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| 80. Please, please - explain the stand down. My gut has been telling |
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Edited on Wed Sep-05-07 10:01 AM by higher class
me that their second Pearl Harbor (that they are wishing for - Addington) will be here in this country. We know we had an 'exercise going on Sep 11 01 that appeared to confuse the hell out of everyone. We have the report about put-option manuevers time for Sep. 21?
What is this stand down?
Getting the Dems to approve of killing Iranians is not enough. There is no proof of what we claim coming from the U.N. We have madmen with little imagination and death and profits on their minds. Bombing Iran is not a defense requirement - for the U.S. It is for the reverends and some in Israel and the corporations.
Why would they have to move nuclear stuff to LA?
Having gut feelings is not fun. Please define stand down.
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| -Nuclear warheads mistakenly flown on B-52 |
TexasLawyer |
Sep-05-07 12:15 AM |
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Holy fucking shit! |
lonestarnot |
Sep-05-07 12:18 AM |
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you can say that again |
Snarkturian Clone |
Sep-05-07 08:56 PM |
#132 |
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"That page has gone AWOL" - - surprise, surprise. |
Bluebear |
Sep-05-07 12:27 AM |
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I'm glad I spotted the article before it vanished |
TexasLawyer |
Sep-05-07 12:32 AM |
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Like everything else in Bushworld, as long as it is scrubbed, it never happened. |
Bluebear |
Sep-05-07 12:34 AM |
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Just a mystery. |
lonestarnot |
Sep-05-07 01:15 AM |
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Must have a bad link here is the right page |
sce56 |
Sep-05-07 01:58 AM |
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ROFL!!! |
Megahurtz |
Sep-05-07 01:42 PM |
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Your comment may be too subtle for the Majority, Megahurtz. |
Ghost Dog |
Sep-05-07 04:37 PM |
#118 |
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I Know, |
Megahurtz |
Sep-05-07 06:36 PM |
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The article is spreading! n/t |
BadgerKid |
Sep-05-07 10:25 AM |
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The OP left the trainling "/" off the URL. |
drm604 |
Sep-05-07 02:00 AM |
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Hey I beat you to it by two minutes! |
sce56 |
Sep-05-07 02:08 AM |
#27 |
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No - it's a bug with the DU messageboard siftware |
bananas |
Sep-05-07 02:46 AM |
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New link to article |
chwaliszewski |
Sep-05-07 03:57 AM |
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isn't it great how the TV media is all over this--Reliable Sources?? |
Supersedeas |
Sep-07-07 06:50 AM |
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Naw, they just moved it, they do that shit frequently--here's the link, it's ALL there... |
MADem |
Sep-05-07 04:20 AM |
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IT's gone |
WileEcoyote |
Sep-05-07 08:30 AM |
#68 |
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They simply UPDATED the story.All need to cease with the paranoia. |
MADem |
Sep-05-07 08:56 PM |
#133 |
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It's still showing on San Francisco Gate |
Sequoia |
Sep-05-07 10:54 AM |
#93 |
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No mystery |
Kelvin Mace |
Sep-05-07 09:04 PM |
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A whole chain of people who screwed up--munitions, weapons loaders, crew chiefs, maybe |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-05-07 12:29 AM |
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I used to interact with nuke warheads in the Navy... |
Shipwack |
Sep-05-07 03:40 AM |
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Well, this was the AIR FORCE that fucked up, not the Navy!! |
MADem |
Sep-05-07 04:24 AM |
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What needs to be down-sized is the nuclear arsenal |
Eagle_Eye |
Sep-05-07 05:47 AM |
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True, true, but... |
Shipwack |
Sep-05-07 05:02 PM |
#120 |
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Get a load of this, from the latest reports--MASSIVE CLUSTERFUCK! |
MADem |
Sep-05-07 09:10 PM |
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I agree - I was an "unlock" team member while in the U.S.A.F. |
DrDan |
Sep-05-07 08:36 AM |
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I was on a FBM submarine for 4 years at sea on and off. We handled nuclear missiles several times |
nealmhughes |
Sep-05-07 10:20 PM |
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plausible deniability? |
Supersedeas |
Sep-11-07 11:00 AM |
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Here's another link to the article |
TexasLawyer |
Sep-05-07 12:44 AM |
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'which left the warheads unaccounted for during the approximately 3 1/2 hour flight' |
Bluebear |
Sep-05-07 12:51 AM |
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Nuclear personnel are supposed to know where every nuke is, every second of the day. |
BadgerLaw2010 |
Sep-05-07 04:15 PM |
#115 |
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"Accident?" Or, maybe, nefarious plans that weren't executed? |
PSPS |
Sep-05-07 12:54 AM |
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Um...test run anyone? |
jgraz |
Sep-05-07 12:55 AM |
