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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:10 AM
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75. Scale,
timing, and truthfulness.

A supposed reason congress can't confront the current critical issues is that it is too burdened with more important measures. If that were indeed true, century old war crime would be lower on the list of congressional priorities than current war crimes. In other words, this is a diversion.

If the Speaker is acting for her local constituency, then that's well and good, but she agreed to be the Speaker of the House. If national priorities are truly secondary to her local demands, it is time she step aside and allow someone with a national agenda to assume her post. In fact it is past time.
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  -Pelosi Vows to Push Ahead With Genocide Measure Omaha Steve  Oct-14-07 04:05 PM   #0 
  - Nancy YOU MUST be honest with the American people  seemslikeadream   Oct-14-07 04:06 PM   #1 
  - Is that why? Now it makes sense. Why doesn't she just say so!  Joanne98   Oct-14-07 04:10 PM   #3 
  - I have no idea why she is doing this  seemslikeadream   Oct-14-07 04:17 PM   #4 
     - hmmm  Flabbergasted   Oct-14-07 05:04 PM   #11 
     - Of course they want them to invade...  Javaman   Oct-15-07 09:25 AM   #77 
     - US politicians have been promising this for a while  PaulaFarrell   Oct-15-07 04:29 AM   #59 
     - SEE # 44 POST  rodeodance   Oct-15-07 10:20 AM   #90 
  - Nancy, please come up with a new resolution..........  BlueJac   Oct-14-07 04:49 PM   #10 
  - Can we Impeach Pelosi and replace her with Kucinich?  ShortnFiery   Oct-14-07 05:15 PM   #13 
  - I'd think Kucinich would support this as well. Maybe not the timing but the principle.  Flabbergasted   Oct-14-07 05:49 PM   #19 
     - We might as well bring up the attempted genocide of Native Americans  eagler   Oct-15-07 08:34 PM   #146 
        - That was a real genocide. nt  Flabbergasted   Oct-16-07 12:42 AM   #157 
  - Why is she doing this?  nebula   Oct-14-07 10:32 PM   #29 
  - So the slaughter of 1.5 million of my people is irrelevant to you?  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 12:56 AM   #53 
  - Perhaps  spotbird   Oct-15-07 08:16 AM   #68 
  - Yep, who do we throw under the bus next for political expediency!  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 08:53 AM   #72 
  - How many Armenian  spotbird   Oct-15-07 10:00 AM   #81 
  - STOP conflating this with other issues. It. Stands. On. It's. Own!  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 11:00 AM   #100 
     - Huh,  spotbird   Oct-15-07 11:12 AM   #101 
        - Ending the Iraq war is also a positive outcome.  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 11:17 AM   #103 
           - That would take courageous leadership  spotbird   Oct-15-07 11:23 AM   #106 
              - lol - this is a possible courageous step to end the war  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 11:27 AM   #108 
                 - OK,  spotbird   Oct-15-07 11:29 AM   #109 
  - i care  shanti   Oct-15-07 10:05 AM   #83 
     - It's nice to hear  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 10:56 AM   #99 
        - My screenname is a Romani word borrowed from Armenian  Chovexani   Oct-15-07 06:25 PM   #144 
  - there are some Armenians who did survive, and those who did  alyce douglas   Oct-15-07 12:55 PM   #124 
     - We will be accused of much, but not genocide. We're enablers though  SleeplessinSoCal   Oct-16-07 01:39 AM   #161 
  - How about the million Muslims killed in the latter half of the 19th century  Malikshah   Oct-15-07 09:08 PM   #150 
