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Fri Aug-10-07 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #48 |
| 60. Defending the NRA and it's obviously racist leadership once again? |
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Paul Blackman Head NRA Researcher On crime victims: " In fact, studies of homicide victims -- especially the increasing number of younger ones -- suggest they are frequently criminals themselves and/or drug addicts or users. It is quite possible that their deaths, in terms of economic consequences to society, are net gains." "The Federal Factoid Factory on Firearms and Violence: A Review of CDC Research and Policies." On Inner-City Redevelopment: " he NRA is composed primarily of non-big-city middle-class white males... They cannot be counted on any more than any other non-big-city middle-class whites to actively lobby to rebuild the inner cities. Further, even if the NRA attempted fully to address the problems of the inner city, it would no more be welcomed unhesitatingly and un suspiciously than would any other proposed interference by people who do not look as if they belong in the inner city?."
Charlton Heston Former NRA President
"Mainstream America is counting on you to draw your sword and fight for them. These people have precious little time and resources to battle misguided Cinderella attitudes, the fringe propaganda of the homosexual coalition, the feminists who preach that it is a divine duty for women to hate men, blacks who raise a militant fist with one hand while they seek preference with the other ?"
"I remember when European Jews feared to admit their faith. The Nazis forced them to wear yellow stars as identity badges. It worked. So what color star will they pin on gun owners chests? How will the self-styled elite tag us? There may not be a Gestapo officer on every street corner, but the influence on our culture is just as pervasive."
"On the other hand, I find my blood pressure rising when Clinton's cultural shock troops participate in gay-rights fundraisers but boycott gun-rights fundraisers and then claim it's time to place homosexual men in tents with Boy Scouts, and suggest that sperm donor babies born into lesbian relationships are somehow better served and more loved." --Speech to Free Congress Foundation
" I was astounded to read these courageous remarks by Charlton Heston. I am thankful to hear a man with such high esteem say essentially the same things for which I have been reviled by the liberal media. His words should be reproduced and put into the hands of every American." --DAVID DUKE's response to Heston's speech
Ted Nugent NRA Board of Directors
"Apartheid isn't that cut and dry. All men are not created equal. The preponderance of South Africa is a different breed of man. I mean that with no disrespect. I say that with great respect. I love them because I'm one of them. They are still people of the earth, but they are different. They still put bones in their noses, they still walk around naked, they wipe their butts with their hands ? These are different people. You give 'em toothpaste, they fucking eat it ... I hope they don't become civilized. They're way ahead of the game." --Detroit Free Press Magazine
On Racism: "I'm a fun guy, not a sexist or a racist?. I use the word ni##er a lot because I hang around with a lot of ni##ers ?." --Detroit Free Press Magazine
Jeff Cooper NRA Board of Directors
On Inner-City Violence: "…the consensus is that no more than five to ten people in a hundred who die by gunfire in Los Angeles are any loss to society. These people fight small wars amongst themselves. It would seem a valid social service to keep them well-supplied with ammunition." Cooper's Corner, Guns and Ammo
On the value of diversity: "The goal of good government is the optimum balance of liberty and order. Social diversity does not pull in that direction. Liberty is what we seek over the centuries, but if we grant it to too diverse a population, order disappears. Regarding the United States… it would seem that we ought to choose assimilation over diversity. It seems to me that diversity, rather than being a goal to be sought, should be an obstacle to be circumvented." Jeff Cooper's Commentaries (self-published newsletter)
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| -Jackson faces jury trial after arrest over gun shop demonstration |
billbuckhead |
Aug-07-07 07:32 PM |
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Jackson's a real hero; Obama just plays one on TV. |
Vidar |
Aug-07-07 07:43 PM |
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Feh. Jackson is a bit of a showboat, imo. It is his major weakness. |
yellowcanine |
Aug-07-07 08:45 PM |
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He is certainly a hero in my opinion and his strength |
goclark |
Aug-07-07 11:27 PM |
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The media has tried to portray him that way, but I completely disagree. |
jobycom |
Aug-08-07 12:52 AM |
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So were those uppity ex-slaves |
ProudDad |
Aug-11-07 01:35 PM |