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Dry runs are worse than the hershey squirts. |
lonestarnot |
Sep-05-07 01:13 AM |
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I think you nailed it, test run that was leaked. IMHO of course. |
sarcasmo |
Sep-05-07 03:21 PM |
#113 |
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It's certainly an INCOMPETENT method of getting America used to an old paradigm once more. |
MADem |
Sep-05-07 09:04 PM |
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Mistakenly? |
Whoa_Nelly |
Sep-05-07 12:58 AM |
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Mistakenly? Indeed |
donheld |
Sep-05-07 01:15 AM |
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Imagine the pilots afte they landed... |
krispos42 |
Sep-05-07 01:14 AM |
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At least they didn't go on a practice bombing run |
IndianaGreen |
Sep-05-07 02:03 AM |
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Actually, nuclear weapons are never armed during transport. |
TheWraith |
Sep-05-07 02:41 AM |
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That's what I meant. |
krispos42 |
Sep-05-07 02:21 PM |
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"Say, that looks like part of a nuclear warhead" |
TheWraith |
Sep-05-07 04:27 PM |
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Tragic accident (especially for the 7 immediately dead). Meanwhile, in the ongoing real world: |
Ghost Dog |
Sep-05-07 05:33 PM |
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I heard there's a lost nuke in the ocean off of Georgia, too |
krispos42 |
Sep-06-07 01:09 AM |
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Armed or not is irrelevent. They won't explode on a crash. |
BadgerLaw2010 |
Sep-05-07 06:22 AM |
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but they will crack up on impact, and spread nice little |
antifaschits |
Sep-05-07 08:07 AM |
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not a big deal, Pu239 isn't that dangerous. |
Sirveri |
Sep-05-07 09:26 AM |
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But NASA gets a boatload of fire from the environmentalists... |
krispos42 |
Sep-05-07 02:31 PM |
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The concern with the plutonium in NASA's launches is a Challenger-type disaster. |
BadgerLaw2010 |
Sep-05-07 04:11 PM |
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Ah, but imagine the amorous atmosphere... |
krispos42 |
Sep-06-07 01:10 AM |
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Oh, I know. But chunks of plutonium are not something to be taken lightly. n/t |
krispos42 |
Sep-05-07 02:32 PM |
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If the plane crashed, there'd be no mushroom cloud, but certainly not a good thing. |
MADem |
Sep-05-07 09:14 PM |
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OMFG! |
pirhana |
Sep-05-07 01:21 AM |
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The Officier is at fault |
burrowowl |
Sep-05-07 01:32 AM |
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I bet one thing is for sure |
pirhana |
Sep-05-07 01:34 AM |
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When we fuck up in the Air Force, we fuck up BIG! |
MrScorpio |
Sep-05-07 01:23 AM |
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Pure coincidence that it was the Navy Times that published the story |
IndianaGreen |
Sep-05-07 02:09 AM |
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No--ALL the "Military Times" papers had it--Army, Navy, USAF, USMC. |
MADem |
Sep-05-07 04:29 AM |
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No wonder why we can't control nukes in Russia, Iraq or anywhere else |
pirhana |
Sep-05-07 01:40 AM |
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"Air Combat Command will have a command-wide mission stand down Sept. 14" |
satya |
Sep-05-07 01:52 AM |
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I hope that means that some heads are gonna roll. |
pirhana |
Sep-05-07 02:06 AM |
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Getting all their birds and crews in order before sustained combat operations |
krispos42 |
Sep-05-07 02:07 AM |
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No sorties |
MrScorpio |
Sep-05-07 02:17 AM |
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Thanks, all; I'll sleep better now. This got me thinking about the 9-11-01 exercises |
satya |
Sep-05-07 02:34 AM |
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MAYBE---It Means that Bombing Iran Is OFF!! |
Demeter |
Sep-05-07 05:22 AM |
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Be on the lookout |
tnlurker |
Sep-05-07 07:29 AM |
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Sounds like it means the country will be undefended on Sept. 14th. |
MilesColtrane |
Sep-05-07 07:58 AM |
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Shit. A stand down in Sept when cheney is in a corner |
havocmom |
Sep-05-07 10:01 AM |
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that, to me, was the scariest part of the article |
arcane1 |
Sep-05-07 10:46 AM |
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My guess is it will almost certainly mean |
anotheryellowdog |
Sep-05-07 10:59 PM |
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Hmm, who are we going to "accidentally" nuke? |
Vidar |
Sep-05-07 02:05 AM |
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Opps... |
DRoseDARs |
Sep-05-07 02:38 AM |
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The weapons should never be out of their shipping containers |
formercia |
Sep-05-07 09:38 AM |
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Ah, at last somebody is acting to protect our precious bodily fluids. |
lvx35 |
Sep-05-07 02:38 AM |
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What. |
Dr_eldritch |
Sep-05-07 03:10 AM |
