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Mon Jul-30-07 08:50 AM
Response to Reply #37 |
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Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 08:53 AM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
Oh gee, oh jay, oh frabjous day!
On edit, to Catgrrly: My point exactly. Companies like Tata exist to game the system. Nothing they promise should be expected to come to pass. Mrs. Clinton's hand-in-glove support of Tata and by Tata should be treated with all the suspicion it is due.
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| -Clinton woos the outsourcers that workers fear |
billyoc |
Jul-30-07 05:58 AM |
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This is not a good sign for the American worker. |
Lasher |
Jul-30-07 06:05 AM |
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It sounds like a publicity stunt. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jul-30-07 10:28 AM |
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And all entry jobs perhaps? |
Lasher |
Jul-30-07 12:02 PM |
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A drop in the bucket, however you look at it. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jul-30-07 12:08 PM |
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All the engineering jobs (high paying jobs) ... |
aggiesal |
Jul-30-07 07:22 PM |
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Wait a minute, what about L-1 visas? |
Lasher |
Jul-31-07 02:36 AM |
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But what about the American companies that funnel through Tata? |
Maribelle |
Jul-31-07 07:05 AM |
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Good point. I never considered that. ... |
aggiesal |
Jul-31-07 01:54 PM |
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L-1 visas are designed for multinational corporations to move their employees in |
Lasher |
Aug-01-07 11:53 AM |
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That's right. |
barb162 |
Jul-31-07 11:48 PM |
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maybe it's the skeleton crew in America |
Skittles |
Jul-31-07 04:06 AM |
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This has been happening more than you want to know. |
barb162 |
Jul-31-07 11:47 PM |
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Part of the whole DLC playbook |
bluestateguy |
Jul-30-07 06:20 AM |
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Is that an egregious assertion or do you have even one fact to back it? |
Maribelle |
Jul-30-07 06:37 AM |
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Here's a fun fact: |
billyoc |
Jul-30-07 06:46 AM |
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Oh please - - how come "youin the labor movement" ... |
Maribelle |
Jul-30-07 06:50 AM |
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Simply by opposing Clinton and NAFTA |
billyoc |
Jul-30-07 07:11 AM |
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If memory serves Bill clinton ushered in NAFTA the source imo of much of this countries |
ooglymoogly |
Jul-30-07 10:52 AM |
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Have you no sense of shame? |
CANDO |
Jul-30-07 10:04 AM |
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"to help eliminate the poverty that might be sucking up Buffalo" |
Maribelle |
Jul-31-07 06:55 AM |
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What more can Labor be doing, Maribelle? |
CANDO |
Jul-31-07 05:48 PM |
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no facts here, just opinion nt |
msongs |
Jul-30-07 08:36 AM |
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Egregious assertion? Try doing just a little research before you accuse somebody |
NotGivingUp |
Jul-30-07 06:55 AM |
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Perhaps you do not know what I mean by "Clinton's voting record supporting labor", yes? |
Maribelle |
Jul-30-07 07:04 AM |
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Majority of labor unions give Hillary extremely high marks. |
Maribelle |
Jul-30-07 07:53 AM |
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Permanent 'Free' Trade With China Is Supporting Labor? |
MannyGoldstein |
Jul-30-07 07:58 AM |
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Can you support the lie that "The DLC wants the party to abandon labor "? |
Maribelle |
Jul-30-07 08:00 AM |
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I Responded To Your Assertion re: Her "voting record supporting labor over the last seven years" |
MannyGoldstein |
Jul-30-07 08:15 AM |
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The DLC supported voting against CAFTA. |
Maribelle |
Jul-30-07 08:27 AM |
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No, the DLC supported CAFTA, of course. |
billyoc |
Jul-30-07 08:55 AM |
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Jul-30-07 09:53 AM |
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Jul-30-07 03:29 PM |
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Aug-25-07 03:25 AM |
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The DLC supported voting against CAFTA. |
Maribelle |
Aug-25-07 09:46 AM |
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From their Website |
Zodiak Ironfist |
Jul-30-07 10:49 AM |
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Clearly, it proves that the DLC wants the workers to surrender to the bosses |
Ken Burch |
Aug-24-07 07:55 PM |
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That's outrageous isn't it? |
barb162 |
Aug-01-07 12:10 AM |
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wow are you dreaming or what? |
8643 |
Jul-30-07 08:08 AM |
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NAFTA |
CANDO |
