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They asked if we thought they should endorse if the vote went over 2/3 for a candidate. I said, yes. Because I DO believe in democracy.
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| -Big News - MoveOn.org To Work For Obama |
mefoolonhill |
Feb-01-08 11:29 AM |
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Is this true??? |
norwespatriot |
Feb-01-08 11:33 AM |
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If so, it's news to me. The VRWC would have had her for breakfast during the impeachment.... |
Hekate |
Feb-01-08 12:33 PM |
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Yes. Even CNN radio news was reporting it this afternoon |
AllyCat |
Feb-01-08 01:37 PM |
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You have that slightly wrong. |
discerning christian |
Feb-01-08 01:49 PM |
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They CANNOT by LAW as a 501(c)(4) Endorse ANY candidate.. |
Tellurian |
Feb-01-08 05:12 PM |
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Maybe thier lawyers know something you don't? |
D23MIURG23 |
Feb-01-08 05:35 PM |
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Well let them sue their lawyers.. The IRS doesn't budge for anyone.. |
Tellurian |
Feb-01-08 05:38 PM |
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It seems to me that they have endorsed candidates before |
D23MIURG23 |
Feb-01-08 05:46 PM |
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I don't believe I've ever heard of them actively campaigning for a candidate before.. |
Tellurian |
Feb-01-08 05:55 PM |
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They worked to get Kerry elected during the 2004 election. nt |
I Have A Dream |
Feb-01-08 07:01 PM |
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HA! |
Tellurian |
Feb-01-08 07:04 PM |
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That was after he was nominated. They ran ads against |
juajen |
Feb-01-08 07:28 PM |
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Yes, I'm talking about the general election. I worked as my voting... |
I Have A Dream |
Feb-02-08 01:59 PM |
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In 2004 MoveOn was much better organized in Florida than the Kerry campaign was. nt |
bushmeat |
Feb-01-08 07:29 PM |
#109 |
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They certainly were. The local Dems absolutely |
MadAnne |
Feb-01-08 09:08 PM |
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I feel that the same was true in Pennsylvania. nt |
I Have A Dream |
Feb-02-08 02:00 PM |
#161 |
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Like the Republicans and DLC wouldn't sink their teeth in at the first opening |
D23MIURG23 |
Feb-01-08 07:31 PM |
#110 |
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Well they sent us all voer the country to get out the vote for kerry in 2004. It was a great |
robinlynne |
Feb-01-08 11:33 PM |
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LOL, I imagine they know how they are going to be doing this. I wouldn't worry |
EV_Ares |
Feb-01-08 08:16 PM |
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Good........and they lost me as a member. |
Gin |
Feb-01-08 05:50 PM |
#74 |
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Is that what you're going to say to the Democratic party |
tabasco |
Feb-01-08 06:05 PM |
#77 |
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Does this mean you are mad at Teddy too? eom. |
EV_Ares |
Feb-01-08 08:17 PM |
#127 |
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Actually, their PAC can endorse candidates... |
rdmtimp |
Feb-01-08 06:13 PM |
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I looked it up as well... |
Raine1967 |
Feb-01-08 06:32 PM |
#88 |
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It is spelled LOSE not LOOSE moran, and I doubt they are in any trouble here |
bushmeat |
Feb-01-08 07:28 PM |
#107 |
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Here is how they get around that.... |
ingac70 |
Feb-01-08 08:03 PM |
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They have another entity that is a PAC now, and PACs can endorse. |
Liberty Belle |
Feb-01-08 08:53 PM |
#130 |
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What has this to do with my post??? |
discerning christian |
Feb-01-08 10:32 PM |
#142 |
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I was under the impression they are a 527 |
DavidMS |
Feb-02-08 05:35 PM |
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Maybe I'm the ignorant one, but aren't they a 527? |
CANDO |
Feb-02-08 11:24 PM |
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They're both - 2 separate legal entities |
KevinJ |
Feb-02-08 11:51 PM |
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Faulty memory. I answered such that it was clear that I would NOT |
AllyCat |
Feb-02-08 12:26 AM |
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Yeah, I voted but commented that they shouldn't endorse anyone. |
krkaufman |
Feb-01-08 07:03 PM |
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So now they're gone hyper partisan ... willing to rip the party apart |
Fredda Weinberg |
Feb-01-08 11:34 AM |
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Their members voted |
MH1 |
Feb-01-08 11:37 AM |
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Big deal. Useless then, useless now ... they pay to play |
Fredda Weinberg |
Feb-01-08 11:47 AM |
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that is correct, it had to be at least 2/3rds n/t |
nbcouch |
Feb-01-08 11:56 AM |
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WOW !! |
discerning christian |
Feb-01-08 01:44 PM |
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I Didn't Get Asked To Vote... They Just Showed Me The Stats AFTER |
ChiciB1 |
