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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 01:55 PM
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22. Okay
The cowardly state we may or may not live is is not related to the fact that we arm ourselves to the teeth. Many dozens of countries have vast swatches of their populaces living in fear.

They by and large are not allowed to arm themselves, that is why they are not 'armed to the teeth', despite living in as much if not more fear.

As to the 'far greater numbers' theory...

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  -U.S. Most Armed Country with 90 Guns per 100 People Hissyspit  Aug-28-07 12:51 PM   #0 
  - nothing to be proud of!!  rodeodance   Aug-28-07 12:57 PM   #1 
  - So we should be ashamed of our rights and freedoms? n/t  krispos42   Aug-28-07 01:00 PM   #4 
  - No.  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-28-07 01:28 PM   #13 
  - I'm listening n/t  krispos42   Aug-28-07 01:36 PM   #17 
     - Here's a thought:  Seabiscuit   Aug-28-07 01:44 PM   #21 
        - Okay  krispos42   Aug-28-07 01:55 PM   #22 
        - All right...  Seabiscuit   Aug-28-07 03:06 PM   #41 
        - Well, that's a given  krispos42   Aug-29-07 01:02 AM   #80 
           - I've also seen studies  Seabiscuit   Aug-29-07 07:44 AM   #90 
              - Common sense in visual form  krispos42   Aug-29-07 11:17 AM   #100 
                 - This might be a good time to say  Seabiscuit   Aug-29-07 12:36 PM   #105 
                    - Fair enough  krispos42   Aug-29-07 01:34 PM   #113 
        - Gun people will always find an excuse  zanne   Aug-29-07 09:16 AM   #93 
           - Anti-gun people are anti-Constitution  tesla78   Aug-29-07 10:03 PM   #117 
              - "Without the capability of enforcement.....  zanne   Aug-31-07 07:10 AM   #122 
        - Huh?  Socal31   Aug-29-07 01:11 AM   #81 
        - Oooooo,  Seabiscuit   Aug-29-07 12:43 PM   #106 
        - Oooooo,  Socal31   Aug-29-07 10:42 PM   #119 
        - Most domestic shootings are between family members  heliarc   Aug-29-07 01:27 PM   #109 
           - Not any easier  Socal31   Aug-29-07 10:41 PM   #118 
        - so what are we supposed to do?...  stressfulreality   Aug-29-07 01:33 PM   #112 
           - My answer:  Seabiscuit   Aug-29-07 11:26 PM   #121 
  - Yes. The country brings more fear and terror than any other nation.  Xenotime   Aug-28-07 02:17 PM   #27 
  - Ah. 'need'.  krispos42   Aug-28-07 02:29 PM   #29 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-28-07 02:35 PM   #32 
        - All of it  krispos42   Aug-28-07 02:38 PM   #34 
           - By the definition you're trying to imply  ProudDad   Aug-28-07 02:42 PM   #36 
           - Yup  krispos42   Aug-28-07 02:47 PM   #38 
           - Here's a take on it I've found useful;  Dr_eldritch   Aug-28-07 04:48 PM   #60 
              - Just as an aside on that  knight_of_the_star   Aug-29-07 11:16 PM   #120 
  - Illegal Guns and Easy Access is not a Right  fightthegoodfightnow   Aug-28-07 03:13 PM   #44 
     - ... my legal firearm and my level headed brain are ready to protect my family and your family n/t  stressfulreality   Aug-29-07 01:28 PM   #110 
     - Illegal speach and easy access to the internet is not a right!!!  Man_in_the_Moon   Aug-29-07 05:34 PM   #115 
  - Nothing to be ashamed of, either  kgfnally   Aug-28-07 02:31 PM   #30 
  - Same here - I think we have 4 or 5 that were inherited -  lynne   Aug-28-07 05:10 PM   #66 
  - umm.. our civilian population is standing by to FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE!!  stressfulreality   Aug-29-07 01:25 PM   #108 
