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74. It is rather clear to me that the dangerous animal needs to be
contained in such an enclosure that it can not get out. If it's acceptable for the animal to get out because it was upset at teasing, it then might attack a person or persons that were not teasing it. This tiger, from the time line, was running around at that zoo for quite some time before being killed. During that time it could have attacked anyone it met.
I fail to see how it should be acceptable for the zoo to keep an animal in such an enclosure that it can get out if it feels like it because it is really upset at someone.
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  -Police: Zoo survivor told of standing on railing and yelling at tiger kskiska  Jan-17-08 08:56 PM   #0 
  - I'm pro-tiger  BeyondGeography   Jan-17-08 08:58 PM   #1 
  - You're not alone  kskiska   Jan-17-08 09:04 PM   # 
  - Something we agree on.  aquart   Jan-18-08 01:04 AM   #53 
  - me three  48percenter   Jan-18-08 04:26 AM   #66 
  - I am as well  classicfilmfan   Jan-18-08 10:11 AM   #89 
  - I am also pro-tiger...  jberryhill   Jan-24-08 04:19 PM   #168 
  - Me too.  Alexander   Jan-24-08 04:44 PM   #173 
  - Me eight (or nine). Amazing that people cannot see how the loss of such an endangered animal due to  The Stranger   Jan-25-08 02:12 PM   #180 
  - the tiger enclosure has been there 67 years  allalone   Jan-17-08 09:04 PM   #2 
  - Do you really think nobody had shouted at at tiger in 67 years?  daleo   Jan-17-08 11:47 PM   #43 
  - Actually, previous generations had manners.  aquart   Jan-18-08 01:05 AM   #54 
  - Yeah, right  daleo   Jan-18-08 11:24 AM   #95 
  - Nobody Had Schizophrenia in 67 years?  jberryhill   Jan-24-08 04:21 PM   #169 
  - Bullshit. Previous generations have a pompous attitude about how things were...  Alexander   Jan-24-08 04:47 PM   #174 
     - They also had bear-baiting  jberryhill   Jan-24-08 09:47 PM   #176 
  - we used to go to the SF zoo every weekend  allalone   Jan-18-08 01:47 AM   #60 
  - Yes, they've now admitted that they were inside the tiger enclosure itself.  yardwork   Jan-18-08 09:00 AM   #78 
  - No what they deserved  boricua79   Jan-18-08 10:32 AM   #92 
  - So you never saw this in all your visits  daleo   Jan-18-08 11:27 AM   #96 
     - Right, The tiger was taunted three or four times a day,  mycritters2   Jan-19-08 12:15 PM   #143 
        - Yea. Totally impossible.  lizzy   Jan-19-08 02:57 PM   #154 
        - Well, a tiger taunting every hundred days would equal 245 tauntings  daleo   Jan-19-08 04:56 PM   #157 
  - The tiger was 4 years old  minnesota_liberal   Jan-19-08 05:26 PM   #158 
  - had the exhibit always housed siberian tigers? or bengal tigers?  QuestionAll   Jan-24-08 04:38 PM   #171 
  - Not only did I manage to survive...  Hell Hath No Fury   Jan-18-08 11:21 AM   #94 
  - Cruise the Chron for other instances of near misses.  sfexpat2000   Jan-18-08 04:26 PM   #114 
  - I'll bet when that tiger leaped the wall there was a reall "awh shit" moment.  thunder rising   Jan-17-08 09:05 PM   #3 
  - Good on the tiger...I am so sorry the tiger had to die.  1620rock   Jan-17-08 09:15 PM   #4 
  - I'd like to make my official nomination for the year's Darwin Award...  TankLV   Jan-17-08 11:07 PM   #30 
  - Probably not. Nobody has been accused of a crime.  yardwork   Jan-18-08 09:02 AM   #79 
  - you got that right  allalone   Jan-18-08 01:48 AM   #61 
  - RIP Carlos AND Tatiana  blondie58   Jan-17-08 09:26 PM   #5 
  - Her necropsy report includes her history in Denver  kskiska   Jan-17-08 09:37 PM   #7 
