I-35W bridge collapses into Mississippi River in Minneapolis |
MnFats |
Aug-01-07 07:32 PM |
#0 |

Holy shit. Must be due to the humidity and 94 degree temps out there... |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 07:33 PM |
#1 |
 
Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Aug-01-07 09:33 PM |
#187 |

This is unreal. I hope this isn't because of cutbacks and lack of inspections. Recent |
kikiek |
Aug-01-07 07:35 PM |
#2 |
 
Right at rush hour too. Just think of future rush hours for the next couple of years. |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 07:36 PM |
#4 |
  
No kidding. And who will want to drive over a bridge ever again! |
kikiek |
Aug-01-07 07:37 PM |
#5 |
   
Jeff Passolt is floored by it all. |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 07:39 PM |
#8 |
  
I called my brother he does metal fatigue testing. They didn't do that bridge. Thank God! |
kikiek |
Aug-01-07 08:23 PM |
#96 |
   
Too bad your brother didn't do that bridge. |
KCdemocrat |
Aug-01-07 09:41 PM |
#196 |
  
The state DOT was supposed to be monitoring it. I don't expect the gov will take any responsibility. |
kikiek |
Aug-01-07 09:47 PM |
#204 |
  
The bridge got a clean bill of health in 2004 and in 2006 |
question everything |
Aug-01-07 10:38 PM |
#242 |
  
That isn't what they reported on ch 5. And actually ch 9 just had on the |
kikiek |
Aug-01-07 10:51 PM |
#249 |
  
All the heat and humidity? |
Robson |
Aug-01-07 10:00 PM |
#213 |
  
its a little pass rush hr in the twin cites (CT) |
rodeodance |
Aug-01-07 08:27 PM |
#105 |
 
A Lot of This Is Affected By the Privatization Squeeze |
Crisco |
Aug-01-07 07:46 PM |
#18 |
  
It has to be pointed out to people or they don't make the connection. |
kikiek |
Aug-01-07 07:59 PM |
#30 |
   
Privatization aka killing Americans for profits |
Robson |
Aug-01-07 08:13 PM |
#79 |
  
BS |
deadmessengers |
Aug-01-07 08:29 PM |
#112 |
   
As much as Robson may envision execution, the point is not killing them... |
Dr_eldritch |
Aug-01-07 08:50 PM |
#151 |
    
How about Hari-Kari? |
Robson |
Aug-01-07 09:10 PM |
#169 |
     
They simply don't have the guts. |
Dr_eldritch |
Aug-01-07 10:16 PM |
#226 |
    
"Making examples of them" |
deadmessengers |
Aug-01-07 09:35 PM |
#188 |
   
Agreed. |
Dr_eldritch |
Aug-01-07 10:15 PM |
#225 |
   
BS on you... |
dickbearton |
Aug-01-07 09:07 PM |
#166 |
    
So does life without parole |
deadmessengers |
Aug-01-07 09:32 PM |
#186 |
     
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-01-07 09:56 PM |
#211 |
      
I've heard that phrased differently, before |
deadmessengers |
Aug-01-07 10:44 PM |
#245 |
     
Sorry |
PoconoPragmatist |
Aug-02-07 01:25 AM |
#294 |
     
Fine... |
dickbearton |
Aug-01-07 10:19 PM |
#231 |
    
In the constitution? |
deadmessengers |
Aug-01-07 10:37 PM |
#241 |
    
The Constitution. Article III, Section 3 |
PoconoPragmatist |
Aug-02-07 01:33 AM |
#297 |
    
Ditto. I thought I was reading a quite from Ann "the ***" Coulter.... |
PurpleChez |
Aug-01-07 10:37 PM |
#239 |
    
So would you execute anyone convicted of ANY sort of crime, just to get them out of the way? |
LeftishBrit |
Aug-02-07 12:35 PM |
#342 |
   
Yes. |
LeftishBrit |
Aug-02-07 12:42 PM |
#343 |
  
Yes... |
dickbearton |
Aug-01-07 08:43 PM |
#139 |
  
Trust me, Minneapolis keeps up on road maintenance |
catgirl |
Aug-01-07 09:44 PM |
#200 |
  
Look for push to turn over more roads to corporations for toll roadways |
havocmom |
Aug-01-07 08:12 PM |
#76 |
   
Just like the oligarchs of Russia |
Robson |
Aug-01-07 09:04 PM |
#164 |
  
More like Fascism in Italy... |
dickbearton |
Aug-01-07 09:30 PM |
#185 |
  
I couldn't agree more ..we are going to hell gw & Co just take take take |
april |
Aug-01-07 08:26 PM |
#102 |
  
This bridge was inspected 3 yrs ago |
catgirl |
Aug-01-07 09:41 PM |
#195 |
 
Solid steel? |
Petrushka |
Aug-02-07 02:23 AM |
#306 |
 
Our roads here are falling apart, and our Repub governor vetoes extra funding |
NickB79 |
Aug-01-07 07:48 PM |
#20 |
  
It makes me want to cry. He is ruining our state. |
kikiek |
Aug-01-07 07:58 PM |
#28 |
  
He should get publicly |
zidzi |
Aug-01-07 09:21 PM |
#180 |
  
We should have told him it was a gas fee and not a tax? |
Kixel |
Aug-01-07 11:55 PM |
#268 |
 
