| 202. In case it's useful, here's a link to the British Dyslexia Association's description of dyscalculia |
 Rejected math book raises brows |
douglas9 |
Nov-26-07 06:18 AM |
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but why did they? |
soothsayer |
Nov-26-07 06:29 AM |
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"...prematurely encouraged the use of calculators." |
crikkett |
Nov-26-07 06:33 AM |
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That Is A Very Valid Concern! |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 06:38 AM |
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hear, hear! |
crikkett |
Nov-26-07 06:41 AM |
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The dumbing down of Amerika |
formercia |
Nov-26-07 07:01 AM |
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You might enjoy Isaac Asimov's short story "The Feeling of Power". |
Tesha |
Nov-26-07 08:40 AM |
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I Remember That One! |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 08:58 AM |
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Interestingly enough |
nathan hale |
Nov-27-07 06:33 AM |
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Azimov was a serious scholar as well |
formercia |
Nov-26-07 12:19 PM |
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Excellent primer |
Prophet 451 |
Nov-27-07 06:39 AM |
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Text of the story |
alfredo |
Nov-26-07 01:32 PM |
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Neither a calculator or memorized math facts teach you to think |
karynnj |
Nov-26-07 09:50 AM |
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I suppose it depends on the grade level |
DadOf2LittleAngels |
Nov-26-07 10:37 AM |
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Calculators were banned in my freshman calc class in college |
nick303 |
Nov-26-07 09:55 PM |
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8x7? let's see. carry the two, plus 5, less 4 add 1 and |
antifaschits |
Nov-27-07 07:13 AM |
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Calculators can help you learn to divide and multiply without assistance |
fishwax |
Nov-26-07 05:20 PM |
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Yeah, those whippersnapper programmers must learn machine code |
JCMach1 |
Nov-27-07 01:23 AM |
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No, but it is a building block. |
antifaschits |
Nov-27-07 07:19 AM |
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I yoused a kalculator from they 1 and I turned out fyne... |
rAVES |
Nov-27-07 10:05 AM |
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Well then I AGREE with them. These kids have to be taught |
JeanGrey |
Nov-27-07 10:57 AM |
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Premature calculation...that could be a bad thing. But aren't there drugs for that? n/t |
livvy |
Nov-26-07 06:38 AM |
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Premature e-calculation is a definite cause of failure to conceive... |
Tesha |
Nov-26-07 09:48 AM |
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I've seen way too many kids that can't do math in their heads. |
hobbit709 |
Nov-26-07 07:07 AM |
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Most Adults Can't, Anymore, It Seems |
Crisco |
Nov-26-07 12:19 PM |
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I've gotten old enough that I now waste too much time looking for the shortcut... |
Tesha |
Nov-26-07 12:45 PM |
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That is exactly how I do it. |
MissMarple |
Nov-27-07 04:10 PM |
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I've seen way to many kids who can't do math on paper, with unlimited time. |
Xithras |
Nov-26-07 01:03 PM |
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Yeah, ever see those kids in Mickey D's when their |
JeanGrey |
Nov-27-07 10:59 AM |
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Why does it matter that they're Republican and social/religious conservatives? |
Catch22Dem |
Nov-26-07 08:04 AM |
#24 |
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That was my first thought |
DadOf2LittleAngels |
Nov-26-07 10:38 AM |
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Because of the history of the Texas school board and these people |
Cerridwen |
Nov-26-07 01:34 PM |
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I agree. It should not be a political issue. I agree with it |
JeanGrey |
Nov-27-07 11:00 AM |
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I must agree.. |
boricua79 |
Nov-26-07 08:06 AM |
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Too tahms too is fo'; Fo' tahms fo' is ayet n/t |
dogfacedboy |
Nov-26-07 10:20 AM |
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The issue has to do with the board's ability to censor textbooks. |
damntexdem |
Nov-26-07 04:40 PM |
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Not enough greenbacks from McGraw Hill to BushCo. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-26-07 10:38 PM |
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I actually taught from this math curriculum and it was wonderful. |
Maestro |
Nov-26-07 06:44 AM |
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Calculators are to mathematics as |
izquierdista |
Nov-26-07 06:50 AM |
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That's a Fabulous Monicker, Izquierdista! |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 07:05 AM |
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Porque no? |
izquierdista |
Nov-26-07 07:31 AM |
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Nonsense |
JoFerret |
Nov-26-07 07:09 AM |
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Mathematicians don't need calculators |
izquierdista |
Nov-26-07 07:35 AM |
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Do you ever use spell check? |
Toots |
Nov-26-07 08:03 AM |
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Not for every word |
izquierdista |
Nov-26-07 08:12 AM |
#26 |
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Maybe you missed my point |
Toots |
Nov-26-07 08:31 AM |
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Reliance on tools |
izquierdista |
Nov-26-07 09:08 AM |
