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Wed Dec-26-07 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #14 |
| 98. How "republican" of you |
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Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 01:26 PM by ProudDad
"As far as how single payer health care applies to this case... should there be disqualifications if risky (or high risk), activities are involved (outside of ones occupation or work)?"
Bullshit!!! Who's going to determine what's "high risk" behavior. If I were on the board I'd consider gun ownership very "high risk" behavior -- you may not think so if YOU were on the board...
The only SAFE way to structure Universal Care is EXACTLY THAT -- Universal Care for anything no matter how it happened. Some folks are luckier than others, some are born unluckier than others -- are we a community or not?
"requiring/mandating that skiers have insurance to cover themselves and other skiers in the event of bodily injury or death, would also have made this lawsuit unnecessary."
Great plan for further enriching the health insurance mafia. So only the affluent are allowed health care if they are injured while skiing... How very republican...
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| -Kid suit sets off storm Angry calls, e-mail bury Pa. couple in ski collision case |
RamboLiberal |
Dec-25-07 12:49 AM |
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I have been in a ski accident, |
policypunk |
Dec-25-07 01:44 AM |
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Good, I hope this article will stop |
zalinda |
Dec-25-07 02:20 AM |
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I crashed into a snowboarder while skiing when I was 9. |
Alexander |
Dec-25-07 02:57 AM |
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Don't be ignorant. You must know there are "bunny" slopes for beginners. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-27-07 07:42 AM |
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You're ignorant, passing judgment without knowing the circumstances. |
Alexander |
Dec-27-07 05:54 PM |
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In that case you SIT DOWN. |
Xithras |
Dec-28-07 12:30 PM |
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Looks like a medical insurance case. |
grahamhgreen |
Dec-25-07 03:24 AM |
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Spot On: The best way to end this type of lawsuits is to have single-payer healthcare. |
IndyOp |
Dec-25-07 08:31 AM |
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That might prevent some lawsuits... |
D__S |
Dec-25-07 09:35 AM |
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I don't like "loser pays" at all. It simply... |
TreasonousBastard |
Dec-25-07 09:48 AM |
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If the case is "tricky"... |
D__S |
Dec-25-07 10:21 AM |
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That's why we go to trial. The drycleaner nonsense was... |
TreasonousBastard |
Dec-25-07 10:56 AM |
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You are right. Here is a perfect example. Last year my husband |
JeanGrey |
Dec-26-07 12:33 AM |
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How "republican" of you |
ProudDad |
Dec-26-07 01:25 PM |
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There should never be disqualifications in universal health care |
GirlinContempt |
Dec-28-07 12:40 PM |
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And what if the "single payer" decided not to cover... |
TreasonousBastard |
Dec-25-07 09:43 AM |
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The point is that sp would not be able to decide not to cover |
bean fidhleir |
Dec-25-07 12:13 PM |
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Says who? And what treating doctor? I'm presently "covered" by... |
TreasonousBastard |
Dec-25-07 12:30 PM |
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The VA is not UHC. Jeez! |
bean fidhleir |
Dec-25-07 12:52 PM |
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And so you want that expanded to everyone? Or do you... |
TreasonousBastard |
Dec-25-07 12:55 PM |
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Your thinking seems a bit skewed. |
bean fidhleir |
Dec-26-07 03:52 AM |
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OK, let's have one as good as... |
TreasonousBastard |
Dec-26-07 09:29 AM |
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medicare is FANTASTIC. |
QuestionAll |
Dec-26-07 12:32 PM |
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Medicare is nice, but incomplete. It needs vision and dentistry. |
bean fidhleir |
Dec-26-07 02:41 PM |
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Yes and they will when those bills coming rolling in. |
JeanGrey |
Dec-26-07 12:36 AM |
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I believe you've been listening to the wrong candidates |
nathan hale |
Dec-26-07 01:32 AM |
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Several problems with that... |
TreasonousBastard |
Dec-26-07 02:34 AM |
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Exception noted. |
nathan hale |
Dec-26-07 08:04 AM |
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Single payer: |
GirlinContempt |
Dec-28-07 12:46 PM |
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Then you elect a new CEO of the insurance company. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-26-07 09:54 AM |
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Like the CEO of the country we "elected"? How many would... |
TreasonousBastard |
Dec-26-07 10:03 AM |
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And if his malfeasance was transparently manifest |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-26-07 06:35 PM |
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And where, bunky, do you turn to |
ProudDad |
Dec-26-07 01:35 PM |
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I'm admiring how accountable the governmemt is right now. |
TreasonousBastard |
Dec-27-07 01:56 AM |
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My Social Security Check |
ProudDad |
Dec-28-07 12:19 PM |
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"It's another example of why we need real single-payer healthcare" |
default_to_freedom |
Dec-26-07 05:50 AM |
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oh brother |
LostinVA |
Dec-26-07 09:47 AM |
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exactly. |
QuestionAll |
Dec-26-07 12:34 PM |
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You should get rid of that "me first, me now" attitude. Many of society's problems stem from that. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-26-07 01:12 PM |
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Yes, you should. |
GirlinContempt |
Dec-28-07 12:48 PM |
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Parents are responsible for having their children trained properly to ski. Crowded hills are |
