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the "protect and defend" one. To protect and defend the interests of WS.
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| -STOCK MARKET WATCH, Thursday January 17 |
ozymandius |
Jan-17-08 04:12 AM |
#0 |
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Market WrapUp: Deleveraging & the Case for Stagflation |
ozymandius |
Jan-17-08 04:19 AM |
#1 |
| -
Today's Reports |
ozymandius |
Jan-17-08 04:24 AM |
#2 |
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U.S. 2007 housing starts off 25% to 15-year low |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 07:33 AM |
#30 |
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Housing starts plunge 14% to 16-year low in Dec. |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 07:42 AM |
#32 |
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UPDATE 1-U.S. housing Dec. starts hit 16-year low (check out the dates!) |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 08:24 AM |
#36 |
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1975, 1982-1983, 1991 |
ozymandius |
Jan-17-08 04:02 PM |
#177 |
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U.S. weekly initial jobless claims fall 21,000 |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 08:26 AM |
#37 |
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And these jobless claims can continue how long before falling out of the data set? |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 09:18 AM |
#52 |
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Isn't it just six months? |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 09:29 AM |
#57 |
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Unemployment benefits and the unemployed. |
TalkingDog |
Jan-17-08 10:35 AM |
#79 |
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Thanks TD. That is what I feared. |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 11:03 AM |
#87 |
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U.S. Jan. Philly Fed -20.9 vs. -1.6 in Dec. |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 09:18 AM |
#53 |
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Just a bit below consensus. |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 09:31 AM |
#59 |
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Oil near $91 after overnight drop |
ozymandius |
Jan-17-08 04:26 AM |
#3 |
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Oil profits could spark some backlash |
ozymandius |
Jan-17-08 04:29 AM |
#4 |
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regarding economic stimulus... |
radfringe |
Jan-17-08 04:29 AM |
#5 |
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I like this one. |
ozymandius |
Jan-17-08 04:33 AM |
#7 |
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lol.. it reminds me of an old joke/story |
radfringe |
Jan-17-08 04:41 AM |
#10 |
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Good one! |
ozymandius |
Jan-17-08 04:47 AM |
#12 |
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heh...a buddy of mine and I were talking of something similar to that last night. |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 07:06 AM |
#25 |
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Morning Marketeers...... |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 09:46 AM |
#62 |
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Morning AnneD... |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 09:54 AM |
#68 |
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pool guess- end of summer- beg. August |
kineneb |
Jan-17-08 10:34 AM |
#78 |
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Will do... |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 12:07 PM |
#97 |
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08/08/08 sounds good |
kineneb |
Jan-17-08 12:42 PM |
#105 |
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The 63 anniversary of the Soviet invasion of Manchuria. |
happyslug |
Jan-17-08 07:32 PM |
#190 |
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Oooooo, I wanna play! |
abelenkpe |
Jan-17-08 10:54 AM |
#84 |
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Sure...anyone can play... |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 12:02 PM |
#95 |
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OK, let's say 8/2/2008 :o) nt |
abelenkpe |
Jan-17-08 12:40 PM |
#104 |
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Please put me down for 5/3. |
MilesColtrane |
Jan-17-08 11:08 AM |
#90 |
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Done.... |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 12:05 PM |
#96 |
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Right. I'll specify more precisely my guess, thinking exactly like MilesColtrane: |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 02:21 PM |
#129 |
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That's 4/28 Ok, AnneD? |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 06:49 PM |
#189 |
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All hell will break loose |
spotbird |
Jan-17-08 12:16 PM |
#99 |
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My guess is that it'll hit that before the equinox |
Warpy |
Jan-17-08 12:59 PM |
#108 |
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From.... |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 03:20 PM |
#165 |
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Okay! You Win! |
Demeter |
Jan-17-08 03:12 PM |
#163 |
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A cyber beer .... |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 03:18 PM |
#164 |
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oops, bad link |