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Like using a shovel and knowing when you find yourself in a hole to stop digging |
Toots |
Nov-26-07 09:21 AM |
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Well.. you just preempted any semi-clever, witty retort... |
LanternWaste |
Nov-26-07 02:21 PM |
#120 |
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But you wrote "their" instead of "there" |
karynnj |
Nov-26-07 10:10 AM |
#64 |
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That was his point.. |
SyntaxError |
Nov-26-07 02:07 PM |
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I agree |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Nov-26-07 04:49 PM |
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I taught math in a middle school that promoted the use of calculators. |
IMModerate |
Nov-26-07 06:02 PM |
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I think that restaurant thing is unfair. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 06:21 PM |
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No. It was take-out and she just sat at the register. |
IMModerate |
Nov-26-07 08:32 PM |
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However, the spell checker didn't catch two for to |
Auntie Bush |
Nov-26-07 09:11 PM |
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You aren't a mathematician are you? |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 09:21 AM |
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No most of us prefered computers |
karynnj |
Nov-26-07 10:01 AM |
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You might also think that memorizing tables is math too |
Oak2004 |
Nov-26-07 10:44 AM |
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Drill in the 3rd Grade Is Appropriate |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 10:51 AM |
#78 |
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No, drill is NOT appropriate or a suitable replacement |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 11:20 AM |
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Yes I Do |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 11:35 AM |
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What subject? What age level? |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 11:41 AM |
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Homeschooling? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 02:26 PM |
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Engineering |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 02:29 PM |
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You teach engineering but you've got a thing against calculators? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 02:30 PM |
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Bring back sliderules! |
damntexdem |
Nov-26-07 04:45 PM |
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And you disapprove of calculators?? |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 02:51 PM |
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Wow, I must be a bad engineer, then - better go return my M.S. |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Nov-27-07 07:56 AM |
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Drilling the times table is fine for a thrd grade classroom. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 02:26 PM |
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Did you ever go to college? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 02:13 PM |
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Calculators are good for trig because they replace looking it up in charts. |
JVS |
Nov-26-07 03:56 PM |
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Not even constipated mathematicians. |
damntexdem |
Nov-26-07 04:43 PM |
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that's because mathematics is not calculating.... |
mike_c |
Nov-26-07 07:45 PM |
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A Calculator Is The Accountant's Tool |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 09:06 AM |
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Huh? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 02:27 PM |
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She's right. Look at these problems |
JVS |
Nov-26-07 06:28 PM |
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I just gotta ask, unless you become an engineer (maybe), what is this good for? |
Justitia |
Nov-26-07 06:48 PM |
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Because it's better to learn the fundamentals |
nick303 |
Nov-26-07 10:20 PM |
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Actually they were mathalon questions. |
JVS |
Nov-27-07 09:13 AM |
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That stuff is not Math, it's applied arithmetic |
JVS |
Nov-27-07 09:04 AM |
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Thanks for the invite, I'm not that much of a masochist, LOL, but I'm happy to work you through |
Justitia |
Nov-27-07 01:23 PM |
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On your last question |
dsc |
Nov-26-07 11:45 PM |
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Have you tried modelling the game with 6 players and 6 cards? |
nick303 |
Nov-27-07 12:39 AM |
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Have you used the curriculum? It is actually very good |
Maestro |
Nov-26-07 01:37 PM |
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That's a rather bad analogy |
fishwax |
Nov-26-07 05:06 PM |
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Why not? |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Nov-27-07 07:52 AM |
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Thanks for the informed opinion |
JoFerret |
Nov-26-07 07:12 AM |
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That is one thing they may have gotten right |
izquierdista |
Nov-26-07 07:48 AM |
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Do you really thing that to be a good computer programer, you have to type well? |
karynnj |
Nov-26-07 10:14 AM |
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I have never seen |
DadOf2LittleAngels |
Nov-26-07 10:43 AM |
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Paying by the job are you? |
izquierdista |
Nov-26-07 11:14 AM |