  - It happened over a hundred years ago.  nebula   Oct-16-07 06:22 PM   #175 
     - Historical Ignorance is Duly Noted. Why don't Americans learn from history?  Leopolds Ghost   Oct-17-07 11:33 AM   #181 
  - SEE # 44 POST  rodeodance   Oct-15-07 10:21 AM   #91 
  - She's doing it to give Turkey an opportunity to shut down the war in Iraq.  lvx35   Oct-15-07 12:24 AM   #44 
  - yes, I have had a conversation about this--could very well be true. I hope it does  rodeodance   Oct-15-07 10:19 AM   #88 
  - Yes, this even more shows how the anger is misplaced using Iraq as a comparison  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 11:14 AM   #102 
  - An elegant solution!  TexasBushwhacker   Oct-15-07 11:20 AM   #104 
  - really n/t  allisonthegreat   Oct-15-07 11:41 AM   #113 
  - Then she should have the guts to admit it  Mike Daniels   Oct-15-07 02:16 PM   #130 
  - Oh, I don't think its too bad.  lvx35   Oct-15-07 05:37 PM   #141 
  - In Turkey (unlike Iran) it is actually ILLEGAL to assert that the Holocaust occurred  Leopolds Ghost   Oct-17-07 11:43 AM   #184 
  - I can't help but wonder if that's exactly what this was meant to do  Col Jack D Ripper   Oct-16-07 11:29 AM   #170 
  - A NATO partner we made in order to have a client state against Russia.  Leopolds Ghost   Oct-17-07 11:41 AM   #183 
  - The only thing plain in this world is a bagel.  HypnoToad   Oct-15-07 03:41 PM   #137 
  - It would make supplying Iraq vastly more difficult but the Iraq war wouldn't stop because of it.  Flabbergasted   Oct-16-07 12:47 AM   #158 
  - I also wonder  CJCRANE   Oct-16-07 07:19 AM   #164 
  - My take on it:  lvx35   Oct-16-07 11:40 PM   #180 
  - Because Most Americans are historically Ignorant & don't realize Iraq war depends on Turkish support  Leopolds Ghost   Oct-17-07 11:36 AM   #182 
  - Because YOU care about Burma and you SHOULD care about 1.5 MILLION ARMENIANS SLAUGHTERED  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 12:53 AM   #52 
     - you know damn well this is ALL politics for Nancy  seemslikeadream   Oct-15-07 06:35 AM   #62 
     - It's been on the docket for 40 years.  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 07:25 AM   #63 
        - Of course the genocide needs to be officially recognized  Col Jack D Ripper   Oct-16-07 11:24 AM   #169 
           - True - and fine with me  HughMoran   Oct-16-07 11:15 PM   #179 
     - Maybe she should try focusing on stopping people being slaughtered RIGHT NOW  nodehopper   Oct-15-07 07:26 AM   #64 
        - Yes, that too.  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 07:36 AM   #66 
           - uh...I was talking about Iraq  nodehopper   Oct-16-07 04:52 PM   #173 
  - Does anybody know why she's doing this right now?  Joanne98   Oct-14-07 04:08 PM   #2 
  - You can't compare Iraq and Armenia  PaulaFarrell   Oct-15-07 04:37 AM   #60 
  - SEE # 44 POST  rodeodance   Oct-15-07 10:20 AM   #89 
  - We saw it  spotbird   Oct-15-07 10:29 AM   #97 
     - So, do we also let the Kurds be the next to get massacred?  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 11:21 AM   #105 
        - Will this resolution stop that? nt  spotbird   Oct-15-07 11:24 AM   #107 
           - It will certainly put the eye of the world onto the capability of the Turks to be killers  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 11:31 AM   #110 
              - Your insults  spotbird   Oct-15-07 11:38 AM   #111 
                 - Lol - now call ME insulting when you have been a condescending poster  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 11:46 AM   #114 
  - Genocide is genocide, so should we tell the Armenians  48percenter   Oct-15-07 11:53 AM   #116 