DemReadingDU |
Jan-17-08 07:30 AM |
#28 |
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Now it's over here! |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 08:33 AM |
#42 |
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one of my pet peeves |
cosmicdot |
Jan-17-08 02:55 PM |
#150 |
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....kind of like making a post only to discover the thread has been moved |
0007 |
Jan-17-08 06:20 PM |
#186 |
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Somber Fed says economy has lost punch |
ozymandius |
Jan-17-08 04:31 AM |
#6 |
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IMF warns subprime crisis losses 'may be higher' |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 06:03 AM |
#19 |
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That would be from the "no shit, sherlock" file, right? |
bain_sidhe |
Jan-17-08 12:49 PM |
#107 |
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Bernanke seems open to stimulus package |
ozymandius |
Jan-17-08 04:37 AM |
#8 |
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Bernanke faces grilling on fiscal stimulus stance |
ozymandius |
Jan-17-08 04:40 AM |
#9 |
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Bernanke better have a wide stance - we need more than a tinkle...;) |
radfringe |
Jan-17-08 05:26 AM |
#14 |
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I wonder if Chopper Ben is as gamy as those CEOs they were serving earlier? |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 08:38 AM |
#44 |
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cf. Two Views in the White House on an Economic Fix |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 06:23 AM |
#22 |
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yeah, right talk to one of the clowns who made the mess |
Warpy |
Jan-17-08 01:04 PM |
#110 |
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Consumers strained by price surge last year |
ozymandius |
Jan-17-08 04:44 AM |
#11 |
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There is a good article over |
burf |
Jan-17-08 08:32 AM |
#40 |
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Time to leave for the day. |
ozymandius |
Jan-17-08 04:49 AM |
#13 |
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Fine early start for you this morning Ozy. |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 06:07 AM |
#20 |
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Asian Stocks Gain, Led by Samsung, Mitsui Fudosan; China Drops |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 05:44 AM |
#15 |
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But note, it was like this at midday in Tokyo: |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 05:46 AM |
#16 |
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Alstom leads European gains |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 05:47 AM |
#17 |
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Eurozone to grow close to potential rate in 2008: ECB chief Trichet |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 05:49 AM |
#18 |
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Some FT reports/speculation on French, Spanish, Italian economies: |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 06:17 AM |
#21 |
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European stocks slide as banks weigh |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 02:59 PM |
#154 |
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FTSE slides after sentiment turns sour |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 03:03 PM |
#158 |
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Futures lose luster on Merrill $9.8B quarterly loss |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 06:56 AM |
#23 |
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Merrill Lynch posts steep 4Q loss and writes down $14.6B - Merrill had negative revenue of $8.19 bil |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 07:11 AM |
#26 |
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If I'm understanding what a writedown is, doesn't that mean |
olafvikingr |
Jan-17-08 07:39 AM |
#31 |
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So, if 'they' lost $24.6 billion, where did it go? |
DemReadingDU |
Jan-17-08 07:55 AM |
#34 |
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here's a place to look |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 08:19 AM |
#35 |
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I like the financial Haiku there... |
TalkingDog |
Jan-17-08 08:34 AM |
#43 |
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Ah. Nice catch on Chopper Ben. |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 08:45 AM |
#45 |
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in the dollar watch post today - they are now talking a 3/4 point rate cut |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 08:49 AM |
#46 |
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Hyper-Stagflation? |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 09:12 AM |
#51 |
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It will be ... |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 09:53 AM |
#66 |
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I wonder if I've still got my old Whip Inflation Now button in a box somewhere. |
MilesColtrane |
Jan-17-08 11:00 AM |
#86 |
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Not only is is historical... |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 12:21 PM |
#101 |
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dollar watch |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 07:05 AM |
