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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 07:34 PM
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60. Defending the NRA and it's obviously racist leadership once again?
Paul Blackman
Head NRA Researcher

On crime victims:
" In fact, studies of homicide victims -- especially the increasing number of
younger ones -- suggest they are frequently criminals themselves and/or drug addicts or users. It is quite possible that their deaths, in terms of
economic consequences to society, are net gains."
"The Federal Factoid Factory on Firearms and Violence: A Review of CDC
Research and Policies."

On Inner-City Redevelopment:
" he NRA is composed primarily of non-big-city middle-class white males... They cannot be counted on any more than any other non-big-city middle-class whites to actively lobby to rebuild the inner cities. Further, even if the NRA attempted fully to address the problems of the inner city, it would no more be welcomed unhesitatingly and un suspiciously than would any other proposed interference by people who do not look as if they belong in the inner city?."

Charlton Heston
Former NRA President

"Mainstream America is counting on you to draw your sword and fight for them. These people have precious little time and resources to battle misguided Cinderella attitudes, the fringe propaganda of the homosexual coalition, the feminists who preach that it is a divine duty for women to hate men, blacks who raise a militant fist with one hand while they seek preference with the other ?"

"I remember when European Jews feared to admit their faith. The Nazis forced them to wear yellow stars as identity badges. It worked. So what color star will they pin on gun owners chests? How will the self-styled elite tag us? There may not be a Gestapo officer on every street corner, but the influence on our culture is just as pervasive."

"On the other hand, I find my blood pressure rising when Clinton's cultural shock troops participate in gay-rights fundraisers but boycott gun-rights fundraisers and then claim it's time to place homosexual men in tents with Boy Scouts, and suggest that sperm donor babies born into lesbian relationships are somehow better served and more loved." --Speech to Free Congress Foundation


" I was astounded to read these courageous remarks by Charlton Heston. I am thankful to hear a man with such high esteem say essentially the same things for which I have been reviled by the liberal media. His words should be reproduced and put into the hands of every American."
--DAVID DUKE's response to Heston's speech

Ted Nugent
NRA Board of Directors

"Apartheid isn't that cut and dry. All men are not created equal. The
preponderance of South Africa is a different breed of man. I mean that with
no disrespect. I say that with great respect. I love them because I'm one of
them. They are still people of the earth, but they are different. They still
put bones in their noses, they still walk around naked, they wipe their
butts with their hands ? These are different people. You give 'em
toothpaste, they fucking eat it ... I hope they don't become civilized.
They're way ahead of the game."
--Detroit Free Press Magazine

On Racism:
"I'm a fun guy, not a sexist or a racist?. I use the word ni##er a lot
because I hang around with a lot of ni##ers ?."
--Detroit Free Press Magazine

Jeff Cooper
NRA Board of Directors

On Inner-City Violence:
"…the consensus is that no more than five to ten people in a hundred who die by gunfire in Los Angeles are any loss to society. These people fight small wars amongst themselves. It would seem a valid social service to keep them well-supplied with ammunition."
Cooper's Corner, Guns and Ammo

On the value of diversity:
"The goal of good government is the optimum balance of liberty and order. Social diversity does not pull in that direction. Liberty is what we seek over the centuries, but if we grant it to too diverse a population, order disappears. Regarding the United States… it would seem that we ought to choose assimilation over diversity. It seems to me that diversity, rather than being a goal to be sought, should be an obstacle to be circumvented." Jeff Cooper's Commentaries (self-published newsletter)