Jul-30-07 09:45 AM |
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Precisely why the cooperate press is shoving her |
ooglymoogly |
Jul-30-07 11:03 AM |
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With all due respect abandoning the Democratic Party is NOT the answer.. |
Virginia Dare |
Jul-30-07 01:00 PM |
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I never understood it either, but that was way before my time. |
CANDO |
Jul-31-07 07:01 AM |
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The difference between management |
ProudDad |
Jul-31-07 12:59 PM |
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Here's one |
ProudDad |
Jul-31-07 12:49 PM |
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Clinton has been "seen" talking labor rights one day and |
barb162 |
Jul-31-07 11:53 PM |
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Is it not a fact Hilary servedon the board of Wal-Mart, directing their vicious anti-union actions? |
gulfcoastliberal |
Aug-25-07 08:00 AM |
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I find it somewhat specious that the LAT implies Indian-American workers are not Americans. |
Maribelle |
Jul-30-07 06:47 AM |
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Where do you see that? Read this |
catgirl |
Jul-30-07 08:33 AM |
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NOW is there anyone left wondering if she is a Repuke Lite DINO stooge? |
youngdem |
Jul-30-07 06:51 AM |
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youngdem, you have about as good a chance at the nomination |
billyoc |
Jul-30-07 06:56 AM |
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The "partnership" is with a local university not Clinton. |
Maribelle |
Jul-30-07 07:00 AM |
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What's her program? |
ProudDad |
Jul-31-07 01:04 PM |
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No doubt in my mind. The illusion is over...nobody is working for us. n/t |
NotGivingUp |
Jul-30-07 07:01 AM |
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Errr wait a minute... |
redqueen |
Jul-31-07 12:28 PM |
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This is disgusting |
LiberalEsto |
Jul-30-07 07:06 AM |
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I would think some find it disgusting that Buffalo is in such dire condition |
Maribelle |
Jul-30-07 07:16 AM |
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My husband organized a union |
LiberalEsto |
Jul-30-07 07:24 AM |
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Jesus, where do I start??? |
ProudDad |
Jul-31-07 01:08 PM |
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Yes! Yesyesyesyesyes!!! |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Jul-30-07 08:26 AM |
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Thanks! |
LiberalEsto |
Jul-30-07 09:47 AM |
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My letter to Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D) |
LiberalEsto |
Jul-30-07 09:56 AM |
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Why can't she move to India? She'd be sacred over there. |
HypnoToad |
Jul-30-07 07:57 PM |
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Holy shit. |
HypnoToad |
Jul-30-07 08:10 PM |
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American workers, both organized and unorganized, have every |
Rydz777 |
Jul-30-07 07:16 AM |
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The game is good cop, bad cop...neither party is working for us. n/t |
NotGivingUp |
Jul-30-07 07:22 AM |
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???? |
atreides1 |
Jul-30-07 12:03 PM |
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no...when somebody is being questioned by the police, |
NotGivingUp |
Jul-30-07 12:25 PM |
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You're right. |
barb162 |
Aug-01-07 12:10 AM |
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Kucinich has said he will repeal NAFTA n/t |
antigop |
Aug-01-07 01:34 PM |
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I think that piece of crap should be repealed n/t |
barb162 |
Aug-01-07 01:41 PM |
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I agree -- but how many other candidates have said they will repeal NAFTA? |
antigop |
Aug-01-07 01:53 PM |
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It's like they just don't get it. |
barb162 |
Aug-02-07 01:40 PM |
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Both sides of her mouth on this one. |
HughBeaumont |
Jul-30-07 07:25 AM |
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Her & her husband hate the American worker. |
KillCapitalism |
Jul-30-07 07:25 AM |
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They're laughing in our faces. "Dumb fools. They actually think they have a democracy." n/t |
NotGivingUp |
Jul-30-07 07:29 AM |
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Her voting record over the last seven years |
Malva Zebrina |
Jul-30-07 07:31 AM |
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So, do we throw out the last seven years for all candidates? |
Maribelle |
Jul-30-07 07:57 AM |
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Yes, we do. With a guaranteed Bush veto protecting corporate donors, |
billyoc |
Jul-30-07 08:03 AM |
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So, you agree with the LAT implying that hyphenated Americans are not true Americans? |
Maribelle |
Jul-30-07 08:15 AM |
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So Tata will hire Indian-Americans |
MikeNearMcChord |
Jul-30-07 08:31 AM |
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Oh Please - Does Irish-American or Italian-American have anything to do with race? |
Maribelle |
