessee   Feb-14-08 10:48 AM   #44 
  - Next thing, someone is going to tell her to get back in the kitchen. n/t  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 11:10 AM   #46 
  - You're the first one to bring up her sex.  tuckessee   Feb-14-08 11:29 AM   #50 
     - Nope. The attitude is right there and all over this thread.  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 11:40 AM   #52 
  - Neither repression nor salvation  LanternWaste   Feb-15-08 03:16 PM   #153 
  - thank you Cindy for working for women where ever they are in the world  donsu   Feb-14-08 11:13 AM   #48 
  - Yes, the Muslim Brotherhood is very supportive of women's rights. n/t  India3   Feb-14-08 12:52 PM   #55 
  - exactly  boricua79   Feb-15-08 09:50 AM   #123 
  - Working for women?????  leftynyc   Feb-15-08 09:05 AM   #117 
  - Wow supporting a bunch of theocrats...  rinsd   Feb-14-08 11:34 AM   #51 
  - It's Called Supporting Human Rights Regardless of Who They Are  fascisthunter   Feb-14-08 04:01 PM   #70 
  - Womens rights are human rights  leftynyc   Feb-15-08 09:06 AM   #118 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-15-08 09:52 AM   #124 
  - If she wanted to support theocrats she could have done that here!  BobbyVan   Feb-14-08 04:49 PM   #82 
  - I've lived in Egypt for 3 years. Yes, they ARE terrorists.  onager   Feb-14-08 01:19 PM   #56 
  - There is a difference between defending these people  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 01:28 PM   #57 
     - But Cindy's not a defense attorney  BobbyVan   Feb-14-08 02:24 PM   #58 
        - No, Cindy is not a defense attorney. She is simply a decent person  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 02:30 PM   #59 
           - Cozying up to woman-oppressing holocaust deniers isn't what I'd call decent n/t  BobbyVan   Feb-14-08 03:19 PM   #62 
              - It sounds like you yourself don't understand the story you posted.  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 08:14 PM   #86 
                 - Would you be upset if she marched with the Klan? Or Operation Rescue?  BobbyVan   Feb-15-08 08:18 AM   #110 
                    - I can't tell you how silly it is for you to accuse Sheehan  sfexpat2000   Feb-15-08 09:35 AM   #120 
                       - We're never going to agree on this, so why keep going back and forth?  BobbyVan   Feb-15-08 09:46 AM   #122 
                       - That is your take away question from this thread, isnt it? n/t  sfexpat2000   Feb-15-08 10:09 AM   #128 
                          - It's a good one. The Muslim Brotherhood doesn't deserve Cindy Sheehan.  BobbyVan   Feb-15-08 11:19 AM   #130 
                             - May none of us be relegated to what we deserve. n/t  sfexpat2000   Feb-15-08 11:25 AM   #131 
                       - Which makes it all the stranger she is kissing up to a group  barb162   Feb-16-08 11:01 PM   #172 
                          - What is it about international human rights that is unclear to you? n/t  sfexpat2000   Feb-17-08 03:04 PM   #180 
  - The women of Egypt thank you Cindy  GeniusLib   Feb-14-08 02:31 PM   #60 
  - Or, due process in a civil court as per international law  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 02:35 PM   #61 
  - bingo.  PittPoliSci   Feb-15-08 12:35 AM   #107 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-15-08 09:53 AM   #125 
  - we hear from another supporter of military rule. thanks for the input  Tom Joad   Feb-17-08 12:38 PM   #175 
  - Thank You Cindy for Penetrating through the Islamophobia  fascisthunter   Feb-14-08 04:09 PM   #72 
  - completely insane.  PittPoliSci   Feb-15-08 12:35 AM   #106 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-15-08 09:54 AM   #126 
     - Good for you for saying that  BobbyVan   Feb-15-08 10:02 AM   #127 
  - good for her  khaos   Feb-14-08 04:31 PM   #78 
  - Here is the creed of the Muslim Brotherhood:  pegleg   Feb-14-08 04:47 PM   #81 
  - What does the creed have to do with seeking due process?  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 08:22 PM   #88 
  - Due process in Sharia law is a whole different animal than  pegleg   Feb-15-08 08:34 AM   #112 
  - We are talking about international law, not Sharia.  sfexpat2000   Feb-15-08 09:27 AM   #119 
     - No, what I am saying is is that the Muslim Brotherhood  pegleg   Feb-15-08 04:20 PM   #158 
        - And you miss the point that any constituency in any nation  sfexpat2000   Feb-15-08 06:50 PM   #164 
           - Disagree entirely.  pegleg   Feb-15-08 07:57 PM   #166 
              - Do you also believe our detainees at Gitmo has no right  sfexpat2000   Feb-16-08 01:40 PM   #169 
                 - Gitmo involved the wrongs committed by our own govermment.  pegleg   Feb-18-08 12:17 AM   #185 
  - Gotta say I just don't get you on this one.....  Marrah_G   Feb-15-08 11:34 AM   #135 
  - Of all the people in the world who are not getting due process  goodgd_yall   Feb-17-08 03:27 PM   #181 
  - Yep. I don't get the support here.  Xithras   Feb-14-08 08:35 PM   #90 
     - Can you point to the text where she says she supports their politics?  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 08:39 PM   #93 
        - These Posters are Intentionally Conflating Support for Human Rights and Politics  fascisthunter   Feb-14-08 08:56 PM   #94 
           - Or, they are taking this obvious hit piece and running with it.  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 08:59 PM   #96 
              - What Cindy is Doing is She is Breaking Through a Wall  fascisthunter   Feb-14-08 09:04 PM   #98 
                 - I've learned that there are a lot of people who really don't get altruism.  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 09:09 PM   #100 
                    - She's an Amazing Human Being  fascisthunter   Feb-14-08 09:13 PM   #102 
                       - I have to disagree about that other hand.  sfexpat2000   Feb-14-08 09:18 PM   #103 
  - She's right, but  Saint Etienne17   Feb-14-08 11:48 PM   #105 
  - Cindy has finally learned that not enough Americans will not stand up for peace...  Orsino   Feb-15-08 08:29 AM   #111 
  - Yes. The Muslim Brotherhood only wants peace. Seriesly.  India3   Feb-15-08 09:00 AM   #114 
  - If Sheehan wants to help in the ME  Phx_Dem   Feb-15-08 10:17 AM   #129 
  - This is what I don't understand  goodgd_yall   Feb-17-08 03:31 PM   #182 
  - Cindy has completely jumped the shark here.  Marrah_G   Feb-15-08 11:28 AM   #133 
  - Casey would be appalled.  BobbyVan   Feb-15-08 12:37 PM   #138 
  - Casey might be appalled that his mother has to deal with  sfexpat2000   Feb-15-08 02:14 PM   #139 
  - Check out what this Egyptian blogger has to say  Phx_Dem   Feb-15-08 04:33 PM   #159 
     - 'Way to spread hate and misinformation.  sfexpat2000   Feb-15-08 06:46 PM   #163 
  - Yea, like you'd know n/t  DaDooRonRon   Feb-15-08 02:28 PM   #140 
  - For all you knee-jerk types, here's an explanation of the appeal of radical Islam in Egypt  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-16-08 07:23 PM   #170 
  - The article was more about a society turning religiously conservative  goodgd_yall   Feb-17-08 03:43 PM   #183 
  - Seems like Cindy Sheehan is concerned about human rights for all.  Tom Joad   Feb-17-08 12:37 PM   #174 
  - I'm glad I renounced this woman long ago  ButterflyBlood   Feb-18-08 07:54 PM   #186 

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