  - Did the necropsy report also include  MediaBabe   Jan-17-08 10:18 PM   #16 
     - Yes, it did.  kskiska   Jan-17-08 10:33 PM   #22 
     - Actually, if you were to watch the animal planet shows, you would  lizzy   Jan-18-08 12:18 AM   #45 
     - That's absolutely right  kskiska   Jan-18-08 12:49 AM   #51 
     - My beagle-mix taught me that as a child. Do. Not. Get. Near. My. Food.  yardwork   Jan-18-08 09:04 AM   #80 
        - My beagle is fed in her crate, to keep the cats from sniffing at her food.  mycritters2   Jan-19-08 12:19 PM   #144 
           - We fed the cats on the kitchen counter for decades for the same reason.  yardwork   Jan-19-08 12:33 PM   #145 
              - My cats eat on the counter as well. The beagle wants them to stay out of her food.  mycritters2   Jan-19-08 12:46 PM   #150 
                 - LOL! Beagles are like that!  yardwork   Jan-19-08 12:51 PM   #152 
     - Agreed.  FiveGoodMen   Jan-18-08 04:31 PM   #115 
  - Tatiana's the real victim...  GoddessOfGuinness   Jan-17-08 09:47 PM   #9 
  - Yep. Well Said.  panzerfaust   Jan-18-08 06:56 AM   #71 
  - Totally agree.  closeupready   Jan-18-08 10:34 AM   #93 
  - and the enclosure designer who decided the 12.5 ft was tall  ladjf   Jan-17-08 10:45 PM   #25 
     - And the inspector that OK'd that height.  Lars39   Jan-18-08 07:10 AM   #72 
        - What kind of argument is this?  lizzy   Jan-18-08 06:29 PM   #123 
  - F*king liers trying to keep themselves from a law suit that will cost them millions. Get a good  pingzing58   Jan-17-08 09:27 PM   #6 
  - Do you mean the ZOO?  aquart   Jan-18-08 01:07 AM   #55 
  - One of their lawyers is the guy who "defended" Scott  cboy4   Jan-18-08 01:14 AM   #58 
     - geragos is a world class jerk  allalone   Jan-18-08 02:00 AM   #64 
     - And your point is what?  jberryhill   Jan-24-08 09:49 PM   #177 
  - I'm getting a bit sick of this. I don't care what those people did to the tigers...  Harper_is_Bush   Jan-17-08 09:39 PM   #8 
  - There's a little box you can check in the thread title  kskiska   Jan-17-08 09:47 PM   #10 
  - buzz off  Harper_is_Bush   Jan-17-08 10:30 PM   #20 
     - boy, you're really in a mood  allalone   Jan-18-08 01:50 AM   #62 
  - Tiger should not have been able to get out BUT  panzerfaust   Jan-18-08 06:54 AM   #70 
  - Doesn't it make you feel worse to not only read but post on threads you dislike?  yardwork   Jan-18-08 09:05 AM   #81 
  - That's the bottom line, isn't it?  MediaBabe   Jan-18-08 10:02 PM   #130 
  - I agree  classykaren   Jan-20-08 12:43 PM   #165 
  - 1. humans ARE animals  Scout   Jan-25-08 02:43 PM   #182 
  - I'm sick of this too: Don't get drunk and cause the destruction of endangered zoo animals.  The Stranger   Jan-25-08 02:14 PM   #181 
  - Stupid kids have been teasing zoo animals for ages  nebula   Jan-17-08 09:51 PM   #11 
  - For sure -- and zoo enclosures must be designed to contain animals,  pnwmom   Jan-17-08 11:31 PM   #38 
  - Mild teasing? Do you consider torture to be "frat boy pranks?"  yardwork   Jan-18-08 09:09 AM   #82 
     - I don't care if they were making faces at it or throwing rocks at it  nebula   Jan-18-08 01:07 PM   #102 
     - Cars should not be able to cross median strips and hit other cars, but they do.  yardwork   Jan-18-08 04:08 PM   #108 
     - The other cars lured it. Taunted it.  MediaBabe   Jan-18-08 09:33 PM   #129 
     - So there are some sane people left on DU.  springhill   Jan-20-08 01:02 PM   #167 
     - Yes you're mad but are you mad enough?  MediaBabe   Jan-18-08 09:27 PM   #128 
