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Thu Aug-02-07 11:00 PM
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Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 11:02 PM by nothingtoofear
I don't mean that there are people that are leaning republican, I mean that there are people who are republican disingenuiously posing as democrat (or liberal in general) as a means to divide us. I'm sure of this, but I won't cite names or anything, they do have their right to their opinion where ever they may choose to post it providing it adhears to the same set of rules we must adhear to. However, I will continue to argue with them as I find them on a case by case basis with the intention of honest debate. And naturally I wouldn't accuse them of anything, but I can't claim not to recognize an increasing amount of odd positions found in amongst what is generally considered a liberal community in Democratic Underground. Of course I could just be paranoid. Mind you a paranoid man need only be right once, whilist a cynical man need only be wrong once.
Cheers, NTF
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| -DNC Announces Unprecedented Election Protection Project |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 11:37 AM |
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This is crucial work! I know that Dem lawyers made a difference in |
IndyOp |
Aug-02-07 11:40 AM |
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Uh - we HAVE the information - now STOP them |
debbierlus |
Aug-02-07 11:49 AM |
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I was waiting for someone to say something like that. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 11:52 AM |
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Well if debbierlus hadn't said it, I would have. |
NV Whino |
Aug-02-07 12:02 PM |
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The DNC can't change that stuff. Talk to congress. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 12:06 PM |
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Holt's bill |
disndat |
Aug-02-07 12:35 PM |
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Well, now we don't have it. We don't have anything. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 12:40 PM |
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You are repeating an undocumented smear against Rep. Holt. |
Cookie wookie |
Aug-03-07 07:50 AM |
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Tell me what the DNC can do about voting machines. Details please. Now. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 12:09 PM |
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Paper ballots and a pencil |
NV Whino |
Aug-02-07 12:23 PM |
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The DNC is NOT congress. Or did you not know that? |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 12:25 PM |
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Bingo. Its that simple. |
shance |
Aug-02-07 12:32 PM |
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Answer the question. How can the DNC do that? DNC not Congress. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 12:37 PM |
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Nope. It's not. It's not that simple. These kinds of posts infuriate me! |
Turn CO Blue |
Aug-02-07 02:48 PM |
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Not only do the procedures and rules have to be spelled out, they have to be sanctioned. |
live love laugh |
Aug-03-07 12:00 AM |
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oh, well said |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-03-07 09:29 AM |
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Coupla other things you didn't mention... |
TreasonousBastard |
Aug-03-07 09:52 AM |
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Excellent points, and I appreciate your expertise |
Turn CO Blue |
Aug-03-07 11:10 AM |
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Thanks, but I'm not that much of an expert, just... |
TreasonousBastard |
Aug-03-07 11:30 AM |
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pencil is ERASABLE! gotta be ink. Pencils are for grade school |
Turn CO Blue |
Aug-02-07 02:24 PM |
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paper penetrating ink! |
lonestarnot |
Aug-02-07 03:41 PM |
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Not only are there simple answers, |
NV Whino |
Aug-02-07 04:22 PM |
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As in a purple finger? |
liberal N proud |
Aug-02-07 04:17 PM |
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They could press legislators to enact laws that protect |
Cookie wookie |
Aug-03-07 07:40 AM |
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i think you are being a little too touchy. |
mopinko |
Aug-02-07 02:59 PM |
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No, I disagree. I don't think I am being too touchy at all. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 03:57 PM |
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This is supposed to be friendly conversation, not the inquisition. |
jazzjunkysue |
Aug-02-07 09:10 PM |
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The conversation has been anti-Democratic party. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 09:14 PM |
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There's content and there's form. Have your say without the heavy- |
jazzjunkysue |
Aug-02-07 10:20 PM |
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Yes, since you say so, I will become meek and softly spoken |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 10:30 PM |
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You GO madfloridian! Your conviction is commendable as is your composure. n/t |
live love laugh |
Aug-03-07 12:03 AM |
