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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:06 PM
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6. The DNC can't change that stuff. Talk to congress.
This makes me so furious with voting activists. Stopped the Holt Bill, complained when it was stopped, then blame congress.

I say good for the DNC. They are doing what they can do. This is why I gave up on trying to work with voting activists.

They are never satisfied.

Makes me sick. Glad you guys are so perfect, cause most of are don't go to the election forum because we don't understand it.

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  -DNC Announces Unprecedented Election Protection Project madfloridian  Aug-02-07 11:37 AM   #0 
  - This is crucial work! I know that Dem lawyers made a difference in  IndyOp   Aug-02-07 11:40 AM   #1 
  - Uh - we HAVE the information - now STOP them  debbierlus   Aug-02-07 11:49 AM   #2 
  - I was waiting for someone to say something like that.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 11:52 AM   #3 
     - Well if debbierlus hadn't said it, I would have.  NV Whino   Aug-02-07 12:02 PM   #4 
     - The DNC can't change that stuff. Talk to congress.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 12:06 PM   #6 
     - Holt's bill  disndat   Aug-02-07 12:35 PM   #13 
        - Well, now we don't have it. We don't have anything.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 12:40 PM   #16 
        - You are repeating an undocumented smear against Rep. Holt.  Cookie wookie   Aug-03-07 07:50 AM   #83 
     - Tell me what the DNC can do about voting machines. Details please. Now.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 12:09 PM   #7 
        - Paper ballots and a pencil  NV Whino   Aug-02-07 12:23 PM   #8 
        - The DNC is NOT congress. Or did you not know that?  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 12:25 PM   #10 
        - Bingo. Its that simple.  shance   Aug-02-07 12:32 PM   #12 
        - Answer the question. How can the DNC do that? DNC not Congress.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 12:37 PM   #15 
        - Nope. It's not. It's not that simple. These kinds of posts infuriate me!  Turn CO Blue   Aug-02-07 02:48 PM   #37 
           - Not only do the procedures and rules have to be spelled out, they have to be sanctioned.  live love laugh   Aug-03-07 12:00 AM   #74 
           - oh, well said  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-03-07 09:29 AM   #96 
           - Coupla other things you didn't mention...  TreasonousBastard   Aug-03-07 09:52 AM   #98 
              - Excellent points, and I appreciate your expertise  Turn CO Blue   Aug-03-07 11:10 AM   #108 
                 - Thanks, but I'm not that much of an expert, just...  TreasonousBastard   Aug-03-07 11:30 AM   #111 
        - pencil is ERASABLE! gotta be ink. Pencils are for grade school  Turn CO Blue   Aug-02-07 02:24 PM   #31 
           - paper penetrating ink!  lonestarnot   Aug-02-07 03:41 PM   #42 
           - Not only are there simple answers,  NV Whino   Aug-02-07 04:22 PM   #46 
           - As in a purple finger?  liberal N proud   Aug-02-07 04:17 PM   #45 
        - They could press legislators to enact laws that protect  Cookie wookie   Aug-03-07 07:40 AM   #81 
     - i think you are being a little too touchy.  mopinko   Aug-02-07 02:59 PM   #38 
        - No, I disagree. I don't think I am being too touchy at all.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 03:57 PM   #44 
           - This is supposed to be friendly conversation, not the inquisition.  jazzjunkysue   Aug-02-07 09:10 PM   #59 
           - The conversation has been anti-Democratic party.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 09:14 PM   #60 
              - There's content and there's form. Have your say without the heavy-  jazzjunkysue   Aug-02-07 10:20 PM   #66 
                 - Yes, since you say so, I will become meek and softly spoken  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 10:30 PM   #67 
                    - You GO madfloridian! Your conviction is commendable as is your composure. n/t  live love laugh   Aug-03-07 12:03 AM   #75 