Jul-30-07 08:39 AM |
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Xenophobia from the bottom of the deck is all they got. |
HughBeaumont |
Jul-30-07 08:40 AM |
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That is a non-sequiter. |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Jul-30-07 08:36 AM |
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LOL - - attacking me on all sides with your weak grasp of logic does not help .... |
Maribelle |
Jul-30-07 08:43 AM |
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Weak grasp of logic, indeed. |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Jul-30-07 08:48 AM |
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And you need to study up on what Hillary's support of such companies really means |
AngryOldDem |
Jul-30-07 09:55 AM |
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Welcome to my ignore list |
kgfnally |
Jul-30-07 01:42 PM |
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And A Good Dose Of Hubris. All Sound & Fury Signifying NOTHING |
Binka |
Jul-31-07 05:35 PM |
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That is certainly not the crux of this thread. |
billyoc |
Jul-30-07 08:50 AM |
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About a dozen jobs for Americans, and untold jobs for H1-B aliens |
IndianaGreen |
Jul-31-07 03:08 AM |
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Using the racism canard isn't going to work to shut down debate on this issue... |
Solon |
Jul-30-07 09:00 AM |
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That's one hell of a red herring |
knight_of_the_star |
Jul-30-07 01:16 PM |
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What???? |
ProudDad |
Jul-31-07 01:14 PM |
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Geez, you're really grasping at straws |
me b zola |
Aug-01-07 02:17 AM |
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Her current views are what's important |
catgirl |
Jul-30-07 08:39 AM |
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These are jobs in Buffalo. Buffalo is poverty ridden, and she is trying to help. |
Maribelle |
Jul-30-07 08:41 AM |
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10 jobs? |
sadiesworld |
Jul-30-07 08:48 AM |
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Well, it didn't work |
catgirl |
Jul-30-07 08:49 AM |
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And get this (seems Bill had a change of heart too) |
catgirl |
Jul-30-07 08:52 AM |
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10 new jobs! |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Jul-30-07 08:50 AM |
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Outsourcing may indeed create economic value... |
davekriss |
Aug-24-07 10:23 PM |
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My answer |
Malva Zebrina |
Jul-30-07 12:17 PM |
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Ohio's preeminent Indian-American candidate, Subodh Chandra, has endorsed Barak Obama |
TheBorealAvenger |
Jul-30-07 09:29 AM |
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I lost my job for this reason, and for this reason I cannot support her |
dave29 |
Jul-30-07 10:58 AM |
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COME ON! It's all peaches and sunshine! That rising tide's gonna lift that boat yet! |
HughBeaumont |
Jul-30-07 11:15 AM |
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Why not get Americans to fill in the gap? |
treestar |
Jul-30-07 11:07 AM |
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Because they are at an immediate competitive disadvantage, that's why... |
Solon |
Jul-30-07 11:18 AM |
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The only way to make the US competitive again is to alter the costof living and wages to match India |
HypnoToad |
Jul-30-07 08:08 PM |
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Right and they would demand as high wages as Americans |
treestar |
Jul-30-07 10:14 PM |
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That's incorrect, we would have to alter our cost of living to match the nation with the lowest... |
Solon |
Jul-31-07 12:18 AM |
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One of the dumbest argument I have ever seen... |
Solon |
Jul-31-07 12:42 AM |
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Then why is the media having a field day claiming the big rise of these countries' middle classes? |
HypnoToad |
Jul-31-07 03:58 PM |
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Because they are owned by multi-national corporations that benefit directly from globalization... |
Solon |
Aug-01-07 12:52 PM |
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So are you volunteering to work for $3 an hour??? |
ProudDad |
Jul-31-07 01:22 PM |
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I'm confused... |
HypnoToad |
Jul-31-07 04:07 PM |
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Yes, it's a crock of shit |
ProudDad |
Jul-31-07 09:12 PM |
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That could well be middle class in India |
treestar |
Aug-25-07 09:45 AM |
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Another weak argument from treestar, why am I not surprised? |
Solon |
Aug-25-07 10:22 AM |
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Go to where the market demands IT workers or get a job managing |
treestar |
Aug-25-07 10:50 AM |
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You have no clue what the fuck the IT industry is, do you? |
Solon |
Aug-25-07 11:08 AM |
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So then the companies do have to outsource to stay in business |
treestar |
Jul-30-07 10:16 PM |
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Their labor is worth more because of COST OF LIVING!!!! |