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I don't think you can ever have seen programmers at work |
muriel_volestrangler |
Nov-26-07 11:33 AM |
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With the programmers that I've watched... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 02:41 PM |
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And then there's COBOL... |
IMModerate |
Nov-26-07 06:17 PM |
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Mathematics is not calculation |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Nov-27-07 07:58 AM |
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Regardless of their motives |
DadOf2LittleAngels |
Nov-26-07 10:42 AM |
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So teaching them calculator skills precludes teaching them basic facts? |
TOJ |
Nov-26-07 01:21 PM |
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In theory no, in real life yes... |
DadOf2LittleAngels |
Nov-26-07 03:43 PM |
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When I used the curriculum, one of the first homework |
Maestro |
Nov-26-07 01:43 PM |
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Yes I have used it too and I agree |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 08:33 AM |
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OMG! That is funny! |
Maestro |
Nov-26-07 01:45 PM |
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I guess you have to be a teacher to get that story |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 02:13 PM |
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The nations with the highest math scores |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Nov-26-07 10:19 AM |
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Link?? |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 11:22 AM |
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Ask away, and see my post #132 |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Nov-26-07 03:01 PM |
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Please cite some research on this. |
Maestro |
Nov-26-07 01:47 PM |
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My critical thinking skills suggests... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 02:34 PM |
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You're right. They aren't, but we all know |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Nov-26-07 02:52 PM |
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So is it also your opinion that |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 03:00 PM |
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We all know teachers who are very busy. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 03:02 PM |
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The amount of time spent in the U.S. |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Nov-26-07 03:23 PM |
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Back up that claim. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 05:07 PM |
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I informally researched this for my own children quite extensively |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Nov-26-07 05:33 PM |
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Sonofabitch. I agree with you again. That's the second time. |
Buzz Clik |
Nov-27-07 02:17 PM |
#253 |
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What do first graders need to think "critically" about? |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Nov-26-07 02:42 PM |
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Then teach your kids their math facts! |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 02:55 PM |
#140 |
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No need for the links, but thanks anyway |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Nov-26-07 03:19 PM |
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Having put many kids through the public schools... |
Buzz Clik |
Nov-27-07 02:21 PM |
#254 |
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That's a bit of a myth actually |
JoFerret |
Nov-27-07 06:45 AM |
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I totally agree about fewer topics and greater depth |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Nov-27-07 10:42 AM |
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"Math scores" |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Nov-27-07 07:59 AM |
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Do you really think it's just a coincidence |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Nov-27-07 10:38 AM |
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and I say this about todays teachers of math... |
Didereaux |
Nov-26-07 01:44 PM |
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Well, okay. Please feel free to start your own school to |
Maestro |
Nov-26-07 01:51 PM |
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in a way I did that ... |
Didereaux |
Nov-26-07 02:19 PM |
#119 |
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Ah another parent who raised TWO kids knows more about teaching |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 02:26 PM |
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perhaps a teacher who DAMAGED thousands? |
Didereaux |
Nov-26-07 02:43 PM |
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I'm sorry about whatever went wrong with your education. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 02:47 PM |
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AFTER they learn the basics. Otherwise they cannot even recognize a bad entry! THINK!!! |
Didereaux |
Nov-26-07 02:49 PM |
#135 |
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False dichotomy. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 02:51 PM |
#138 |
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OMG! The basics! The basics! The battle of educrat conservatives! |
Maestro |
Nov-26-07 02:59 PM |
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LOL I thought I had heard that back to basics argument somewhere |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 03:01 PM |
#145 |
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Here's what I don't get... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 03:03 PM |
#148 |