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  -Jackson faces jury trial after arrest over gun shop demonstration billbuckhead  Aug-07-07 07:32 PM   #0 
  - Jackson's a real hero; Obama just plays one on TV.  Vidar   Aug-07-07 07:43 PM   #1 
  - Feh. Jackson is a bit of a showboat, imo. It is his major weakness.  yellowcanine   Aug-07-07 08:45 PM   #2 
  - He is certainly a hero in my opinion and his strength  goclark   Aug-07-07 11:27 PM   #4 
  - The media has tried to portray him that way, but I completely disagree.  jobycom   Aug-08-07 12:52 AM   #6 
  - So were those uppity ex-slaves  ProudDad   Aug-11-07 01:35 PM   #109 
  - MLK was a show boat too...  mikelgb   Aug-08-07 10:47 AM   #9 
  - Anyone who seeks to lead the public successfully has to be a "showboat".  Vidar   Aug-09-07 01:42 AM   #13 
  - His public posturing in favor of keeping Terry Schiavo hooked up was pure publicity whoring.  Seabiscuit   Aug-10-07 07:21 PM   #59 
  - I have to disagree with that  knight_of_the_star   Aug-07-07 11:55 PM   #5 
     - Like congratulating Barry Bonds.  D__S   Aug-10-07 02:10 PM   #37 
  - They'll just use knives  saigon68   Aug-07-07 08:50 PM   #3 
  - Much much harder to use knives. That's why bad guys want guns  billbuckhead   Aug-08-07 06:57 AM   #7 
     - That's why bad guys want guns.  Speaker   Aug-08-07 10:30 AM   #8 
     - They don' get guns very much in Japan , Ireland, the Uk, Sweden, etc  billbuckhead   Aug-08-07 12:26 PM   #10 
        - Yet Japan has a high suicide rate.  beevul   Aug-09-07 12:21 AM   #12 
        - When "legitimate" gun owners quit killing other Americans then I will  billbuckhead   Aug-09-07 09:41 PM   #15 
        - It would be refreshing...  beevul   Aug-10-07 01:39 AM   #17 
           - It's a fact. Most murders are between people who know each other  billbuckhead   Aug-10-07 07:14 PM   #58 
              - The VPC? You have got to be kidding.  beevul   Aug-10-07 08:17 PM   #64 
              - The highest murder rate of all industrial nations by multiples! Year after year  billbuckhead   Aug-10-07 11:11 PM   #67 
                 - Yet you focus on the tools rather than the causes, of those murders. N/T  beevul   Aug-11-07 01:54 AM   #84 
                    - It's much harder to kill without guns, that's why bad guys want guns  billbuckhead   Aug-11-07 01:58 AM   #86 
                       - You don't care about the murder rates, you just hate guns.  beevul   Aug-11-07 02:06 AM   #89 
                          - Guns make killing easy so even Scotland has lower murder rate than USA  billbuckhead   Aug-11-07 02:13 AM   #91 
                             - And yet you regularly go after rifles seldom used in murder.  beevul   Aug-11-07 02:22 AM   #92 
                                - Let's see, JFK and MLK can come back to life since rifles didn't kill them  billbuckhead   Aug-11-07 11:28 AM   #102 
                                   - Which of those was shot with a so called "assault weapon"?  beevul   Aug-11-07 12:59 PM   #107 
                                      - We don't know what kind of gun killed JFK. Some say an AR-15  billbuckhead   Aug-11-07 11:43 PM   #113 
                                         - WTF?!?  Realityhack   Aug-13-07 08:46 PM   #117 
              - 1963 to 1973 Jesus H. Christ  pipoman   Aug-11-07 02:23 AM   #93 
        - "Good guys' " guns get stolen by bad guys...duh!  jaybeat   Aug-10-07 10:53 AM   #19 
        - So go after the "good guys" guns before the theives, right?  beevul   Aug-10-07 12:15 PM   #21 
           - Taking away a gun that could kill me is self-defense  jaybeat   Aug-10-07 01:37 PM   #29 
              - False dichotomy...no gun can kill you on its own.  beevul   Aug-10-07 03:36 PM   #53 
              - The NRA isn't on my side, and neither are you. Don't let the DU door hit you on the way out.  jaybeat   Aug-10-07 08:46 PM   #65 
              - Excuse me?  beevul   Aug-10-07 10:21 PM   #66 
                 - You want facts? Ha! I'll keep this short.  jaybeat   Aug-10-07 11:13 PM   #68 
                    - This is going to be fun.  beevul   Aug-11-07 12:40 AM   #71 