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Why were these missiles armed in the first place? |
colorado_ufo |
Sep-05-07 04:17 AM |
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Sure. They do that shit all the time. Any service with nukes does. |
MADem |
Sep-05-07 04:32 AM |
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Seems like there would be an overwhelming amount of security to overcome |
colorado_ufo |
Sep-06-07 04:26 AM |
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Yep, there's checklists up the ying yang. What some of my friends are postulating is that |
MADem |
Sep-06-07 01:25 PM |
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Mistake? MY FUCKING ASS!!!! |
liberal N proud |
Sep-05-07 05:21 AM |
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Nobody moves nukes without a lot of controls. |
formercia |
Sep-05-07 06:18 AM |
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So there was a big error and that requires a Stand Down to go over proceedure? |
havocmom |
Sep-05-07 10:07 AM |
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has your chocolate alert level been raised to Caramel? |
DS1 |
Sep-05-07 10:53 AM |
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Bleah! Life is too short to eat caramel |
havocmom |
Sep-05-07 06:18 PM |
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Hmm, where did we leave those pesky nukes? |
rox63 |
Sep-05-07 06:03 AM |
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BFD. A hydrogen bomb was actually dropped on Albuquerque |
LandOLincoln |
Sep-05-07 06:27 AM |
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LOL |
antifaschits |
Sep-05-07 08:09 AM |
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The US lost 11 altogether. Globally around 50 have been lost. |
Xithras |
Sep-05-07 01:49 PM |
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Cheney's trying to steal a bomb! IMO |
Joanne98 |
Sep-05-07 06:39 AM |
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Headed for Iran? |
BridgeTheGap |
Sep-05-07 07:11 AM |
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2 things come to mind here |
Gman |
Sep-05-07 07:15 AM |
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Good questions. I can't believe our military is so "sloppy" they |
Vinca |
Sep-05-07 07:26 AM |
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Or creating just enough worry to justify the Stand Down? |
havocmom |
Sep-05-07 10:10 AM |
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2 responses |
Pavulon |
Sep-09-07 09:20 AM |
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Interesting |
KC2 |
Sep-05-07 07:26 AM |
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not one link worked for me. except the one from 1957. |
Peggy Day |
Sep-05-07 07:41 AM |
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Maybe.. |
JawJaw |
Sep-05-07 07:41 AM |
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1. Heads better fucking roll over this |
Odin2005 |
Sep-05-07 07:47 AM |
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Here's a local news link that works (with video). |
Skinner |
Sep-05-07 07:54 AM |
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I can't even get any of the Military Times' home pages to load |
Rose Siding |
Sep-05-07 08:26 AM |
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MSNBC is reporting on this now as breaking news. |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-05-07 08:07 AM |
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This happened last thurday though apparently |
shadowknows69 |
Sep-05-07 08:39 AM |
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Whoops! Good thing they didn't end up getting loaded on a plane to Iraq |
JVS |
Sep-05-07 08:09 AM |
#63 |
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Another Dick Cheney moment... |
whistle |
Sep-05-07 08:28 AM |
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BushSpin - Iranian Radical Freedom Haters Smuggle Nukes aboard Peaceful B-52 |
paparush |
Sep-05-07 08:30 AM |
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OMG |
lonestarnot |
Sep-05-07 09:12 AM |
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You mean BUFF's, right? |
BrotherBuzz |
Sep-05-07 11:08 AM |
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Wouldn't someone need Presidential clearance |
shadowknows69 |
Sep-05-07 08:37 AM |
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They woke the bushitler up. He rolled over and said |
lonestarnot |
Sep-05-07 09:15 AM |
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No. |
Thothmes |
Sep-05-07 10:31 AM |
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Maybe That's Why |
Megahurtz |
Sep-05-07 02:09 PM |
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Two more sources: Air Force lost track of five nuclear missiles (Flew from ND to LA on August 30) |
seafan |
Sep-05-07 08:51 AM |
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Coming Soon to an Airport Near You! |
paparush |
Sep-05-07 09:20 AM |
#75 |
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Mounted On The Wings Yet? |
Megahurtz |
Sep-05-07 02:04 PM |
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They forgot Rule Number One of cruise missile safety |
slackmaster |
Sep-05-07 09:31 AM |
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Just a little "oops" there guys. |
Desertrose |
Sep-05-07 09:48 AM |
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Please, please - explain the stand down. My gut has been telling |
higher class |
Sep-05-07 10:00 AM |
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In the military, when a unit screws up royally, they stand down, which |
wienerdoggie |
Sep-05-07 10:37 AM |
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Why Sep 14? Why not Aug 31? Thanks for your reply. |
higher class |
Sep-05-07 12:20 PM |