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Define meaningful situation? |
JVS |
Nov-26-07 03:36 PM |
#155 |
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Kids can learn the basics through the calculator |
fishwax |
Nov-26-07 05:31 PM |
#181 |
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There are problems that can arise. A lack of familiarity with the numbers can result in poorer... |
JVS |
Nov-26-07 03:33 PM |
#154 |
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So your intent is now obvious |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 02:49 PM |
#136 |
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I think it is obvious. |
Maestro |
Nov-26-07 02:57 PM |
#142 |
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Is It Possible They're Trashing the Education Industry? And Not Teachers? |
Crisco |
Nov-26-07 03:48 PM |
#157 |
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And over 100 years ago kids didn't go home and play vidoegames all night |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 03:57 PM |
#159 |
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No, they churned butter. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 05:55 PM |
#185 |
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Many probably do trash the industry but at least person |
Maestro |
Nov-26-07 04:43 PM |
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nope the industry, and you just happened to defend it, proving the point of the issue |
Didereaux |
Nov-26-07 06:04 PM |
#187 |
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Whereas you're defending standardized tests in the other thread. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 06:11 PM |
#188 |
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Not what I said and you know it...I said |
Didereaux |
Nov-26-07 06:54 PM |
#197 |
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Oh please. I am simply defending a program with which |
Maestro |
Nov-26-07 06:11 PM |
#189 |
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I Saw That |
Crisco |
Nov-27-07 09:20 AM |
#244 |
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Thanks for taking a piss on my profession |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Nov-27-07 08:02 AM |
#237 |
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Aw, Shucks, It Weren't Nuthin' |
Crisco |
Nov-27-07 08:50 AM |
#241 |
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Wow. When did we meet? When were you in my classroom? |
Maestro |
Nov-26-07 02:56 PM |
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Nov-26-07 03:27 PM |
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Name removed |
Nov-26-07 04:02 PM |
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Oh, my. Pardon me while I give you a standing ovation. |
Buzz Clik |
Nov-27-07 02:24 PM |
#255 |
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All you who argue against what I have said,,,please explain then why your system has produced todays |
Didereaux |
Nov-26-07 03:26 PM |
#151 |
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Prove that pictures are on fast food registers because employees are dumb |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Nov-27-07 08:04 AM |
#238 |
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It is an amazing thing. Our school district is one of the best in the state... |
Buzz Clik |
Nov-27-07 02:31 PM |
#256 |
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The Educational, Teachers Colleges Are Something Else |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 08:06 PM |
#204 |
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At least for once a textbook got rejected for an issue that wasn't religious. |
BerryBush |
Nov-26-07 07:04 AM |
#9 |
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if it's true that this text book some how promoted the use |
xchrom |
Nov-26-07 07:08 AM |
#12 |
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This could be a good thing... |
SquireJons |
Nov-26-07 07:14 AM |
#15 |
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Just Don't Let Them Near the Budget OR the Tax Code! |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 09:03 AM |
#39 |
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I'm sure they're just being contrary |
Cobalt-60 |
Nov-26-07 07:30 AM |
#16 |
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The Bushes and McGraws go way back... |
No Surrender |
Nov-26-07 07:37 AM |
#19 |
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Learning Something New Everyday |
douglas9 |
Nov-26-07 08:24 AM |
#28 |
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An Abacus Is Not a Calculator |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 09:39 AM |
#57 |
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LOL |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 02:30 PM |
#126 |
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true. But it was still fun to use. |
Cobalt-60 |
Nov-27-07 04:10 AM |
#224 |
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For anyone interested in learning more about Everyday Mathematics... |
No Surrender |
Nov-26-07 07:42 AM |
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Math should be taught at home, by caring, Christian parents. |
Orsino |
Nov-26-07 07:48 AM |
#22 |
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If you just pray hard enough, and really, really believe, |
tanyev |
Nov-26-07 08:20 AM |
#27 |
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And dagnabit, that Pi thingamabob equals 3! God don't make no irnational numbers! |
Tesha |
Nov-26-07 09:46 AM |
#59 |
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65,000,000 + 4,500,000,000 = 6,000 n/t |
Orsino |
Nov-26-07 01:53 PM |
#114 |
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Proves how truly ignorant these board members are |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 08:29 AM |
#29 |
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While I don't know this specific curriculum |
pipoman |
Nov-26-07 08:58 AM |
#36 |
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Do you teach? |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 09:20 AM |
#49 |
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I have 2 teens who do know their tables thanks to me |
pipoman |
Nov-26-07 10:24 AM |
#68 |