truthisfreedom |
Dec-25-07 03:58 AM |
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Baloney.... |
ClintonTyree |
Dec-25-07 06:05 AM |
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Name removed |
Dec-25-07 07:25 AM |
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There is risky behavior, and risky behavior. Yes skiing can be |
JeanGrey |
Dec-26-07 12:42 AM |
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This is crap! |
djg21 |
Dec-26-07 10:37 PM |
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Where the hell........ |
ClintonTyree |
Dec-27-07 04:34 AM |
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I'm married to a skier/former ski instructor who has had his share of spills. Yes, skiing is an |
WinkyDink |
Dec-27-07 07:47 AM |
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I tend to agree with your very reasonable post. If it were my |
JeanGrey |
Dec-26-07 12:41 AM |
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In what court is an 8-yr-old held legally culpable? n/t |
DRoseDARs |
Dec-25-07 06:58 AM |
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Parents will be responsible. |
JeanGrey |
Dec-26-07 12:43 AM |
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The kid was only 7 at the time of the collision. |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 02:04 AM |
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Parents are responsible for the actions of their children |
Pavulon |
Dec-25-07 07:32 AM |
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Yes. Parents have paid the piper for a lot older children than |
JeanGrey |
Dec-26-07 12:44 AM |
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Not under the Common Law, which is in the still the law in most states. |
happyslug |
Dec-28-07 07:30 AM |
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Implied risk? |
northshore |
Dec-25-07 08:25 AM |
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My son was paralyzed from midchest down in a ski accident |
RadFemFL |
Dec-25-07 08:36 AM |
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Kudos to your son. It takes a LOT of guts and character to |
JeanGrey |
Dec-26-07 12:46 AM |
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totally different scenario... |
QuestionAll |
Dec-26-07 12:25 PM |
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The injured man apparently... |
CBHagman |
Dec-25-07 09:29 AM |
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Well if I had $35K in medical bills because of what someone else did |
proud2Blib |
Dec-25-07 09:40 AM |
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they can afford to go skiing which is more than most people in the world |
Mend |
Dec-25-07 11:00 AM |
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So just because they can afford it they shouldn't sue? |
proud2Blib |
Dec-25-07 11:35 AM |
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in my opinion, yes, do not sue...there is enough grief in this world. Reassure |
Mend |
Dec-25-07 11:47 AM |
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A kid should also be taught that when you make a mistake you fix it |
proud2Blib |
Dec-25-07 11:49 AM |
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The kid was seven at the time of the collision. |
lizzy |
Dec-25-07 12:14 PM |
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He sounds like a prince |
Yuugal |
Dec-26-07 04:06 AM |
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That's the FATHER'S story |
Tempest |
Dec-26-07 01:17 PM |
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? |
CONN |
Dec-26-07 10:19 AM |
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And who's gonna pay the medical bills? |
Girlieman |
Dec-28-07 01:04 PM |
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EXACTLY!!!! |
joeglow3 |
Dec-26-07 12:06 AM |
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If he had a pre existing torn rotator cuff I doubt seriously |
JeanGrey |
Dec-26-07 12:47 AM |
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depends on the size of the tear...it is very common and quite a few major |
Mend |
Dec-26-07 04:17 PM |
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the kid and his parents obviously can afford to go skiing as well..... |
Darth_Kitten |
Dec-27-07 05:43 PM |
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This guy wants the boy (or his family) to pay |
lizzy |
Dec-25-07 12:10 PM |
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The guy wants his wife compensated for taking care of him. |
lizzy |
Dec-25-07 12:16 PM |
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You'd sue a child?! |
krabigirl |
Dec-25-07 06:39 PM |
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The lawsuit is wrong |
ejbr |
Dec-25-07 10:01 AM |
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i'm sure the parents are named defendants |
Magic Rat |
Dec-25-07 10:54 AM |
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Well, aren't you the smart one? |
lizzy |
Dec-25-07 12:07 PM |
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No, you're obviously the smart one |
ejbr |
Dec-25-07 12:12 PM |
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It's rather obvious you haven't got any kids. |
lizzy |
Dec-25-07 12:13 PM |
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And you keep your unaccountable brats away from me. n/t |
ejbr |
Dec-25-07 07:41 PM |
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Well, that should be easy enough. |
lizzy |
Dec-25-07 11:06 PM |
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That's right, I'm an ogre |
ejbr |
Dec-26-07 12:15 PM |
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The kid was seven at the time, or maybe you missed that part. |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 01:29 PM |
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Are you dense? |
ejbr |
Dec-26-07 01:43 PM |
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Maybe not dense |
Tempest |
Dec-26-07 02:00 PM |
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And that is just a big fat bunch of baloney. |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 02:28 PM |
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not everyone who has children is not mindful of others as well |
orleans |
Dec-26-07 12:26 AM |
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O'key. |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 12:41 AM |
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well, let's see...in answer to your question |
orleans |
Dec-26-07 02:26 AM |
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What do I think? |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 08:58 AM |
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I agree |
ejbr |
Dec-26-07 12:25 PM |
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i also read in one of these links to this story that the kid was three feet |
orleans |
Dec-26-07 01:26 PM |