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no really, |
mopinko |
Aug-02-07 09:52 PM |
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And I did not criticize you. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 10:20 PM |
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i know, mad |
mopinko |
Aug-03-07 08:33 AM |
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You are right that we need to stop bashing Democrats |
Cookie wookie |
Aug-03-07 08:00 AM |
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Did you even read the press release? No, you say? |
madfloridian |
Aug-03-07 09:08 AM |
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hang on, hang on |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-03-07 09:55 AM |
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I don't know who is against anything anymore. |
madfloridian |
Aug-03-07 10:19 AM |
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The press release contains many details of previous suppressions. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 12:03 PM |
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Thx madfloridian! |
yowzayowzayowza |
Aug-02-07 12:24 PM |
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I think it is great, but the usual suspects do not. This is getting local. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 12:31 PM |
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We need to involve people at the local level who will advocate when someone is told they can't vote |
mzmolly |
Aug-02-07 12:36 PM |
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Nice post. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 12:58 PM |
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DEAN! DEAN! DEAN! The Doctor Is IN! |
Demeter |
Aug-02-07 12:50 PM |
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Is there a Democrat left in this country who doesn't love this guy? |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Aug-02-07 01:06 PM |
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I Can Think of a Few..... |
Demeter |
Aug-02-07 01:14 PM |
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True... |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Aug-02-07 01:24 PM |
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He said "Democrat" |
redqueen |
Aug-02-07 03:54 PM |
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Thank the goddess for Howard Dean. He gets it. |
yardwork |
Aug-02-07 01:15 PM |
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Doc Rocks! However, they need a "think tank" of experts and lawyers |
Zorra |
Aug-02-07 01:35 PM |
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Actually, reading DU's posts on the subject would be an excellent start. nt |
blondeatlast |
Aug-02-07 01:50 PM |
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That is what they are trying to do in this effort. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 02:03 PM |
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Seven years too late but, hell, I'll take it. Thank you, Gov/Dr/Chairman Dean nt |
tblue |
Aug-02-07 01:38 PM |
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Howard Dean has got my support on this |
ooglymoogly |
Aug-02-07 01:44 PM |
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I agree with you. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 02:05 PM |
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I will volunteer. I did that in 2004, and I feel that my small |
JDPriestly |
Aug-02-07 02:00 PM |
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This is good news, but it should have been done in 2004. However, |
wisteria |
Aug-02-07 02:17 PM |
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I can appreciate that the DNC is FINALLY addressing this |
Le Taz Hot |
Aug-02-07 02:26 PM |
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Never enough. Always too little too late. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 02:32 PM |
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Now, now. |
Le Taz Hot |
Aug-02-07 02:46 PM |
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Dean and the DNC can NOT address that problem of DREs |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 03:27 PM |
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Madfloridian, sorry you stopped your involvement |
Cookie wookie |
Aug-03-07 08:56 AM |
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Oh, I get it. Since election officials are often corrupt, we should not confront them. |
madfloridian |
Aug-03-07 09:00 AM |
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I don't think "getting lied to" enters into it |
Senator |
Aug-02-07 05:12 PM |
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To do the mapping, they could just go to websites incuding |
Cookie wookie |
Aug-03-07 09:06 AM |
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How do people get involved locally? Is it possible? The article didn't |
NoFederales |
Aug-02-07 02:31 PM |
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Well, Let Me Just Say This!!! |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-02-07 03:26 PM |
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You can simply go to your state Dem party and volunteer |
Senator |
Aug-02-07 04:57 PM |
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I was disappointed with the Missouri effort/attitude after '04. |
NoFederales |
Aug-03-07 06:18 AM |
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Way to go, Dems. It's a start! n/t |
tom_paine |
Aug-02-07 02:47 PM |
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Kicked and recommended |
Uncle Joe |
Aug-02-07 03:05 PM |
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This is a start, it's not at all the answer to ensure our vote is |
mother earth |