I remember during the Ventura administration |
ftbc |
Aug-01-07 10:37 PM |
#240 |

That was a good beer I am glad you stopped. I was only as close as Uptown today. It is surreal. |
kikiek |
Aug-01-07 10:57 PM |
#253 |
 
Thanks. I had a friend to hold onto as we watched it on TV. (nt) |
ftbc |
Aug-01-07 11:06 PM |
#256 |

I'm glad you're ok. |
myrna minx |
Aug-02-07 10:06 AM |
#327 |

Star Tribune link |
frogbison |
Aug-01-07 07:35 PM |
#3 |

It's on the telly right now. Channel 9. |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 07:37 PM |
#6 |

FoxNews is discussing this on TV |
DemReadingDU |
Aug-01-07 07:38 PM |
#7 |

On MSNBC now. They're saying the bridge is on fire???? n/t |
mohinoaklawnillinois |
Aug-01-07 07:41 PM |
#9 |
 
Not the bridge, but there was a semi... the crash probably started the blaze. |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 07:43 PM |
#11 |
  
??? |
Skittles |
Aug-01-07 08:16 PM |
#82 |
   
My thoughts exactly. If heat and humidity can cause a bridge to fall |
KCdemocrat |
Aug-01-07 09:46 PM |
#201 |
  
there wouldn't be a single bridge standing in Texas |
Skittles |
Aug-01-07 10:15 PM |
#224 |
  
Heat & humidity doesn't cause a steele bridge to collapse |
catgirl |
Aug-01-07 09:47 PM |
#205 |
   
The seasonal temperature changes might |
krispos42 |
Aug-02-07 03:38 AM |
#310 |
  
I Call Bullshit!! |
PoconoPragmatist |
Aug-01-07 09:58 PM |
#212 |
 
I don't think heat brought the bridge down... |
MN Against Bush |
Aug-01-07 10:36 PM |
#237 |
  
Agreed |
PoconoPragmatist |
Aug-02-07 01:35 AM |
#298 |
 
Have you ever been to Minneapolis in the summer? |
MN Against Bush |
Aug-02-07 08:25 AM |
#316 |
 
It does make sense |
Marrah_G |
Aug-02-07 08:47 AM |
#322 |
 
Like Hell!! |
PoconoPragmatist |
Aug-02-07 12:34 PM |
#341 |
 
Define "freeze your ass off" |
dflprincess |
Aug-02-07 01:42 PM |
#350 |
  
Sure. Anything Below 40 Degrees Fahrenheit. n/t |
PoconoPragmatist |
Aug-02-07 02:39 PM |
#352 |
 
40 degrees - above 0? |
dflprincess |
Aug-02-07 04:48 PM |
#356 |
 
Yeah. That's When Houstonians Freeze Their Asses Off! |
PoconoPragmatist |
Aug-02-07 05:22 PM |
#357 |
 
40 degrees is not even close to "freezing your ass off" |
Marrah_G |
Aug-03-07 08:04 AM |
#360 |
 
What do you consider cold? |
Marrah_G |
Aug-03-07 08:01 AM |
#359 |
 
I thought they said a tanker truck was burning. |
No Surrender |
Aug-01-07 07:43 PM |
#12 |
  
they just showed an airal view--no smoke |
rodeodance |
Aug-01-07 08:32 PM |
#120 |
  
Here's a pic of the fire |
RamboLiberal |
Aug-01-07 08:34 PM |
#127 |
 
Gutnecht is a friend of mine. we used to work together. |
MnFats |
Aug-01-07 08:52 PM |
#153 |
 
I think there are vehicles on fire |
DemReadingDU |
Aug-01-07 07:44 PM |
#13 |
 
theyre talking about vehicles on fire below former bridge route |
MnFats |
Aug-01-07 07:44 PM |
#14 |

I keep thinking I know someone in that godawful mess. |
MnFats |
Aug-01-07 08:19 PM |
#85 |

Good point about the convention |
Lifelong Protester |
Aug-01-07 08:27 PM |
#108 |

oh damn, my relatives went over 1/2 hr before. |
uppityperson |
Aug-01-07 09:16 PM |
#174 |

OK.... |
PoconoPragmatist |
Aug-01-07 10:00 PM |
#214 |

I am so glad your family is alright. |
Cybergata |
Aug-02-07 01:02 AM |
#286 |

We need to wait for the facts to come out |
bluestateguy |
Aug-01-07 07:42 PM |
#10 |

There is a school bus in the water |
azurnoir |
Aug-01-07 07:44 PM |
#15 |
 
Wolf just said the schoolkids were okay. |
dubyadubya3 |
Aug-01-07 07:50 PM |
#22 |

Thanks, I hope he's right |
azurnoir |
Aug-01-07 08:00 PM |
#32 |

Very worried up here in Brainerd, MN. Phones are jammed and I can't get ahold of my sister. |
Beausoir |
Aug-01-07 07:45 PM |
#16 |
 
...... |
Bjornsdotter |
Aug-01-07 07:54 PM |
#25 |
 
I'm hoping with you that everything is okay with your sister |
qanda |
Aug-01-07 07:59 PM |
#29 |
 