           - no really,  mopinko   Aug-02-07 09:52 PM   #62 
           - And I did not criticize you.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 10:20 PM   #65 
              - i know, mad  mopinko   Aug-03-07 08:33 AM   #86 
           - You are right that we need to stop bashing Democrats  Cookie wookie   Aug-03-07 08:00 AM   #84 
              - Did you even read the press release? No, you say?  madfloridian   Aug-03-07 09:08 AM   #94 
                 - hang on, hang on  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-03-07 09:55 AM   #99 
                    - I don't know who is against anything anymore.  madfloridian   Aug-03-07 10:19 AM   #102 
  - The press release contains many details of previous suppressions.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 12:03 PM   #5 
  - Thx madfloridian!  yowzayowzayowza   Aug-02-07 12:24 PM   #9 
     - I think it is great, but the usual suspects do not. This is getting local.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 12:31 PM   #11 
  - We need to involve people at the local level who will advocate when someone is told they can't vote  mzmolly   Aug-02-07 12:36 PM   #14 
  - Nice post.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 12:58 PM   #18 
  - DEAN! DEAN! DEAN! The Doctor Is IN!  Demeter   Aug-02-07 12:50 PM   #17 
  - Is there a Democrat left in this country who doesn't love this guy?  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-02-07 01:06 PM   #19 
     - I Can Think of a Few.....  Demeter   Aug-02-07 01:14 PM   #20 
        - True...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-02-07 01:24 PM   #22 
        - He said "Democrat"  redqueen   Aug-02-07 03:54 PM   #43 
  - Thank the goddess for Howard Dean. He gets it.  yardwork   Aug-02-07 01:15 PM   #21 
  - Doc Rocks! However, they need a "think tank" of experts and lawyers  Zorra   Aug-02-07 01:35 PM   #23 
  - Actually, reading DU's posts on the subject would be an excellent start. nt  blondeatlast   Aug-02-07 01:50 PM   #26 
  - That is what they are trying to do in this effort.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 02:03 PM   #28 
  - Seven years too late but, hell, I'll take it. Thank you, Gov/Dr/Chairman Dean nt  tblue   Aug-02-07 01:38 PM   #24 
  - Howard Dean has got my support on this  ooglymoogly   Aug-02-07 01:44 PM   #25 
  - I agree with you.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 02:05 PM   #29 
  - I will volunteer. I did that in 2004, and I feel that my small  JDPriestly   Aug-02-07 02:00 PM   #27 
  - This is good news, but it should have been done in 2004. However,  wisteria   Aug-02-07 02:17 PM   #30 
  - I can appreciate that the DNC is FINALLY addressing this  Le Taz Hot   Aug-02-07 02:26 PM   #32 
  - Never enough. Always too little too late.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 02:32 PM   #34 
     - Now, now.  Le Taz Hot   Aug-02-07 02:46 PM   #35 
        - Dean and the DNC can NOT address that problem of DREs  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 03:27 PM   #41 
        - Madfloridian, sorry you stopped your involvement  Cookie wookie   Aug-03-07 08:56 AM   #89 
           - Oh, I get it. Since election officials are often corrupt, we should not confront them.  madfloridian   Aug-03-07 09:00 AM   #91 
        - I don't think "getting lied to" enters into it  Senator   Aug-02-07 05:12 PM   #49 
           - To do the mapping, they could just go to websites incuding  Cookie wookie   Aug-03-07 09:06 AM   #92 
  - How do people get involved locally? Is it possible? The article didn't  NoFederales   Aug-02-07 02:31 PM   #33 
  - Well, Let Me Just Say This!!!  ChiciB1   Aug-02-07 03:26 PM   #40 
  - You can simply go to your state Dem party and volunteer  Senator   Aug-02-07 04:57 PM   #48 
     - I was disappointed with the Missouri effort/attitude after '04.  NoFederales   Aug-03-07 06:18 AM   #80 
  - Way to go, Dems. It's a start! n/t  tom_paine   Aug-02-07 02:47 PM   #36 
  - Kicked and recommended  Uncle Joe   Aug-02-07 03:05 PM   #39 
  - This is a start, it's not at all the answer to ensure our vote is  mother earth   Aug-02-07 04:55 PM   #47 
