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37. So do I.
...but I still have major difficulty envisioning how someone could choke themselves with handcuffs...

It makes no sense.
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  -Family Mourns Woman Who Died at Airport Hissyspit  Sep-30-07 07:22 PM   #0 
  - She does not look like a wild and crazy lady.  BrklynLiberal   Sep-30-07 07:24 PM   #1 
  - not that they compare in any way,  ccpup   Sep-30-07 07:37 PM   #4 
  - There 's a super successful asshole like that who lives across the street  barb162   Oct-01-07 11:56 PM   #94 
  - you think she (a) always acted that way and (b) posed for pictures when she was?  onenote   Sep-30-07 08:11 PM   #23 
  - maybe it was not suicide as they suggest but....  Born Free   Oct-01-07 04:39 AM   #70 
  - Something is missing from this story.  MissMarple   Sep-30-07 07:32 PM   #2 
  - This story stinks! If they handcuffed her with her hands behind her  snappyturtle   Sep-30-07 07:41 PM   #6 
  - The public arena seems to be getting more authoritarian. nt  terisan   Sep-30-07 07:56 PM   #16 
  - I agree and I can't help but wonder what the motivation is behind  snappyturtle   Sep-30-07 08:11 PM   #21 
     - You would get the same response  Pavulon   Sep-30-07 08:20 PM   #28 
        - You can, anyone can. It is how one is treated by those in authority that is the issue. nt  terisan   Sep-30-07 08:27 PM   #30 
           - She needed to think  Pavulon   Sep-30-07 08:31 PM   #32 
           - How do you know she was not mentally ill, having a medication reaction?  terisan   Sep-30-07 08:42 PM   #35 
           - I'm tired of your shit  ProudDad   Oct-01-07 11:16 PM   #89 
           - You are correct! nm  8643   Oct-01-07 08:19 AM   #78 
  - Your avatar says how I feel right now. All of these stories stink and they are coming  LeviathanCrumbling   Sep-30-07 10:26 PM   #51 
  - agreed, there is something missing from this story....  mike_c   Oct-01-07 10:28 AM   #85 
  - Me either...  sendero   Oct-01-07 06:32 AM   #75 
  - I agree. Maybe she became a real wild woman over missing that flight?  barb162   Oct-02-07 12:00 AM   #95 
  - If there was wrong-doing I think the NYC Public Advocate will find it out.  terisan   Sep-30-07 07:35 PM   #3 
  - You must be joking  maseman   Sep-30-07 07:48 PM   #10 
     - My flights are few and far between  Sukie1941   Sep-30-07 08:09 PM   #20 
     - Travel  maseman   Sep-30-07 10:10 PM   #47 
        - Thank ray-gun for the genisis of that  ProudDad   Oct-01-07 11:24 PM   #91 
     - joking?  shelster   Sep-30-07 10:24 PM   #50 
     - Exactly....how can anyone say the hell with her because she  Feeney2   Oct-01-07 08:23 AM   #79 
     - My last one was not anything like that  Mojorabbit   Sep-30-07 11:11 PM   #61 
  - Hmmmmm.  liberalmuse   Sep-30-07 07:39 PM   #5 
  - I suspect she had an unknown underlying medical problem.  Ilsa   Sep-30-07 07:42 PM   #7 
  - Which might have caused the anger, but the "strangling"?  aquart   Sep-30-07 10:52 PM   #59 
  - This one smells funny to me. Its horrible, however it happened.  wlucinda   Sep-30-07 07:42 PM   #8 
  - I remember an incident once  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-30-07 07:43 PM   #9 
  - got a link to that incident? sounds urban-legendish to me.  ret5hd   Sep-30-07 07:51 PM   #11 
  - It was legitimately reported but... between us, I'm waiting for the autopsy.  Kagemusha   Sep-30-07 07:56 PM   #15 
  - Are you suggesting that they killed her and then are pretending that  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-30-07 08:00 PM   #17 
  - Are you suggesting that cops don't kill people in jails?  ret5hd   Sep-30-07 09:28 PM   #43 
  - Since they didn't define chokeing, i'll give you this.  TX-RAT   Oct-01-07 08:44 AM   #80 
     - That was my thought too.  KurtNYC   Oct-01-07 10:21 AM   #84 
        - Oh, brother.  KayLaw   Oct-01-07 10:41 AM   #86 
  - Did that happen in Bothell, by any chance?  Suich   Sep-30-07 07:53 PM   #12 
  - not that one, but I remember it too.  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-30-07 08:04 PM   #19 
     - Small world, huh?  Suich   Sep-30-07 08:25 PM   #29 
  - How about an ambulance? How about a Traveler's Aid Counselor?  terisan   Sep-30-07 07:55 PM   #14 
  - We are all making assumptions about what her intent was after the fact.  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-30-07 08:03 PM   #18 