                       - Hell, most of the Republicans as well as the rest of the civilized world are for strong gun regs  billbuckhead   Aug-11-07 01:20 AM   #76 
                          - Lieing to slam a Democrat...I am unsurprised.  beevul   Aug-11-07 01:44 AM   #81 
                             - Many Republicans are for stronger gun regulation as well as most independents  billbuckhead   Aug-11-07 01:53 AM   #83 
                                - And Im sure you'd take them over Richardson, purist that you are.N/T  beevul   Aug-11-07 01:57 AM   #85 
                                   - Richardson is "target shooting"  billbuckhead   Aug-11-07 02:02 AM   #87 
              - Like peanuts don't get eaten if they're not easily accessable  billbuckhead   Aug-10-07 11:14 PM   #69 
                 - Funny logic there  Realityhack   Aug-13-07 09:36 PM   #120 
              - You just don't get it, do you?  derby378   Aug-11-07 09:14 AM   #96 
        - Why switch from murder to suicide? Trying to change the subject???????  billbuckhead   Aug-11-07 01:24 AM   #77 
           - Typical from someone that pads their stats with both.  beevul   Aug-12-07 09:22 PM   #116 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-09-07 02:30 PM   #14 
           - Did you know Jesse Jackson and the Congressional Black Caucus is on the NRA enemies list?  billbuckhead   Aug-09-07 09:46 PM   #16 
              - My how times have changed...  D__S   Aug-10-07 10:55 AM   #20 
              - Baloney  slackmaster   Aug-10-07 02:29 PM   #45 
                 - Well, they're black.  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-10-07 02:30 PM   #47 
                    - I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on that  slackmaster   Aug-10-07 02:39 PM   #48 
                    - Yes, yes.  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-10-07 02:41 PM   #49 
                    - Do you have anything to back that up?  slackmaster   Aug-10-07 02:55 PM   #50 
                       - ...  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-10-07 03:13 PM   #52 
                          - mmmmmmmmmmkay  slackmaster   Aug-10-07 05:58 PM   #57 
                    - Defending the NRA and it's obviously racist leadership once again?  billbuckhead   Aug-10-07 07:34 PM   #60 
                       - No answer to that. Facts are stubborn things  billbuckhead   Aug-11-07 01:33 AM   #79 
                    - Yeah...thats it...  beevul   Aug-10-07 08:00 PM   #63 
                       - LOL  FredScuttle   Aug-12-07 11:47 AM   #114 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-12-07 08:31 PM   #115 
     - Any MOFO who chases me  saigon68   Aug-08-07 07:19 PM   #11 
  - Jackson needs to put his money where his mouth is...  D__S   Aug-10-07 10:40 AM   #18 
  - Amen to that  slackmaster   Aug-10-07 12:21 PM   #22 
  - Don't forget to mark your calander...  D__S   Aug-10-07 01:27 PM   #26 
     - August 28 is the anniversary of my buying Sturm, Ruger & Co. stock at $9.05  slackmaster   Aug-10-07 01:33 PM   #27 
        - Buying ammo is always a good investment.  D__S   Aug-10-07 01:47 PM   #30 
        - Therefore, you are an owner of a firearm manufacturer doing advocacy/PR on the internet  TheBorealAvenger   Aug-10-07 01:50 PM   #31 
           - What'choo talking about, Willis?  D__S   Aug-10-07 02:02 PM   #32 
           - You still own Sturm, Ruger & Co. stock, don't you?  TheBorealAvenger   Aug-10-07 02:05 PM   #34 
              - No, that was me owning the stock  slackmaster   Aug-10-07 02:07 PM   #35 
              - Ha, I missed that. Cannot figure out why D_S was answering my post  TheBorealAvenger   Aug-10-07 02:13 PM   #38 
                 - Smart move on GE's part, good on them  slackmaster   Aug-10-07 02:26 PM   #44 
              - My bad...  D__S   Aug-10-07 02:13 PM   #39 
           - No, that is not a true statement  slackmaster   Aug-10-07 02:05 PM   #33 
           - Busting on Jesse or advocating for less restrictions  TheBorealAvenger   Aug-10-07 02:09 PM   #36 
           - All I did was agree with D__S that JJ should be going after violent criminals and gangs  slackmaster   Aug-10-07 02:21 PM   #42 