Finally, my sister phoned. All are safe. So funny how I panic in a situation such as this. |
Beausoir |
Aug-01-07 08:20 PM |
#88 |
  
I'm glad your sister is okay |
qanda |
Aug-01-07 08:28 PM |
#109 |
 
On KARE 11 they said do not panic on the phone thing yet |
Lifelong Protester |
Aug-01-07 08:31 PM |
#114 |
 
Correction: all phones in Minn. area are jammed |
catgirl |
Aug-01-07 09:51 PM |
#208 |
 
My brother couldn't call out of North St Paul |
mycritters2 |
Aug-01-07 10:35 PM |
#236 |

TERRA! TERRA! TERRA! |
NoodleyAppendage |
Aug-01-07 07:45 PM |
#17 |
 
It happened on (R) Governor Pawlenty's watch. Who runs the DoT again... |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 07:48 PM |
#21 |
  
Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Aug-01-07 09:46 PM |
#202 |
  
Lt. Gov./Commisioner of Transportation Carol Molnau |
ftbc |
Aug-01-07 10:54 PM |
#250 |
  
I will remember that it was on Governor Pawlenty's watch. |
Bosso 63 |
Aug-02-07 09:00 AM |
#325 |
 
Every damn local station is bleating "Homeland Security vehicle sighted..." |
Thor_MN |
Aug-01-07 09:25 PM |
#182 |

Damn. That's terrible. |
dubyadubya3 |
Aug-01-07 07:46 PM |
#19 |

msnbc said there was bumper to bumper traffic and this |
orleans |
Aug-01-07 07:50 PM |
#23 |
 
Due to construction, only one lane was open in each direction |
Penndems |
Aug-01-07 08:33 PM |
#121 |

Just damn!!! n/t |
Purveyor |
Aug-01-07 07:51 PM |
#24 |

I'm listening on the teevee in the background |
TheCentepedeShoes |
Aug-01-07 07:55 PM |
#26 |
 
I went over the Sunshine the day before it got knocked down. |
karlrschneider |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#70 |

Let me know when you get |
here_is_to_hope |
Aug-01-07 08:26 PM |
#104 |
 
I think I probably should just avoid going near bridges. |
karlrschneider |
Aug-01-07 08:45 PM |
#140 |
 
you live in Coos Bay?? |
montanto |
Aug-02-07 03:54 PM |
#353 |

Do you mean the Sunshine Bridge in Tampa? |
happyslug |
Aug-01-07 10:37 PM |
#238 |

Please post your car license number so . . . |
Cybergata |
Aug-02-07 01:10 AM |
#290 |

CNN Says the Bus Kids Are Safe |
Crisco |
Aug-01-07 07:58 PM |
#27 |

Good Lord, it's suppose to start raining there very soon... |
Az_lefty |
Aug-01-07 07:59 PM |
#31 |
 
And we're desperate for rain - but we have to hope it holds off |
dflprincess |
Aug-01-07 08:49 PM |
#149 |

need 1 more rec |
DemReadingDU |
Aug-01-07 08:00 PM |
#33 |

god, I am getting chills. |
alyce douglas |
Aug-01-07 08:00 PM |
#34 |
 
Why? |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 08:03 PM |
#36 |
 
The scary thing it, the bridge wasn't even very old. |
smirkymonkey |
Aug-01-07 08:39 PM |
#138 |

link to TMJ4, Milwaukee -- no pix or video yet |
eppur_se_muova |
Aug-01-07 08:03 PM |
#35 |
 
CNN |
eppur_se_muova |
Aug-01-07 08:04 PM |
#37 |
 
Watched the slideshow. Incredible. |
mycritters2 |
Aug-01-07 10:06 PM |
#218 |

I-35W bridge collapses (Breaking Disaster in Downtown Minneapolis) |
goodhue |
Aug-01-07 08:04 PM |
#38 |
 
HOLY SHIT--they are showing it on MSNBC, what a DEBACLE! NT |
MADem |
Aug-01-07 08:04 PM |
#39 |
  
They had a different camera angle, so it puts the location in perspective. |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 08:04 PM |
#40 |
 
How could it have happened? Will Bushco wave the terrah flag? NT |
MADem |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#43 |
 
Heat and humidity. Roads can buckle and even 'explode' under intense heat. |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#49 |
  
It is pretty hot there today - Temperature extremes are hard on things |
slackmaster |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#61 |
   
I've heard of incidents of roads buckling and such due to high temps/humidity |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#64 |
  
Anything can happen under Bushco |
Robson |
Aug-01-07 09:15 PM |
#172 |
  
Not quite hot enough for that. |
Xithras |
Aug-01-07 09:35 PM |
#189 |
   
Exactly |
PoconoPragmatist |
Aug-01-07 10:07 PM |
#219 |
  
Yeah....INTENSE HEAT!! |
PoconoPragmatist |
Aug-01-07 10:05 PM |
#217 |
  
That's some pretty wild speculation there |
HughMoran |
Aug-01-07 11:18 PM |
#259 |
 
Could be a by-product of our GWOT. |
Old and In the Way |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#57 |
  
Meanwhile, we offshore everything to other countries and improve their infrastructures... |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#60 |
 
report is that homeland (in)security is already on the scene |
Lifelong Protester |
Aug-01-07 08:28 PM |
#111 |
 
