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Sat Dec-08-07 11:45 AM
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| -Imam's daughter in hiding after her conversion to Christianity sparked death threats |
seriousstan |
Dec-08-07 11:14 AM |
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Pick a religion, any religion-the fanatics are the same. |
hobbit709 |
Dec-08-07 11:15 AM |
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Bullshit. Start citing examples where holy texts state that converting to another religion is |
seriousstan |
Dec-08-07 11:20 AM |
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Nothing to do with holy texts |
hobbit709 |
Dec-08-07 11:26 AM |
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That was hundreds of years ago. |
pennylane100 |
Dec-08-07 11:41 AM |
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One response-Abortion clinic bombers. |
hobbit709 |
Dec-08-07 11:43 AM |
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We are talking about a religion that calls for the death of those who leave it. |
seriousstan |
Dec-08-07 11:58 AM |
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The Koran doesn't call for it. |
yibbehobba |
Dec-10-07 08:27 AM |
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I agree that abortion clinic bombers are fanatic killers |
pennylane100 |
Dec-08-07 11:59 AM |
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How many muslim countries can you name |
CJCRANE |
Dec-08-07 12:11 PM |
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and that has to do with what? |
pennylane100 |
Dec-08-07 12:24 PM |
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It's important because I think you're generalising. |
CJCRANE |
Dec-08-07 12:28 PM |
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Ask the nineteen year old woman who has just been sentenced to 200 lashes |
pennylane100 |
Dec-08-07 12:38 PM |
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There are 56 muslim majority countries*. |
CJCRANE |
Dec-08-07 12:47 PM |
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In Egypt, converts to Christianity are imprisoned. |
JDPriestly |
Dec-08-07 04:32 PM |
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The difference is that Sharia law |
leftynyc |
Dec-08-07 05:03 PM |
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Which is why we must keep Church and State separate... |
GoddessOfGuinness |
Dec-08-07 08:14 PM |
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There are idiots aplenty who would love to see Britain under Sharia law. |
yibbehobba |
Dec-10-07 08:08 AM |
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Exactly! |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-12-07 09:39 AM |
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No it's not. As per my post above |
CJCRANE |
Dec-08-07 12:10 PM |
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Name the other major religions. No major religions? Name the minor non-islamic religions. |
seriousstan |
Dec-08-07 12:12 PM |
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I already named two major religions. |
CJCRANE |
Dec-08-07 12:16 PM |
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All making those threats should be deported back to original country |
LiberalFighter |
Dec-08-07 01:26 PM |
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I agree with your last sentence |
treestar |
Dec-09-07 01:19 PM |
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Not to defend barbarity, but I think you are forgetting the religious strife of N. Ireland. |
tom_paine |
Dec-10-07 08:06 AM |
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That was more of a war over turf not simply on faith |
Marrah_G |
Dec-10-07 10:23 AM |
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Nowhere in the New Testament is violence against non-believers encouraged. |
Zynx |
Dec-08-07 11:46 AM |
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Notice how all these fundie so-called Christians |
hobbit709 |
Dec-08-07 12:02 PM |
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You really have a hard time concentrating,don't you? ADD? |
seriousstan |
Dec-08-07 12:07 PM |
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You can't comprehend what I said |
hobbit709 |
Dec-08-07 12:15 PM |
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I've personally met so-called "mainstream" non-fundie christians |
kgfnally |
Dec-08-07 12:23 PM |
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that doesn't sound like any of the mainstream Christians I know |
dwickham |
Dec-11-07 11:15 PM |
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Oh horsecrap - Maybe a Fred Phelps type - That's about it. |
pegleg |
Dec-08-07 03:58 PM |
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Paul of Tarsus was quite a bigot, and the Book of Revelation is a book of revenge |
IndianaGreen |
Dec-08-07 10:09 PM |
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Dec-11-07 01:11 PM |
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There is the cultural element too. |
CJCRANE |
Dec-08-07 11:32 AM |
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ALL religions put women down, keep women down |
donsu |
Dec-08-07 11:37 AM |
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There is a huge difference between putting someone down and FUCKING KILLING THEM! |