Feb-01-08 09:10 PM |
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actually, Hillary is the one ripping the Party apart. MoveOn is doing its best to save it. |
JackORoses |
Feb-01-08 03:52 PM |
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DING DING DING! JackORoses, you're our grand prize winner! |
rocknation |
Feb-01-08 04:28 PM |
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Thats right & MoveOn has always done what they could for the party, can't believe |
EV_Ares |
Feb-01-08 08:18 PM |
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They're betting on the least-corrupted of the two candidates. |
Orsino |
Feb-02-08 07:44 AM |
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Didn't Hillary vote to censure them? |
Gonnabuymeagun |
Feb-01-08 04:50 PM |
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Again I have to apologize |
Gonnabuymeagun |
Feb-01-08 06:16 PM |
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Your error is understandable, given that Hillary herself said this three days after her vote: |
MilesColtrane |
Feb-02-08 10:51 AM |
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LOL.... |
sendero |
Feb-02-08 07:38 AM |
#152 |
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so let me get this straight |
russian33 |
Feb-01-08 11:39 AM |
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Of course.. |
Duke Newcombe |
Feb-01-08 11:41 AM |
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Right, which is why their principles are so often upheld by Congress... |
D23MIURG23 |
Feb-01-08 03:43 PM |
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only shows... |
Duke Newcombe |
Feb-01-08 05:44 PM |
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Its an endorsement. |
D23MIURG23 |
Feb-01-08 03:36 PM |
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Not good. They should not endorse anyone. MSM will use this to hurt Obama. nt |
onehandle |
Feb-01-08 11:40 AM |
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I totally agree. |
lostnfound |
Feb-01-08 05:01 PM |
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You're right |
quakerboy |
Feb-01-08 07:27 PM |
#105 |
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I am not in favor of status quo |
lostnfound |
Feb-02-08 07:20 AM |
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3.2 Million Members nationwide; 1.7 million in states voting next Tuesday. |
Divernan |
Feb-01-08 11:42 AM |
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Right! |
blayne |
Feb-01-08 03:47 PM |
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I tried to send a comment w/out voting ...yeah rite. |
Desertrose |
Feb-01-08 11:52 AM |
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Same here, I was NOT pleased. |
karlrschneider |
Feb-01-08 11:58 AM |
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Same here. |
blayne |
Feb-01-08 12:26 PM |
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I just unsubscribed and left a message for them |
Desertrose |
Feb-01-08 02:49 PM |
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I just followed your example.. |
jbm |
Feb-01-08 06:42 PM |
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I didn't vote either. |
murielm99 |
Feb-01-08 03:19 PM |
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MoveOn already asked for your voice |
KevinJ |
Feb-03-08 12:23 AM |
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Shame. |
JoFerret |
Feb-01-08 12:24 PM |
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Who cares? |
smiley_glad_hands |
Feb-01-08 12:25 PM |
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Figured. |
aquart |
Feb-01-08 12:28 PM |
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Well, it isn't as if we can verify the vote in any way, is it. Funny, how it just |
juajen |
Feb-01-08 07:38 PM |
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Lot of snarking here. I joined Censure and Move On during the impeachment fiasco & am a member still |
Hekate |
Feb-01-08 12:29 PM |
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Nicely put. |
blayne |
Feb-01-08 12:32 PM |
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So, you're saying that the money i donated, if I donated, |
juajen |
Feb-01-08 07:41 PM |
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Umm, yes, that's what a PAC is |
KevinJ |
Feb-02-08 11:12 PM |
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Of course they told Hillary supporters to screw themselves. |
juajen |
Feb-01-08 07:49 PM |
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It's a democracy. It's an election. It's the primaries. Someone loses. Get a grip on yourself |
Hekate |
Feb-01-08 08:06 PM |
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Exactly |
KevinJ |
Feb-02-08 11:21 PM |
#164 |
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Bye bye MoveOn. |
stimbox |
Feb-01-08 12:32 PM |
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That's your choice |
KevinJ |
Feb-02-08 11:27 PM |
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I've already asked them not to send me anymore e-mails.. |
paganlib |
Feb-01-08 12:39 PM |
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would you mind going into more details on the |
Bodhi BloodWave |
Feb-01-08 03:44 PM |
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I Didn't Vote |
Crisco |
Feb-01-08 12:39 PM |
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MoveOn |
mefoolonhill |
Feb-01-08 01:07 PM |
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This is not breaking news |
UALRBSofL |
Feb-01-08 01:38 PM |
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Ah, So MoveOn should be a personal 520? I see... |
iantepoot |
Feb-01-08 03:56 PM |
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Wrong. it was a vote by Moveon members. |
D23MIURG23 |
Feb-01-08 07:46 PM |