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MLK was a show boat too... |
mikelgb |
Aug-08-07 10:47 AM |
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Anyone who seeks to lead the public successfully has to be a "showboat". |
Vidar |
Aug-09-07 01:42 AM |
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His public posturing in favor of keeping Terry Schiavo hooked up was pure publicity whoring. |
Seabiscuit |
Aug-10-07 07:21 PM |
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I have to disagree with that |
knight_of_the_star |
Aug-07-07 11:55 PM |
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Like congratulating Barry Bonds. |
D__S |
Aug-10-07 02:10 PM |
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They'll just use knives |
saigon68 |
Aug-07-07 08:50 PM |
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Much much harder to use knives. That's why bad guys want guns |
billbuckhead |
Aug-08-07 06:57 AM |
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That's why bad guys want guns. |
Speaker |
Aug-08-07 10:30 AM |
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They don' get guns very much in Japan , Ireland, the Uk, Sweden, etc |
billbuckhead |
Aug-08-07 12:26 PM |
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Yet Japan has a high suicide rate. |
beevul |
Aug-09-07 12:21 AM |
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When "legitimate" gun owners quit killing other Americans then I will |
billbuckhead |
Aug-09-07 09:41 PM |
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It would be refreshing... |
beevul |
Aug-10-07 01:39 AM |
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It's a fact. Most murders are between people who know each other |
billbuckhead |
Aug-10-07 07:14 PM |
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The VPC? You have got to be kidding. |
beevul |
Aug-10-07 08:17 PM |
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The highest murder rate of all industrial nations by multiples! Year after year |
billbuckhead |
Aug-10-07 11:11 PM |
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Yet you focus on the tools rather than the causes, of those murders. N/T |
beevul |
Aug-11-07 01:54 AM |
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It's much harder to kill without guns, that's why bad guys want guns |
billbuckhead |
Aug-11-07 01:58 AM |
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You don't care about the murder rates, you just hate guns. |
beevul |
Aug-11-07 02:06 AM |
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Guns make killing easy so even Scotland has lower murder rate than USA |
billbuckhead |
Aug-11-07 02:13 AM |
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And yet you regularly go after rifles seldom used in murder. |
beevul |
Aug-11-07 02:22 AM |
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Let's see, JFK and MLK can come back to life since rifles didn't kill them |
billbuckhead |
Aug-11-07 11:28 AM |
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Which of those was shot with a so called "assault weapon"? |
beevul |
Aug-11-07 12:59 PM |
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We don't know what kind of gun killed JFK. Some say an AR-15 |
billbuckhead |
Aug-11-07 11:43 PM |
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WTF?!? |
Realityhack |
Aug-13-07 08:46 PM |
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1963 to 1973 Jesus H. Christ |
pipoman |
Aug-11-07 02:23 AM |
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"Good guys' " guns get stolen by bad guys...duh! |
jaybeat |
Aug-10-07 10:53 AM |
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So go after the "good guys" guns before the theives, right? |
beevul |
Aug-10-07 12:15 PM |
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Taking away a gun that could kill me is self-defense |
jaybeat |
Aug-10-07 01:37 PM |
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False dichotomy...no gun can kill you on its own. |
beevul |
Aug-10-07 03:36 PM |
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The NRA isn't on my side, and neither are you. Don't let the DU door hit you on the way out. |
jaybeat |
Aug-10-07 08:46 PM |
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Excuse me? |
beevul |
Aug-10-07 10:21 PM |
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You want facts? Ha! I'll keep this short. |
jaybeat |
Aug-10-07 11:13 PM |
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This is going to be fun. |
beevul |
Aug-11-07 12:40 AM |
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Hell, most of the Republicans as well as the rest of the civilized world are for strong gun regs |
billbuckhead |
Aug-11-07 01:20 AM |
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Lieing to slam a Democrat...I am unsurprised. |
beevul |
Aug-11-07 01:44 AM |
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Many Republicans are for stronger gun regulation as well as most independents |
billbuckhead |
Aug-11-07 01:53 AM |
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And Im sure you'd take them over Richardson, purist that you are.N/T |
beevul |
Aug-11-07 01:57 AM |