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No that is not what I am saying at all |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 11:15 AM |
#81 |
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I am not referring to my kids at all |
pipoman |
Nov-26-07 01:10 PM |
#98 |
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BTW I did read your response in #82 |
pipoman |
Nov-26-07 01:15 PM |
#100 |
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Everyday Math (and most other current math programs) |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 02:08 PM |
#116 |
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"Calculators are an important tool in our 21st century work world." That Would Explain |
Crisco |
Nov-26-07 04:03 PM |
#161 |
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So I take it you never have more than $10.00 in your checking account |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 04:08 PM |
#164 |
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I Balance My Account In My Head |
Crisco |
Nov-26-07 04:21 PM |
#168 |
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You said more than 3 digits |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 05:06 PM |
#177 |
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Interesting set of points, but I'd assemble them differently: |
Buzz Clik |
Nov-27-07 02:36 PM |
#257 |
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Thank you. Your EXPERIENCE counts.... |
FormerRushFan |
Nov-26-07 09:47 AM |
#60 |
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Would you balance your checkbook with or without a calculator? |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 11:19 AM |
#82 |
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Oh, please, |
Le Taz Hot |
Nov-26-07 08:53 AM |
#33 |
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Good. It's sad how many adults can't even do basic arithmetic. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-26-07 08:55 AM |
#34 |
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Based on that article, I don't see how anyone can support the board on this. |
Jim__ |
Nov-26-07 09:00 AM |
#37 |
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Would You Want Your LIfe In The Hands of an Engineer, Doctor or Scientist |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 09:11 AM |
#44 |
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Does using this book mean that kids couldn't do simple math in their heads? |
Jim__ |
Nov-26-07 09:15 AM |
#46 |
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Give It Time |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 09:19 AM |
#48 |
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But what is your basis for assuming there will be a miserable failure? |
Jim__ |
Nov-26-07 09:21 AM |
#51 |
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My Kid Had That Text, and Failed--A Child of Engineers and IQ of 144 |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 09:28 AM |
#54 |
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That is an excellent Math series |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 11:25 AM |
#85 |
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Wait, because your kid failed it's the book's fault? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 02:38 PM |
#129 |
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Possibly, post hoc ergo prompter hoc? n/t |
LanternWaste |
Nov-26-07 04:42 PM |
#171 |
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Actually, the Whole City Has Depressed Math Scores |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 07:52 PM |
#201 |
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No it doesn't |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 09:23 AM |
#53 |
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If my life is in their hands, I'd prefer they'd triple-check to be sure. |
BadgerLaw2010 |
Nov-26-07 10:48 AM |
#77 |
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Doubt That I'd Even Hire You |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 10:54 AM |
#79 |
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All of hte above should be using calculators. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-26-07 02:39 PM |
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WEAPONS OF MATH INSTRUCTION-----> |
happygoluckytoyou |
Nov-26-07 09:01 AM |
#38 |
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When I was in 2nd grade |
Turbineguy |
Nov-26-07 09:11 AM |
#42 |
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The details of primary education can become amazingly politicized |
LeftishBrit |
Nov-26-07 09:11 AM |
#43 |
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They Probably Were Confused by the "New Math" |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 09:13 AM |
#45 |
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Maths teaching was not well-co-ordinated at that time in the UK. |
LeftishBrit |
Nov-26-07 09:28 AM |
#55 |
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OH, finally. Thank you. |
enlightenment |
Nov-26-07 07:50 PM |
#200 |
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I'm Recommending This Thread Because I Am an Engineer |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 09:18 AM |
#47 |
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See my post #70 in this thread |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Nov-26-07 10:33 AM |
#71 |
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Parent of 3rd grader weighs in... |
UU_Mom |
Nov-26-07 09:34 AM |
#56 |
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It Gets Better |
Demeter |
Nov-26-07 09:40 AM |
#58 |
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Teachers tend to like it |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Nov-26-07 10:31 AM |
#70 |
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Has your kid been evaluated for dyscalculia? |
Oak2004 |
Nov-26-07 11:30 AM |
#86 |
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Never heard of dyscalculia, but.... |
UU_Mom |
Nov-26-07 06:37 PM |
#195 |
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In case it's useful, here's a link to the British Dyslexia Association's description of dyscalculia |
LeftishBrit |
Nov-26-07 07:54 PM |
#202 |