seriousstan |
Dec-08-07 11:56 AM |
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I'll be sure to tell my female pastor that |
spoony |
Dec-10-07 07:15 AM |
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NO-- All religions DO NOT |
Marrah_G |
Dec-10-07 10:42 AM |
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Dec-08-07 04:54 PM |
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Dec-08-07 05:12 PM |
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This is not generally true of Islam |
Oak2004 |
Dec-10-07 12:32 PM |
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Abortion Doctor Killings, |
Taverner |
Dec-10-07 12:44 PM |
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I changed religion at the age of 17-18. My parents were |
JDPriestly |
Dec-08-07 04:24 PM |
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You need to hear more... |
dmallind |
Dec-08-07 07:58 PM |
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So atheism is a religion when it's convenient, then? |
spoony |
Dec-10-07 07:16 AM |
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...or a philosophy, or a political position, or even a hobby |
LanternWaste |
Dec-10-07 07:57 AM |
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don't let the religiously insane men get away with this crap |
donsu |
Dec-08-07 11:16 AM |
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This is some pretty sick shit. |
Lasher |
Dec-08-07 11:20 AM |
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Of course it's all against the law |
PaulaFarrell |
Dec-08-07 11:58 AM |
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OK thanks Paula |
Lasher |
Dec-08-07 01:44 PM |
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DU believers take note: THIS is anti-Christian persecution |
dmallind |
Dec-08-07 11:42 AM |
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??? |
brentspeak |
Dec-08-07 12:17 PM |
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Well that would be one question |
dmallind |
Dec-08-07 12:49 PM |
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Christians have been at the forefront of persecution, intolerance, and holocausts |
IndianaGreen |
Dec-08-07 10:07 PM |
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Ok. I'll keep my mouth shut if I ever witness.. |
LanternWaste |
Dec-10-07 10:52 AM |
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Sad. n/t |
ChazII |
Dec-08-07 11:45 AM |
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Primitive tribal crap |
kurth |
Dec-08-07 01:22 PM |
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Send them back. |
Heywoodj |
Dec-08-07 10:02 PM |
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UK law certainly provides for serious criminals from abroad being deported after their sentences |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-09-07 11:08 AM |
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A young Palestinian woman living in St Louis was killed |
ikojo |
Dec-09-07 09:57 AM |
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And we're letting shit like that into our country |
kurth |
Dec-09-07 10:50 AM |
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I remember that - so sad. |
bitchkitty |
Dec-10-07 10:38 AM |
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it's just a minority guys |
boricua79 |
Dec-08-07 01:24 PM |
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It's not a minority |
nebula |
Dec-08-07 03:38 PM |
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finally someone notices it |
boricua79 |
Dec-08-07 11:44 PM |
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The question is: how constructive is it for outsiders like us to call for reform/enlightenment? |
JVS |
Dec-09-07 10:16 AM |
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I see your point, however, |
leftynyc |
Dec-10-07 07:10 AM |
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I would say that the other option is to look for voices within their society that speak out... |
JVS |
Dec-10-07 05:05 PM |
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I don't think of myself as an 'outsider'. I'm a woman caring about other women |
donsu |
Dec-10-07 11:51 AM |
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Well middle-eastern muslims almost certainly would consider you an outsider. |
JVS |
Dec-10-07 05:04 PM |
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Who could blame her for converting to any religion or non-religion |
Dorian Gray |
Dec-08-07 03:17 PM |
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Religion, the real reason we fight Wars. |
sarcasmo |
Dec-08-07 03:46 PM |
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So atheistic nations don't fight wars ? |
pegleg |
Dec-08-07 03:54 PM |
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Say instead Religion is one of the primary excuses - |
haele |
Dec-09-07 01:11 PM |
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Land and resources. |
Marrah_G |
Dec-10-07 10:42 AM |
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This is a disgusting situation |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-08-07 04:27 PM |
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Sounds like her family has some issues. |
Turbineguy |
Dec-08-07 04:42 PM |
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And the Imam and this womans brother are not in jail because??? |