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incredible n/t |
ejbr |
Dec-26-07 01:44 PM |
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I don't think |
GirlinContempt |
Dec-28-07 01:37 PM |
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Skiing is a very dangerous |
downindixie |
Dec-25-07 11:00 AM |
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Read the articles. |
CBHagman |
Dec-25-07 01:17 PM |
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I've read the articles. |
lizzy |
Dec-25-07 01:54 PM |
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The boy's mother thinks the man he injured should be |
JeanGrey |
Dec-26-07 12:49 AM |
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I don't think an upset mother |
GirlinContempt |
Dec-28-07 01:24 PM |
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day-yum -- looks like some DUERS would have the guy ''drawn and quatered'' too. |
xchrom |
Dec-25-07 05:02 PM |
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I gave this a REC, because it is one of the many problems with this country. |
sarcasmo |
Dec-25-07 06:05 PM |
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out of control skiers/riders a re a big problem. Parents should have done all they could have to |
wordpix |
Dec-25-07 06:47 PM |
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The kid is 8. He can't be sued under Co law because he is |
lizzy |
Dec-25-07 11:07 PM |
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Takes a real big man to tackle down a 7 year old boy. |
Nailzberg |
Dec-25-07 11:53 PM |
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If the man did actually grab the kid, |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 12:06 AM |
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The only one making the accusation is the father |
Tempest |
Dec-26-07 01:21 PM |
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Unless you know of somebody else contradicting the father on this, |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 01:33 PM |
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I've seen it before |
Tempest |
Dec-26-07 01:47 PM |
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I can only go by what I read in an article. |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 02:45 PM |
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You don't sue the kid. You sue their parents. I've been surprised |
JeanGrey |
Dec-26-07 12:23 AM |
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maybe in this case his lawyer advised him to put the child in the |
orleans |
Dec-26-07 12:28 AM |
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Yet other articles claimed the minors can not be sued under Co |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 12:33 AM |
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Yeah I did some surfing and saw that. Apparently under |
JeanGrey |
Dec-26-07 12:55 AM |
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Nah. Why doesn't the 8 year old just get a job? |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 12:58 AM |
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What does that have to do with anything? |
JeanGrey |
Dec-26-07 01:38 AM |
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I really don't know why the 15 year old son of your friend |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 01:44 AM |
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If you are in a store, and somebody's minor child slams |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 12:31 AM |
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so you think this man in the article should sue the ski resort? n/t |
orleans |
Dec-26-07 02:41 AM |
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Well, somebody should correct me if I am wrong, but aren't |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 09:00 AM |
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Yep. |
Xithras |
Dec-28-07 12:21 PM |
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We learned in law school the first year |
treestar |
Dec-26-07 12:28 PM |
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Have you actually gone to law school? |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 01:23 PM |
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Law School is not a place where you learn the specific statutes of Colorado |
treestar |
Dec-27-07 09:56 AM |
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Anyone who has ever been hit by an out of control kid on a ski slope |
stubtoe |
Dec-26-07 01:03 PM |
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very true. |
antifaschits |
Dec-26-07 02:02 PM |
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So we have ... |
CONN |
Dec-26-07 01:07 PM |
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Did he actually grab the kid? |
Tempest |
Dec-26-07 01:22 PM |
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I have no clue as to how many people you would expect to make |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 01:25 PM |
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How do you know he witnessed it? |
Tempest |
Dec-26-07 01:48 PM |
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You think the father is a liar? |
CONN |
Dec-26-07 01:46 PM |
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They could both be lying |
Tempest |
Dec-26-07 01:50 PM |
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Yes they both could be lying. |
CONN |
Dec-26-07 01:54 PM |
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Counter sue for mental damages? |
Tempest |
Dec-26-07 01:58 PM |
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many years ago, when I had no fear, I was teaching a friend how to ski. |
antifaschits |
Dec-26-07 01:58 PM |
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Just out of curiosity, WTF do you think your friend could |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 02:22 PM |
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actually, |
antifaschits |
Dec-26-07 02:40 PM |
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I can't support this lawsuit. |
galileo3000 |
Dec-26-07 06:57 PM |
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Redress of grievances IS a "worthy" use "of the court's time." Sorry. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-27-07 07:49 AM |
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Amen. That's what they're paid to do. |
Girlieman |
Dec-28-07 01:05 PM |
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Opportunistic Retalitory Litugation is very bad for America! |
galileo3000 |
Dec-27-07 10:53 AM |
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Did it occur to anyone that the lawsuit may be REQUIRED? |
Xithras |
Dec-28-07 12:49 PM |
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A Small Price to Pay |
Girlieman |
Dec-28-07 01:01 PM |
#140 |
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