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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 07:16 PM
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19. so how do the whales defend themselves from the whalers?
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  -Environmentalists vow to ram whaling vessels Barrett808  Nov-19-07 06:09 PM   #0 
  - Okay, I'll have sex for the cause of virginity.  HypnoToad   Nov-19-07 06:11 PM   #1 
  - No, actually  Hayduke Lives   Nov-19-07 07:16 PM   #18 
  - Let's hope Captain Watson remembers:  Turbineguy   Nov-19-07 09:31 PM   #34 
  - Better to risk the lives of sailors, than allow a whale to be harmed  Thothmes   Nov-20-07 06:49 AM   #74 
     - No, it is actually the whalers who are risking their lives by violating international law.  The Stranger   Nov-20-07 12:47 PM   #102 
        - You would prefer dead sailors to dead whales. Whose at fault  Thothmes   Nov-22-07 10:22 AM   #158 
           - I would prefer dead whalers to dead whales. No question.  Nihil   Nov-22-07 10:48 AM   #161 
           - Nobody is sinking ships, nobody is murdering sailors. stafoo pls. n/t  slowry   Nov-22-07 10:49 AM   #162 
  - you've gotta be joking  Duppers   Nov-20-07 06:08 AM   #69 
  - I do, but it's hardly a win-win situation.  HypnoToad   Nov-20-07 04:36 PM   #119 
     - I didn't know anyone enforced treaties within international waters  minnesota_liberal   Nov-20-07 10:48 PM   #125 
     - okay, take back what i said in my last repsonse to you  lakeguy   Nov-21-07 12:04 AM   #132 
  - Actually, I thought sea life love sunken ships like that...  SyntaxError   Nov-20-07 09:30 AM   #77 
  - whats your solution there smart guy?  lakeguy   Nov-20-07 11:56 PM   #129 
     - Joe Horn? Is that you? n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-21-07 01:26 PM   #146 
  - Fortunately, we have a secret weapon...  IanDB1   Nov-19-07 06:13 PM   #2 
  - I would love to be with those guys.  TomInTib   Nov-19-07 06:14 PM   #3 
  - agreed  Red Zelda   Nov-19-07 06:31 PM   #4 
     - Give to Sea Shepherd. That is one way to support them.  The Stranger   Nov-20-07 12:53 PM   #106 
  - Those are not "environmentalists". The media is slandering real environmentalists with that label.  Harper_is_Bush   Nov-19-07 06:31 PM   #5 
  - why because they actively doing something?  ORDagnabbit   Nov-19-07 06:54 PM   #6 
  - Yeah, because they're actively doing something.  Harper_is_Bush   Nov-19-07 07:05 PM   #10 
  - Oh, I wonder would you say the same if  cstanleytech   Nov-20-07 12:08 PM   #98 
  - I AGREE, THERE PRO ACTIVE..PIRATE ON!  Bo   Nov-20-07 01:54 PM   #111 
  - You're right.  slowry   Nov-19-07 06:56 PM   #7 
  - Yeah, using up tonnes of fuel to go out and cause a fuel spill is "results".  Harper_is_Bush   Nov-19-07 07:04 PM   #9 
     - Yeah, you can tell I'm "blinded" by the 9-word post I just wasted on you.  slowry   Nov-19-07 07:13 PM   #16 
     - I've researched them. The "Captain" is a habitual liar, and the organization makes millions off of  Harper_is_Bush   Nov-19-07 07:18 PM   #22 
        - Done responding to you, but I again encourage anyone to ignore us, and do their own research n/t  slowry   Nov-19-07 07:31 PM   #25 
        - Yeah, ignore us.  Harper_is_Bush   Nov-19-07 07:49 PM   #27 
        - ...  kineta   Nov-21-07 12:21 AM   #135 
        - Hey, if he said he researched, that's good enough for me! Well, maybe not!  Judi Lynn   Nov-19-07 11:08 PM   #46 
           - criminal activity?  northzax   Nov-20-07 09:39 AM   #80 
              - The hunt itself is not illegal, per se.  Heywoodj   Nov-20-07 09:15 PM   #123 
                 - If that is the purpose for the killing, then it is illegal per se.  The Stranger   Nov-21-07 08:26 AM   #138 
        - Got any proof that Watson is a "habitual liar"?  Canuckistanian   Nov-19-07 09:04 PM   #32 
        - Yes, that's one lie. He claimed his actions caused the resignation of an MP.  Harper_is_Bush   Nov-19-07 09:14 PM   #33 
           - Who are his enemies?  Canuckistanian   Nov-19-07 09:51 PM   #36 
           - He lied about the reasons for a Canadian MP leaving office.  Harper_is_Bush   Nov-19-07 11:07 PM   #45 