     - I expect a level of service that does not simply handcuff and isolate a screaming person. She is as  terisan   Sep-30-07 08:15 PM   #25 
     - you don't fly much do you, people run in airports to their gate ALL THE TIME  pitohui   Sep-30-07 09:04 PM   #39 
  - i see people running to their gate every day actually  pitohui   Sep-30-07 09:02 PM   #38 
     - Shades of OJ Simpson!!!  Bobbieo   Sep-30-07 09:20 PM   #42 
  - granted ...  LaStrega   Sep-30-07 07:53 PM   #13 
  - So do I.  NYC   Sep-30-07 09:00 PM   #37 
  - Interesting article in NY Times on animal empathy ---helping vs. hurting  terisan   Sep-30-07 08:11 PM   #22 
  - they only checked on her when she stopped screaming!  leftchick   Sep-30-07 08:14 PM   #24 
  - Your outrage is justified. The inhumanity of this woman's death sickens me. nt  terisan   Sep-30-07 08:18 PM   #26 
  - Visit your local drunk tank  Pavulon   Sep-30-07 08:19 PM   #27 
     - Is there any evidence she was drunk? We have the capability of handling these issues  terisan   Sep-30-07 08:31 PM   #31 
     - No reason to believe  Pavulon   Sep-30-07 08:33 PM   #33 
     - exactly  ccpup   Sep-30-07 08:39 PM   #34 
        - You are making a lot of assumptions. What if she were schizophrenic and meds stopped working?  terisan   Sep-30-07 08:52 PM   #36 
           - or diabetic  pitohui   Sep-30-07 09:10 PM   #40 
              - There is no right  Pavulon   Sep-30-07 09:15 PM   #41 
                 - Perhaps not, but it isn't a death penalty type action. Explain how one chokes onself  1monster   Sep-30-07 09:40 PM   #44 
                 - Re deliberately.  NYC   Sep-30-07 09:58 PM   #46 
                 - Actually people have been cuffed and/or arrested and been guilty of nothing. Arrest not =guilt.  terisan   Sep-30-07 10:32 PM   #55 
  - most police are authoritarian fascists....  scarface2004   Sep-30-07 09:41 PM   #45 
  - Speak for your own cops.  aquart   Sep-30-07 10:43 PM   #58 
     - If you mean New York City  ProudDad   Oct-01-07 11:31 PM   #92 
  - This is very fishy  fujiyama   Sep-30-07 10:11 PM   #48 
  - I agree, very fishy  shelster   Sep-30-07 10:19 PM   #49 
  - I agree...my intuition tells me that something is missing here and she didn't just happen to die  Pachamama   Oct-01-07 10:43 AM   #87 
  - CSI: Las Vegas had an episode that sort of echoed this except it happened inflight...  DRoseDARs   Sep-30-07 10:28 PM   #52 
  - Some of the reactions on this thread bother me (as do the responses to the  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-30-07 10:28 PM   #53 
  - Adamnmen!  lonestarnot   Sep-30-07 10:35 PM   #57 
  - i'm glad i'm not the only one  Naythan   Sep-30-07 11:12 PM   #62 
  - Handclasp.  MissMarple   Oct-01-07 12:20 AM   #66 
  - Authoritarians believe the police can do no wrong...  Solon   Oct-01-07 04:26 AM   #69 
  - Thank you. . . . n/t  annabanana   Oct-01-07 05:57 AM   #72 
  - Thank You  atreides1   Oct-01-07 07:55 AM   #77 
  - Amen  ProudDad   Oct-01-07 11:33 PM   #93 
  - time span  Savannah_H   Sep-30-07 10:32 PM   #54 
  - Oops. They didn't know she had VIP connections.  aquart   Sep-30-07 10:32 PM   #56 
  - Ok.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Sep-30-07 11:11 PM   #60 
  - Good point!  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-30-07 11:15 PM   #63 
  - Been Wondering The Same Thing  lligrd   Oct-01-07 03:35 AM   #68 
  - Re: Feeling lost.  Hissyspit   Oct-01-07 06:09 AM   #73 
  - I know.......  sendero   Oct-01-07 06:41 AM   #76 
  - In a Yahoo news report they said it was Phoenix PD that handled it  sasquatch   Oct-01-07 10:35 PM   #88 
  - Maybe I'll get flamed for this, but I doubt the cops killed her.  cigsandcoffee   Sep-30-07 11:20 PM   #64 
  - The cover story is implausible  Lydia Leftcoast   Oct-01-07 12:23 AM   #67 
  - How?  KayLaw   Oct-01-07 09:00 AM   #81 
  - NY Daily News Article  terisan   Sep-30-07 11:22 PM   #65 
  - Soon we'll hear about Post mortem finger bruises on neck....nt  LeftHander   Oct-01-07 05:38 AM   #71 
  - She probably had a panic attack being locked up with handcuffs on.  Vinca   Oct-01-07 06:17 AM   #74 
  - Strangled herself trying to get out of handcuffs... hmmm....  Jed Dilligan   Oct-01-07 09:13 AM   #82 
  - She was killed.  Taverner   Oct-01-07 10:20 AM   #83 
  - I used to love to fly  ProudDad   Oct-01-07 11:22 PM   #90 
  - Restraint Asphyxia - Hobbled and laying on stomach...  LeftHander   Oct-02-07 07:36 AM   #96 
 

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