| -CHAVEZ LOSES VENEZUELA VOTE ON POWERS |
Psephos |
Dec-02-07 11:42 PM |
#0 |
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maybe he can call Vladimir Putin & Karl Rove in to help with a recount nt |
msongs |
Dec-02-07 11:46 PM |
#1 |
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Actually he's saying a recount would be bad for the country and is not worth it. |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Dec-02-07 11:55 PM |
#12 |
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Wow. That says a LOT about Chavez's integrity. |
Impeachment_Monkey |
Dec-03-07 12:05 AM |
#16 |
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It was a very conciliatory and humble speech. n/t |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Dec-03-07 12:08 AM |
#19 |
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Personally, I think this loss will be very good for him |
Yupster |
Dec-03-07 02:06 AM |
#66 |
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Definately. It's what the people wantedn/t |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Dec-03-07 06:32 AM |
#93 |
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Is this what our tax dollars bought us in Venezuela? |
personman |
Dec-03-07 04:08 PM |
#164 |
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We bought some very nice looking flyers that told the people |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-04-07 07:41 AM |
#179 |
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we've given Ven. millions in development AID and military aid |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-05-07 02:53 PM |
#217 |
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They won't. But I do. |
aquart |
Dec-03-07 05:44 AM |
#87 |
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If only shrub was aware of that... n/t |
usaftmo |
Dec-03-07 05:19 AM |
#84 |
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That's a classy move on his part |
ChavezSpeakstheTruth |
Dec-03-07 09:21 AM |
#122 |
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How are you doing? It's been a while. n/t |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Dec-03-07 09:27 AM |
#124 |
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Been doing quite well |
ChavezSpeakstheTruth |
Dec-03-07 09:51 AM |
#126 |
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Can't complain. I left Ohio for Chicago and I don't have a single regret on that. n/t |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Dec-03-07 11:03 AM |
#139 |
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Well, if he would have had a system like ours (US Supreme Court, signing statements, etc...), you |
IsItJustMe |
Dec-03-07 08:38 AM |
#109 |
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What about the constitutional changes? Are they still counting that initiative yet? |
Massacure |
Dec-02-07 11:47 PM |
#2 |
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That's the vote. They are still reporting votes, but the matter seems settled. |
L. Coyote |
Dec-02-07 11:56 PM |
#13 |
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:( n/t |
bitchkitty |
Dec-02-07 11:47 PM |
#3 |
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Good, a demagogue is a demagogue |
Alhena |
Dec-02-07 11:48 PM |
#4 |
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But compared to Bush how does he look? |
cartach |
Dec-03-07 12:10 AM |
#20 |
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Bush will be gone in a year |
Yupster |
Dec-03-07 02:06 AM |
#67 |
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8 years wasted |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-03-07 10:04 AM |
#133 |
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Jesus, what type of logic is this? |
ButterflyBlood |
Dec-04-07 09:46 PM |
#194 |
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I am a big fan of sovereignty and self determination for all countries. |
ronnie624 |
Dec-03-07 12:13 AM |
#22 |
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"for some reason" I like the idea of dedicating the resources of a country |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-03-07 03:52 AM |
#74 |
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Yes, but don't you see how short ,how very tiny, a step it is |
JerseygirlCT |
Dec-03-07 08:38 AM |
#110 |
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oh blah blah blah -- "mad"?? give me a friggin break |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-03-07 12:00 PM |
#148 |
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And apparently, the people made a decision that they didn't |
JerseygirlCT |
Dec-03-07 12:56 PM |
#154 |
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I agree. Power-hungry people appear on the left and the right |
JerseygirlCT |
Dec-03-07 08:36 AM |
#107 |
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What's important about Hugo is that he successfully resisted the Washington Consensus |
Ken Burch |
Dec-03-07 11:20 AM |
#142 |
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by taking money from him instead? |
northzax |
Dec-05-07 03:10 PM |
#219 |
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What a pantload! |
Webster Green |
Dec-03-07 11:48 AM |
#145 |
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Oh, good grief! What an ill-informed statement. |
Ignis |
Dec-03-07 01:56 PM |
#161 |
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Looks like Chavez had better begin grooming someone to replace him. |
Impeachment_Monkey |
Dec-02-07 11:50 PM |
#5 |
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yeah, that's the sad part |
boricua79 |