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Well, one could claim it takes a bit of planning... |
Shipwack |
Sep-05-07 04:51 PM |
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THIS IS BEING SAFER IN A POST 9/11 WORLD??!?!?!?!?!?!?!? |
LSK |
Sep-05-07 10:02 AM |
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Now another reason why we should have no nukes! |
Crowman1979 |
Sep-05-07 10:16 AM |
#85 |
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"Mistakenly" |
bamacrat |
Sep-05-07 10:20 AM |
#86 |
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Hurricanes |
Summer93 |
Sep-05-07 11:29 AM |
#98 |
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BBC LINK HERE |
DS1 |
Sep-05-07 10:43 AM |
#90 |
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We'll meet again, don't know where, don't know when |
Orrex |
Sep-05-07 10:59 AM |
#94 |
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Turgidson advocates a further nuclear attack to prevent a Soviet response to Ripper's attack |
Buck Turgidson |
Sep-05-07 11:18 AM |
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Navy flying B-52s now? |
mahatmakanejeeves |
Sep-05-07 11:28 AM |
#97 |
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Careless dumb bunch of bastards. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Sep-05-07 11:29 AM |
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Just a little somthing for Putin to ponder |
ohio2007 |
Sep-05-07 11:53 AM |
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some guy on cnn said heads will roll. oh really? i'll believe that when i see it. n/t |
orleans |
Sep-05-07 12:42 PM |
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Oh, people will be fired for this. Someone(s) at Minot lost five nukes for 3 1/2 hours. |
BadgerLaw2010 |
Sep-05-07 04:18 PM |
#116 |
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Oh But We Don't Have Nuclear Weapons |
Megahurtz |
Sep-05-07 01:37 PM |
#103 |
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Damn. |
Ghost Dog |
Sep-05-07 02:02 PM |
#106 |
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Minot Air Force Base’s Northern Neighbors open house and air show Saturday |
Snazzy |
Sep-05-07 03:10 PM |
#112 |
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Interesting comments from Navy Times readers |
TexasLawyer |
Sep-05-07 05:18 PM |
#121 |
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"Bigger picture here folks........ |
chill_wind |
Sep-05-07 07:07 PM |
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Im surprised that they didn't blame al qaida |
Orrin_73 |
Sep-05-07 06:39 PM |
#125 |
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I think this story should be tied to the put-options story - I don't |
higher class |
Sep-05-07 07:59 PM |
#127 |
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There has to be more to the story..... |
Bennyboy |
Sep-05-07 08:13 PM |
#128 |
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Yep, we only have to figure out which city is going to do it for them - |
higher class |
Sep-05-07 08:18 PM |
#129 |
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I suspect a made for tee-vee CNN Psy-Ops story intended for Putin. |
chill_wind |
Sep-05-07 08:46 PM |
#130 |
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I am soo glad it didn't crash into any "towers" |
Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel |
Sep-05-07 08:50 PM |
#131 |
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Accidentally? Forgot? |
Baby Snooks |
Sep-05-07 09:58 PM |
#138 |
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Psyops? Fiction? A terrible blunder? |
entanglement |
Sep-05-07 10:16 PM |
#139 |
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maybe a cry for help? and that is why the story was leaked? |
orleans |
Sep-05-07 11:05 PM |
#143 |
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Maybe it was a test run... |
GoddessOfGuinness |
Sep-05-07 10:42 PM |
#141 |
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I'm glad they didn't, er, drop one. Ahem. nt |
calteacherguy |
Sep-05-07 11:18 PM |
#144 |
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What a load of unbelievable crap -- and the Navy Times is reporting it -- ???? hmmmm |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-07 11:34 PM |
#145 |
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A mix up "mistake" could allow George to do some nuclear damage while only "intending" . . . . |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-07 11:36 PM |
#146 |
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Mistake my ass.....the discovery fucked up a PLOT of some sort...IMHO |
opihimoimoi |
Sep-06-07 06:13 AM |
#150 |
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Stand down September 14? |
yojon |
Sep-06-07 02:56 PM |
#152 |
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The Shortage of Virgins was met by a RUSH ORDER of those Vinyl HOOTERs with 6 batteries |
opihimoimoi |
Sep-06-07 08:51 PM |
#153 |
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Talk about national security issue! - why has this story been allowed leaked to us? |
Imagevision |
Sep-06-07 09:32 PM |
#154 |
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Fallout Continues From Bomber Flight |
Snazzy |
Sep-07-07 02:25 PM |
#156 |
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"...and had a hard time convincing superiors..." |
havocmom |
Sep-07-07 07:02 PM |
#157 |
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Key to success: the “little brown book” |
seemslikeadream |
Sep-07-07 08:02 PM |
#158 |
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Inside Job |
The Pundit |
Sep-08-07 05:15 PM |
#159 |
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Would you like to buy a W80-1 warhead? |
leaninglib |
Sep-08-07 10:55 PM |
#160 |
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