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NO IT WAS NOT!! I Was Not Asked To Vote!! They Just Sent An Email |
ChiciB1 |
Feb-01-08 09:15 PM |
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These reports are confusing the hell out of me |
D23MIURG23 |
Feb-02-08 12:59 AM |
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Their first couple of notices of the vote ended up in my spam filter. The final one made it through |
Hekate |
Feb-02-08 11:44 PM |
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Well said |
inMD |
Feb-01-08 02:04 PM |
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Excellently stated |
Hekate |
Feb-01-08 02:11 PM |
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ding ding ding!!! bravo! n/t |
LaStrega |
Feb-01-08 05:20 PM |
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I agree! |
RazBerryBeret |
Feb-01-08 05:54 PM |
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Of Course! You're Absolutely Right |
Crisco |
Feb-01-08 06:24 PM |
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Couldn't have said it better myself |
Geezus |
Feb-01-08 07:09 PM |
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Who could have foreseen that the anti-war voters would spurn Hillary? |
PassingFair |
Feb-01-08 02:00 PM |
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Most members of MoveOn are anti-war. Obama is the right candidate. |
catgirl |
Feb-01-08 02:03 PM |
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Obama is anti-war? Since when? Didn't he say he wanted to bomb Pakistan? |
krabigirl |
Feb-01-08 10:44 PM |
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This was a massive screw up |
Uben |
Feb-01-08 02:24 PM |
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It is a bitter disappointment, but I'm not shocked |
Fredda Weinberg |
Feb-01-08 02:35 PM |
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agreed. |
politicallore |
Feb-01-08 02:46 PM |
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This ruins the whole point of a unifying effort? dosnt it |
politicallore |
Feb-01-08 02:41 PM |
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Funny thing... |
SquireJons |
Feb-01-08 05:28 PM |
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You Go MoveOn.org :) |
FATCATs |
Feb-01-08 03:33 PM |
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When I questioned MoveOn |
RoccoR5955 |
Feb-01-08 03:35 PM |
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I've Posted A Couple Of Times Here... My Two Emails Were Sent |
ChiciB1 |
Feb-01-08 09:18 PM |
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AWESOME. I knew they wouldn't swing behind the DINO/DLC candidate. |
NoodleyAppendage |
Feb-01-08 03:36 PM |
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I am finished with move on |
Demo5 |
Feb-01-08 03:41 PM |
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Good riddance and good luck...clearing your conscience when Clinton tanks in the general. |
NoodleyAppendage |
Feb-01-08 06:23 PM |
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Can you really say anyone knows about being president |
Geezus |
Feb-01-08 07:16 PM |
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I was never told by them that they would decide who my nominee is. |
juajen |
Feb-01-08 08:00 PM |
#120 |
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Maybe you haven't been reading your emails carefully |
KevinJ |
Feb-03-08 12:12 AM |
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MoveOn's decision was DEMOCRACY -- what part don't you get? |
iantepoot |
Feb-01-08 03:50 PM |
#44 |
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What democracy? |
MagsDem |
Feb-01-08 04:03 PM |
#51 |
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"the vote total is about 7% of their total membership" |
anamandujano |
Feb-01-08 05:06 PM |
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If you unsubscribe- you can leave a message as to why. |
Desertrose |
Feb-02-08 12:50 AM |
#149 |
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Well said |
KevinJ |
Feb-02-08 11:33 PM |
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That's why they call it "people powered politics" |
rocknation |
Feb-01-08 03:50 PM |
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Moveon.org rocks! |
workinclasszero |
Feb-01-08 03:52 PM |
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If anyone here isn't a member of Move On, this is the email they sent out: |
blayne |
Feb-01-08 03:54 PM |
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Oh those horrible haters |
D23MIURG23 |
Feb-01-08 03:57 PM |
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FYI, Vote results |
rocknation |
Feb-01-08 04:35 PM |
#55 |
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I voted for Hillary and I will still stay with MoveOn. |
Shadoobie |
Feb-01-08 04:07 PM |
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Thanks for the info |
blogslut |
Feb-01-08 04:15 PM |
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It's iornic that the Moveon organization is endorsing someone other than Clinton. |
cat_girl25 |
Feb-01-08 04:42 PM |
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It was a democratic vote of the memberhsip |
boricua79 |
Feb-01-08 04:43 PM |
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Hillary voted to censure Move-on. |
Gonnabuymeagun |
Feb-01-08 04:48 PM |
#58 |
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MOVEON! |
mdmc |
Feb-01-08 04:56 PM |
#60 |
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I have to apologize |
Gonnabuymeagun |
Feb-01-08 06:15 PM |
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I see you caught your mistake |
blogslut |
Feb-01-08 06:20 PM |
#83 |
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Hey, I try to be honest. |
Gonnabuymeagun |
Feb-01-08 07:37 PM |
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It's cool |