              - I made an honest, educated effort to find anything like what you describe and...  slowry   Nov-20-07 11:58 AM   #97 
                 - I searched Google using his exact phrase  kgfnally   Nov-20-07 12:34 PM   #101 
           - uh- problem with that Google term  kgfnally   Nov-20-07 12:32 PM   #100 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-19-07 11:10 PM   #47 
        - Sure in having "done your research"......Please share it with us n/t  Mind_your_head   Nov-19-07 11:44 PM   #59 
     - Isn't the watertight integrity of most fishing/whaling vessels...  LanternWaste   Nov-20-07 10:39 AM   #92 
  - Is that so?  flvegan   Nov-19-07 10:59 PM   #43 
  - ? Oh, just like GREENPEACE?  Duppers   Nov-20-07 06:10 AM   #70 
  - Hey, how about those sHarp seals?  LostinVA   Nov-20-07 11:16 AM   #96 
  - as it should be. nt  xchrom   Nov-19-07 07:03 PM   #8 
  - Did they finish spiking all the trees?  Bornaginhooligan   Nov-19-07 07:05 PM   #11 
  - Name one person they've injured, in over 30 years of action, please. n/t  slowry   Nov-19-07 07:08 PM   #13 
  - Sea Shepard? I don't know of any.  Bornaginhooligan   Nov-19-07 07:09 PM   #14 
     - They're threatening to give criminals a bit of a run for their money.  slowry   Nov-19-07 07:16 PM   #17 
        - They are criminals.  Bornaginhooligan   Nov-19-07 07:17 PM   #20 
           - They're acting in accordance with international law; something both the Japanese government  slowry   Nov-19-07 07:18 PM   #21 
              - They're also threatening violence.  Bornaginhooligan   Nov-19-07 07:20 PM   #23 
              - Ramming into the whaler's ships, to delay/annoy/discourage them from illegally  slowry   Nov-19-07 07:30 PM   #24 
              - It's a high seas PIT move.  flvegan   Nov-19-07 11:24 PM   #53 
              - international law?  northzax   Nov-20-07 09:42 AM   #81 
                 - The IWC voted 40-2 (27 non-votes) to PASS a resolution calling on Japan to discontinue its killing  slowry   Nov-20-07 12:27 PM   #99 
  - Good Lord!  Hayduke Lives   Nov-19-07 07:50 PM   #28 
     - Thanks for clearing that up. I was astounded, slightly, hearing such wild ones flung out here.  Judi Lynn   Nov-19-07 11:15 PM   #49 
     - word-up Hayduke. eom  app_farmer_rb   Nov-20-07 10:25 AM   #88 
  - I guess I will here no crying when the whalers fire upon them. He has stated his intent.  seriousstan   Nov-19-07 07:08 PM   #12 
  - The whalers should defend themselves by any means necessary, imo. n/t  Harper_is_Bush   Nov-19-07 07:13 PM   #15 
     - so how do the whales defend themselves from the whalers?  ORDagnabbit   Nov-19-07 07:16 PM   #19 
     - Exactly the question, but not many on DU dare ask it...  villager   Nov-19-07 10:13 PM   #41 
     - why?  Duppers   Nov-20-07 06:27 AM   #71 
        - Well, I was thinking that many DUers are still a pretty anthropocentric bunch...  villager   Nov-20-07 02:08 PM   #114 
     - What a sick way to look at "life," thinking anything which can't kill back is going down,  Judi Lynn   Nov-19-07 11:19 PM   #50 
     - by evolving into a gun platform?  SyntaxError   Nov-20-07 09:34 AM   #78 
     - Exactly the question, Thank you. n/t  chatnoir   Nov-20-07 10:07 AM   #84 
     - They swim  JVS   Nov-20-07 11:15 PM   #126 
     - Seems to me the Australian or New Zealand navies should board and/or scuttle them  depakid   Nov-19-07 07:36 PM   #26 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-19-07 08:40 PM   #29 
     - What a sick statement.  girl gone mad   Nov-19-07 09:53 PM   #37 
     - regardless of their tactics?  Harper_is_Bush   Nov-19-07 10:02 PM   #38 
     - Regardless of their tactics.  girl gone mad   Nov-20-07 02:33 AM   #66 
     - actually, whale meat is not rich man's food in Asia  northzax   Nov-20-07 09:43 AM   #82 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-19-07 11:01 PM   #44 
     - The whalers are fucking criminals and should be stopped by any means necessary.  The Stranger   Nov-20-07 12:48 PM   #103 
     - Maritime law allows it.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-21-07 02:54 PM   #148 