Duplicate post |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#41 |
 
More infrastructure woes |
PetrusMonsFormicarum |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#42 |
  
everything's breaking. That's what happens when one drowns a government in the bathtub. |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#44 |
   
It happened on (R) Governor Pawlenty's watch. |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#53 |
   
Yeah. Thank Grover Norquist! n/t |
PoconoPragmatist |
Aug-01-07 10:07 PM |
#220 |
  
We're spending trillions to fight them over there so our levees and |
4MoronicYears |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#47 |
   
We're also offshoring jobs over there too. |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#56 |
   
Well said |
Robson |
Aug-01-07 09:17 PM |
#175 |
  
Do we know that to be the cause? Or did a nefarious IRA Provo, or other terra equivalent, put some |
MADem |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#58 |
 
Time will tell. |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#62 |
 
Olbermann is doing a very good job sorting fact from speculation. |
MADem |
Aug-01-07 08:21 PM |
#91 |
 
Keith was awesome! |
MaineDem |
Aug-02-07 06:54 AM |
#312 |
 
School bush with children, cars on fire |
Bitwit1234 |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#45 |
 
fox has aerial video -- really bad -- n/t |
nedbal |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#46 |
  
I just switched to Fox. This is absolutely horrific. |
tandot |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#59 |
 
30-50 cars in the river according to KSTP |
goodhue |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#48 |
  
At least 6 just reported on FOX 9 (Jeff Passolt) |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#50 |
  
Now they are saying over 100 cars will be more like it |
Lifelong Protester |
Aug-01-07 08:49 PM |
#148 |
 
I wonder if it was from infrastructure neglect? |
Old and In the Way |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#51 |
  
Time will tell. I'm waiting for the politicians to show up on the airwaves with their response. |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#54 |
 
Bush just asked Condi to fetch him some cake and a guitar |
aint_no_life_nowhere |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#65 |
 
Crap!!! |
Rick Myers |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#52 |
 
Prayers for everyone on that bridge. |
brentspeak |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#55 |
  
rescue vechicle and personnel is what is needed, not prayers |
Skittles |
Aug-02-07 06:46 AM |
#311 |
 
Uh, I never said.... |
brentspeak |
Aug-02-07 11:16 AM |
#333 |
 
holy crap |
The_Warmth |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#63 |
  
There but for the grace of God............ |
kestrel91316 |
Aug-01-07 08:31 PM |
#115 |
  
Oh my. |
Olney Blue |
Aug-01-07 08:39 PM |
#137 |
  
I was as well |
leftist_rebel1569 |
Aug-01-07 10:24 PM |
#232 |
 
Continued collapse of US infrastucture... remember the levees? Manhatten? |
BeHereNow |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#66 |
 
This is getting ridiculous |
bighughdiehl |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#67 |
  
Ah, What Do The Republicans Fuckin Care?? |
PoconoPragmatist |
Aug-01-07 10:11 PM |
#222 |
 
Bumper to bumper traffic!!! |
Rick Myers |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#68 |
 
. |
BrightKnight |
Aug-01-07 08:34 PM |
#126 |

Freeway bridge collapses into river during rush hour in Minneapolis (AP/CNN) |
eppur_se_muova |
Aug-01-07 08:05 PM |
#69 |

Bush: Iraq needs our money more than our crumbling American infrastructure |
Bluebear |
Aug-01-07 08:06 PM |
#71 |

I predict we'll find it was due to corrosion. |
Gregorian |
Aug-01-07 08:07 PM |
#72 |
 
We get 35 below in the winter, it was 100 today! |
Rick Myers |
Aug-01-07 08:16 PM |
#81 |

Expansion, contraction, corrosion. And that's a relatively young bridge.. |
Gregorian |
Aug-01-07 08:33 PM |
#122 |

Ok that's it. I'm staying completely |
cliss |
Aug-01-07 08:08 PM |
#73 |

HASN'T THE BRIDGE BEEN WORKED ON FOR THE LAST 2 MONTHS BY A CONTRACTOR? |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 08:09 PM |
#74 |
 
Indeed, they were working on it at the time! |
goodhue |
Aug-01-07 08:19 PM |
#86 |
  
OMG |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 08:31 PM |
#116 |
   
They were resurfacing. |
Gregorian |
Aug-01-07 08:34 PM |
#125 |
  
Aye. Just a lot of unfortunate circumstances at just the wrong time. |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 08:38 PM |
#136 |
  
Actually I was wrong about that. It was more invasive than just resurfacing. |
Gregorian |
Aug-01-07 08:46 PM |
#145 |
   
actually there was not pile driving near the bridge, the national media got that wrong I think |
goodhue |
Aug-01-07 09:21 PM |
#179 |
  
No apology... |
dickbearton |
Aug-01-07 10:03 PM |
#216 |
  
Here is a map of the area they were |
here_is_to_hope |
Aug-01-07 08:36 PM |
#134 |
 
Only superficial repairs to the surface |
Lifelong Protester |
Aug-01-07 08:34 PM |
#123 |

OMG, this is unreal |
sandnsea |
Aug-01-07 08:11 PM |
#75 |
 
It's not, they just said it was built in the mid 60's. |
smirkymonkey |
Aug-01-07 08:52 PM |
#154 |