blogslut |
Feb-01-08 07:46 PM |
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They've got a pretty good track record of helping the candidates they endorse win. |
MilesColtrane |
Feb-01-08 05:06 PM |
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See post #64.. MOVE ON is in for a big surprise.. a Bigger Movement... |
Tellurian |
Feb-01-08 05:36 PM |
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As a supporter, this is going to hurt him. |
water |
Feb-01-08 05:39 PM |
#70 |
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Who knows who or what Obama is... |
Tellurian |
Feb-01-08 05:48 PM |
#73 |
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::sighs:: context is everything |
Prayingforrain48 |
Feb-01-08 06:08 PM |
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context indeed |
beezlebum |
Feb-01-08 06:27 PM |
#86 |
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Out of curiosity, do you really think that was "praise"? |
KevinJ |
Feb-03-08 12:01 AM |
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Look, if Obama can change the context...So can I.. |
Tellurian |
Feb-01-08 07:02 PM |
#93 |
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3,000,000 MoveOn Members did NOT vote for Obama |
RetroLounge |
Feb-01-08 06:17 PM |
#82 |
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True |
blogslut |
Feb-01-08 06:30 PM |
#87 |
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Not all 3.2 million got ballots... |
RetroLounge |
Feb-01-08 07:08 PM |
#96 |
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So, provide me the stats |
blogslut |
Feb-01-08 07:27 PM |
#106 |
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Geez, find it yourself |
RetroLounge |
Feb-01-08 08:45 PM |
#129 |
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No thanks |
blogslut |
Feb-01-08 08:59 PM |
#131 |
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You're a condescending f*ckwit |
RetroLounge |
Feb-01-08 09:09 PM |
#134 |
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Made you lose your cool, didn't I? |
blogslut |
Feb-01-08 09:19 PM |
#139 |
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Actually no, I was laughing at you |
RetroLounge |
Feb-01-08 10:26 PM |
#141 |
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Okay |
blogslut |
Feb-01-08 11:33 PM |
#146 |
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Quote from their email linking to my ballot: |
MilesColtrane |
Feb-02-08 11:05 AM |
#157 |
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I Donated to MoveOn, Volunteered in 2004 and voted for MoveOn to endorse Obama |
bushmeat |
Feb-01-08 07:24 PM |
#103 |
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No landslide |
Bill Samuel |
Feb-01-08 07:39 PM |
#114 |
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MoveOn Vote is a Sham! |
Been Fishing |
Feb-01-08 06:34 PM |
#89 |
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this is what we had |
bambino |
Feb-01-08 07:17 PM |
#101 |
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I am so sick of these endorsements |
RestoreGore |
Feb-01-08 06:41 PM |
#90 |
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Bingo! I'm sad to see Move On endorsing corporatists. |
superconnected |
Feb-01-08 07:12 PM |
#99 |
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They better work real hard because their fundraising is gonna suck. |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 07:10 PM |
#98 |
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Well, I just quit MoveOn n/t |
qnr |
Feb-01-08 07:17 PM |
#102 |
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Good news nt |
McHatin |
Feb-01-08 07:25 PM |
#104 |
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I voted for MoveOn to endorse Obama |
bushmeat |
Feb-01-08 07:31 PM |
#111 |
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Me too. I'm surprised that the vote was not even close. |
Jersey Ginny |
Feb-01-08 07:53 PM |
#119 |
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I left the organization today because of it. |
BeatleBoot |
Feb-01-08 08:05 PM |
#122 |
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Who betrayed who? |
jyaples |
Feb-01-08 08:09 PM |
#124 |
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I've been a Moveon member since its beginning and I did not |
Vadem |
Feb-01-08 08:13 PM |
#125 |
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The Only Problem THEY Have Is So Many Of Their Members Have Been |
ChiciB1 |
Feb-01-08 09:06 PM |
#132 |
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I wish MoveOn would have had Kucinich, Richardson or Edwards to choose from |
texastoast |
Feb-01-08 09:16 PM |
#137 |
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It did. Everyone did. The people chose the final two. There wasn't much |
indie_ana_500 |
Feb-02-08 07:40 AM |
#153 |
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Your thread title violates LBN forums rules; I echo others in that MoveOn shouldn't endorse anyone.. |
DRoseDARs |
Feb-01-08 09:24 PM |
#140 |
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Well they just lost this family. |
TriMetFan |
Feb-01-08 11:04 PM |
#144 |
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What better way to move on from the era of their inception? |
andyrowe |
Feb-01-08 11:23 PM |
#145 |
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They will do more harm than good. |
bluestdogest |
Feb-02-08 10:19 AM |
#155 |
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boots on the ground |
usregimechange |
Feb-02-08 11:28 AM |
#158 |
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that's huge..n/t |
allisonthegreat |
Feb-02-08 12:44 PM |
#159 |
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Great news! Great organization! |
David Zephyr |
Feb-03-08 02:34 AM |
#173 |
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