           - If RGR sells more product, you do better  TheBorealAvenger   Aug-10-07 02:17 PM   #40 
              - RGR is probably the most socially responsible of all gun manufacturers  slackmaster   Aug-10-07 02:20 PM   #41 
           - It's all a big Amwaylike scam to con insecure men out of their money  billbuckhead   Aug-10-07 07:54 PM   #62 
              - I've been accused of some pretty bizarre things in my life  slackmaster   Aug-13-07 10:04 PM   #121 
  - You're saying Jackson supports gang bangers?  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-10-07 12:23 PM   #23 
  - Where did I suggest anything like that?  D__S   Aug-10-07 01:19 PM   #25 
     - Post #18.  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-10-07 02:30 PM   #46 
        - I don't see how you equate my comment that...  D__S   Aug-10-07 07:35 PM   #61 
  - Jackson needs to realize that guns are here to stay in America  GeniusLib   Aug-10-07 12:29 PM   #24 
  - Show the stats  merh   Aug-10-07 01:37 PM   #28 
  - He wants guns banned from urban areas  GeniusLib   Aug-10-07 02:23 PM   #43 
     - That is not banning guns or violating the 2nd amendment  merh   Aug-10-07 03:06 PM   #51 
        - So your saying...  beevul   Aug-10-07 03:55 PM   #54 
        - Did you know that there are regulations in place for years now  merh   Aug-10-07 04:01 PM   #55 
           - Which ones are those?  beevul   Aug-10-07 04:05 PM   #56 
              - The machine gun ban works OK  billbuckhead   Aug-10-07 11:15 PM   #70 
                 - Thanks for trying...  beevul   Aug-11-07 12:42 AM   #72 
                    - What is it then?  billbuckhead   Aug-11-07 01:07 AM   #73 
                       - I believe the question was...  beevul   Aug-11-07 01:18 AM   #75 
                          - Machine guns are banned except for the Dick Cheney's of AmeriKKKa  billbuckhead   Aug-11-07 01:35 AM   #80 
                             - Bzzzzt. Wrong answer.  beevul   Aug-11-07 01:47 AM   #82 
                                - The question is why does America lead the industrialized world in gun crime?  billbuckhead   Aug-11-07 02:09 AM   #90 
        - What?!  Realityhack   Aug-13-07 08:59 PM   #118 
  - "The American people need to understand"  billbuckhead   Aug-11-07 02:04 AM   #88 
  - I don't think he's a blowhard but you're damned right about whom to blame  JVS   Aug-11-07 01:12 AM   #74 
     - These gun shops and America's sicko gun culture ONLY enable it  billbuckhead   Aug-11-07 01:30 AM   #78 
        - Sacrifice your rights for the chillen  pipoman   Aug-11-07 08:46 AM   #94 
        - And you sound more conservative than my aunt Pearl.  zanne   Aug-11-07 08:58 AM   #95 
           - Please tell me one other  pipoman   Aug-11-07 09:19 AM   #97 
              - Could you provide sources for your statistics, please?  zanne   Aug-11-07 09:24 AM   #98 
              - On the contrary  pipoman   Aug-11-07 09:29 AM   #99 
                 - Discredit the source since you can't discredit the truth  billbuckhead   Aug-11-07 11:51 AM   #104 
                 - Ummmm....Could you answer my question, please?  zanne   Aug-11-07 01:08 PM   #108 
              - LBJ said that when he signed the civil rights bill the south was lost for a generation  billbuckhead   Aug-11-07 11:46 AM   #103 
        - And meanwhile, Rev. Pfleger threatens the lives of gun dealers and legislators...  derby378   Aug-11-07 09:31 AM   #100 
  - I sure wish Rev. Jackson luck although I disagree with his approach.  Wcross   Aug-11-07 11:01 AM   #101 
  - MADD covered a *lot* of bases  jaybeat   Aug-11-07 12:40 PM   #105 
     - Actually...  beevul   Aug-11-07 12:55 PM   #106 
        - Great. Things are better than I thought (nt)  jaybeat   Aug-11-07 11:30 PM   #112 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-11-07 01:37 PM   #110 
  - Have you read the rules about flame bait sir? n/t  Wcross   Aug-11-07 04:43 PM   #111 
  - We can have reasonable gun laws without going coo-coo  Realityhack   Aug-13-07 09:19 PM   #119 
 

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