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  -Police accused of using provocateurs at summit GliderGuider  Aug-21-07 10:08 PM   #0 
  - If anyone has a link to the pictures of the boots I'd love to see it! n/t  Poll_Blind   Aug-21-07 10:13 PM   #1 
  - Pic and link posted below  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 08:00 AM   #35 
  - Thanks  tnlurker   Aug-22-07 11:51 AM   #72 
  - Thank you! n/t  Poll_Blind   Aug-22-07 12:00 PM   #76 
  - ## Quebec police admit they went undercover at Montebello protest ##  mogster   Aug-24-07 02:45 AM   #217 
  - Police provocateurs were present at anti-globalization demonstrations in Seattle and Genoa  IndianaGreen   Aug-21-07 10:14 PM   #2 
  - I've often suspected the "Eugene anarchists" that busted up the downtown storefronts were cops  Barrett808   Aug-22-07 10:02 AM   #46 
     - They were not cops.  Xithras   Aug-22-07 12:53 PM   #98 
        - Well, I advocate genocide against Pink Boys and Normals...  Barrett808   Aug-22-07 01:57 PM   #131 
        - Their leaders were the cops  Truth2Tell   Aug-22-07 07:52 PM   #178 
           - I do not trust the cops here in Eugene and I am  anitar1   Aug-23-07 10:56 PM   #215 
  - Undercover police officers are one thing. Provocateurs are just wrong.  Kagemusha   Aug-21-07 10:24 PM   #3 
  - This shit's been going on since at least the '60s, probably longer.  Dr.Phool   Aug-21-07 11:57 PM   #17 
  - Only 50% of the protestors at the Chicago Convention were "plants"  L. Coyote   Aug-22-07 12:20 AM   #21 
  - No question that provocateurs were present at Kent State  yardwork   Aug-22-07 09:37 AM   #40 
  - Undercover cops don't belong at protests. The message...  Eric J in MN   Aug-22-07 12:18 AM   #19 
  - I'm not so sure there should be zero undercovers but, provocateurs are wrong.  Kagemusha   Aug-22-07 12:25 AM   #23 
  - Agents provocateur have led the most violent factions of many movements  leveymg   Aug-22-07 04:29 PM   #157 
     - The Black Hand  otherlander   Aug-22-07 10:02 PM   #186 
  - It's no surprise...........  PDJane   Aug-21-07 10:35 PM   #4 
  - So yellow triangle = police agent???  GregW   Aug-21-07 10:36 PM   #5 
  - That's a great find, GregW, and one that we won't find the MSM reporting  IndianaGreen   Aug-21-07 11:20 PM   #9 
  - Police + disruptors + 4 pairs of identical footwear = "COINCIDENCE" beyond the bounds of probability  dicksteele   Aug-21-07 11:36 PM   #12 
  - Indeed, photos showing three provocateurs and police wearing same boots.  mcg   Aug-22-07 11:17 AM   #60 
     - Not a triangle... It's a logo.  christymc   Aug-22-07 01:24 PM   #118 
        - I have a pair of hiking boots that bear that same logo n/t  guruoo   Aug-22-07 01:51 PM   #129 
        - Just what I was thinking.  drm604   Aug-22-07 03:31 PM   #151 
           - So you're saying that the probability of that combination of that sole and those uppers  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 03:46 PM   #153 
           - That's pretty much what I'm saying.  drm604   Aug-22-07 03:59 PM   #154 
           - all that decoration and tape on his footwear  arikara   Aug-22-07 06:30 PM   #169 
           - Shin Guards  djp2   Aug-22-07 10:26 PM   #190 
              - Yes and yes, police in riot gear wear shin guards.  mcg   Aug-22-07 11:04 PM   #192 
  - No, Yellow triangle+masks+provocation = LIKELY police agent.  Dr_eldritch   Aug-21-07 11:46 PM   #15 
  - The news story specifically says the triangles were on the soles of the boots  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 05:55 AM   #32 
  - Yeah, that makes total sense as a way to keep undercovers out of jail.  Kagemusha   Aug-22-07 07:14 AM   #33 