Dec-03-07 06:26 AM |
#91 |
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I never understood why they were bundled into a package. |
mycritters2 |
Dec-05-07 12:44 PM |
#209 |
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Exactly, Chavez doesn't have to be the head of the |
pokercat999 |
Dec-05-07 07:09 AM |
#198 |
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God forbid allow the voters to decide ... SHAME |
DemKR |
Dec-02-07 11:50 PM |
#6 |
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Great lesson on democracy some day we'll learn from it |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-02-07 11:54 PM |
#11 |
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amen!!!!!!! |
IsItJustMe |
Dec-03-07 08:40 AM |
#111 |
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The voters did decide. They don't seem to want this. |
Alexander |
Dec-03-07 02:38 AM |
#69 |
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They just DID decide, actually. nt |
Codeine |
Dec-03-07 06:41 AM |
#94 |
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I love the smell of sulphur first thing in the morning |
AmanAplan |
Dec-02-07 11:51 PM |
#7 |
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WTF? |
provis99 |
Dec-02-07 11:54 PM |
#9 |
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For RE-WRITING the country's Constitution, you need a VAST majority. |
Alexander |
Dec-03-07 02:40 AM |
#70 |
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Not all countries are the US... |
arcos |
Dec-03-07 04:18 AM |
#76 |
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Does the term "tyranny of the majority" ring a bell? |
hack89 |
Dec-03-07 05:47 AM |
#89 |
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Reminds me of what FDR said |
Holland |
Dec-03-07 08:48 AM |
#115 |
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the thing is that if he really wants to rule,well...he is not going to go swiftly into the limelight |
flordehinojos |
Dec-02-07 11:51 PM |
#8 |
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Chavez loses referendum on presidential term limits |
HughMoran |
Dec-02-07 11:54 PM |
#10 |
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More great reporting |
Andrushka |
Dec-03-07 12:50 AM |
#40 |
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If it happened here, we'd be most obsessed about the term-limits issue |
HughMoran |
Dec-03-07 12:54 AM |
#41 |
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No |
Andrushka |
Dec-03-07 12:56 AM |
#45 |
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I disagree |
HughMoran |
Dec-03-07 01:03 AM |
#55 |
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Who was it saying that about FDR again? |
leftist_not_liberal |
Dec-03-07 07:43 AM |
#96 |
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Dunno and irrelevant |
HughMoran |
Dec-03-07 09:00 AM |
#120 |
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Are you saying the same about parliamentary systems |
leftist_not_liberal |
Dec-03-07 10:01 AM |
#130 |
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The current leaders in those countries did not try to change the game midstream |
HughMoran |
Dec-03-07 10:17 AM |
#135 |
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He was voted in to "change the game" |
leftist_not_liberal |
Dec-03-07 10:52 AM |
#137 |
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I am a long-time Chavez supporter here on DU |
HughMoran |
Dec-03-07 11:11 AM |
#140 |
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How's that projection working out for you generally? |
leftist_not_liberal |
Dec-03-07 11:21 AM |
#143 |
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Glad we can end this here... |
HughMoran |
Dec-03-07 11:28 AM |
#144 |
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He's telling the opposition to celebrate and to do it in a healthy manner and |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Dec-02-07 11:59 PM |
#14 |
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And now we will find out the truth about him. |
aquart |
Dec-03-07 12:03 AM |
#15 |
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yeah!..... that dictator from the south |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-03-07 12:06 AM |
#18 |
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Chavez is already being conciliatory. Did you read the posts above? |
Impeachment_Monkey |
Dec-03-07 12:12 AM |
#21 |
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Yup, respectful |
Yupster |
Dec-03-07 02:11 AM |
#68 |
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Yep, showed a lot of class on his part. |
IsItJustMe |
Dec-03-07 08:45 AM |
#112 |
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"We are all Venezuelans whether you voted YES or NO. I do hope to |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Dec-03-07 12:05 AM |
#17 |
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a few days ago, he was calling opponents traitors |
dwickham |
Dec-03-07 12:29 AM |
#28 |
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opponents traitors? |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-03-07 12:31 AM |
#29 |
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And it still begs the question |
rpannier |
Dec-03-07 03:00 AM |
#72 |
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YES INDEED. WHAT YOU SAID. |
leftist_not_liberal |
Dec-03-07 07:45 AM |
#97 |
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creating a mirror of America in Latin America have not.... |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-03-07 09:53 AM |
#128 |