  - Its been introduced every year, and this time no one stopped it  JPZenger   Oct-15-07 01:14 PM   #128 
  - And please follow up with a resolution condemning  ben_meyers   Oct-14-07 04:22 PM   #5 
  - How about slavery reparations, Pelosi?  IndianaGreen   Oct-14-07 10:52 PM   #35 
     - Sure!  Socal31   Oct-15-07 01:15 AM   #55 
        - OK, let's talk about the present...  ProudDad   Oct-15-07 02:01 AM   #57 
           - EXCELLENT post, ProudDad. I'd say Congress needs to get on that FIRST.  chimpymustgo   Oct-15-07 05:56 PM   #143 
              - I'm curious.....  Socal31   Oct-16-07 12:55 AM   #159 
  - this resolution at this time just doesnt make any sense  lionesspriyanka   Oct-14-07 04:24 PM   #6 
  - SEE # 44 POST  rodeodance   Oct-15-07 10:22 AM   #92 
     - If true  ProudDad   Oct-15-07 07:13 PM   #145 
  - It's an issue oft brought up, and CA has a large Armenian population.  pinto   Oct-14-07 04:29 PM   #7 
  - In any other time this would be a near non-issue.  Flabbergasted   Oct-14-07 05:09 PM   #12 
  - It's Hard To Comprehend, but  nightrider767   Oct-14-07 04:48 PM   #8 
  - It was brought up in Clinton Adm and he asked not to pass it and it was put in the drawer  rodeodance   Oct-14-07 05:31 PM   #17 
  - I was just preparing to ask about this in a post.  hedgehog   Oct-14-07 07:35 PM   #24 
  - SEE # 44 POST  rodeodance   Oct-15-07 10:25 AM   #95 
  - Nancy, could you throw us a bone on the Iraqi Genocide of the 21st century?  The Stranger   Oct-14-07 04:48 PM   #9 
  - There is no genocide n/t  Zandor   Oct-14-07 06:00 PM   #21 
  - Of course there is genocide. Maybe you haven't been keeping up with current evnets.  The Stranger   Oct-14-07 10:25 PM   #27 
     - Who is executing this genocide?  Zandor   Oct-15-07 08:11 AM   #67 
        - You really cannot be serious.  The Stranger   Oct-15-07 08:47 AM   #71 
           - Yes. Who is the perp, and who are the victims  Zandor   Oct-15-07 10:41 AM   #98 
              - There's 1.2 million dead Iraqis.  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-15-07 05:39 PM   #142 
              - A disputed number  Zandor   Oct-16-07 06:54 AM   #162 
                 - Yeah, disputed like Ahmadinejad disputes the holocaust.  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-16-07 10:36 AM   #165 
              - There will be many more dead Iraqis.  ronnie624   Oct-16-07 12:02 AM   #156 
                 - Definition of genocide  Zandor   Oct-16-07 06:58 AM   #163 
                    - Point taken.  ronnie624   Oct-16-07 10:39 AM   #166 
  - The genocide against the Armenians and then the Jews  CreekDog   Oct-14-07 10:34 PM   #30 
     - Some people are more specialler than others  Chulanowa   Oct-15-07 05:13 AM   #61 
     - No Shit!  Megahurtz   Oct-15-07 03:27 PM   #135 
     - I HONESTLY can't tell if you are being sarcastic.  nodehopper   Oct-15-07 07:27 AM   #65 
     - Or the mother of a dead Iraqi child. nt  spotbird   Oct-15-07 08:17 AM   #69 
  - WEll I know it is a big deal here in LA where there is a large Armenian -population, but that  robinlynne   Oct-14-07 05:18 PM   #14 
  - Pushed by House Members With Many Armenian Residents  JPZenger   Oct-15-07 01:03 PM   #125 
  - I heard a caller on (I think it was) Ed Schultz  EarlG   Oct-14-07 05:21 PM   #15 
  - It's as plausible as any of the other theory.  Flabbergasted   Oct-14-07 05:52 PM   #20 
  - Interesting take.  pinto   Oct-14-07 06:52 PM   #23 
  - This could backfire horribly  Mojorabbit   Oct-14-07 10:17 PM   #26 
  - Turkey is already doing incursions into Iraq  CreekDog   Oct-14-07 10:35 PM   #31 
     - I know...  Mojorabbit   Oct-14-07 11:16 PM   #37 