#24 |
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Americans pay for housing boom's excess |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 07:15 AM |
#27 |
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No more easy credit? Whatever shall we do? |
trogdor |
Jan-17-08 07:48 AM |
#33 |
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Defining days, my friends. These are defining days. |
ozymandius |
Jan-17-08 04:15 PM |
#180 |
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Commentary: Like baseball, banks juiced, goosed and are paying for it now |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 07:31 AM |
#29 |
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Banks juiced and goosed.... |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 09:11 AM |
#50 |
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Futures shoot well to the plus side on much lower initial jobless claims |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 08:27 AM |
#38 |
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Well, that and the economic feel-good package... |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 08:30 AM |
#39 |
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9:32 EST Partying likes it's 1991! |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 08:33 AM |
#41 |
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10:03 EST Who turned off the music? |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 09:05 AM |
#48 |
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... |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 09:09 AM |
#49 |
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Dow industrials shed 84 points to 12,384 as Bernanke talks |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 09:23 AM |
#56 |
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PSA: Passengers are reminded to keep their arms and legs inside the hand-basket at all times... |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 09:31 AM |
#58 |
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Ha! Good one! Ranks up there with my favorite advice |
bain_sidhe |
Jan-17-08 01:04 PM |
#109 |
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Aw, thanks! |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 01:13 PM |
#112 |
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~10:15 ET: Somewhere in the distance a dog barks... |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 09:20 AM |
#54 |
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~09:45 ET: Hover... Hover... |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 09:00 AM |
#47 |
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12:35 ET: Hoover....Hoover... |
Zorra |
Jan-17-08 11:39 AM |
#93 |
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10:20 EST the bottom just dropped out |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 09:21 AM |
#55 |
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~10:30 ET: Yup, it's stimulated all right... |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 09:40 AM |
#60 |
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Yikes! |
DemReadingDU |
Jan-17-08 09:49 AM |
#65 |
| -
But why aren't the markets happy? |
fasttense |
Jan-17-08 09:53 AM |
#67 |
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Might have something to do with this one cheek sneak... |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 09:58 AM |
#69 |
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Ouch. The forecast drop was -1.5. n/t |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Jan-17-08 02:23 PM |
#130 |
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That's just about exactly when Bernanke's prepared comments were released. |
Zenlitened |
Jan-17-08 09:47 AM |
#63 |
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Is Bernanke under oath? |
Zenlitened |
Jan-17-08 09:42 AM |
#61 |
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Well, even if he isn't he's always under the other oath... |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 09:47 AM |
#64 |
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Not that one... |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 10:04 AM |
#70 |
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Well, he can't just denounce Greenscum's intentions |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 10:06 AM |
#71 |
| -
Is Piehole Effect Syndrome contagious? |
hatrack |
Jan-17-08 10:43 AM |
#80 |
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Chopper Ben: Open mouth - stupid falls out - Fed must maintain credibility on prices |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 10:50 AM |
#82 |
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Moody's may still downgrade $185 billion in CDOs |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 10:09 AM |
#72 |
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Bernanke: U.S. subprime losses at $100 billion so far |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 10:09 AM |
#73 |
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I'm guessing that 100 billion is on the low side of things when all is said and done. |
Nickster |
Jan-17-08 10:16 AM |
#74 |
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Wait! Wait! Isn't 20% of a Trillion (with a 'T') Dollars = $200 Billion (with a 'B')? |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 10:20 AM |
#75 |
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He's using Karl Rove's Real Math. |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 10:23 AM |
#76 |
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Eh, it's only a difference of ONE.HUNDRED.BILLION.DOLLARS... |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 10:27 AM |