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He was also calling the students spoiled brats. |
MADem |
Dec-03-07 04:53 AM |
#81 |
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Private schools in Venezuela are expensive |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-03-07 10:03 AM |
#132 |
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VZ has public universities as well. |
MADem |
Dec-03-07 10:58 AM |
#138 |
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I have not seen a student leader from the public schools, do you? |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-03-07 05:54 PM |
#165 |
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Yes. One from Central was featured in a NYT piece. Another named "Stalin" from the WAPO |
MADem |
Dec-03-07 07:18 PM |
#169 |
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excellent point - when i was a college student i convinced my lifelong R father to go D, & stay D |
bushmeat |
Dec-03-07 12:17 PM |
#152 |
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A lot of the opposition came from slum kids who are going to public university. |
MADem |
Dec-03-07 07:23 PM |
#170 |
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What are the Obama supporters calling the rest of us? |
aquart |
Dec-03-07 05:45 AM |
#88 |
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NY TIMES: Venezuela Hands Narrow Defeat to Chávez Plan |
L. Coyote |
Dec-03-07 12:16 AM |
#23 |
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Chavez |
spag68 |
Dec-03-07 12:41 AM |
#37 |
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Such profundity - I'm stunned! n/t |
bitchkitty |
Dec-06-07 06:44 AM |
#255 |
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Funny how quiet the Saint Chavez group is. I guess they have the earlier |
seriousstan |
Dec-03-07 12:25 AM |
#24 |
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Oh you want Pro Chavez folks to be all like "it was fixed by the CIA!!!11!"? |
rAVES |
Dec-03-07 12:29 AM |
#27 |
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Talk about "Sore Winners" .. this one takes the cake. |
Impeachment_Monkey |
Dec-03-07 12:33 AM |
#33 |
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Are the comedy writers still on strike? |
StClone |
Dec-03-07 01:14 AM |
#58 |
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Kind of surprised |
George Nassar |
Dec-03-07 01:22 AM |
#61 |
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NO one, not even Chavez, is contesting the accuracy of the vote. |
Impeachment_Monkey |
Dec-03-07 12:32 AM |
#30 |
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Actually this is a defeat for the anti-Chavez crowd |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-03-07 12:37 AM |
#36 |
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Well, I'd love to agree with you, but the REAL wannabe dictators may be going for jugular |
Impeachment_Monkey |
Dec-03-07 01:24 AM |
#62 |
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You have no idea |
StClone |
Dec-03-07 01:19 AM |
#60 |
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I'm usually pretty quiet when I'm sleeping. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-03-07 04:47 AM |
#80 |
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I think a lot of the "St. Chavez" people, as you call them, |
Zorra |
Dec-03-07 08:13 AM |
#105 |
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I'm glad that he hasn't called for a recount |
ChavezSpeakstheTruth |
Dec-03-07 09:22 AM |
#123 |
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How Serious can you be Stan ??? ... |
CRH |
Dec-03-07 09:50 AM |
#125 |
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Funny How You Throw out the "Saint Chavez Group" Meme |
fascisthunter |
Dec-03-07 12:05 PM |
#149 |
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Hang on.. how do you loose a fixed election? He's a dictator right? these polls where just BS no? |
rAVES |
Dec-03-07 12:26 AM |
#25 |
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You have a true observation there. For Chavez to lose, the elections |
seriousstan |
Dec-03-07 12:35 AM |
#35 |
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EXIT POLLS: All three say YES to Venezuelan constitutional referendum |
L. Coyote |
Dec-03-07 12:26 AM |
#26 |
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Exit polls are crap. It's about time we accepted that fact. |
Common Sense Party |
Dec-03-07 12:32 AM |
#31 |
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This sentence stands out like a very sore thumb |
MADem |
Dec-03-07 04:57 AM |
#83 |
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Chavez should just seize power like Bush does, what's with this voting bullshit... |
grytpype |
Dec-03-07 12:32 AM |
#32 |
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Bush should learn a lesson in democracy from Chavez. |
grytpype |
Dec-03-07 12:35 AM |
#34 |
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I think that is a big part of what Chavez is doing, sending a message |
harun |
Dec-03-07 08:31 AM |
#106 |
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Link here to Australian ABC |
Matilda |
Dec-03-07 12:46 AM |
#38 |
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Phew. I feel safer already. |
devilgrrl |
Dec-03-07 12:48 AM |
#39 |
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Yep, I do to. Time to turn on the 700 Hundred Club. After that I think I will see whats on FAUX. |
IsItJustMe |
Dec-03-07 08:47 AM |
#113 |
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Damn...I guess it IS a democracy. Does that mean we can't invade them? |
Hulk |
Dec-03-07 12:54 AM |
#42 |