rpannier |
Dec-08-07 06:16 PM |
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Islam is very hardcore on people leaving the fold. |
hollowdweller |
Dec-08-07 06:17 PM |
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"Significant minority." |
yibbehobba |
Dec-10-07 08:32 AM |
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All muslim scholars I tried to argue with avoid this question like hell : |
UndertheOcean |
Dec-08-07 07:12 PM |
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I hope she stays safe |
SillyFlower |
Dec-08-07 08:12 PM |
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Dec-08-07 08:57 PM |
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Christians won't call for her death if she decides to leave that religion. |
seriousstan |
Dec-08-07 09:25 PM |
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You really go out of your way to promote the democratic party cause |
eagler |
Dec-08-07 10:57 PM |
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"equally deplorable religion".... |
India3 |
Dec-08-07 11:26 PM |
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But maybe that's because of the differences in the cultures |
treestar |
Dec-09-07 01:27 PM |
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You make one good point, and one weak one... |
India3 |
Dec-09-07 02:53 PM |
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We're not talking about Muslims in a Muslim country. |
yibbehobba |
Dec-10-07 08:17 AM |
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The F bomb really makes your point, doesn't it? |
treestar |
Dec-10-07 09:00 AM |
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This isn't a Muslim (or otherwise religious) country |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-10-07 03:53 PM |
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The replies to these threads are so predictable. |
cigsandcoffee |
Dec-09-07 01:17 AM |
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Well said |
SillyFlower |
Dec-09-07 08:09 AM |
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pc crowd needs "rose colored glasses" to ignore the obvious |
ohio2007 |
Dec-09-07 08:27 AM |
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I totally agree with you on all the PC bullshit. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-09-07 05:29 PM |
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Well said |
rpannier |
Dec-10-07 03:53 AM |
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Bravo and amen |
leftynyc |
Dec-10-07 07:17 AM |
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"A special problem". |
mainegreen |
Dec-10-07 11:05 AM |
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Isn't this the kind of thing that Pope Benedict XVI was talking about when people got super-pissed? |
JVS |
Dec-09-07 10:12 AM |
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No, he wasn't talking about anything specific at all |
treestar |
Dec-09-07 01:29 PM |
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Right now, Islam is "worse" than other religions. |
cigsandcoffee |
Dec-09-07 02:25 PM |
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It's still not worth condemning the whole religion over |
treestar |
Dec-09-07 06:01 PM |
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Nobody is "condemning the whole religion." |
cigsandcoffee |
Dec-09-07 07:31 PM |
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Somali Women: 'We don't want any Christians and Ethiopians inside our country |
ohio2007 |
Dec-09-07 07:43 PM |
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I think you are trying to imply one religion is worse than others |
treestar |
Dec-10-07 08:57 AM |
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The Dominionist bit is a red herring. |
cigsandcoffee |
Dec-11-07 11:11 PM |
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Yes. It IS worse. But not by any merits of Christianity, mind you. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-10-07 08:42 AM |
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I'm curious. Why go hard after Christianity while sticking up for Islam? |
cigsandcoffee |
Dec-11-07 11:05 PM |
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"Sticking up?" Obvious moderation? Openly hostile? Chip on shoulder much? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-17-07 07:40 AM |
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Right. Sure it did. |
theredpen |
Dec-17-07 02:10 PM |
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Can he not be arrested for stalking or threats or something? |
Marrah_G |
Dec-10-07 10:17 AM |
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Yes. He can. And very likely will. |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-10-07 03:57 PM |
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And now in Canada... |
cigsandcoffee |
Dec-11-07 11:03 PM |
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Yes, but Christianity is much worse!* |
DuStrange |
Dec-17-07 11:28 AM |
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Islam may not be a religion of violence |
dwickham |
Dec-11-07 11:16 PM |
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How many Muslims live in the UK? And... |
High Plains |
Dec-17-07 02:19 PM |
#116 |
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