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Richardson is "target shooting" |
billbuckhead |
Aug-11-07 02:02 AM |
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Like peanuts don't get eaten if they're not easily accessable |
billbuckhead |
Aug-10-07 11:14 PM |
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Funny logic there |
Realityhack |
Aug-13-07 09:36 PM |
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You just don't get it, do you? |
derby378 |
Aug-11-07 09:14 AM |
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Why switch from murder to suicide? Trying to change the subject??????? |
billbuckhead |
Aug-11-07 01:24 AM |
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Typical from someone that pads their stats with both. |
beevul |
Aug-12-07 09:22 PM |
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Aug-09-07 02:30 PM |
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Did you know Jesse Jackson and the Congressional Black Caucus is on the NRA enemies list? |
billbuckhead |
Aug-09-07 09:46 PM |
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My how times have changed... |
D__S |
Aug-10-07 10:55 AM |
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Baloney |
slackmaster |
Aug-10-07 02:29 PM |
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Well, they're black. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-10-07 02:30 PM |
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I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on that |
slackmaster |
Aug-10-07 02:39 PM |
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Yes, yes. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-10-07 02:41 PM |
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Do you have anything to back that up? |
slackmaster |
Aug-10-07 02:55 PM |
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... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-10-07 03:13 PM |
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mmmmmmmmmmkay |
slackmaster |
Aug-10-07 05:58 PM |
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Defending the NRA and it's obviously racist leadership once again? |
billbuckhead |
Aug-10-07 07:34 PM |
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No answer to that. Facts are stubborn things |
billbuckhead |
Aug-11-07 01:33 AM |
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Yeah...thats it... |
beevul |
Aug-10-07 08:00 PM |
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LOL |
FredScuttle |
Aug-12-07 11:47 AM |
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Aug-12-07 08:31 PM |
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Any MOFO who chases me |
saigon68 |
Aug-08-07 07:19 PM |
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Jackson needs to put his money where his mouth is... |
D__S |
Aug-10-07 10:40 AM |
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Amen to that |
slackmaster |
Aug-10-07 12:21 PM |
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Don't forget to mark your calander... |
D__S |
Aug-10-07 01:27 PM |
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August 28 is the anniversary of my buying Sturm, Ruger & Co. stock at $9.05 |
slackmaster |
Aug-10-07 01:33 PM |
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Buying ammo is always a good investment. |
D__S |
Aug-10-07 01:47 PM |
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Therefore, you are an owner of a firearm manufacturer doing advocacy/PR on the internet |
TheBorealAvenger |
Aug-10-07 01:50 PM |
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What'choo talking about, Willis? |
D__S |
Aug-10-07 02:02 PM |
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You still own Sturm, Ruger & Co. stock, don't you? |
TheBorealAvenger |
Aug-10-07 02:05 PM |
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No, that was me owning the stock |
slackmaster |
Aug-10-07 02:07 PM |
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Ha, I missed that. Cannot figure out why D_S was answering my post |
TheBorealAvenger |
Aug-10-07 02:13 PM |
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Smart move on GE's part, good on them |
slackmaster |
Aug-10-07 02:26 PM |
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My bad... |
D__S |
Aug-10-07 02:13 PM |
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No, that is not a true statement |
slackmaster |
Aug-10-07 02:05 PM |
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Busting on Jesse or advocating for less restrictions |
TheBorealAvenger |
Aug-10-07 02:09 PM |
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All I did was agree with D__S that JJ should be going after violent criminals and gangs |
slackmaster |
Aug-10-07 02:21 PM |
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If RGR sells more product, you do better |
TheBorealAvenger |
Aug-10-07 02:17 PM |
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RGR is probably the most socially responsible of all gun manufacturers |
slackmaster |
Aug-10-07 02:20 PM |
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It's all a big Amwaylike scam to con insecure men out of their money |