All the best to those in Minnesota. The rest can wait. |
faygokid |
Aug-01-07 08:12 PM |
#77 |
 
What a shocking thing to happen!!! |
Rick Myers |
Aug-01-07 08:20 PM |
#89 |
  
Take care. This will be a lifetime memory. |
faygokid |
Aug-01-07 08:27 PM |
#107 |
 
No Chance |
PoconoPragmatist |
Aug-01-07 10:14 PM |
#223 |

we're too busy spending money to blow up bridges in Iraq to |
Flaxbee |
Aug-01-07 08:12 PM |
#78 |
 
Bingo |
Robson |
Aug-01-07 08:15 PM |
#80 |

double Bingo |
Lifelong Protester |
Aug-01-07 08:53 PM |
#155 |

They're interviewing a structural engineer on KSTP |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Aug-01-07 08:17 PM |
#83 |

THE GREAT NEWS IS |
SydneyBristow |
Aug-01-07 08:18 PM |
#84 |

all kinds of crazy |
mikelgb |
Aug-01-07 08:19 PM |
#87 |

KO repeats divers in water now looking for survivors/victims |
Bluebear |
Aug-01-07 08:20 PM |
#90 |

My daughter lives in Minneapolis |
tinrobot |
Aug-01-07 08:21 PM |
#92 |
 
My sister just got through to me. Keep trying. Prayers to you! |
Beausoir |
Aug-01-07 08:23 PM |
#97 |
 
I just got through to my daughter. |
snacker |
Aug-01-07 08:50 PM |
#150 |
 
I have a sister and several cousins living in the Twin Cities, too |
Qanisqineq |
Aug-01-07 10:40 PM |
#243 |

as an aside: will GOP yank its convo? cause traffic in twin cities to be fucked for months |
MnFats |
Aug-01-07 08:22 PM |
#93 |
 
Has Pawlenty said ANYTHING yet? even 'we regret this tragedy' would do. |
MnFats |
Aug-01-07 08:23 PM |
#95 |
  
Yes, appeared with Rybak |
question everything |
Aug-01-07 10:50 PM |
#248 |
 
WOW! Interesting point. Very interesting. This will certainly snarl things for months. |
Beausoir |
Aug-01-07 08:25 PM |
#101 |
 
Months? We've been hosed for years |
northernsoul |
Aug-02-07 12:08 AM |
#272 |

abc said it Buckled--------reporting now |
rodeodance |
Aug-01-07 08:22 PM |
# |
 
i know people up there----been over it a thousand times. used to work there |
rodeodance |
Aug-01-07 08:24 PM |
#99 |
 
they had a view from the air------whow, just whow. Its gone |
rodeodance |
Aug-01-07 08:26 PM |
#103 |
 
I thought as much. |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 08:32 PM |
#118 |

MN Gov. Pawlenty has been busy as Co-Chair of McCain's Presidential campaign. Just FYI. |
Beausoir |
Aug-01-07 08:22 PM |
#94 |
 
And didn't he refuse to allow the gas tax to be raised during the last legislative session? |
dflprincess |
Aug-01-07 08:46 PM |
#143 |

"Squatskey" (eom) |
wellst0nev0ter |
Aug-02-07 01:23 AM |
#293 |

I hope everyone is able to be safe |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Aug-01-07 08:23 PM |
#98 |

A good example |
Hobbs |
Aug-01-07 08:24 PM |
#100 |
 
I not sure it was decaying infrastructure |
goodhue |
Aug-01-07 08:28 PM |
#110 |
  
You think the contractors cut the wrong bolt or something & wrecked the bridge? |
Bluebear |
Aug-01-07 08:34 PM |
#124 |
   
Jackhammers, heat and explosions |
goodhue |
Aug-01-07 08:37 PM |
#135 |
  
Local news reported a recent MN DOT report said there was start of metal fatigue. They |
kikiek |
Aug-01-07 08:46 PM |
#141 |
 
Amen. And welcome to DU! |
YDogg |
Aug-01-07 08:29 PM |
#113 |

Thank GOD this wasn't TERRORISM |
jgraz |
Aug-01-07 08:27 PM |
#106 |
 
They have been working on the bridge; repair or expansion... |
HypnoToad |
Aug-01-07 08:35 PM |
#131 |
 
should we thank God it was for some other reason? |
Skittles |
Aug-01-07 09:15 PM |
#173 |
  
That, I'm sure, was sarcasm. |
David__77 |
Aug-01-07 10:44 PM |
#246 |
 
Who needs terrorists when we have Republicans? |
eridani |
Aug-02-07 01:32 AM |
#296 |

Very well said |
jgraz |
Aug-02-07 07:31 AM |
#314 |

A horrible, horrible tragedy - prayers to all |
Penndems |
Aug-01-07 08:31 PM |
#117 |

I was on that bridge 2 weeks ago |
deadmessengers |
Aug-01-07 08:32 PM |
#119 |
 
breaking news. no word on surviors, or deaths, or injuries. 450 ft across, 1970 it opened |
rodeodance |
Aug-01-07 08:34 PM |
#128 |

happened at 6 pm CT |
rodeodance |
Aug-01-07 08:35 PM |
#130 |

good scens showing now. |
rodeodance |
Aug-01-07 08:36 PM |
#133 |

uffda! |
JVS |
Aug-01-07 08:34 PM |
#129 |
 
Must be due to the errant throwing of a peanut butter sandwich.... |
RPM |
Aug-01-07 11:47 PM |
#266 |