  - Howard scores again; boy, does he make the former DNC chairmen  MasonJar   Aug-02-07 05:23 PM   #50 
  - k&r n/t  zehnkatzen   Aug-02-07 07:11 PM   #51 
  - When this survey is used to standardize all federal elections using  Kip Humphrey   Aug-02-07 07:12 PM   #52 
  - Kucinich's Bill  youngharry   Aug-02-07 07:39 PM   #55 
  - Democrats and 50 State Election  youngharry   Aug-02-07 07:13 PM   #53 
  - Who is the contact person for this initiative?  AtLiberty   Aug-02-07 07:19 PM   #54 
  - I am so happy to hear this.  tbyg52   Aug-02-07 08:26 PM   #56 
  - To those in this thread who think the DNC can change voting laws.....  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 09:01 PM   #57 
  - You do have something  nothingtoofear   Aug-02-07 10:15 PM   #63 
     - Well, if only one speaks will continue.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 10:18 PM   #64 
        - By no means...  nothingtoofear   Aug-02-07 11:00 PM   #70 
           - If it helps  windy252   Aug-02-07 11:12 PM   #72 
           - I think we are saying the same thing.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 11:49 PM   #73 
              - I went back and reread the thread just to make sure...  nothingtoofear   Aug-03-07 12:38 AM   #76 
                 - You are nicer than I am.  madfloridian   Aug-03-07 08:54 AM   #88 
                    - Unfortunately, any implied threat of "we are going to be watching you"  Cookie wookie   Aug-03-07 09:25 AM   #95 
                    - So you are saying no need to go local. Got it.  madfloridian   Aug-03-07 09:30 AM   #97 
                       - "going local" seems too general  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-03-07 10:19 AM   #101 
                       - Then why should any Democrats bother to do anything at all...  madfloridian   Aug-03-07 10:26 AM   #103 
                          - that's not my view  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-03-07 11:02 AM   #106 
                       - No, I'm not saying no need to go local. I think my ability to put  Cookie wookie   Aug-03-07 11:09 AM   #107 
                          - Useless effort?  madfloridian   Aug-03-07 12:08 PM   #113 
                             - Madfloridian, I didn't say it was a useless effort  Cookie wookie   Aug-03-07 12:51 PM   #114 
                    - I agree  nothingtoofear   Aug-03-07 09:35 PM   #115 
  - Ok, remember when we were told to liower our expectations?  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 09:05 PM   #58 
  - So now when others put down the effort of the DNC....  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 09:16 PM   #61 
  - Video of his Yearly Kos speech where he addresses this more.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 10:44 PM   #68 
  - He speaks of passing an improved Holt Bill, to get rid of DREs.  madfloridian   Aug-02-07 10:46 PM   #69 
     - GETTING RID OF DRE'S  youngharry   Aug-03-07 01:09 AM   #77 
  - Finally! n/t  windy252   Aug-02-07 11:04 PM   #71 
  - K&R 45  themartyred   Aug-03-07 02:26 AM   #78 
  - K & R 49er  tiptoe   Aug-03-07 05:03 AM   #79 
  - K&R  bonito   Aug-03-07 07:45 AM   #82 
  - Ok, so let's see them endorse open-source election code  TrogL   Aug-03-07 08:22 AM   #85 
  - What part of rigged software don't they understand!  Joanne98   Aug-03-07 08:46 AM   #87 
  - are saying no voter suppression exists? Oh, my.  madfloridian   Aug-03-07 08:58 AM   #90 
     - Are U saying NO rigged voting machine software exists?  Joanne98   Aug-03-07 10:01 AM   #100 
        - You don't know what the DNC is, do you?  madfloridian   Aug-03-07 10:35 AM   #104 
        - Yes I do know! I don't care if they're not Congress....  Joanne98   Aug-03-07 10:43 AM   #105 
           - see #109 n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-03-07 11:12 AM   #110 
           - ooops....just gave yourself away..  madfloridian   Aug-03-07 12:03 PM   #112 
        - fact check  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-03-07 11:11 AM   #109 
  - DNC wants to investigate voter suppression at county level...  madfloridian   Aug-03-07 09:06 AM   #93 

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