        - keep worrying, but I doubt this changes the worry quotient  CreekDog   Oct-14-07 11:35 PM   #39 
  - Whatever the real "backstory", the only thing I know  AchtungToddler   Oct-15-07 12:33 AM   #46 
  - "Without access to Turkey the occupation would end."  endarkenment   Oct-15-07 11:52 AM   #115 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-14-07 05:31 PM   #16 
  - Your post pretty much sums it up for me  Jacobin   Oct-14-07 06:27 PM   #22 
  - Wonder if Pelosi is worried about Sheehan...  Wwagsthedog   Oct-15-07 01:09 AM   #54 
  - because it won't pass and because by the time it could pass  CreekDog   Oct-14-07 10:36 PM   #32 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-15-07 12:23 AM   #43 
  - This headline shows up at the IP link: .Turkish General Warns U.S. on Resolution  rodeodance   Oct-14-07 05:32 PM   #18 
  - Our genocidal histories  condejodido   Oct-14-07 09:27 PM   #25 
  - Or the bombings of Korea, Viet Nam, Cambodia and so forth,  ronnie624   Oct-15-07 10:02 AM   #82 
  - Why is she doing this?  nebula   Oct-14-07 10:31 PM   #28 
  - SEE # 44 POST  rodeodance   Oct-15-07 10:23 AM   #93 
  - What gets me about the posters here  CreekDog   Oct-14-07 10:38 PM   #33 
  - The Ottoman Empire is not modern Turkey  IndianaGreen   Oct-14-07 10:50 PM   #34 
  - I'll bet she would  CreekDog   Oct-14-07 10:55 PM   #36 
  - What about human rights and independence for the Iraqi people?  nebula   Oct-14-07 11:25 PM   #38 
  - Don't buy it  noise   Oct-15-07 12:12 AM   #40 
  - This Armenian could not disagree with you more  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 12:39 AM   #49 
  - Pelosi's  spotbird   Oct-15-07 09:26 AM   #78 
  - I was Armenian  48percenter   Oct-15-07 11:57 AM   #118 
     - So glad you are fighting for this bill!  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 12:02 PM   #119 
     - I am fighting too, this whole thing about the timing is stupid  alyce douglas   Oct-15-07 01:13 PM   #127 
  - this misguided resolution has 255 cosponsors  Enrique   Oct-15-07 09:49 AM   #80 
  - Is it possible  spotbird   Oct-15-07 10:07 AM   #84 
  - that's a valid point  Enrique   Oct-15-07 10:09 AM   #85 
  - SEE # 44 POST  rodeodance   Oct-15-07 10:26 AM   #96 
  - Incorrect. Ataturk was an advocate of the Armenian genocide  Leopolds Ghost   Oct-17-07 11:56 AM   #185 
  - The irony is killing me!  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 12:35 AM   #47 
  - Scale,  spotbird   Oct-15-07 09:10 AM   #75 
  - Who are "you people??!!"  Truth Hurts A Lot   Oct-15-07 09:43 PM   #153 
  - Sorry folks a stupid move, we were not even involved in the  Historic NY   Oct-15-07 12:16 AM   #41 
  - I'm an Armenian and I HOPE you are talking tongue-in-cheek  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 12:44 AM   #50 
  - Nothing against peoples rights...........  Historic NY   Oct-15-07 09:05 AM   #73 
  - "Next you know she will be apologizing for the Confederacy"  Leopolds Ghost   Oct-17-07 12:02 PM   #186 
  - American foreign policy hihacked.  autorank   Oct-15-07 12:22 AM   #42 
  - I could be wrong  noise   Oct-15-07 12:36 AM   #48 
  - "Turks treated the Armenians in just the very worst way" - 1.5 MILLION SLAUGHTERED  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 12:46 AM   #51 
  - "These Turks" are demonstrating complicity  ProudDad   Oct-15-07 02:05 AM   #58 
  - Actually, it isn't just as bad. nt  spotbird   Oct-15-07 10:11 AM   #86 
     - What would you say if Germany passed a law making it illegal to NOT deny the Holocaust  Leopolds Ghost   Oct-17-07 12:10 PM   #188 
  - the bill's 255 cosponsors disagree with you  Enrique   Oct-15-07 09:45 AM   #79 