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They might be pulling their hair now |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-03-07 01:01 AM |
#48 |
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Nay, not at all. We will just have to go back to the drawing board and find some new ways to |
IsItJustMe |
Dec-03-07 08:52 AM |
#117 |
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When he start giving oil money to the poor communities |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-03-07 09:58 AM |
#129 |
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Speaking as a "pro-Chavez" poster... |
David__77 |
Dec-03-07 12:55 AM |
#43 |
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Good Plan. |
Ghost Dog |
Dec-03-07 03:08 AM |
#73 |
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His is an international project |
leftist_not_liberal |
Dec-03-07 07:54 AM |
#100 |
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Good post, ... |
CRH |
Dec-03-07 11:15 AM |
#141 |
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Well, I'll be waiting "he's a dictator" |
GeneCosta |
Dec-03-07 12:55 AM |
#44 |
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Actually this makes Chavez look good |
fujiyama |
Dec-03-07 12:57 AM |
#46 |
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Chavez is a democrat. |
David__77 |
Dec-03-07 01:01 AM |
#47 |
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Ah |
Andrushka |
Dec-03-07 01:03 AM |
#56 |
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Viva Chavez |
GeneCosta |
Dec-03-07 01:02 AM |
#49 |
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Yanqui go home! |
RedCloud |
Dec-04-07 01:48 PM |
#188 |
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Voters reject Chavez's referendum |
whopis01 |
Dec-03-07 01:02 AM |
#50 |
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dupe |
L. Coyote |
Dec-03-07 01:02 AM |
#51 |
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Thank God!!!! |
MADem |
Dec-03-07 01:02 AM |
#52 |
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I was for it if THEY supported it...and I'm for it if they voted it down! |
Hulk |
Dec-03-07 01:03 AM |
#53 |
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You mean |
StClone |
Dec-03-07 01:03 AM |
#54 |
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LOL @ the people who said these changes |
Socal31 |
Dec-03-07 01:14 AM |
#57 |
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What about the people who called Chavez a dicator |
GeneCosta |
Dec-03-07 01:18 AM |
#59 |
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Part of them are watching FAUX and the other part of them are spaming DU today with their silly |
IsItJustMe |
Dec-03-07 08:57 AM |
#119 |
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Heh? You mean it ISN'T? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-03-07 07:59 AM |
#102 |
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Luckily, we appear to have either overestimated Chavez... |
ALiberalSailor |
Dec-03-07 01:38 AM |
#63 |
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Not President for Life? |
onehandle |
Dec-03-07 01:53 AM |
#64 |
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I feel a lot better about him now. |
Spiffarino |
Dec-03-07 02:03 AM |
#65 |
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The defeat probably has just as much to do with the sheer number of initiatives on one ballot |
rpannier |
Dec-03-07 02:53 AM |
#71 |
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Better keep an eye on this ruthless little fascist. |
leaninglib |
Dec-03-07 04:13 AM |
#75 |
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Got any evidence to back that up? |
High Plains |
Dec-03-07 09:53 AM |
#127 |
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How glib, and inaccurate, ... |
CRH |
Dec-03-07 11:50 AM |
#146 |
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Oh, puhleeeeeze. Why don't you just SHUT UP? |
bitchkitty |
Dec-06-07 06:58 AM |
#256 |
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As someone who has been against Chavez all along |
boloboffin |
Dec-03-07 04:19 AM |
#77 |
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I smell another fixed election, courtesy of Uncle Samco |
sss1977 |
Dec-03-07 04:35 AM |
#78 |
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CIA, MI6, ISI, and the KGB |
Pavulon |
Dec-03-07 06:29 AM |
#92 |
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Venezuela must be made up of 51% ruling elite upper class. |
India3 |
Dec-03-07 08:51 AM |
#116 |
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ha I don't think so |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Dec-03-07 10:07 AM |
#134 |
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Strangely, this may be good for Chavez |
NobleCynic |
Dec-03-07 04:38 AM |
#79 |
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Why am I glad the NO won? |
arcos |
Dec-03-07 04:55 AM |
#82 |
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Good that the vote is being respected |
boricua79 |
Dec-03-07 05:29 AM |
#85 |
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Good. |
dave123williams |
Dec-03-07 05:37 AM |
#86 |
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so that`s what a democracy is..... |
madrchsod |
Dec-03-07 05:55 AM |
#90 |
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How Chavez behaves in defeat says a lot about him. |
tom_paine |
Dec-03-07 07:24 AM |
#95 |
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The people have spoken. |
AngryAmish |
Dec-03-07 07:50 AM |
#98 |