  - Are you reading this, BushCo?  krispos42   Aug-28-07 12:59 PM   #2 
  - Hear that bushCo  ProudDad   Aug-28-07 02:36 PM   #33 
     - Ah, you should be in PNAC  krispos42   Aug-28-07 02:54 PM   #39 
     - Seems to work in Iraq....  SayWhatYo   Aug-28-07 03:32 PM   #51 
        - In Iraq  ProudDad   Aug-28-07 03:49 PM   #52 
           - No, they are going up against guns that we gave them  krispos42   Aug-29-07 01:45 AM   #88 
  - Thats unconsitutional  BOSSHOG   Aug-28-07 12:59 PM   #3 
  - Really?  Raskolnik   Aug-28-07 07:09 PM   #72 
     - We don't have defective copies  BOSSHOG   Aug-29-07 09:25 AM   #94 
  - "We're Number One". In gun ownership and deaths by guns!!  sinkingfeeling   Aug-28-07 01:01 PM   #5 
  - Ah, too much mainstream media for you  krispos42   Aug-28-07 01:09 PM   #9 
  - But aren't most of them illegally sold overseas? nt  valerief   Aug-28-07 01:05 PM   #6 
  - they`ll have to pry is out of my blood stained hands  madrchsod   Aug-28-07 01:05 PM   #7 
  - The USA has become the "Planet of the Apes", repleat with Herr Chimp for Pretzledent.  Seabiscuit   Aug-28-07 01:26 PM   #12 
  - I own zero guns  RedEarth   Aug-28-07 01:05 PM   #8 
  - You're totally screwing up the curve, you shameless peacenik  Orrex   Aug-28-07 01:32 PM   #14 
  - I own no weapons unless you count my cooking.  sfexpat2000   Aug-28-07 01:32 PM   #15 
  - I own eight, so far.  scrinmaster   Aug-28-07 02:05 PM   #25 
     - Why on earth do you need 8?  YOY   Aug-28-07 04:42 PM   #58 
        - Most people don't own guns for hunting; most gun owners aren't hunters.  benEzra   Aug-28-07 05:39 PM   #67 
           - The antiques sound cool! You've just found a fellow Rusophile!  YOY   Aug-29-07 11:34 AM   #101 
              - It's a Finn M39, built on an M1891 Izhevsk hex receiver dated 1905  benEzra   Aug-29-07 12:13 PM   #104 
  - The most heavily armed society on the planet, yet I feel less safe.  LanternWaste   Aug-28-07 01:19 PM   #10 
  - Exactly  fightthegoodfightnow   Aug-28-07 03:12 PM   #43 
     - I can't even get my mind around the whole gun mentality.  smirkymonkey   Aug-28-07 08:03 PM   #76 
        - Multiple guns  krispos42   Aug-29-07 01:13 AM   #82 
        - Just a thought  pipoman   Aug-29-07 10:26 AM   #97 
        - I agree. We commercialize, market and glorify violence in our culture  LanternWaste   Aug-29-07 10:28 AM   #98 
        - Thoughts on gun ownership...shooting is Zen, not Rambo.  benEzra   Aug-29-07 01:32 PM   #111 
  - A proud ten percenter here!  Seabiscuit   Aug-28-07 01:25 PM   #11 
  - Actually, you are in the majority  krispos42   Aug-28-07 01:38 PM   #19 
     - Wow -- how many guns does one person need?  jgraz   Aug-28-07 04:34 PM   #57 
        - LOL  krispos42   Aug-29-07 12:40 AM   #79 
           - You will pry my All-Clad Chef's pan out of my COLD DEAD HANDS  jgraz   Aug-29-07 10:24 AM   #96 
              - Oooo, shiny object!  krispos42   Aug-29-07 10:31 AM   #99 
  - The biggest shame is that 10 out of 100 are really dropping the ball  Orrex   Aug-28-07 01:33 PM   #16 
  - Probably a phone connected to a 911 operator n/t  krispos42   Aug-29-07 01:49 AM   #89 
  - Don't you all feel safer.  superconnected   Aug-28-07 01:37 PM   #18 
  - Boy I'd like to think your omission is unintentional  dmallind   Aug-28-07 01:58 PM   #23 
  - I actively used a gun in self-defense  NickB79   Aug-28-07 02:10 PM   #26 
  - Whoa! Slow down there, Sparky!  krispos42   Aug-28-07 02:18 PM   #28 
     - Reality  fightthegoodfightnow   Aug-28-07 03:16 PM   #45 
     - Another good point.  superconnected   Aug-28-07 03:21 PM   #48 
     - You seem to be ignoring the self-defense uses where  ManiacJoe   Aug-28-07 06:21 PM   #71 