  - I love the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society  Patchuli   Nov-19-07 08:55 PM   #30 
  - Thank you, Sea Shepherd for at least trying to save these innocent creatures from  MasonJar   Nov-19-07 08:58 PM   #31 
  - I predict since he stated his intent, someone's navy will sink the Sea Shepherd. n/t  CK_John   Nov-19-07 09:43 PM   #35 
  - Watson is half direct-action, half publicity monger  TheBorealAvenger   Nov-19-07 10:10 PM   #39 
  - Well if he gets within sonar range of any of these ships on the high seas, his ass is grass. n/t  CK_John   Nov-19-07 11:29 PM   #55 
     - Nah. He's tagged a few of them real good before, and sank others elsewhere.  LeftyMom   Nov-20-07 01:01 AM   #65 
        - Funny, I remember exchanging posts with you where you denied they rammed.  Bonobo   Nov-22-07 10:28 AM   #159 
  - Really? Whose?  Nihil   Nov-20-07 05:27 AM   #68 
  - I guess you missed the story about North Korea thanking the American Navy  RantinRavin   Nov-20-07 09:35 AM   #79 
     - Sea Shepard..  girl gone mad   Nov-20-07 01:51 PM   #110 
        - Duh...really  RantinRavin   Nov-20-07 02:17 PM   #115 
  - yeah, like the French and Greenpeace's Rainbow Warrior  Duppers   Nov-20-07 06:32 AM   #72 
     - I know all about that  Neo   Nov-20-07 04:24 PM   #118 
        - Wow! You're a HERO in my book!  Duppers   Nov-20-07 07:17 PM   #120 
        - Thank you, Neo!  Kajsa   Nov-22-07 10:17 AM   #157 
  - What's "radical" is the Japanese plan for plundering the oceans  villager   Nov-19-07 10:12 PM   #40 
  - a whale's life is sacred and worthy of this action  Neo   Nov-19-07 10:34 PM   #42 
  - what about the earth itself, and it's ability to support the whales?  Harper_is_Bush   Nov-19-07 11:11 PM   #48 
     - You actually believe you are making sense?  Judi Lynn   Nov-19-07 11:23 PM   #52 
     - global warming  Harper_is_Bush   Nov-19-07 11:27 PM   #54 
        - And you imagine you're making some kind of sense. n/t  Judi Lynn   Nov-19-07 11:29 PM   #56 
           - yes, I've made perfect sense.  Harper_is_Bush   Nov-19-07 11:37 PM   #57 
              - What on earth would this have to do with slaughtering whales?  Judi Lynn   Nov-19-07 11:42 PM   #58 
                 - No. I'm saying if the "Captain" really cared about whales he would make global warming one of his  Harper_is_Bush   Nov-19-07 11:47 PM   #60 
                    - So it's o.k. to slaughter the whales who are here right now, reducing the number of any possible  Judi Lynn   Nov-19-07 11:54 PM   #61 
                    - actually, yes  northzax   Nov-20-07 10:27 AM   #90 
                       - They aren't hunting Minke whales this time. Now they are after endangered Humpbacks  Beaverhausen   Nov-20-07 07:39 PM   #122 
                    - Google: site:seashepherd.org "global warming" -- 85 results -- happy reading, friend  slowry   Nov-20-07 12:02 AM   #62 
                    - Sorry, I confused you with uh, one of the pro-whaling individuals. Yikes!  Judi Lynn   Nov-20-07 12:17 AM   #63 
                       - edit: (borat voice): high five n/t  slowry   Nov-20-07 12:25 AM   #64 
                    - you're using an either / or argument  Duppers   Nov-20-07 06:42 AM   #73 
                    - Just out of curiosity  plasticsundance   Nov-20-07 02:04 PM   #113 
     - The threat to these whales' lives..  girl gone mad   Nov-20-07 02:43 AM   #67 
     - It appears you're implying...  LanternWaste   Nov-20-07 10:48 AM   #93 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-19-07 11:21 PM   #51 
  - umm...raming ships is not "non-violent", buddy  boricua79   Nov-20-07 06:50 AM   #75 
  - Educate yourself on the tactics of the SSCS first  Hayduke Lives   Nov-20-07 09:10 AM   #76 
  - hey,  boricua79   Nov-20-07 10:01 AM   #83 
     - There's a size disparity. The whaling ships are MUCH larger.  LeftyMom   Nov-20-07 10:07 AM   #85 
        - so again,  boricua79   Nov-20-07 10:14 AM   #86 
           - "Economic damage is violence" my ass. Picketing Walmart is not the same thing as beating up a Walton  LeftyMom   Nov-20-07 10:19 AM   #87 
