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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 01:20 PM
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85. Plenty of time for a caucus or primary
There is plenty of time for a new caucus or primary in each state. It was not the voter's fault that the rules were violated. In Florida, it was the GOP controlled legislature that pushed the early primary, not most of the Dems.

Let's have an even playing field. If the legislatures won't approve a new primary, then the state party can hold a caucus on its own.

Howard Dean said the actual decision on seating the existing delegates will be made by a credentials committee. It sounded like that committee would not meet until the convention started. That is an option - wait until there is a winner, and then let the existing delegations be seated.
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  -Hillary: FL and MI should be heard shadowrider  Feb-09-08 03:16 PM   #0 
  - Then they need to have new elections....  ingac70   Feb-09-08 03:17 PM   #1 
  - I agree.  dbonds   Feb-09-08 03:59 PM   #14 
  - then have another caucus/ primary, we have til august.  fenriswolf   Feb-09-08 03:17 PM   #2 
  - What a principled stand!  IrishBloodEngHeart   Feb-09-08 03:18 PM   #3 
  - Exactly. This is a huge reason I cannot stand her.  Oregonian   Feb-10-08 10:40 AM   #67 
     - you think it's fair that the voters in MI and FL  paulk   Feb-10-08 05:35 PM   #73 
     - Or course it's not fair. But it's not fair to change the rules and go back on your promise  Oregonian   Feb-10-08 08:01 PM   #75 
        - as for the rules - this is a Presidential election  paulk   Feb-10-08 08:12 PM   #77 
           - Those people don't have to have a say, period.  Lance_Boyle   Feb-11-08 10:44 AM   #78 
              - thanks for support Democratic principles and ideals  DrDan   Feb-11-08 04:00 PM   #88 
     - Yep always about the I instead of the We with her (n/t)  harun   Feb-11-08 12:52 PM   #82 
     - Hillary Campaign is Circling the Drain  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-11-08 01:00 PM   #83 
  - get over it.  thunder rising   Feb-09-08 03:18 PM   #4 
  - No Fair Cheating  badgervan   Feb-09-08 05:50 PM   #35 
     - If she insists on counting FL and MI delegates, her popularity will only nosedive.  closeupready   Feb-11-08 07:35 PM   #89 
     - She won't care, as long as she gets the delegates.  razorman   Feb-13-08 11:32 AM   #91 
  - Let them do a caucus in April.  CanonRay   Feb-09-08 03:20 PM   #5 
  - It costs the States a LOT to run an election -- who will pay? NT.  JMDEM   Feb-09-08 04:08 PM   #15 
     - Maybe Hillary will loan them the money  marshall   Feb-10-08 08:46 AM   #64 
     - In our paper: the state party would pay for the caucus, not the state.  knitter4democracy   Feb-10-08 05:24 PM   #71 
  - Let them do a caucus in April.  CanonRay   Feb-09-08 03:20 PM   #6 
  - Uh, those races are over. It's Washington and Louisiana today.  bluestateguy   Feb-09-08 03:22 PM   #7 
  - lol  RUMMYisFROSTED   Feb-09-08 04:13 PM   # 
  - Had they brokered a deal before their primaries ...  BearSquirrel2   Feb-09-08 05:36 PM   #33 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-09-08 10:32 PM   #48 
  - She may be making a big mistake.  PATRICK   Feb-09-08 03:25 PM   #8 
  - If she fights this without a redo of those primaries, she will lose the general election  still_one   Feb-09-08 05:01 PM   #26 
     - Agreed. This would be the deal breaker on my vote.  faygokid   Feb-09-08 06:14 PM   #38 
     - This is one scenario that would get this Dem to sit out  RamboLiberal   Feb-10-08 02:06 AM   #58 
  - she's against Caucuses, she wants to keep the flawed delegations as they are  JackORoses   Feb-09-08 03:26 PM   #9 
  - Pfft...  Spider Jerusalem   Feb-09-08 03:34 PM   #10 
  - No surprise, more of the same.  faygokid   Feb-09-08 03:46 PM   #11 
  - Yeah I'd call that winning the battle and losing the war  RamboLiberal   Feb-10-08 02:10 AM   #59 
  - I have one thing to say to Hillary  Malva Zebrina   Feb-09-08 03:56 PM   #12 
  - She won the POPULAR VOTE  CatnHat   Feb-09-08 04:14 PM   #18 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-09-08 04:38 PM   #21 
  - what are you talking about? The DNC told the candidates NOT to run in MI and FL  still_one   Feb-09-08 05:05 PM   #27 
  - I sincerely doubt there will be a "do-over"  shadowrider   Feb-09-08 05:28 PM   #30 
     - Will if she wins the nomination because of that tactic, I predict Obama supporters  still_one   Feb-09-08 10:17 PM   #46 
  - I think she was OK with not counting FL and MI when the decision was made?  pinkpops   Feb-09-08 06:02 PM   #37 
  - Then if she wins either without having MI and FL delegates seated  still_one   Feb-09-08 10:21 PM   #47 
