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Wed Jan-07-04 10:11 AM
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I remember more than a little debate about just that from last year in the British press. Do you really believe that the sons and daughters of coal miners have an easy shot at Oxbridge? No. Quality university education is still largely reserved for graduates of public schools. And that's a losing formula.
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| -Blair: I'll take Britain into euro by 2007 |
Thankfully_in_Britain |
Jan-07-04 02:47 AM |
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A lot would have to change for Blair to win a referendum on this. |
rjbcar27 |
Jan-07-04 03:32 AM |
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Hey Priscilla," take the Poodle out" |
saigon68 |
Jan-07-04 03:53 AM |
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Nah |
Spentastic |
Jan-07-04 03:59 AM |
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El Presidente |
Nihil |
Jan-07-04 04:55 AM |
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Grrr, it would be easier if I stopped thinking. |
rjbcar27 |
Jan-07-04 05:35 AM |
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Expanding university education is one of the greatest things Blair wants.. |
AP |
Jan-07-04 09:05 AM |
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What's wrong with university education for all? |
mobuto |
Jan-07-04 09:06 AM |
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The US gives a university education to 50% of highschool graduates |
AP |
Jan-07-04 09:07 AM |
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Agreed |
mobuto |
Jan-07-04 09:13 AM |
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Another brilliant thing about Blair's plan: |
AP |
Jan-07-04 09:15 AM |
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It's about quality and access |
Spentastic |
Jan-07-04 09:28 AM |
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Perhaps you've deepy absorbed the class system in a way you don't |
AP |
Jan-07-04 09:37 AM |
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You may be right |
Spentastic |
Jan-07-04 09:54 AM |
#25 |
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Education is about opportunity, not ability. And society should be equal.. |
AP |
Jan-07-04 10:05 AM |
#26 |
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Fully agreed |
Spentastic |
Jan-07-04 10:09 AM |
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50% is what the US has today and it's not enough. |
AP |
Jan-07-04 10:12 AM |
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Are those people |
Spentastic |
Jan-07-04 10:19 AM |
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The more education you have, the more likely you vote Democratic. |
AP |
Jan-07-04 10:30 AM |
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Opportunity is a process, not a point in time. |
westman |
Jan-08-04 10:11 AM |
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Except you don't |
mobuto |
Jan-07-04 10:11 AM |
#29 |
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Oxbridge |
Spentastic |
Jan-07-04 10:13 AM |
#31 |
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Variable level fees? |
AP |
Jan-07-04 10:19 AM |
#35 |
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Grrr |
Spentastic |
Jan-07-04 10:29 AM |
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I didn't say they didn't. |
AP |
Jan-07-04 10:32 AM |
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No, relatively few working class kids go to Oxford and Cambridge |
mobuto |
Jan-07-04 10:38 AM |
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Over half are from state schools |
Spentastic |
Jan-07-04 10:54 AM |
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Well, no |
mobuto |
Jan-07-04 11:36 AM |
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that would be A levels, not O levels |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jan-07-04 12:34 PM |
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O-Levels and destiny. |
AP |
Jan-07-04 01:24 PM |
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It's about 41-43% that go to Uni (nt) |
Monkey see Monkey Do |
Jan-07-04 03:00 PM |
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In the UK? |
AP |
Jan-07-04 10:07 PM |
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"Currently, 43 per cent of school-leavers go on to university" |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jan-08-04 05:19 AM |
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So Blair only wants to bump that up 25%? |
AP |
Jan-08-04 11:57 AM |
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Denial |
lordwhorfin |
Jan-08-04 11:01 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-08-04 11:23 AM |
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You say I'm wrong because you work with 75 UK partners? |
AP |
Jan-08-04 11:46 AM |
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Well here's a paper by Charles Clarke |
Monkey see Monkey Do |
Jan-08-04 12:59 PM |
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America decided as much in the 50s. |
AP |
Jan-07-04 10:15 AM |
#32 |
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A little anti-Democratic sentiment? |
mobuto |
Jan-07-04 10:08 AM |
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I'll have to do some reading |
Spentastic |
Jan-07-04 10:16 AM |
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Professors do move for academic reasons. Research money is shamefully |
AP |
Jan-07-04 10:29 AM |
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Too true. |
AP |
Jan-07-04 10:22 AM |
#36 |
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Nonsense |
lordwhorfin |
Jan-08-04 11:06 AM |
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what's wrong with the euro rjbcar27 ? |
Flagg |
Jan-07-04 05:47 AM |