I remember the South Padre Island (TX) Bridge collapse in 2001 |
bluestateguy |
Aug-01-07 08:35 PM |
#132 |
 
I Remember That! |
PoconoPragmatist |
Aug-01-07 10:18 PM |
#227 |
 
Wikipedia on that bridge collapse |
happyslug |
Aug-01-07 10:54 PM |
#252 |

Twins game, which was scheduled to be begin at 7:10 p.m. at the nearby Metrodome. |
rodeodance |
Aug-01-07 08:46 PM |
#142 |
 
And they kept at it - after an annoucement on the PA |
question everything |
Aug-01-07 10:54 PM |
#251 |

Most of my family and our friends also are in Twin Cities |
Hardrada |
Aug-01-07 08:46 PM |
#144 |

5 blocks from my house, my wife and I drive on it about 4 times a day |
Worst Username Ever |
Aug-01-07 08:46 PM |
#146 |

The arched bridge, which was built in 1967, rises about 64 feet above the river. |
rodeodance |
Aug-01-07 08:47 PM |
#147 |
 
40 years is not that old for a bridge |
goodhue |
Aug-01-07 08:50 PM |
#152 |
 
Info on the bridge |
RamboLiberal |
Aug-01-07 08:59 PM |
#161 |

good info |
goodhue |
Aug-01-07 09:01 PM |
#163 |

Very interesting. The pics reveal two possibilities.... |
Xithras |
Aug-01-07 09:43 PM |
#199 |

I also heard that lanes were closed for resurfacing. |
MilesColtrane |
Aug-02-07 01:06 AM |
#288 |

Oddly, the last thing I heard on the local news at 6 before I turned the tube off |
dflprincess |
Aug-01-07 08:53 PM |
#156 |
 
This may solve the Rail problem |
happyslug |
Aug-01-07 11:47 PM |
#267 |

Oh, this is just FUCKING GREAT. A thunderstorm approaches twin cities... |
MnFats |
Aug-01-07 08:54 PM |
#157 |
 
It went through here already. We are west and didn't get the worse of it. Mpls has the red part |
kikiek |
Aug-01-07 08:57 PM |
#159 |

Prayers for all in MPLS |
wellstone dem |
Aug-01-07 08:55 PM |
#158 |

Reminds me of the Sunshine Skyway.... |
PeterU |
Aug-01-07 08:58 PM |
#160 |

1-3 fatalities so far |
goodhue |
Aug-01-07 09:00 PM |
#162 |
 
Yes, one of the local residents interviewed said that she could tell |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Aug-01-07 09:06 PM |
#165 |

Personal safety no place to be found these days. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-01-07 09:08 PM |
#167 |

Mpls Dilema: how to disperse 22,000 Minnesota Twins fans? in dome now... |
MnFats |
Aug-01-07 09:09 PM |
#168 |
 
Wise thing would be to let them out in clusters; hope they have an evacuation plan... |
Hekate |
Aug-01-07 09:20 PM |
#178 |

Collapsed onto "businesses under the freeway" |
rainbow4321 |
Aug-01-07 09:11 PM |
#170 |
 
not much in the way of buildings underneath bridge |
goodhue |
Aug-01-07 09:23 PM |
#181 |

That's good |
rainbow4321 |
Aug-01-07 09:39 PM |
#192 |

There is a scenic pathway with shops/bars along the river (and UNder the bridge). I have |
rodeodance |
Aug-01-07 10:24 PM |
#233 |
 
The shops & bars are all well north of the bridge. |
goodhue |
Aug-02-07 08:34 AM |
#317 |

a couple industrial train cars were crushed |
goodhue |
Aug-02-07 08:39 AM |
#318 |

I'm surprised |
OlderButWiser |
Aug-01-07 09:12 PM |
#171 |

Link to more pictures |
uppityperson |
Aug-01-07 09:18 PM |
#176 |

Fatigue Assessment of Deck Truss of Bridge 9340 TH I35W over the Mississippi River |
ryanus |
Aug-01-07 09:19 PM |
#177 |
 
That was the 2001 report. There was a May 2006 one mentioned that is being reported |
kikiek |
Aug-01-07 09:38 PM |
#191 |

Thunderstorms coming in now |
Lurker No More |
Aug-01-07 09:28 PM |
#183 |

Well wishes to the people of Minneapolis and MN |
wryter2000 |
Aug-01-07 09:29 PM |
#184 |
 
Thank you so much |
Lurker No More |
Aug-01-07 09:36 PM |
#190 |

I pray to my maker for all those poor people... I cannot even IMAGINE how terifying |
themartyred |
Aug-01-07 09:40 PM |
#193 |

Rain has stopped |
Lurker No More |
Aug-01-07 09:40 PM |
#194 |

Blessings and prayers for their spirits, family, and friends |
Botany |
Aug-01-07 09:42 PM |
#197 |

KARE: Twenty-eight people injured thus far, six critically. One drowning victim. |
Penndems |
Aug-01-07 09:42 PM |
#198 |
 