#77 |
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Bernanke-US subprime losses won't top $500 billion (gee - that's only half a trillion dollars!) |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 10:48 AM |
#81 |
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Something tells me he's going to settle on a number which is oddly enough equal to the SS escrow... |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 10:58 AM |
#85 |
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Fhee-ew! |
MilesColtrane |
Jan-17-08 11:18 AM |
#91 |
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"I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed...." |
htuttle |
Jan-17-08 12:19 PM |
#100 |
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... |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 12:28 PM |
#102 |
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There is absolutely no logic in these statements. No wonder the Shrub selected him. n/t |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 03:46 PM |
#175 |
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11:50 EST red numbers - inane blather |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 10:51 AM |
#83 |
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12:06pm - Whoa! Dropping like a Repub for a lobbyist's donation. |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 11:07 AM |
#88 |
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WOW.... |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 12:33 PM |
#103 |
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How Do I Get It To You, Anne? |
Demeter |
Jan-17-08 03:20 PM |
#166 |
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A cyber beer.... |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 03:29 PM |
#171 |
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Cramer spilling some beans? |
jdog |
Jan-17-08 11:08 AM |
#89 |
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Good. |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 11:18 AM |
#92 |
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Well that was very entertaining. "Financial Fiction" is right. |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 04:48 PM |
#182 |
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How low can it go? |
TOJ |
Jan-17-08 11:47 AM |
#94 |
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It's down 13.1% from its record high in Oct 2007 |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 12:13 PM |
#98 |
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14% in 3 friggin months? |
TOJ |
Jan-17-08 04:51 PM |
#183 |
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~13:35 ET: The Markets claw their way back up the slide... |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 12:43 PM |
#106 |
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Bernanke-gasoline price hikes a drag on US economy |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 01:11 PM |
#111 |
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Oddly Enough, Gas Prices Dropped a Dime Between 2 and 4 PM Today |
Demeter |
Jan-17-08 03:22 PM |
#167 |
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~14:00 ET: "You'll put your eye out, kid." |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 01:17 PM |
#113 |
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14:18: -200+ |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 01:19 PM |
#114 |
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2:30 Numbers? I think the word I'm looking for is.... |
TalkingDog |
Jan-17-08 01:31 PM |
#115 |
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2:33 and really fugly with blather |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 01:34 PM |
#116 |
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2:44pm - Even fuglier than that! |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 01:45 PM |
#118 |
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BTW, S&P now below the levels when Frat Boy took office in Jan. 2001!! |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 01:48 PM |
#120 |
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"Where is the support now?" |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 01:48 PM |
#121 |
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... |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 01:49 PM |
#122 |
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the good thing about all this |
feminazi |
Jan-17-08 02:33 PM |
#135 |
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Reminds me of an old Russian (maybe Yiddish) joke..... |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 03:03 PM |
#157 |
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ha!! good one, anne. |
feminazi |
Jan-17-08 03:11 PM |
#162 |
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S&P support numbers |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 02:04 PM |
#127 |
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S&P is below ALL of those. |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 02:58 PM |
#153 |
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You can still get in .... |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 01:46 PM |
#119 |
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yeah.... |
abelenkpe |
Jan-17-08 01:52 PM |
#123 |
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Bloodbath. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Jan-17-08 01:41 PM |
#117 |
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~15:00 ET: Support arrives... |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 01:54 PM |
