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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:19 PM
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12. Clinton's deception....
"The former president, speaking Monday at Dartmouth College in Hanover, N.H., had accused Obama of misrepresenting himself on the Iraq war. Clinton suggested that while Obama had spoken out against the war in 2002 while he was an Illinois state senator, Obama had moderated his anti-war stance during his 2004 U.S. Senate campaign..."

This is I believe deceptive. During 2004 convention, Tim Russert asked Obama about his support for two candidates who supported the war, and whether his opposition to the war would hamper his support for them. He responded by trying to defend Kerry and Edwards and said he wasn't privvy to all the information they had and he couldn't say for sure how he would have reacted. This is the fragment Clinton has pounced on. But he left out the next sentence Obama said, where Obama said THE CASE HAS NOT BEEN MADE YET. So, Obama stands up for the Democratic nominees during the convention as best he could....and Clinton takes it out of context to deliberately distort Obama's position.

This, from the man who just recently said he always opposed the iraq war...irony of ironies.

Regardless of how this turns out, I have lost some respect for President Clinton as a result of his distortions.

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  -Bill Clinton: Obama No 'Fairy Tale' jefferson_dem  Jan-11-08 06:05 PM   #0 
  - Gotta Wonder Who Bill Is Actually Going to Vote For  Demeter   Jan-11-08 06:07 PM   #1 
  - Gee Bill, I think what you meant depends on  DJ13   Jan-11-08 06:09 PM   #2 
  - this is just like the non story about Kerry calling the soldiers "dumb"  CatWoman   Jan-11-08 06:17 PM   #3 
     - .  Hillary2008.   Jan-11-08 06:19 PM   #4 
     - It's a nonstory but still a curiosity with regards to former President  Mithreal   Jan-11-08 07:01 PM   #10 
        - Wow, what a post! Such deep thoughts!  KAZ   Jan-11-08 08:26 PM   #19 
           - Thanks for the snarky(?) comment and I will admit to being  Mithreal   Jan-11-08 09:54 PM   #24 
  - I'm sorry folks, but I gotta say that the Big Dog  rateyes   Jan-11-08 06:22 PM   #5 
  - Yeah, well he has a pattern of that  ZinZen   Jan-11-08 06:52 PM   #7 
  - the only people making this out to be a big deal  CatWoman   Jan-11-08 06:53 PM   #9 
     - And there are quite a few who REALLY want it to be a big deal!  karlrschneider   Jan-11-08 07:42 PM   #15 
  - lied about what????  CatWoman   Jan-11-08 06:52 PM   #8 
  - Molehills are only a small sign of what's going on below  Mithreal   Jan-11-08 07:16 PM   #11 
  - So, by your concern, I take it you're a HRC supporter.  KAZ   Jan-11-08 08:32 PM   #20 
     - Not true  Mithreal   Jan-11-08 09:49 PM   #21 
  - Anyone who believes that Clinton didn't mean the  rateyes   Jan-11-08 09:49 PM   #22 
  - Yup. That's up there with current doozies like  JerseygirlCT   Jan-11-08 07:40 PM   #14 
     - He's a politician...  rateyes   Jan-11-08 09:50 PM   #23 
  - Really, Bill?  Mithreal   Jan-11-08 06:49 PM   #6 
  - Clinton's deception....  earthlover   Jan-11-08 07:19 PM   #12 
  - If Bill had always been against the war, what must he have said to Hillary  arewenotdemo   Jan-11-08 08:07 PM   #16 
  - "In light of Hillary winning NH, Obama is a fine man."  tekisui   Jan-11-08 07:37 PM   #13 
  - olbermann played a clip of this--clinton was not referring to obama  orleans   Jan-11-08 08:12 PM   #17 
  - He was elected in Nov 2004  sandnsea   Jan-12-08 02:53 AM   #29 
  - Put a sock in it, Bill  Clanfear   Jan-11-08 08:18 PM   #18 
  - Actually, what he's explaining is exactly how I interpreted the original comment. You seem a bit  Harper_is_Bush   Jan-11-08 11:51 PM   #27 
     - Beautiful post. nt  Skip Intro   Jan-12-08 12:05 AM   #28 
     - I took his comments exactly as he (bill) described them, and don't know how you could to otherwise.  Political Heretic   Jan-12-08 07:43 AM   #30 
  - Can someone please post his original quote in a reply to my message here? n/t  Infinite Hope   Jan-11-08 09:55 PM   #25 
  - And that was the context in which the comment was made. Who's really race baiting here?  Skip Intro   Jan-11-08 11:41 PM   #26 

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