  - Some surprising names on that list. Senselessbrenner and Issa?  AllyCat   Oct-16-07 01:34 AM   #160 
  - "It wasn't these Turks" -- explain. Ataturk was one of the supporters of the genocide  Leopolds Ghost   Oct-17-07 12:05 PM   #187 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-15-07 12:26 AM   #45 
  - How's that impeachment going, Nancy?  ProudDad   Oct-15-07 01:55 AM   #56 
  - Don't bother, darlin'.  Prisoner_Number_Six   Oct-15-07 08:21 AM   #70 
  - I think this whole thing is a ploy to try and throw a wrench into the  Sentinel Chicken   Oct-15-07 09:05 AM   #74 
  - Maybe she could fund  spotbird   Oct-15-07 09:23 AM   #76 
  - BINGO___SEE # 44 POST  rodeodance   Oct-15-07 10:25 AM   #94 
  - Your saying politics trumps troop support ?  ohio2007   Oct-15-07 09:02 PM   #149 
  - These words are almost identical to those used by Himmler to his SS killers in 1941.  rodeodance   Oct-15-07 10:17 AM   #87 
  - ^------- PLEASE READ THIS POST!!  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 12:54 PM   #123 
  - WE need to call for a leadership vote in the House  mikelgb   Oct-15-07 11:39 AM   #112 
  - Turkey and America  realpolitik   Oct-15-07 11:54 AM   #117 
  - Sure - show spine on this  dbackjon   Oct-15-07 12:39 PM   #120 
  - Wait unitl you see the repercussion of this vote  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 12:45 PM   #121 
  - Do you really think that would cause a change in strategery?  dbackjon   Oct-15-07 04:21 PM   #138 
     - Unpredictible behavior by a supposed ally?  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 10:21 PM   #154 
  - Bush success rating at historic low  Enrique   Oct-15-07 02:17 PM   #131 
  - Turkey shot their own foot, they have much to loose, and they  alyce douglas   Oct-15-07 12:49 PM   #122 
  - Hostility in these posts is exactly why Congress should stay out  JPZenger   Oct-15-07 01:08 PM   #126 
  - this all about US using Turkey for their illegal war to push supplies  alyce douglas   Oct-15-07 01:17 PM   #129 
  - Sorry  yellowwood   Oct-15-07 03:00 PM   #132 
  - It's the right thing to do - it's been 40 years of waiting  HughMoran   Oct-15-07 03:14 PM   #133 
  - Very Sorry  yellowwood   Oct-15-07 05:14 PM   #140 
  - NOW is not the right time!  Sukie1941   Oct-15-07 03:22 PM   #134 
  - well..... SEE # 44 POST  ohio2007   Oct-15-07 09:15 PM   #151 
  - Kind of complicated.....  Sukie1941   Oct-15-07 10:47 PM   #155 
     - Nancy flinched  ohio2007   Oct-16-07 07:53 PM   #177 
  - Maybe if they did a story about the successful passage of the resolution,  Leopolds Ghost   Oct-17-07 12:17 PM   #189 
  - Is there more going on here?  End Of The Road   Oct-15-07 03:39 PM   #136 
  - a deal is a deal  ohio2007   Oct-15-07 08:57 PM   #148 
  - bad headline, bad bad headline.  superconnected   Oct-15-07 04:46 PM   #139 
  - Turkey Recalls Diplomat Over Genocide Vote  ohio2007   Oct-15-07 08:53 PM   #147 
  - Maybe she is playing chicken with bush. Give us Schip, and we will  alfredo   Oct-15-07 09:30 PM   #152 
  - Well done Nancy!!  Dutch   Oct-16-07 10:54 AM   #167 
  - Pelosi cares more about what happened in 1915 than she does about our troops dying in Iraq today  IndianaGreen   Oct-16-07 11:09 AM   #168 
  - I'd rather see something done about the genocide that is occurring in Darfur  noonwitch   Oct-16-07 01:46 PM   #171 
  - Doing something about Dafur will only upset the Chinese  ohio2007   Oct-16-07 02:16 PM   #172 
  - Good for her...  Endangered Specie   Oct-16-07 05:23 PM   #174 
  - OK, here's a far-fetched alternative hypothesis...  skids   Oct-16-07 06:31 PM   #176 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-16-07 10:28 PM   #178 
 

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