              - Picketing Walmart is not ramming ships  boricua79   Nov-20-07 10:32 AM   #91 
              - this is equivalent  darboy   Nov-21-07 12:02 AM   #130 
                 - It is EXACTLY like that  slowry   Nov-21-07 10:38 AM   #142 
                    - *snort*  Ignis   Nov-21-07 01:13 PM   #145 
  - I find it amusing that someone with...  Hell Hath No Fury   Nov-20-07 10:26 AM   #89 
  - I agree. Funny how when you make it real and present day, suddenly the taboo against violence of  The Stranger   Nov-20-07 12:51 PM   #105 
  - No, don't get me wrong  boricua79   Nov-20-07 01:11 PM   #107 
     - Take Malcolm X's philosophy...  Hayduke Lives   Nov-20-07 01:46 PM   #109 
        - I can see where you are coming from  boricua79   Nov-20-07 02:00 PM   #112 
  - Whaling Isn't Non-Violent Either  fascisthunter   Nov-20-07 10:01 PM   #124 
  - Sea Shepherd: The Whale Killers Are On the Way  Barrett808   Nov-20-07 11:03 AM   #94 
  - The Independent: The saviours of the whale  Barrett808   Nov-20-07 11:08 AM   #95 
  - FIGHT ON, SEA SHEPHERD!  The Stranger   Nov-20-07 12:49 PM   #104 
  - It's better than that! They fly the Five Nations flag.  GliderGuider   Nov-20-07 03:02 PM   #116 
  - OK, here it is....  Turbineguy   Nov-20-07 04:20 PM   #117 
  - GO SHEPHERD GO!!!!! nt  and-justice-for-all   Nov-20-07 01:38 PM   #108 
  - Rock On Sea Shepherd!  ellie   Nov-20-07 07:35 PM   #121 
  - property destruction is not "economic destruction"  darboy   Nov-20-07 11:50 PM   #127 
  - Got a better idea? 'Cause 50 humpbacks and 900 or so other whales could use one real soon.  LeftyMom   Nov-20-07 11:55 PM   #128 
     - yes  darboy   Nov-21-07 12:04 AM   #131 
        - Don't you think somebody's tried that?  LeftyMom   Nov-21-07 12:08 AM   #133 
           - then pass laws to stop it,  darboy   Nov-21-07 12:10 AM   #134 
              - It's already illegal and you're 110% wrong.  LeftyMom   Nov-21-07 12:27 AM   #136 
              - ha  darboy   Nov-21-07 07:45 AM   #137 
                 - We let Rush Limbaugh dictate our actions now?  LeftyMom   Nov-21-07 10:13 AM   #140 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-21-07 09:18 AM   #139 
                 - Oh, if I could nominate a single post.  LeftyMom   Nov-21-07 10:14 AM   #141 
                 - Kick and great applause!  Nihil   Nov-21-07 11:39 AM   #144 
                 - nice ad hominems  darboy   Nov-21-07 06:20 PM   #150 
                 - Fortunately, you appear to have "divine" protection ...  Nihil   Nov-22-07 06:20 AM   #152 
                    - sorry  darboy   Nov-22-07 09:53 AM   #153 
                       - You seem to manage ...  Nihil   Nov-22-07 10:17 AM   #156 
                          - except that's wrong  darboy   Nov-22-07 12:45 PM   #165 
                             - Hardly ...  Nihil   Nov-23-07 03:12 AM   #168 
                 - " You also need to educate yourself on the SSCS's tactics. "  darboy   Nov-21-07 06:41 PM   #151 
                    - the "bottles of chemicals" were essentially stink bombs- harmless but smelly.  LeftyMom   Nov-22-07 09:57 AM   #154 
                       - So is Greenpeace "neutered"  darboy   Nov-22-07 10:04 AM   #155 
                          - Arrest the whalers? The Japanese government OWNS THE FLEET. They sign their checks!  LeftyMom   Nov-22-07 10:59 AM   #163 
                             - even easier then  darboy   Nov-22-07 12:38 PM   #164 
                                - Fucking A, don't you think that's been done?  LeftyMom   Nov-22-07 01:03 PM   #166 
                                   - Have a happy thanksgiving then  darboy   Nov-22-07 01:47 PM   #167 
  - Good for them!  KC2   Nov-21-07 10:43 AM   #143 
  - Go with grace Sea Shepard!  MadHound   Nov-21-07 02:25 PM   #147 
  - As a whale eating half norwegian  Niccolo_Macchiavelli   Nov-21-07 02:54 PM   #149 
  - Good for you, Sea Shepherd!  Kajsa   Nov-22-07 10:38 AM   #160 
  - What Sea Shepard really needs is one of these:  Endangered Specie   Nov-24-07 01:57 AM   #169 
  - Go, Sea Shepherds! n/t  codjh9   Nov-24-07 04:00 PM   #170 
 

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