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The people just gave Chavez's naked power grab the smackdown. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-03-07 07:54 AM |
#99 |
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He's still in office till 2013 |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-03-07 07:58 AM |
#101 |
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I have been trying to figure out what the US plan is now. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-03-07 08:12 AM |
#103 |
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While Bush and the neo-cons are still in power, they are going |
Cleita |
Dec-03-07 12:10 PM |
#151 |
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I see little hope of electing a progressive Democrat |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-03-07 12:36 PM |
#153 |
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I think maybe Chavez just disarmed them for a while, ... |
CRH |
Dec-03-07 01:21 PM |
#155 |
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I had the same thought. Because the situation seemed to escalate, |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-03-07 01:46 PM |
#156 |
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More in the same vein, ... |
CRH |
Dec-04-07 10:14 AM |
#181 |
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The opposition students got NGO money. Yes, these are methods |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-04-07 11:29 AM |
#182 |
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Plan B, dirty money for the next election n/t |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-03-07 05:57 PM |
#166 |
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And His "Presence" may Give Other Citizens "Ideas" |
fascisthunter |
Dec-03-07 06:12 PM |
#167 |
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It must gall Mr. Danger that Chavez has won so many real elections. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-04-07 05:34 AM |
#176 |
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I was wrong. |
robcon |
Dec-03-07 08:13 AM |
#104 |
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'For Now' |
Clanfear |
Dec-03-07 08:37 AM |
#108 |
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This makes me like him even more. He's such a decent man... |
Joanne98 |
Dec-03-07 08:48 AM |
#114 |
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You know... |
ellisonz |
Dec-03-07 01:49 PM |
#159 |
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That's very offensive and |
zidzi |
Dec-03-07 06:21 PM |
#168 |
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You certainly have a point. A very valid one, too. |
MADem |
Dec-03-07 07:32 PM |
#172 |
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Your analogy is seriously flawed. |
ronnie624 |
Dec-04-07 12:11 AM |
#175 |
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Oh dear |
ronnykmarshall |
Dec-03-07 08:56 AM |
#118 |
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Damn, after reading some of these posts, and can really see that this topic is bringing them out of |
IsItJustMe |
Dec-03-07 09:03 AM |
#121 |
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Wow! |
The Onyx Key |
Dec-03-07 10:02 AM |
#131 |
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The future looks bright for Venezuela. No more worry of creeping dictatorship. |
Dave From Canada |
Dec-03-07 10:51 AM |
#136 |
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He may have lost the referendum after the King of Spain told him to shut up. |
robcon |
Dec-03-07 11:52 AM |
#147 |
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Spain has nothing to do with it. Spain and Spaniards are |
Cleita |
Dec-03-07 12:06 PM |
#150 |
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No. If anything, it boosted his popularity. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-03-07 01:47 PM |
#157 |
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No, it was the turningpoint against him. |
robcon |
Dec-04-07 07:26 AM |
#177 |
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You may not understand this, but the insult was to Venezuela as well. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-04-07 07:37 AM |
#178 |
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By hook or by crook, he will get his way. |
ryanmuegge |
Dec-03-07 01:49 PM |
#158 |
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That's just baloney. The coup plotters are still walking around |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-03-07 01:55 PM |
#160 |
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Chavez should apply for the post of prime minister in Belgium |
NGC_6822 |
Dec-03-07 02:20 PM |
#162 |
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Well there goes his plans to rule till 2050 |
jzodda |
Dec-03-07 03:42 PM |
#163 |
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Overlooked poor bite back at Chávez |
ohio2007 |
Dec-03-07 07:31 PM |
#171 |
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Given the lack of interest from the poor |
Clanfear |
Dec-03-07 07:44 PM |
#173 |
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another paragraph stated that the "leftist" parties didn't want to merge into one giant single party |
ohio2007 |
Dec-05-07 11:07 AM |
#202 |
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That is true |
Clanfear |
Dec-05-07 12:33 PM |
#206 |
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I wish all the best for Venezuela but I'm glad they avoided the cult of personality. |
DuaneBidoux |
Dec-03-07 08:08 PM |
#174 |
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This will hurt america and its relations with other countries. |