  - Actually, from the still photo it looks like they just forgot to change their boots.  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 08:29 AM   #38 
  - Those don't look like triangles.  deadmessengers   Aug-22-07 11:40 AM   #66 
     - Looks that way to me, too, which doesn't change the fact that they  NCevilDUer   Aug-22-07 11:49 AM   #71 
     - Nope, doesn't change it at all  deadmessengers   Aug-22-07 12:54 PM   #99 
     - The reference to "triangles" came from a reporter's story  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 11:59 AM   #75 
     - They are Vibram yellow plug hexagons  mcg   Aug-22-07 01:02 PM   #107 
        - I meant octagons. nt  mcg   Aug-22-07 08:48 PM   #183 
  - It's a standard marking, apparently signifying a level of quality  MADem   Aug-22-07 11:32 AM   #63 
  - That's not the marking that was seen  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 11:39 AM   #65 
     - Are Vibram boots "police boots?" According to this site, they make all sorts of boots  MADem   Aug-22-07 12:03 PM   #77 
        - And with all those boots to choose from  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 12:09 PM   #82 
        - They ARE in paramilitary outfits.  ieoeja   Aug-22-07 12:49 PM   #95 
        - Sorry, I don't buy it.  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 12:56 PM   #100 
        - I see that there's to be a press conference, saying that these guys were cops,  MADem   Aug-22-07 01:17 PM   #114 
        - The shoes themselves do look identical  guruoo   Aug-22-07 02:07 PM   #133 
           - I agree. I think the three are wearing police dept standard issue  kestrel91316   Aug-22-07 02:51 PM   #142 
        - You can't argue with conspiracy theorists  Malidictus Maximus   Aug-22-07 02:35 PM   #138 
        - Do your two pairs of boots with that logo look identical?  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 02:48 PM   #141 
        - Nice Summary....Most times provocateurs succeed...Sometimes they're busted...  Junkdrawer   Aug-22-07 03:30 PM   #149 
        - Their body language...  SkyIsGrey   Aug-22-07 07:19 PM   #175 
        - Good summation.  Malidictus Maximus   Aug-23-07 07:39 AM   #198 
        - The difference between theory and evidence  leveymg   Aug-22-07 04:52 PM   #158 
        - Denver cops intelligence unit is now well known, and since Dem's '08 convention is in Denver...  EVDebs   Aug-22-07 06:59 PM   #172 
           - Notice the cops don't have their kness and full body  Hotler   Aug-22-07 08:05 PM   #180 
        - Post #93. It's no longer a 'conspiracy'  EVDebs   Aug-22-07 08:31 PM   #181 
        - These particular soles are on police boots.  mcg   Aug-22-07 10:17 PM   #188 
  - It's more than just boots....NO RECORD OF THEIR ARREST....  Junkdrawer   Aug-22-07 12:35 PM   #86 
  - It would be really funny if someone started a "habeus corpus" fuss over them  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 12:39 PM   #88 
  - Oh, I think the protest organizers will make a stink about this...  Junkdrawer   Aug-22-07 12:40 PM   #90 
  - Maybe they are now "terrorists" and are currently in Gitmo  Cronus Protagonist   Aug-22-07 06:35 PM   #170 
  - Canada's version of ACLU should sue on 'protester's' behalf and demand more info from their clients  EVDebs   Aug-22-07 01:34 PM   #123 
  - Good point.  leveymg   Aug-22-07 04:55 PM   #159 
  - you were wrong after all... just saying. n/t  themartyred   Aug-23-07 08:14 PM   #214 
  - Here's the link to the Youtube video  JohnyCanuck   Aug-21-07 10:42 PM   #6 
  - Great video  McCamy Taylor   Aug-21-07 11:36 PM   #13 
  - Obviously fakes, their outfits, body language, physique,  mcg   Aug-22-07 11:04 AM   #56 