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One thing entering the Euro will do is |
AP |
Jan-07-04 09:09 AM |
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The Euro is a corporate currency |
Thankfully_in_Britain |
Jan-07-04 12:15 PM |
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Please explain |
mobuto |
Jan-07-04 12:24 PM |
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From the article |
Thankfully_in_Britain |
Jan-07-04 12:28 PM |
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What do you think the US is run by? The pound is subservient to the dollar |
AP |
Jan-07-04 01:27 PM |
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The idea of Europe being regulation-free |
mobuto |
Jan-07-04 02:33 PM |
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Have another read of the article |
Thankfully_in_Britain |
Jan-08-04 02:31 AM |
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big business doesn't need the Euro to dominate. They'll dominate anyway. |
AP |
Jan-08-04 09:45 AM |
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Yer Wot??? |
Thankfully_in_Britain |
Jan-08-04 10:58 AM |
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I know. I just disagree. |
AP |
Jan-08-04 12:21 PM |
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It's not that you disagree, it's that you distort. |
Thankfully_in_Britain |
Jan-09-04 02:30 AM |
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I believe the progressives (like Anna Lind) in Sweden SUPPORTED the Euro |
AP |
Jan-09-04 02:37 AM |
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Hmm |
aneerkoinos |
Jan-09-04 11:23 AM |
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Once again, a pound that is, de facto, subservient to the dollar is less |
AP |
Jan-07-04 01:26 PM |
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Nonsense |
Thankfully_in_Britain |
Jan-08-04 02:27 AM |
#66 |
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The problem with the ERM was fighting the market |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jan-08-04 05:25 AM |
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The US is trying to force a global recession today, regardless of Euro. |
AP |
Jan-08-04 09:47 AM |
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Ah, the counterbalance argument. |
Thankfully_in_Britain |
Jan-08-04 10:46 AM |
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Dean, Clark, whoever |
aneerkoinos |
Jan-08-04 11:23 AM |
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All the same |
Thankfully_in_Britain |
Jan-08-04 11:26 AM |
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The counterbalance argument always makes sense... |
AP |
Jan-08-04 07:20 PM |
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I'll bite Flagg |
Thankfully_in_Britain |
Jan-07-04 12:21 PM |
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So you're holding out for the right |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jan-07-04 07:29 AM |
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No |
Spentastic |
Jan-07-04 07:33 AM |
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They are already controlled by police forces |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jan-07-04 07:49 AM |
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Have you ever dealt |
Spentastic |
Jan-07-04 08:01 AM |
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This sounds like a job for ANGLE GRINDER MAN |
Thankfully_in_Britain |
Jan-07-04 12:24 PM |
#48 |
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No, the Euro is a good thing |
mobuto |
Jan-07-04 09:00 AM |
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I'm no Europhobe |
Spentastic |
Jan-07-04 09:05 AM |
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At this point, Britain has no control |
mobuto |
Jan-07-04 09:11 AM |
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agreed. |
AP |
Jan-07-04 09:13 AM |
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Hold up |
Spentastic |
Jan-07-04 09:33 AM |
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Britain doesn't have effective control of monetary policy today. DC has |
AP |
Jan-07-04 09:12 AM |
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No |
Thankfully_in_Britain |
Jan-07-04 12:05 PM |
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'92. Those were great days, what with Bush I screwing up world economies. |
AP |
Jan-07-04 10:11 PM |
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Er yes |
Thankfully_in_Britain |
Jan-08-04 02:40 AM |
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Free floating? It's going up now because Bush wants a soft dollar |
AP |
Jan-08-04 09:49 AM |
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Hello from Germany, |
Dirk39 |
Jan-07-04 10:40 PM |
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Euro or no Euro, Europe is in danger of becoming a corporotocracy |
AP |
Jan-07-04 11:17 PM |
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You're right about the current situation, |
Dirk39 |
Jan-07-04 11:36 PM |
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That's were the democracy deficit comes into play. |
AP |
Jan-08-04 09:51 AM |
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why EU |
aneerkoinos |
Jan-08-04 11:53 AM |
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Is he still gonna be around by 2007??? |
goforit |
Jan-07-04 02:12 PM |
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I see this as Tony |
realpolitik |
Jan-07-04 10:22 PM |
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So how is he going to do this from jail? |
leesa |
Jan-07-04 10:49 PM |
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If Marx would still be alive, he might have said somehting like... |
Dirk39 |
Jan-07-04 10:53 PM |
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So airstrip one will not be part of Oceania? |
bemildred |
Jan-07-04 11:13 PM |
#63 |
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