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Thank you! |
UU_Mom |
Nov-26-07 07:56 PM |
#203 |
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The reason kids are taught several ways to solve a problem |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 11:40 AM |
#89 |
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I realize kids think differently.... |
UU_Mom |
Nov-26-07 07:09 PM |
#198 |
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I'm going to defend that practice... |
mike_c |
Nov-26-07 08:09 PM |
#205 |
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Oh, I don't disagree. |
UU_Mom |
Nov-26-07 08:59 PM |
#208 |
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Parent of 5th and 6th graders, in EM since day 1 |
Shanti Mama |
Nov-27-07 07:00 AM |
#229 |
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Parent of 5th and 6th graders, in EM since day 1 |
Shanti Mama |
Nov-27-07 07:11 AM |
#230 |
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Excellent post. |
Buzz Clik |
Nov-27-07 04:04 PM |
#258 |
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This is a sound decision |
DadOf2LittleAngels |
Nov-26-07 10:26 AM |
#69 |
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No it isn't a sound decision because it's not true |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 11:44 AM |
#91 |
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I have teaching experience |
DadOf2LittleAngels |
Nov-26-07 01:02 PM |
#95 |
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No one is advocating not teaching them multiplication tables |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 01:12 PM |
#99 |
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Its not working.. |
DadOf2LittleAngels |
Nov-26-07 01:19 PM |
#101 |
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If you really think that teaching kids to memorize information is sound instructional practice, |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 01:25 PM |
#103 |
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Thats not what I said... |
DadOf2LittleAngels |
Nov-26-07 01:31 PM |
#104 |
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Maybe textbook adoption is different at the high school level |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 01:38 PM |
#108 |
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Fifth graders who don't know their facts? That's a shame |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Nov-26-07 03:27 PM |
#152 |
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Well obviously I disagree |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 04:05 PM |
#162 |
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I wish I had a teacher like you. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-26-07 04:08 PM |
#165 |
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Amen. |
Maestro |
Nov-26-07 06:13 PM |
#190 |
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Graphs and venn diagrams ARE NOT important to a second grader's education |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Nov-26-07 04:19 PM |
#167 |
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The thing is, after about seventh grade "math facts" don't matter anymore. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-26-07 04:06 PM |
#163 |
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I couldn't disagree more |
pipoman |
Nov-26-07 10:31 PM |
#212 |
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First of all, if you read what the teachers who have taught this curriculum say |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-26-07 11:27 PM |
#217 |
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I have read that nonsense |
pipoman |
Nov-27-07 01:48 AM |
#222 |
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That is not what I meant. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-27-07 03:24 AM |
#223 |
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And my point is |
pipoman |
Nov-27-07 08:34 AM |
#240 |
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Wtf kind of data are 5th graders realistically going to be analyzing? |
nick303 |
Nov-26-07 11:03 PM |
#216 |
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This is bad |
nick303 |
Nov-26-07 10:57 PM |
#215 |
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Wait until they have to do a massive recall of Chinese-made calculators |
Ezlivin |
Nov-26-07 01:04 PM |
#97 |
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interesting thread; I wonder what they'd think about the "abacus system"? |
0rganism |
Nov-26-07 04:16 PM |
#166 |
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I read something about that years ago |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Nov-26-07 04:43 PM |
#174 |
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it is more ingrained in their culture, but also adequate to their needs |
0rganism |
Nov-26-07 05:34 PM |
#183 |
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I agree, but little |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Nov-26-07 05:51 PM |
#184 |
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You need both |
insleeforprez |
Nov-26-07 04:28 PM |
#169 |
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Agree. IMO, you start using calculators w/trig, maybe a little w/algebra. I'm an accountant |
Justitia |
Nov-26-07 06:37 PM |
#194 |
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Oddly enuf, there wasn't enuf time on physics exams for twinkle boxes |
Fredda Weinberg |
Nov-26-07 08:43 PM |
#207 |
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Well said and great post |
pipoman |
Nov-26-07 10:41 PM |
#214 |
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I agree. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-26-07 11:31 PM |
#218 |
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From what I can see, the issue here is not |
tomg |
Nov-27-07 06:25 AM |
#225 |
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After reading and participating in this entire thread, |
pipoman |
Nov-27-07 08:28 AM |
#239 |
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You wouldn't believe the wasted tax dollars on books |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Nov-27-07 10:54 AM |
#248 |
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