  - I will remain cynical. But I agree with most of what you say.  ieoeja   Aug-22-07 01:04 PM   #109 
  - ieoeja: what would "definitively proven" be in a case like this?  Bryan Sacks   Aug-23-07 03:31 PM   #209 
  - The bandanas were bought down at the Anarchist's Surplus Store  leveymg   Aug-22-07 05:12 PM   #161 
     - love that top graphic. where's it from n/t?  Bryan Sacks   Aug-23-07 03:33 PM   #210 
  - Thanks for that, great points! n/t  Faux pas   Aug-23-07 03:26 PM   #208 
  - Here's another report of the incident.  JohnyCanuck   Aug-21-07 10:49 PM   #7 
  - It sure does look like one of the guys in the video  suffragette   Aug-22-07 12:23 AM   #22 
  - Oh my God! You mean black bloc kids are agent provocateurs???  lvx35   Aug-21-07 11:07 PM   #8 
  - Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever  dicksteele   Aug-21-07 11:25 PM   #10 
  - Same as it ever was  kster   Aug-21-07 11:40 PM   #14 
     - All in your post = same as it ever was. Machiavelli's "The Prince" + kevlar and submachineguns.  dicksteele   Aug-21-07 11:47 PM   #16 
  - and we should be surprised?  grasswire   Aug-21-07 11:30 PM   #11 
  - Well done. K & R nt  glitch   Aug-22-07 12:13 AM   #18 
  - OK, so I'm new to the scene.  backscatter712   Aug-22-07 12:19 AM   #20 
  - Certainly saw provocateurs at work in Portland  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-22-07 12:48 AM   #24 
  - that's how these guys seemed  themartyred   Aug-22-07 03:34 AM   #28 
     - Those cops need to go to acting school, LOL!!  0007   Aug-22-07 11:03 AM   #55 
  - Anybody under the age of 30 ought to google COINTELPRO  eridani   Aug-22-07 01:22 AM   #25 
  - Yeah, and COINTELPRO discussions are full of the same bad acting and lies.  hunter   Aug-22-07 12:23 PM   #84 
  - You'd wonder how far down this rabbit hole go  mogster   Aug-22-07 02:41 AM   #26 
  - I can take you back to1968 Haight-Ashbury.... I was on a  Faux pas   Aug-22-07 03:19 AM   #27 
  - Sounds like the "Brooks Brothers riot" in Florida, election 2000, too  yardwork   Aug-22-07 09:42 AM   #42 
  - I guess we've been living under the illusion of freedom for a long  Faux pas   Aug-22-07 11:14 AM   #59 
  - Delay's aides  Blutodog   Aug-22-07 01:15 PM   #113 
  - ANd I think...........  rucognizant   Aug-22-07 12:44 PM   #92 
     - I sure wouldn't be surprised! n/t  Faux pas   Aug-23-07 02:24 AM   #194 
  - Agents of Repression  formercia   Aug-22-07 04:15 AM   #29 
  - Well dip me in flour and bake me for thirty minutes!  Forkboy   Aug-22-07 05:30 AM   #30 
  - If they hadn't been cops  JTFrog   Aug-22-07 05:45 AM   #31 
  - Busted! Proof positive - pictures of the boots  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 07:17 AM   #34 
  - Very interesting  Canuckistanian   Aug-22-07 09:35 AM   #39 
  - You are right, it is the same tread pattern in the cops and "protesters'" boots  IndianaGreen   Aug-23-07 03:26 AM   #195 
     - Yeah, they gotta watch those Quakers. They're an insidious group, yes they are.  Buns_of_Fire   Aug-23-07 04:18 AM   #197 
     - Those drive by stern-looks are a killer.  beevul   Aug-23-07 05:01 PM   #211 
     - Never heard this until today! How truly dirty. So glad to find it out. n/t  Judi Lynn   Aug-23-07 12:02 PM   #201 
  - AND HE'S WEARING KNEE PADS!  progressoid   Aug-22-07 09:46 AM   #43 
  - Yup, and padding around the ankles. nt  mcg   Aug-22-07 11:06 AM   #57 
  - what no broken knees?  mikelgb   Aug-22-07 10:56 AM   #51 
  - Click through the link above to the original photos for an eye-opeing view.  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 11:03 AM   #54 
  - another suspicious photo  mcg   Aug-22-07 11:38 AM   #64 
  - a bigger picture shows he's wearing Mylec gloves  mcg   Aug-22-07 11:51 AM   #73 