  - They sure had Tatiana pissed off at them  RamboLiberal   Jan-17-08 09:54 PM   #12 
  - You can make a tiger extremely pissed at you  nebula   Jan-17-08 09:58 PM   #13 
  - you can make an animal mad just with a staredown  allalone   Jan-18-08 01:54 AM   #63 
  - There's evidence they may have climbed into the enclosure  kskiska   Jan-17-08 09:59 PM   #14 
  - Evidence like bodies in the enclosure? n/t  MediaBabe   Jan-17-08 10:29 PM   #19 
  - Did ya read the post you responded to?  tuckessee   Jan-17-08 10:43 PM   #24 
     - Bloody sign but no body.  MediaBabe   Jan-17-08 10:52 PM   #27 
        - They weren't down in the pit  kskiska   Jan-17-08 10:59 PM   #29 
        - Down in the pit  MediaBabe   Jan-17-08 11:15 PM   #34 
        - Truth is there's not enough info to know right now.  tuckessee   Jan-17-08 11:12 PM   #32 
           - The tiger with super-human strength because she was  lizzy   Jan-18-08 12:21 AM   #46 
              - Do you have a comprehension problem?  tuckessee   Jan-18-08 12:55 AM   #52 
                 - I would say that a tiger has much more strength than a human. n/t  RebelOne   Jan-18-08 06:33 AM   #68 
  - LOL.  nebula   Jan-17-08 11:48 PM   #44 
  - Mishandled by keepers.  MediaBabe   Jan-17-08 10:26 PM   #18 
  - Re the taunting and harassment....  catchnrelease   Jan-18-08 12:27 AM   #48 
  - Maybe she was hormonal? PMS? Peri-menopause?  pnwmom   Jan-17-08 11:33 PM   #40 
  - Just actin' like "normal" kids?  DogPoundPup   Jan-17-08 10:15 PM   #15 
  - Drunk and stoned is actually pretty normal for young adults  nebula   Jan-17-08 10:35 PM   #23 
     - drunk and stoned are normal"?!?! in what fucking UNIVERSE?!?!  TankLV   Jan-17-08 11:11 PM   #31 
     - In the universe where "fucking" is acceptable language.  MediaBabe   Jan-17-08 11:20 PM   #35 
     - Even if they do get money they won't last long.  kskiska   Jan-17-08 11:22 PM   #36 
     - Well, in that case, it will be their problem and not yours.  lizzy   Jan-18-08 12:22 AM   #47 
     - Well brought up children, aren't they?  aquart   Jan-18-08 01:11 AM   #56 
     - Sure, let's give the daeth penalty to anyone who was ever drunk or stoned  nebula   Jan-17-08 11:24 PM   #37 
     - they deserved what they got? death?  kas125   Jan-18-08 01:12 AM   #57 
        - Your right thats sick  classykaren   Jan-20-08 12:48 PM   #166 
     - My teenage boys arent't stoned and drunk, and neither are their friends.  yardwork   Jan-18-08 09:12 AM   #83 
  - And I say again where were the Security Guards or other personel  MadMaddie   Jan-17-08 10:25 PM   #17 
  - No cameras, no security, no safety monitoring to be found anyhwere  nebula   Jan-17-08 10:49 PM   #26 
  - There used to be a P.A. system, but the neighbors complained  kskiska   Jan-17-08 10:54 PM   #28 
  - just like almost ALL zoos...yeah - imagine that...  TankLV   Jan-17-08 11:12 PM   #33 
  - No other zoo in the United States  nebula   Jan-17-08 11:33 PM   #41 
  - The Zoo's pay a pretty dollar for the animals... it is insane that  MadMaddie   Jan-18-08 08:40 PM   #126 
  - And worse, they barred the doors of the zoo cafe, forcing the young men --  pnwmom   Jan-17-08 11:35 PM   #42 
     - That's their lawyer's story. I doubt it.  yardwork   Jan-18-08 09:15 AM   #84 
     - It's on the 911 call  RamboLiberal   Jan-18-08 12:22 PM   #98 
        - Maybe nobody was there to open it. The zoo was closed. What were they doing there?  yardwork   Jan-18-08 03:57 PM   #105 
           - Maybe you should actually listen to 911 call before commenting.  lizzy   Jan-18-08 06:27 PM   #122 