     - I didn't say 350 attackers were stopped by armed citizens  krispos42   Aug-29-07 01:18 AM   #83 
     - Good points, good post.  superconnected   Aug-28-07 03:20 PM   #46 
        - Thanks!  krispos42   Aug-29-07 01:18 AM   #84 
  - Perhaps soon to be 270 million and two.  Doremus   Aug-28-07 01:40 PM   #20 
  - Same thing here just a few years earlier than you.  dmallind   Aug-28-07 02:04 PM   #24 
  - Thank you, dmallind.  Doremus   Aug-28-07 05:03 PM   #65 
  - No flames but ...  marions ghost   Aug-28-07 02:41 PM   #35 
     - No doubt you're right.  Doremus   Aug-28-07 05:00 PM   #64 
  - Gee, no wonder  ProudDad   Aug-28-07 02:33 PM   #31 
  - Care to retract your statement?  krispos42   Aug-28-07 02:43 PM   #37 
     - You Think Making the Top 10 is Something to be Proud Of?  fightthegoodfightnow   Aug-28-07 03:20 PM   #47 
     - I did not say I was proud. I said he was wrong. And he is. n/t  krispos42   Aug-29-07 01:19 AM   #85 
     - Um being up there with third world countries is not good.  superconnected   Aug-28-07 03:23 PM   #49 
     - No, it is not.  krispos42   Aug-29-07 01:23 AM   #86 
        - You are correct, but only regarding the little people.  superconnected   Aug-29-07 01:23 PM   #107 
     - WOW  ProudDad   Aug-28-07 03:27 PM   #50 
        - You summed the problem up nicely  krispos42   Aug-29-07 01:39 AM   #87 
  - OK, so it follows we should be the safest country in the world, right?  treestar   Aug-28-07 02:56 PM   #40 
  - GUNS DON'T PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE: EXHIBIT A  fightthegoodfightnow   Aug-28-07 03:09 PM   #42 
  - And less guns does not equal less crime as the gun grabbers claim either -nt  Man_in_the_Moon   Aug-28-07 04:53 PM   #63 
     - The Experience of Other Countries Not Withstanding  fightthegoodfightnow   Aug-29-07 11:43 AM   #102 
  - I don't have any guns, does this mean someone else has 180? nt  Javaman   Aug-28-07 03:53 PM   #53 
  - Hey, I know a few paranoid delusional thumb sucking bed wetters  Lorien   Aug-28-07 04:20 PM   #56 
  - Snort! -nt  Man_in_the_Moon   Aug-28-07 04:52 PM   #62 
  - Yes, that would be my Uncle Dennis.  Throd   Aug-28-07 08:54 PM   #78 
  - Link to actual report is here:  igil   Aug-28-07 04:03 PM   #54 
  - Disgusting.  Beausoir   Aug-28-07 04:14 PM   #55 
  - This is bad for what reason?  backscatter712   Aug-28-07 04:45 PM   #59 
  - I am proud to pull up the average of everyone else.  Man_in_the_Moon   Aug-28-07 04:51 PM   #61 
  - I recognized you !  macllyr   Aug-29-07 09:28 AM   #95 
     - Bah  Man_in_the_Moon   Aug-29-07 05:35 PM   #116 
  - About half of gun owners are Dems and indies...  benEzra   Aug-28-07 05:58 PM   #68 
  - Good. Keep the government fearing US, rather than US fearing gov.  Festivito   Aug-28-07 06:05 PM   #69 
  - 90 per 100? That's only .9 firearms per person on average.  ejbrush   Aug-28-07 06:10 PM   #70 
  - For all you DUers who don't have guns...  Squatch   Aug-28-07 07:13 PM   #73 
  - I'll cover eight more. (NT)  Zavulon   Aug-29-07 04:23 PM   #114 
  - Well, we are the freest nation in the world...  leaninglib   Aug-28-07 07:32 PM   #74 
  - depends on who you are. n/t  SlavesandBulldozers   Aug-28-07 08:22 PM   #77 
  - an almost perfected regime of MAD: Stanislaw Lem called it "Procrustics"  MisterP   Aug-28-07 07:50 PM   #75 
  - Damn!  D__S   Aug-29-07 08:34 AM   #91 
  - Gonzales resigns and there is one hint of hope, but DU descends into flame war over wedge issues.  The Stranger   Aug-29-07 08:52 AM   #92 
  - We're Number One  DFW   Aug-29-07 11:54 AM   #103 
 

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