#124 |
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Roland99's.... |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 01:56 PM |
#125 |
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... |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 01:59 PM |
#126 |
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3:07 EST supports gone |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 02:10 PM |
#128 |
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3:30pm - Jocular strap and over-the-shoulder boulder holder are shredded debris now. |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 02:30 PM |
#131 |
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3:31 - down more than 300 now |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 02:33 PM |
#136 |
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3:29 EST down 260+ now |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 02:31 PM |
#132 |
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3:30 today's tune - free falling - down 293 and under 12,200 |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 02:32 PM |
#133 |
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3:32pm - -300!!!! |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 02:32 PM |
#134 |
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3:36 and someone threw in a table leg |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 02:37 PM |
#137 |
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ARGH! My Dad got back into GE with his pension stocks. I told him wait for spring. |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 02:37 PM |
#138 |
| -
Demeter.... |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 02:37 PM |
# |
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I'm feelin'... mighty looowww... |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 02:38 PM |
#140 |
| -
Here You Go, Anne! |
Demeter |
Jan-17-08 03:27 PM |
#169 |
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That's what Hubby likes about me.... |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 03:32 PM |
#172 |
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People are going to be jumping out of |
spotbird |
Jan-17-08 02:37 PM |
#139 |
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As Long as It's The Right People, I Can Live With That |
Demeter |
Jan-17-08 03:28 PM |
#170 |
| -
3:49pm - PPT rally fails to hold |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 02:47 PM |
#141 |
| -
Novartis 4Q Net Profit Falls 45 Percent |
MATTMAN |
Jan-17-08 02:48 PM |
#142 |
| -
TD Ameritrade 1Q Profit Up 65 Percent |
MATTMAN |
Jan-17-08 02:50 PM |
#143 |
| -
Did the fed already throw money into the Market |
fascisthunter |
Jan-17-08 02:50 PM |
#144 |
| -
Suggest we change Bernanke's handle from Chopper Ben... |
MilesColtrane |
Jan-17-08 02:51 PM |
#145 |
| -
Is that my hero |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 03:44 PM |
#174 |
| -
dunno - but we might be in the Bernanke Bear Market |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 05:20 PM |
#184 |
| -
GM Expects Further Cost Cuts |
MATTMAN |
Jan-17-08 02:52 PM |
#146 |
| -
Sector Snap: Semiconductors Down |
MATTMAN |
Jan-17-08 02:53 PM |
#147 |
| -
All the stocks I'm streaming are going up as I believe there's a lot of folks |
Dawggie |
Jan-17-08 02:54 PM |
#148 |
| -
Metals at a Glance |
MATTMAN |
Jan-17-08 02:55 PM |
#149 |
| -
Sector Roundup: Banks, Oil Services |
MATTMAN |
Jan-17-08 02:55 PM |
#151 |
| -
Sector Wrap: Homebuilders Mixed |
MATTMAN |
Jan-17-08 02:58 PM |
#152 |
| -
Home Construction Plunged Last Year |
MATTMAN |
Jan-17-08 03:00 PM |
#155 |
| -
Treasurys Rally on Philly Fed Figures |
MATTMAN |
Jan-17-08 03:03 PM |
#156 |
| -
~16:00 ET: Be sure to tune in tomorrow when we discuss "cross-your-heart" vs. underwire... |
Prag |
Jan-17-08 03:07 PM |
#159 |
| -
Closing numbers (minor adjustments) |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 03:10 PM |
#161 |
| -
That's |
AnneD |
Jan-17-08 03:23 PM |
#168 |
| -
here's some redundant cheerless blather to go with those numbers |
UpInArms |
Jan-17-08 03:42 PM |
#173 |
| -
This is the worst part of Big Shitpile. |
ozymandius |
Jan-17-08 03:59 PM |
#176 |
| -
Well, the Repukes got their Domino Theory after all, eh? |
Roland99 |
Jan-17-08 04:08 PM |
#178 |
| -
However: Credit Suisse to expand private bank worldwide |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 04:17 PM |
#181 |
| -
Yep. You pinpointed the moment the markets took a dive today |
Robbien |
Jan-17-08 09:56 PM |
#193 |
| -
Robbien.... |
AnneD |
Jan-18-08 07:50 AM |
#195 |
| -
Wow. It is happening (more on this on the morrow): |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 10:05 PM |
#194 |
| -
Lehman to Cut 1,300 Mortgage Jobs |
MATTMAN |
Jan-17-08 03:09 PM |
#160 |
| -
Lyrics by Van Morrison |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 04:09 PM |
#179 |
| -
Performance: |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 06:14 PM |
#185 |
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Japan Stocks Fall on U.S. Recession Concern, Merrill Lynch Loss |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 06:41 PM |
#187 |
| -
Bank of Japan Will Probably Keep Rate at 0.5% as Growth Slows |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 06:43 PM |
#188 |
| -
Japan Stocks Fall on U.S. Recession Concern, Merrill Lynch Loss |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 09:33 PM |
#191 |
| -
Asian stocks dive anew on U.S. recession fears |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-17-08 09:35 PM |
#192 |
| -
Tons of Steel |
natrat |
Jan-18-08 11:57 AM |
#196 |
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