     - If you were closed and counting the day's receipts and cleaning up  kskiska   Jan-18-08 12:39 PM   #99 
  - Did the tiger run past any bystanders while going after the other two? n/t  tuckessee   Jan-17-08 10:32 PM   #21 
  - I presume she did.  lizzy   Jan-18-08 12:28 AM   #50 
     - But was not interested in them  panzerfaust   Jan-18-08 10:02 AM   #88 
     - It was near closing time and it was Christmas day  RamboLiberal   Jan-18-08 12:21 PM   #97 
  - My feelings about the whole thing  blackspade   Jan-17-08 11:33 PM   #39 
  - that Jungle Book tiger was a nice fella. what gives?  Algorem   Jan-18-08 12:27 AM   #49 
  - Jungle Book tiger, Shere Khan was a B-A-D tiger!  PassingFair   Jan-18-08 09:29 AM   #86 
     - As far as I recall, he was a man eating tiger.  lizzy   Jan-18-08 06:44 PM   #124 
  - This was obvious. It was just a question of when the brothers  question everything   Jan-18-08 01:26 AM   #59 
  - They may have thrown stones and washers at the tigers  kskiska   Jan-18-08 02:10 AM   #65 
  - What a cruel zoo  jberryhill   Jan-24-08 04:33 PM   #170 
     - i don't think i've ever been to a zoo where outdoor exhibits prevent people from throwing things...  QuestionAll   Jan-24-08 04:42 PM   #172 
        - Then maybe they should be re-designed  jberryhill   Jan-24-08 09:45 PM   #175 
           - but then- it's never really been about the best interests of the animals.  QuestionAll   Jan-24-08 09:56 PM   #178 
  - Shocked. SHOCKED! Drugs and alcohol too - is there to be no end to surprises?  panzerfaust   Jan-18-08 06:25 AM   #67 
  - It may be even worse. This is only what they told the dead guy's father.  kskiska   Jan-18-08 08:15 AM   #77 
  - I'm Glad This Has Come Out. These Guys Were Boneheads  Crisco   Jan-18-08 06:38 AM   #69 
  - I'm having trouble working up any sympathy for these jerks.  mwb970   Jan-18-08 07:21 AM   #73 
  - It is rather clear to me that the dangerous animal needs to be  lizzy   Jan-18-08 07:37 AM   #74 
  - I do see your point.  mwb970   Jan-18-08 07:53 AM   #75 
  - "Perhaps the morons are blameless victims of blatant lawbreaking by the zoo"  panzerfaust   Jan-18-08 08:06 AM   #76 
  - Parents of crying children expect them to get eaten by tigers  MediaBabe   Jan-18-08 09:09 PM   #127 
  - Let's remove all barriers between zoo tigers and spectators  nebula   Jan-18-08 01:01 PM   #101 
  - Exactly! Their friend laying in a pool of blood will teach them!  plainsight   Jan-18-08 04:14 PM   #111 
     - they damn well should be fucking guilt ridden as hell....  Scout   Jan-18-08 04:34 PM   #116 
        - And I suppose everybody at that zoo should sleep like babies.  lizzy   Jan-18-08 06:45 PM   #125 
           - cuz those "boys" were just minding their own business and that  Scout   Jan-19-08 07:21 AM   #131 
              - To me, that is just the stupidest argument, to suggest that  lizzy   Jan-19-08 08:42 AM   #135 
  - Where in the fuck were the zookeepers?  The Stranger   Jan-18-08 09:25 AM   #85 
  - We out sourced our zoo management. The zookeepers were  sfexpat2000   Jan-18-08 04:37 PM   #118 
  - 6.2 Billion people on the planet  snooper2   Jan-18-08 09:37 AM   #87 
  - Pity nobody else happened along and shoved them in.  seawolf   Jan-18-08 10:25 AM   #90 
  - Exactly! Having their friend killed is too soft a punishment IMO.  plainsight   Jan-18-08 04:11 PM   #109 
     - Sarcasm, sarcasm. Doesn't change my beliefs.  seawolf   Jan-19-08 12:41 PM   #148 
     - Idiots  humbled_opinion   Jan-20-08 12:21 PM   #164 