Sadly, those are only those recovered thus far. |
Xithras |
Aug-01-07 09:46 PM |
#203 |

Deepest condolences to Minnesotans, particularly those who have suffered losses |
Penndems |
Aug-01-07 09:50 PM |
#207 |

Most of the bridge fell straight down |
pimpbot |
Aug-01-07 09:52 PM |
#210 |

Oh. My. God. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-01-07 09:48 PM |
#206 |

Christ, I Hope No One Got Seriously Hurt!! |
PoconoPragmatist |
Aug-01-07 09:52 PM |
#209 |
 
6 people reported dead and 25 injured so far. Resue continues. |
rodeodance |
Aug-01-07 10:18 PM |
#229 |

I went for walk along the path of the river (and locks) just a month ago. Hard to imagine |
rodeodance |
Aug-01-07 10:19 PM |
#230 |

KARE: Go to the Holiday Inn Metro Seven Corners Ballroom if you need info on loved ones |
Penndems |
Aug-01-07 10:02 PM |
#215 |

6 dead so far, 9:09 cdt press conference |
Bluebear |
Aug-01-07 10:09 PM |
#221 |

I've driven that bridge many times |
detroitsuperfly |
Aug-01-07 10:18 PM |
#228 |

Listen to this report from KSTP - beam cracking reported in 2006 |
RamboLiberal |
Aug-01-07 10:30 PM |
#234 |
 
Structural CRACKS? CRACKS IN BEAMS, This bridge should have been CLOSED. |
happyslug |
Aug-02-07 12:20 AM |
#277 |
 
From what they read it was addressing 'Approach Spans' |
loindelrio |
Aug-02-07 12:48 AM |
#279 |

This is so sad... |
Rainscents |
Aug-01-07 10:34 PM |
#235 |

you can see the walkway and locks below the bridge on these pics: |
rodeodance |
Aug-01-07 10:43 PM |
#244 |
 
I look forward to Bush's condolences |
lebkuchen |
Aug-02-07 01:07 AM |
#289 |

My God what a tragedy |
AllyCat |
Aug-01-07 10:48 PM |
#247 |

7 fatalities now reported via MSNBC. nt |
coffeenap |
Aug-01-07 10:59 PM |
#254 |

dupity. |
IamyourTVandIownyou |
Aug-01-07 11:05 PM |
#255 |
 
dupe |
IamyourTVandIownyou |
Aug-01-07 11:08 PM |
#257 |

wiki I35W Bridge |
IamyourTVandIownyou |
Aug-01-07 11:10 PM |
#258 |

I just saw the clip of Tim Pawlenty... |
eauclaireliberal |
Aug-01-07 11:19 PM |
#260 |
 
The GOP is its own worst enemy. |
lebkuchen |
Aug-02-07 01:01 AM |
#285 |

Inspection Reports from 2001 detailing fatigue cracking |
RamboLiberal |
Aug-01-07 11:27 PM |
#261 |
 
Actually, that 2001 report stated that there was NOT any fatigue cracking at that point, |
kath |
Aug-01-07 11:34 PM |
#263 |

The problem with fatigue cracking is that it can be very hard to detect |
loindelrio |
Aug-01-07 11:55 PM |
#269 |

Slow Traffic Due To Construction Work |
OrangeCountyDemocrat |
Aug-01-07 11:28 PM |
#262 |
 
7 confirmed dead up to 60 injured. |
MNDEM2004 |
Aug-01-07 11:44 PM |
#264 |
 
I don't know that they have determined that the... |
adsosletter |
Aug-02-07 01:45 AM |
#301 |
 
Or it put a lot more cars on the bridge at the time |
RamboLiberal |
Aug-02-07 12:00 PM |
#335 |

I wonder... |
Unca Jim |
Aug-01-07 11:45 PM |
#265 |
 
Doubtful. Section loss due to corrosion would have been identified |
loindelrio |
Aug-02-07 12:12 AM |
#274 |

20 minutes away |
Randomthought |
Aug-02-07 12:03 AM |
#270 |
 
Wow |
loindelrio |
Aug-02-07 12:16 AM |
#276 |

Y'know, my brother had just gotten back from a trip...
|
Snicker-snack |
Aug-02-07 12:05 AM |
#271 |
 
Glad to hear he's okay |
northernsoul |
Aug-02-07 12:09 AM |
#273 |

Christ, I was just a few miles away. |
Chichiri |
Aug-02-07 12:15 AM |
#275 |
 
I'm glad you're okay. |
lebkuchen |
Aug-02-07 12:52 AM |
#280 |

Traffic goes between mpls and st paul over the river blending with traffic from outer metro areas |
kikiek |
Aug-02-07 08:54 AM |
#324 |

Excerpt from Washington Post's coverage: |
Penndems |
Aug-02-07 12:39 AM |
#278 |
 
"but it has many poor fatigue details on the main truss" |
loindelrio |
Aug-02-07 12:52 AM |
#281 |
  
Didn't want to spend the $ |
lebkuchen |
Aug-02-07 12:57 AM |
#283 |
 
This is probably one of the most significant Civil Engineering events |
loindelrio |
Aug-02-07 01:05 AM |
#287 |
  