  - Guy's got F.U.C.K. written on his hand. LOL! eom  truth2power   Aug-22-07 11:52 AM   #74 
  - "the police seem blissfully unconcerned"  mcg   Aug-22-07 12:37 PM   #87 
  - Middle "anarchist" looks like he's fond of donuts.  bleever   Aug-22-07 12:57 PM   #103 
  - and the rock looks rather benign, maybe it's a sponge,  mcg   Aug-22-07 01:08 PM   #110 
  - See post #48  Tempest   Aug-23-07 10:23 AM   #199 
  - Excuse me...what is that thingie duct-taped to the guy's leg?..  truth2power   Aug-22-07 11:43 AM   #69 
  - That doesn't actually prove anything except that the soles of the boots are made  cui bono   Aug-22-07 03:42 PM   #152 
  - I have a pair of boots with that patch.  Chemical Bill   Aug-22-07 04:59 PM   #160 
  - So much for the "To Protect and Serve" bullshit. nt  bemildred   Aug-22-07 08:03 AM   #36 
  - It's more like "To Incite and Discredit."  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 08:22 AM   #37 
  - Infiltration is SOP for GOP since the 60s. Not only within protests, but within the opposing party.  cyberpj   Aug-22-07 09:39 AM   #41 
  - Here's a cropped and sharpened section of the still photo.  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 09:49 AM   #44 
  - They're the exact same boot  Tempest   Aug-22-07 09:58 AM   #45 
  - Looks like he spray-pained them? To, like, fool us?  phantom power   Aug-22-07 10:02 AM   #47 
  - Vibram logo  guruoo   Aug-22-07 11:21 AM   #61 
  - OK, now I'm confused. The story says it's the triangle logo, not that logo  MADem   Aug-22-07 11:41 AM   #68 
     - you're not confused, you're unwilling to admit what's plain  Bryan Sacks   Aug-22-07 12:04 PM   #78 
     - Take that attitude and stifle it, there, pal.  MADem   Aug-22-07 01:23 PM   #116 
        - I will allow that perhaps you were confused earlier in this thread . . .  Bryan Sacks   Aug-22-07 01:36 PM   #125 
           - Well, I was just seeking information, is all, and I am never a jumper to conclusions.  MADem   Aug-22-07 02:23 PM   #135 
              - Research the MAI  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 02:29 PM   #136 
                 - Well, if you're saying that the failure of the MAI had to do with the force of protests,  MADem   Aug-22-07 02:52 PM   #144 
                    - My take on it is that they want to short-circuit the protests before they get off the ground.  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 02:58 PM   #145 
                       - Apparently the latest theory is that the Quebec Police wanted to justify to the national government  MADem   Aug-23-07 01:53 PM   #205 
     - I'd say they were the #134AR Technical Lug design...  Junkdrawer   Aug-22-07 05:58 PM   #164 
        - Yes, here's more photos of that sole.  mcg   Aug-22-07 09:48 PM   #185 
  - Better picture  anthill   Aug-22-07 12:06 PM   #81 
     - I was isolating that too with the high-res image available at  Texas Explorer   Aug-22-07 01:20 PM   #115 
     - That's very good evidence of foul play  mogster   Aug-22-07 04:06 PM   #155 
     - They all appear to have have the same Vibram sole logo, but can you tell if  guruoo   Aug-22-07 01:49 PM   #128 
     - Look at my images above. The boots all have the same  Texas Explorer   Aug-22-07 01:52 PM   #130 
     - Positive id on the soles, compare with another good version of that picture  mcg   Aug-22-07 10:13 PM   #187 
  - Watch the video, they're obviously cops  Tempest   Aug-22-07 10:04 AM   #48 
  - I think I know *one* anarchist who's over the age of 30.  otherlander   Aug-22-07 10:24 PM   #189 
  - Yes indeed... who'd ever suspect that they're still using the same tired tactics...  redqueen   Aug-22-07 10:42 AM   #49 
  - NO RECORD OF THEIR ARREST....BUT 4 OTHERS WERE ARRESTED...  Junkdrawer   Aug-22-07 10:46 AM   #50 