Xenotime |
Dec-04-07 08:16 AM |
#180 |
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This was actually a victory for Chávez |
RedCloud |
Dec-04-07 11:45 AM |
#183 |
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and if the referendum passed, it would have been a defeat?? |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-04-07 12:21 PM |
#184 |
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No. Either way, he won. It didn't occur to me that this was possible |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-04-07 12:54 PM |
#185 |
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you were feeling down yesterday, I am glad you see the silver lining |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-04-07 02:23 PM |
#190 |
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So true. It would be embarrassing for any dictator |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-04-07 03:27 PM |
#191 |
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both of us then are content, perhaps a rare occurrence |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-04-07 04:16 PM |
#192 |
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A Very Venezuelan Saying... |
RedCloud |
Dec-04-07 01:33 PM |
#187 |
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Chavez should be the first to exercise that "dicho" |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-04-07 02:22 PM |
#189 |
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You can thank millions of US tax payer dollars for that. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-04-07 04:29 PM |
#193 |
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Are you suggesting that the Chavistas were bought off? |
Clanfear |
Dec-04-07 10:07 PM |
#195 |
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No, I'm referring to the $8 million dollars we sent the opposition |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-04-07 10:24 PM |
#197 |
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yesterday's contentment appears to have faded |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-05-07 08:56 AM |
#200 |
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The funds were reported in more than one source but the one |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-05-07 10:57 AM |
#201 |
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surely you can provide a link then??? |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-05-07 11:38 AM |
#203 |
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I don't have links to the five hundred Chavez threads. Here is |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-05-07 11:54 AM |
#204 |
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US Agency for International Development |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-05-07 12:30 PM |
#205 |
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Asking someone who wrote a series of OpEds on swiftboating |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-05-07 12:40 PM |
#208 |
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here are quotes from the article it was dated 12/2 not 12/3 in the pro-Chavez site you posted |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-05-07 02:36 PM |
#214 |
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I didn't allege anything, I directed you to my opinion. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-05-07 02:40 PM |
#215 |
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yeah, I noticed long ago. the SF gave it away. You cited in your own OP/ED |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-05-07 02:51 PM |
#216 |
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More spin. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-05-07 02:58 PM |
#218 |
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Tranlate this |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-05-07 03:35 PM |
#221 |
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traducción |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-05-07 03:47 PM |
#222 |
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So Washington Post = US Government "news"paper |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-05-07 03:55 PM |
#223 |
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uhhh, no what do you think? |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-05-07 03:56 PM |
#224 |
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So private = freedom of the press |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-05-07 04:00 PM |
#225 |
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do you prefer government owned and controlled news organizations for your news?? |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-05-07 04:05 PM |
#227 |
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So I have to choose between the lesser evil |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-05-07 04:11 PM |
#229 |
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a free press in the US is protected under the 1st amendment |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-05-07 04:17 PM |
#230 |
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It does not prevent a republican government from manipulating the press |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-05-07 04:25 PM |
#232 |
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who watches Fox?? oh yeah, the masochists here |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-05-07 04:30 PM |
#233 |
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I'm anxious to know an impartial free press. |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-05-07 04:43 PM |