Aug-02-07 04:55 PM |
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Howard scores again; boy, does he make the former DNC chairmen |
MasonJar |
Aug-02-07 05:23 PM |
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k&r n/t |
zehnkatzen |
Aug-02-07 07:11 PM |
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When this survey is used to standardize all federal elections using |
Kip Humphrey |
Aug-02-07 07:12 PM |
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Kucinich's Bill |
youngharry |
Aug-02-07 07:39 PM |
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Democrats and 50 State Election |
youngharry |
Aug-02-07 07:13 PM |
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Who is the contact person for this initiative? |
AtLiberty |
Aug-02-07 07:19 PM |
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I am so happy to hear this. |
tbyg52 |
Aug-02-07 08:26 PM |
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To those in this thread who think the DNC can change voting laws..... |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 09:01 PM |
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You do have something |
nothingtoofear |
Aug-02-07 10:15 PM |
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Well, if only one speaks out....it will continue. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 10:18 PM |
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By no means... |
nothingtoofear |
Aug-02-07 11:00 PM |
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If it helps |
windy252 |
Aug-02-07 11:12 PM |
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I think we are saying the same thing. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 11:49 PM |
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I went back and reread the thread just to make sure... |
nothingtoofear |
Aug-03-07 12:38 AM |
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You are nicer than I am. |
madfloridian |
Aug-03-07 08:54 AM |
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Unfortunately, any implied threat of "we are going to be watching you" |
Cookie wookie |
Aug-03-07 09:25 AM |
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So you are saying no need to go local. Got it. |
madfloridian |
Aug-03-07 09:30 AM |
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"going local" seems too general |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-03-07 10:19 AM |
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Then why should any Democrats bother to do anything at all... |
madfloridian |
Aug-03-07 10:26 AM |
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that's not my view |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-03-07 11:02 AM |
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No, I'm not saying no need to go local. I think my ability to put |
Cookie wookie |
Aug-03-07 11:09 AM |
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Useless effort? |
madfloridian |
Aug-03-07 12:08 PM |
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Madfloridian, I didn't say it was a useless effort |
Cookie wookie |
Aug-03-07 12:51 PM |
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I agree |
nothingtoofear |
Aug-03-07 09:35 PM |
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Ok, remember when we were told to liower our expectations? |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 09:05 PM |
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So now when others put down the effort of the DNC.... |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 09:16 PM |
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Video of his Yearly Kos speech where he addresses this more. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 10:44 PM |
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He speaks of passing an improved Holt Bill, to get rid of DREs. |
madfloridian |
Aug-02-07 10:46 PM |
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GETTING RID OF DRE'S |
youngharry |
Aug-03-07 01:09 AM |
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Finally! n/t |
windy252 |
Aug-02-07 11:04 PM |
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K&R 45 |
themartyred |
Aug-03-07 02:26 AM |
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K & R 49er |
tiptoe |
Aug-03-07 05:03 AM |
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K&R |
bonito |
Aug-03-07 07:45 AM |
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Ok, so let's see them endorse open-source election code |
TrogL |
Aug-03-07 08:22 AM |
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What part of rigged software don't they understand! |
Joanne98 |
Aug-03-07 08:46 AM |
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SO...you are saying no voter suppression exists? Oh, my. |
madfloridian |
Aug-03-07 08:58 AM |
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Are U saying NO rigged voting machine software exists? |
Joanne98 |
Aug-03-07 10:01 AM |
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You don't know what the DNC is, do you? |
madfloridian |
Aug-03-07 10:35 AM |
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Yes I do know! I don't care if they're not Congress.... |
Joanne98 |
Aug-03-07 10:43 AM |
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see #109 n/t |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-03-07 11:12 AM |
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ooops....just gave yourself away.. |
madfloridian |
Aug-03-07 12:03 PM |
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fact check |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-03-07 11:11 AM |
#109 |
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DNC wants to investigate voter suppression at county level... |
madfloridian |
Aug-03-07 09:06 AM |
#93 |
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