  - OMG, they've been Extraoridinarily Renditioned! someone sue for their rights!  NuttyFluffers   Aug-22-07 08:44 PM   #182 
     - Yes, absolutely!  drm604   Aug-22-07 09:29 PM   #184 
  - Assuming the take on this event is correct, what is the purpose of such false flag operations?  Ian_rd   Aug-22-07 10:56 AM   #52 
  - To discredit the protestors, and by extension their cause.  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 11:00 AM   #53 
  - What is the police force's incentive to do this?  Ian_rd   Aug-22-07 11:09 AM   #58 
     - And BushCo behind this? Without anyone in Canada, where it occurred, saying, WTF?  MADem   Aug-22-07 11:45 AM   #70 
     - Bush, the President of Mexico Mr. Calderon and  L.A.dweller   Aug-22-07 01:34 PM   #122 
        - Duh. Please. I understand FULL WELL who was at Montebello, and why.  MADem   Aug-22-07 02:34 PM   #137 
           - No. This is local, amateur hour TAC squad stuff.  leveymg   Aug-22-07 06:23 PM   #166 
              - It's coming out now that the cops spent a FORTUNE on security.  MADem   Aug-22-07 06:29 PM   #168 
     - Except that, presumably, they will win favor with people who have power . . . secret power --  defendandprotect   Aug-22-07 12:39 PM   #89 
     - I perfectly understand, and long wondered the same thing  Bryan Sacks   Aug-22-07 01:24 PM   #117 
     - I don't buy it. There has to be a more real-world reason.  Ian_rd   Aug-22-07 02:01 PM   #132 
        - I don't see it that way  Bryan Sacks   Aug-22-07 03:05 PM   #146 
        - Here's your practical goal - suppression of dissent  Cronus Protagonist   Aug-22-07 06:49 PM   #171 
     - The cops turned to force. tear gas and rubber bullets.  tekisui   Aug-22-07 02:08 PM   #134 
  - Gathering Contacts, Intel  Crisco   Aug-23-07 02:42 PM   #207 
  - Why do these people hate democracy?  followthemoney   Aug-22-07 11:32 AM   #62 
  - EarthFirst, Judi Bari and the AZ provacateurs. This is standard operating procedure FBI/DOJ  EVDebs   Aug-22-07 11:41 AM   #67 
  - This happened in CANADA. nt  MADem   Aug-22-07 12:05 PM   #79 
     - Remember who our Prime Minister is, please.  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 12:17 PM   #83 
     - Do Canadians support the results of their elections-- ????  defendandprotect   Aug-22-07 12:41 PM   #91 
     - I'm not sure what that means.  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 12:49 PM   #94 
        - Let's try my question again ---  defendandprotect   Aug-22-07 07:33 PM   #177 
     - That's my point---he's an ASSHOLE. No offense, but he is.  MADem   Aug-22-07 12:59 PM   #105 
        - Of course he is. No offense taken.  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 01:04 PM   #108 
           - Which masters? If anything, they swagger like they own the road.  MADem   Aug-22-07 01:10 PM   #111 
              - You may look on that union however you wish  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 01:30 PM   #120 
              - I think that that is why the government sends "rock throwing" provocateurs  yardwork   Aug-22-07 04:29 PM   #156 
                 - To undermine the movement's credibility...  Ravachol   Aug-22-07 05:29 PM   #162 
                 - See my post just below--that's what it's looking like, your assertion. NT  MADem   Aug-22-07 06:24 PM   #167 
                 - A more recent report gave TWO reasons for the action by these guys  MADem   Aug-22-07 06:22 PM   #165 
     - Read Body of Secrets and Puzzle Palace by James Bamford  EVDebs   Aug-22-07 12:52 PM   #97 
        - The suggestion is that the Canadians are subordinate to our wishes, and I don't buy that  MADem   Aug-22-07 12:56 PM   #101 