#234 |
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Here's a good look at how "impartial" our own "free press" has been. |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-05-07 04:53 PM |
#235 |
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That is unsubstantiated |
Clanfear |
Dec-05-07 12:36 PM |
#207 |
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well put, exactly what I was trying to get at |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-05-07 12:54 PM |
#210 |
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I found the report that I translated for another DUer on Sunday: |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-05-07 01:57 PM |
#212 |
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Crickets. Just what was expected. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-05-07 03:15 PM |
#220 |
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No such Washington Post article exists |
Clanfear |
Dec-05-07 05:59 PM |
#236 |
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Do you have any evidence that article does NOT exist? |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-05-07 06:11 PM |
#239 |
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Whoops! Here it is! |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-05-07 06:14 PM |
#240 |
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Nice, but that is not what the original article stated. |
Clanfear |
Dec-05-07 07:14 PM |
#242 |
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You're frantic to land a point. You've failed. |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-05-07 07:20 PM |
#244 |
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Maybe this will be helpful, from USAID, the familiar 8,000,000 figure looms into view: |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-05-07 07:26 PM |
#246 |
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You know, that figure doesn't seem out of line at ALL, considering how much of the US taxpayers' |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-05-07 07:31 PM |
#247 |
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That very well could be |
Clanfear |
Dec-05-07 07:35 PM |
#249 |
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Chavez |
Clanfear |
Dec-05-07 07:26 PM |
#245 |
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Yes, I do. |
Clanfear |
Dec-05-07 07:09 PM |
#241 |
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Maybe it's a breakdown in communication. What was stated in the link which was not in |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-05-07 07:17 PM |
#243 |
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The original link |
Clanfear |
Dec-05-07 07:32 PM |
#248 |
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Try this on someone who you can actually jerk around. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-05-07 10:24 PM |
#251 |
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No, I'm not suggesting people were stupid at all. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-05-07 01:28 PM |
#211 |
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No, Republicans are the ones that thinks latin-americans are stupids |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-05-07 04:04 PM |
#226 |
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Thank you. And they do the same thing in this country. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-05-07 04:08 PM |
#228 |
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They live oppressing mains n/t |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-05-07 04:18 PM |
#231 |
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Oh yes you did. |
Clanfear |
Dec-05-07 06:05 PM |
#238 |
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Propaganda works. The New York Times printed |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-06-07 07:27 AM |
#257 |
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We're working on it! This time around, I knew they would do this |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-04-07 01:00 PM |
#186 |
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THIS was about ending presidential TERM-LIMITS .... and Clinton recommended that for US --- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-04-07 10:17 PM |
#196 |
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Term Limits |
Thothmes |
Dec-05-07 07:25 AM |
#199 |
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I'm torn. The other ramification is that they devolve into the |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-05-07 02:12 PM |
#213 |
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Term limits in this country is done all wrong |
jzodda |
Dec-05-07 06:04 PM |
#237 |
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"President for life" is the Bush meme. Repeat it if you want |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-05-07 09:36 PM |
#250 |
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I don't care who says something and Chavez said he wanted to be president till 2050 |
jzodda |
Dec-06-07 04:46 AM |
#254 |
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True --- but you get to vote for them or not --- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-06-07 12:18 PM |
#258 |
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Cavez loss can be a VICTORY for socialism |
Laurenceofberk |
Dec-06-07 12:21 AM |
#252 |
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Welcome to DU! |
Andrushka |
Dec-06-07 01:47 AM |
#253 |
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