There's no sense of management in this type of risk |
lebkuchen |
Aug-02-07 01:12 AM |
#291 |
   
... |
PoconoPragmatist |
Aug-02-07 01:39 AM |
#299 |
  
Clint Eastwood had a good response to this in "Play Misty for Me" |
lebkuchen |
Aug-02-07 02:04 AM |
#303 |
  
ENGINEERS: U.S. INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS ESTIMATED AT $1.6 TRILLON |
Duppers |
Aug-02-07 06:54 AM |
#313 |
 
Governor Pawlenty's priorities: Build new stadium first, worry about highway infrastructure second |
Penndems |
Aug-02-07 10:31 AM |
#330 |
  
Wikipedia has him pegged as a VP runningmate w/McCain |
lebkuchen |
Aug-02-07 10:58 AM |
#331 |
 
Tim Pawlenty would do well to start looking for a job in the private sector |
Penndems |
Aug-02-07 11:08 AM |
#332 |
 
I have no doubt it will be covered up |
dflprincess |
Aug-02-07 01:37 PM |
#349 |
 
There's certain to be a lot of speculation about what caused the bridge to collapse, |
truthisfreedom |
Aug-02-07 12:53 AM |
#282 |

Where is the bridge? |
lebkuchen |
Aug-02-07 12:58 AM |
#284 |

Brainerd is too far away to be directly affected |
ButterflyBlood |
Aug-02-07 01:56 AM |
#302 |

Thanks for that input |
lebkuchen |
Aug-02-07 02:06 AM |
#304 |

Where are you going? |
ButterflyBlood |
Aug-02-07 02:45 AM |
#307 |

Flying into Minneapolis St. Paul and headed toward Brainerd |
lebkuchen |
Aug-02-07 02:56 AM |
#308 |

PS |
lebkuchen |
Aug-02-07 03:12 AM |
#309 |

If I were a conspiracy theorist I would begin to think that this would benefit... |
MilesColtrane |
Aug-02-07 01:21 AM |
#292 |
 
Mary Peters took Norm Mineta's place as Sec. of Transportation July 2006 |
lebkuchen |
Aug-02-07 01:29 AM |
#295 |

Exactly. |
PoconoPragmatist |
Aug-02-07 01:43 AM |
#300 |

well |
lebkuchen |
Aug-02-07 02:09 AM |
#305 |

Bush needs do a flyover,make the peasants & peeons feel better |
Algorem |
Aug-02-07 07:44 AM |
#315 |
 
Not exactly friendly territory |
goodhue |
Aug-02-07 08:43 AM |
#320 |
  
According to CNN, Bush is making a statement at 11:00 ET |
Penndems |
Aug-02-07 10:24 AM |
#329 |
 
Mrbush's statement...... |
uppityperson |
Aug-02-07 12:28 PM |
#340 |

20-30 people possibly still unaccounted for... |
bicentennial_baby |
Aug-02-07 08:43 AM |
#319 |

I-35 Bridge Collapse Proves 4/29 Sabatage |
AngryAmish |
Aug-02-07 08:45 AM |
#321 |
 
The fire started about 5 minutes after collapse according to eye witnesses |
goodhue |
Aug-02-07 08:47 AM |
#323 |
 
Take off the tinfoil hat |
RamboLiberal |
Aug-02-07 12:45 PM |
#344 |

No tinfoil hat needed |
dflprincess |
Aug-02-07 01:46 PM |
#351 |

I-35W Video captures bridge collapse |
jordi_fanclub |
Aug-02-07 09:16 AM |
#326 |
 
Thank you for the video. nt |
zanne |
Aug-02-07 10:21 AM |
#328 |
 
Video was taken from S looking N, showing W side of bridge |
minnesota_liberal |
Aug-03-07 09:36 AM |
#361 |

what's the deal with jackhammers said heard before collapse? |
Algorem |
Aug-02-07 11:57 AM |
#334 |
 
I also heard reports they were pile-driving at the bridge |
RamboLiberal |
Aug-02-07 12:03 PM |
#336 |
  
somebody better check all the old alkaida videos & make sure |
Algorem |
Aug-02-07 12:11 PM |
#337 |
  
The pile-driving reports are from national media confusing projects |
goodhue |
Aug-02-07 12:22 PM |
#339 |
  
Some speculate that the vibration from the work and a train that passed |
mzmolly |
Aug-02-07 01:29 PM |
#347 |
 
They have been jackhamerring away at the bridge for 6-7 weeks. |
goodhue |
Aug-02-07 12:18 PM |
#338 |

Tragic and shocking |
LeftishBrit |
Aug-02-07 12:48 PM |
#345 |

It's amazing that more people weren't killed |
slackmaster |
Aug-02-07 01:29 PM |
#346 |
 
About 30 are missing and many are still pinned under the wreckage. It may be |
mzmolly |
Aug-02-07 01:31 PM |
#348 |

Our nation crumbles around us as we pump hundreds of billions into wars. |
CANDO |
Aug-02-07 03:55 PM |
#354 |

It had a Federal structurally deficient rating - only rated 4 out of 9 |
BrightKnight |
Aug-02-07 04:45 PM |
#355 |

The sign.. |
noshenanigans |
Aug-02-07 05:48 PM |
#358 |