           - All I can say is read more on the subject. No offense meant.  EVDebs   Aug-22-07 12:58 PM   #104 
           - Not subordinate  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 01:00 PM   #106 
  - The 1st role of the police is to protect the RICH. I dont respect anyone who joins the police  conspirator   Aug-22-07 12:06 PM   #80 
  - What kind of procedure does the Canadian government have in place to investigate this?  GeniusLib   Aug-22-07 12:31 PM   #85 
  - News advisory - News conference on "arrest" of phony demonstrators  mcg   Aug-22-07 12:45 PM   #93 
  - Yeeee Haaaaw!  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 12:51 PM   #96 
  - So this was a Nixon-Chicago thing? nt  MADem   Aug-22-07 01:14 PM   #112 
     - More like Clinton-Seattle thing  EVDebs   Aug-22-07 01:25 PM   #119 
        - Well, that didn't stick too well. The Chicago thing had more glue in it.  MADem   Aug-22-07 01:31 PM   #121 
           - Looks like * is trying the same tactic a la Rove don't you think ? 'Terra, Terra' eom  EVDebs   Aug-22-07 01:36 PM   #124 
  - It's so obvious  L.A.dweller   Aug-22-07 12:56 PM   #102 
  - Does anyone have a link to the youtube video?  IronLionZion   Aug-22-07 01:38 PM   #126 
  - Here ya go...  Texas Explorer   Aug-22-07 01:39 PM   #127 
  - I just watched the video of the union leader trying to dispel the situation  Caoimhe   Aug-22-07 02:39 PM   #139 
  - Find out who they are, and place there home addresses on the internet  sasquatch   Aug-22-07 02:39 PM   #140 
  - No way, bud.  GliderGuider   Aug-22-07 03:11 PM   #147 
     - Well you have better than we have it, our cops our tried by corrupt politicians  sasquatch   Aug-22-07 07:54 PM   #179 
  - Agent Provocateurs on YOUTUBE - from Indonesia  MCPetruk   Aug-22-07 02:52 PM   #143 
  - Thanks for posting this video. Very helpful.  Judi Lynn   Aug-23-07 03:27 AM   #196 
  - Any blood traces or damages on the people mentioned?  mogster   Aug-22-07 03:28 PM   #148 
  - Here's the Youtube link:  rateyes   Aug-22-07 03:31 PM   #150 
  - You would not believe what I am finding in researching the history of such  BornagainDUer   Aug-22-07 05:41 PM   #163 
  - Infiltrating the Mollie Maguires. Hey, it's almost Labor Day, see Matewan  EVDebs   Aug-22-07 07:03 PM   #173 
     - Debs was jailed in WWI for "treason"/protesting the war.  BornagainDUer   Aug-23-07 12:59 PM   #202 
        - Esp. the tie-in to the Ludlow Massacre. Loved Matewan, should be required DU viewing  EVDebs   Aug-23-07 01:36 PM   #204 
  - Of Course They Are Police Officers!  scarab person   Aug-22-07 07:18 PM   #174 
  - Cookies...  Omaha Steve   Aug-22-07 07:24 PM   #176 
  - Scared the heck outta me. Computer 'cookies' NSA etc. eom  EVDebs   Aug-22-07 10:34 PM   #191 
  - Riots usually in the dark, no good photo ability  djp2   Aug-23-07 12:03 AM   #193 
  - kick  BrokenBeyondRepair   Aug-23-07 11:57 AM   #200 
  - According to CBC news, there will be no disclosure on the"agents"...  kitty1   Aug-23-07 01:05 PM   #203 
  - Why are people going so far to claim this isn't significant circumstantial evidence?  jpgray   Aug-23-07 02:22 PM   #206 
  - Catch 22 for the cops  Greyskye   Aug-23-07 06:53 PM   #212 
  - Good point. nt  bemildred   Aug-23-07 07:27 PM   #213 
  - They are also carrying gas masks  frankf   Aug-24-07 01:08 AM   #216 
  - Many "real" anarchists carry gas masks  GliderGuider   Aug-24-07 04:54 AM   #218 
  - Update: Police admit truth and make 2 new lies. Call them youself  robertmadsen   Aug-24-07 04:14 PM   #219 
  - Police admit agents posed as protesters; One carries large rock to protest.  redqueen   Aug-27-07 03:00 PM   #220 
 

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