  - I'm pro tiger too. Teenagers at closing time? Common sense tells you that something fishy happened.  TheGoldenRule   Jan-18-08 10:30 AM   #91 
  - Yep...  humbled_opinion   Jan-18-08 12:41 PM   #100 
  - Exactly! Having a tiger slash the throat of their friend is a lesson learned!  plainsight   Jan-18-08 04:13 PM   #110 
     - Hate on who the poor animal...or the idiot that knew better?  humbled_opinion   Jan-20-08 11:10 AM   #163 
  - I once had the opportunity  LanternWaste   Jan-18-08 01:13 PM   #103 
  - Great story. I would love to have done that.  RebelOne   Jan-18-08 01:23 PM   #104 
  - That's a good story. I have felt the same way since this story broke.  yardwork   Jan-18-08 04:04 PM   #107 
  - You're right. The animal had to have been provoked way beyond  kskiska   Jan-18-08 04:22 PM   #113 
  - It's obvious that those three men deliberately provoked the tiger.  yardwork   Jan-19-08 12:38 PM   #147 
  - I agree with all but one word: requirement  minnesota_liberal   Jan-19-08 06:16 PM   #160 
  - what a wonderful story, LanternWaste  blondie58   Jan-19-08 10:17 AM   #138 
  - yes, the tiger had enough of the idiot human  katty   Jan-18-08 03:59 PM   #106 
  - Can't wait for the zoo rebellion! If we're lucky they'll kill us all!  plainsight   Jan-18-08 04:15 PM   #112 
     - if it's so hateful here, you're perfectly free to LEAVE....  Scout   Jan-18-08 04:35 PM   #117 
  - Search Warrant Affidavit  kskiska   Jan-18-08 05:44 PM   #119 
  - Everyone should read the affadavit linked in kskiska's post!!!! n/t  Scout   Jan-19-08 07:31 AM   #132 
     - Not just tigers being taunted.  EvilAL   Jan-19-08 08:31 AM   #134 
        - Could very well have been groups of different people  lizzy   Jan-19-08 09:18 AM   #136 
        - That's what I was thinking too  EvilAL   Jan-19-08 09:40 AM   #137 
           - Apparently, according to research, it's not uncommon for  lizzy   Jan-19-08 11:19 AM   #140 
        - It makes me angry that the zoo allowed this to go on.  yardwork   Jan-19-08 12:46 PM   #149 
  - Hmmmmmmmm...  Dyedinthewoolliberal   Jan-18-08 05:50 PM   #120 
  - Why should we believe what they say? They are liars.  Evergreen Emerald   Jan-18-08 06:25 PM   #121 
  - If it ever happens to me.  EvilAL   Jan-19-08 08:01 AM   #133 
  - I live in the best of both worlds  junior college   Jan-19-08 10:29 AM   #139 
  - Well, in a civil lawsuit, even if the jury decides the victims were  lizzy   Jan-19-08 11:46 AM   #141 
     - Strict liability when you harbor wild animals  AngryAmish   Jan-19-08 02:03 PM   #153 
  - Who posted that 3 male friends < 25 and after hrs probably did something dumb to agitate the tiger?  minnesota_liberal   Jan-19-08 11:55 AM   #142 
  - Wow. How did you guess?  lizzy   Jan-19-08 03:03 PM   #155 
     - Elementary, my dear Lizzy  minnesota_liberal   Jan-19-08 05:45 PM   #159 
        - Hah?  lizzy   Jan-19-08 06:20 PM   #161 
           - Nice try. Thanks for playing.  minnesota_liberal   Jan-19-08 10:56 PM   #162 
  - Our actions have consequences  IndyBob   Jan-19-08 12:35 PM   #146 
  - Very good post.  yardwork   Jan-19-08 12:51 PM   #151 
  - Thank you  IndyBob   Jan-19-08 03:28 PM   #156 
  - So the consequences of taking my children to the zoo is..  jberryhill   Jan-25-08 11:37 AM   #179 
  - Why did they kill the tiger?  onyxred   Jan-25-08 09:06 PM   #183 
  - It was killed in action, while trying to maul a victim.  lizzy   Jan-26-08 01:12 AM   #184 
  - Karma can be a bitch. These stupid punks got what they deserved.  Seabiscuit   Jan-26-08 01:55 AM   #185 

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