  - Actually Mr O has voted to the left of Ms H in the  pokercat999   Feb-10-08 12:31 PM   #68 
  - Obama's name was not on the ballot in Michigan -n/t  coalition_unwilling   Feb-11-08 11:41 AM   #79 
  - my my my....  ObamaJacksome   Feb-09-08 10:46 PM   #50 
  - Hold another caucus or primary. Problem solved.  Alexander   Feb-09-08 03:57 PM   #13 
  - She voted for the war in Iraq  Malva Zebrina   Feb-09-08 04:44 PM   #22 
     - this reply was meant for catnhat  Malva Zebrina   Feb-09-08 04:50 PM   #23 
        - No worries. I agree completely with everything you said.  Alexander   Feb-09-08 05:33 PM   #32 
  - Obama would have won Michigan, and Hillary takes Florida.  Carrieyazel   Feb-09-08 04:13 PM   #16 
  - Revote in Michigan  apcalc   Feb-09-08 04:59 PM   #25 
  - Why bother with the primary season at all?  Vinca   Feb-09-08 04:13 PM   #17 
  - Yeah, she's the Inevitable Queen.  Oregonian   Feb-10-08 08:02 PM   #76 
  - Florida's rule-busting primary:  Speciesamused   Feb-09-08 04:18 PM   #19 
  - Does she really think she can win the general election without Obama supporters?  still_one   Feb-09-08 05:07 PM   #28 
  - Lets not start that GOP "I'll take my ball an go home crap"  Fluffdaddy   Feb-09-08 05:39 PM   #34 
     - That isn't GOP crap, if they seat MI and FL without a redo, we WILL lose  still_one   Feb-09-08 10:16 PM   #45 
        - Then you got 4-8 more years of GOP wing-nuts  Fluffdaddy   Feb-10-08 12:04 AM   #54 
           - I usually advise against getting mad and taking the ball and bat home  RamboLiberal   Feb-10-08 02:31 AM   #61 
  - This is HilBilly's truest measure: they are willing to destroy the  coalition_unwilling   Feb-11-08 12:04 PM   #80 
  - The ones who showed up for the beauty pageant were heard..  SoCalDem   Feb-09-08 04:31 PM   #20 
  - Very simple Hillary, if you win because of this without do a redo of the primaries, NO VOTE FROM ME  still_one   Feb-09-08 04:57 PM   #24 
  - there's no time for that.....  ObamaJacksome   Feb-09-08 10:49 PM   #51 
     - Honor our party leader's decisions?  RamboLiberal   Feb-10-08 02:56 AM   #62 
  - which is why excluding the delegates from those states was suicidal  0rganism   Feb-09-08 05:19 PM   #29 
  - Dean will be against it ...  BearSquirrel2   Feb-09-08 05:56 PM   #36 
     - This will be a litmus test  shadowrider   Feb-09-08 06:32 PM   #39 
  - No they shouldn't...and you wouldn't say so if you didn't win them  boricua79   Feb-09-08 05:29 PM   #31 
  - Clinton won on "Hillary vs. None of the Above" ballots  high density   Feb-09-08 07:40 PM   #40 
  - Do over  JerseygirlCT   Feb-09-08 08:04 PM   #41 
  - This crap is why I didn't vote for Hillary. You can't just change the rules.  Jersey Ginny   Feb-09-08 08:56 PM   #42 
  - This is EXACTLY like her saying she'll decide her own presidential powers...  Zhade   Feb-09-08 11:07 PM   #52 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-10-08 10:06 AM   #66 
  - erm  HuffleClaw   Feb-09-08 08:57 PM   #43 
  - What is wrong with this woman?  lancer78   Feb-09-08 09:40 PM   #44 
  - hey man!  ObamaJacksome   Feb-09-08 10:41 PM   #49 
  - What is negative about it?  lancer78   Feb-10-08 12:12 AM   #55 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-10-08 10:01 AM   #65 
  - Is anyone really surprised at this dirty stuff?  JeanGrey   Feb-09-08 11:28 PM   #53 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-10-08 12:43 AM   #56 
  - she really needs delegates now  ursi   Feb-10-08 12:56 AM   #57 
  - Amazing how cutesy the Clinton campaign was to remain on the ballot  RamboLiberal   Feb-10-08 02:18 AM   #60 
  - How about superdelegates?  Pigwidgeon   Feb-10-08 08:12 AM   #63 
  - Last fall one thing, now the opposite  SOS   Feb-10-08 12:56 PM   #69 
  - Well there's a fucking surprise! nt  Earth_First   Feb-10-08 02:31 PM   #70 
  - Where was she when it counted? She helped screw MI and FL.  knitter4democracy   Feb-10-08 05:27 PM   #72 
  - I agree  Mz Pip   Feb-10-08 06:21 PM   #74 
  - I will gladly vote again. This time for Obama and not uncommitted.  sarcasmo   Feb-11-08 12:13 PM   #81 
  - I don't see how she can justify this stance. This is akin to the Bush shenanigans in Florida 2000.  yellowcanine   Feb-11-08 01:05 PM   #84 
  - Plenty of time for a caucus or primary  JPZenger   Feb-11-08 01:20 PM   #85 
  - You can't be serious  inMD   Feb-11-08 01:27 PM   #86 
  - Hill's Big Fat Pres Primary  grassfed   Feb-11-08 01:38 PM   #87 
  - Previously agreed they wouldn't count, but now that she's down she's willing to CHEAT. Nice.  NoodleyAppendage   Feb-11-08 09:29 PM   #90 
  - Let every vote (for me) count  The Croquist   Feb-13-08 03:26 PM   #92 
  - Bullshit. You wouldn't give a fuck if Obama had won those states, so go sell your "concern"...  truebrit71   Feb-13-08 03:46 PM   #93 
 

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