billbuckhead |
Aug-10-07 07:54 PM |
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I've been accused of some pretty bizarre things in my life |
slackmaster |
Aug-13-07 10:04 PM |
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You're saying Jackson supports gang bangers? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-10-07 12:23 PM |
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Where did I suggest anything like that? |
D__S |
Aug-10-07 01:19 PM |
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Post #18. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-10-07 02:30 PM |
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I don't see how you equate my comment that... |
D__S |
Aug-10-07 07:35 PM |
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Jackson needs to realize that guns are here to stay in America |
GeniusLib |
Aug-10-07 12:29 PM |
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Show the stats |
merh |
Aug-10-07 01:37 PM |
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He wants guns banned from urban areas |
GeniusLib |
Aug-10-07 02:23 PM |
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That is not banning guns or violating the 2nd amendment |
merh |
Aug-10-07 03:06 PM |
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So your saying... |
beevul |
Aug-10-07 03:55 PM |
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Did you know that there are regulations in place for years now |
merh |
Aug-10-07 04:01 PM |
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Which ones are those? |
beevul |
Aug-10-07 04:05 PM |
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The machine gun ban works OK |
billbuckhead |
Aug-10-07 11:15 PM |
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Thanks for trying... |
beevul |
Aug-11-07 12:42 AM |
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What is it then? |
billbuckhead |
Aug-11-07 01:07 AM |
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I believe the question was... |
beevul |
Aug-11-07 01:18 AM |
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Machine guns are banned except for the Dick Cheney's of AmeriKKKa |
billbuckhead |
Aug-11-07 01:35 AM |
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Bzzzzt. Wrong answer. |
beevul |
Aug-11-07 01:47 AM |
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The question is why does America lead the industrialized world in gun crime? |
billbuckhead |
Aug-11-07 02:09 AM |
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What?! |
Realityhack |
Aug-13-07 08:59 PM |
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"The American people need to understand" |
billbuckhead |
Aug-11-07 02:04 AM |
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I don't think he's a blowhard but you're damned right about whom to blame |
JVS |
Aug-11-07 01:12 AM |
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These gun shops and America's sicko gun culture ONLY enable it |
billbuckhead |
Aug-11-07 01:30 AM |
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Sacrifice your rights for the chillen |
pipoman |
Aug-11-07 08:46 AM |
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And you sound more conservative than my aunt Pearl. |
zanne |
Aug-11-07 08:58 AM |
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Please tell me one other |
pipoman |
Aug-11-07 09:19 AM |
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Could you provide sources for your statistics, please? |
zanne |
Aug-11-07 09:24 AM |
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On the contrary |
pipoman |
Aug-11-07 09:29 AM |
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Discredit the source since you can't discredit the truth |
billbuckhead |
Aug-11-07 11:51 AM |
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Ummmm....Could you answer my question, please? |
zanne |
Aug-11-07 01:08 PM |
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LBJ said that when he signed the civil rights bill the south was lost for a generation |
billbuckhead |
Aug-11-07 11:46 AM |
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And meanwhile, Rev. Pfleger threatens the lives of gun dealers and legislators... |
derby378 |
Aug-11-07 09:31 AM |
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I sure wish Rev. Jackson luck although I disagree with his approach. |
Wcross |
Aug-11-07 11:01 AM |
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MADD covered a *lot* of bases |
jaybeat |
Aug-11-07 12:40 PM |
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Actually... |
beevul |
Aug-11-07 12:55 PM |
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Great. Things are better than I thought (nt) |
jaybeat |
Aug-11-07 11:30 PM |
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Aug-11-07 01:37 PM |
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Have you read the rules about flame bait sir? n/t |
Wcross |
Aug-11-07 04:43 PM |
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We can have reasonable gun laws without going coo-coo |
Realityhack |
Aug-13-07 09:19 PM |
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