Solon |
Jul-31-07 12:23 AM |
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Odd how the global 'free' market is suddenly inescapable |
Lasher |
Jul-31-07 03:39 AM |
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The irony is that the standards of living aren't improving that much in third world nations either.. |
Solon |
Jul-31-07 04:25 AM |
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On our current path third world standards of living will improve slightly |
Lasher |
Jul-31-07 04:53 AM |
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Listen to yourself |
treestar |
Aug-25-07 09:39 AM |
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What the FUCK!!!!!! |
Solon |
Aug-25-07 10:01 AM |
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Fine, workers would be happy to compete in the "market" |
ProudDad |
Jul-31-07 01:26 PM |
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"Why not get Americans to fill in the gap?" |
OhioChick |
Jul-30-07 02:31 PM |
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Hillary is NOT for the American Worker |
lovuian |
Jul-30-07 11:19 AM |
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Those are my two big beefs with her as well, however.. |
Virginia Dare |
Jul-30-07 01:02 PM |
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sorry Hillary, I cannot and will not support you |
CountAllVotes |
Jul-30-07 12:21 PM |
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another Clinton administration = America's Death... and Kucinich |
stressfulreality |
Jul-31-07 11:25 AM |
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Oh, Dog |
ProudDad |
Jul-31-07 01:29 PM |
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you are implying that the Constitution is irrelevant? |
stressfulreality |
Jul-31-07 01:53 PM |
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Just take that stuff here |
ProudDad |
Jul-31-07 02:55 PM |
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"cold dead hands group" ???? what really scares me: |
stressfulreality |
Aug-02-07 01:18 PM |
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For a second there, I thought you wrote "where 'the cold dead heads group' hangs out" |
Ken Burch |
Aug-24-07 07:59 PM |
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BOO!!!! |
BigDDem |
Jul-30-07 01:11 PM |
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Hillary's Stance on Outsourcing |
OhioChick |
Jul-30-07 01:40 PM |
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Same Here. |
ChromeFoundry |
Jul-30-07 06:50 PM |
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Same here. |
HypnoToad |
Jul-30-07 08:01 PM |
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Most of those 200 workers will be insourced from India. |
Prisoner_Number_Six |
Jul-30-07 02:07 PM |
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No more Clintons! No more Bushes! No more taking it in our Tushes! |
AzDar |
Jul-30-07 02:49 PM |
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I hope she does not get the nom, I wont vote for GOP lite! |
8643 |
Jul-30-07 03:01 PM |
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Neither will I. |
HypnoToad |
Jul-30-07 08:04 PM |
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Wow. Was that 200 FTEs? 200 Whole Jobs? Wow. |
mcscajun |
Jul-30-07 07:35 PM |
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That's been known for some time. Oh, she's a tata too. |
HypnoToad |
Jul-30-07 07:56 PM |
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well she was a walmart lawyer for 6 years. Nothing news, and this is |
superconnected |
Jul-30-07 08:03 PM |
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Hillary........A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing |
OhioChick |
Jul-31-07 07:07 AM |
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Different Party, but More of the Same. |
HughBeaumont |
Jul-31-07 08:56 AM |
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kick |
sadiesworld |
Jul-31-07 11:22 AM |
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Is ANYONE shocked by this? |
redqueen |
Jul-31-07 11:46 AM |
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Yeah, Right... |
ProudDad |
Jul-31-07 12:37 PM |
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Here's what Workers used to do |
ProudDad |
Jul-31-07 02:53 PM |
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I was a big fan of hers until I saw how she's cozied up with these people. |
progressivebydesign |
Jul-31-07 09:47 PM |
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Hillary (R) Clinton? |
Algorem |
Jul-31-07 11:30 PM |
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This is a dealbreaker for me. It's a dealbreaker in the general election for me. (nt) |
w4rma |
Jul-31-07 11:45 PM |
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Thee and me. |
sadiesworld |
Aug-03-07 02:19 PM |
#147 |
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Another reason I shake my head against Hillary |
lovuian |
Aug-24-07 08:18 PM |
#150 |
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You Got That Right. n/t |
OhioChick |
Aug-24-07 09:10 PM |
#151 |
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The next time she says "I care about American workers"... |
Zhade |
Aug-25-07 03:22 AM |
#153 |
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Really? What does Hillary offer democrats? |
killbotfactory |
Aug-25-07 03:29 AM |
#155 |
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And people are still asking many of us why we oppose Hillary. |
Vidar |
Aug-25-07 05:11 AM |
#156 |
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Given her record, and the record of her husband, which she is leaning heavily on |
MadHound |
Aug-25-07 07:10 AM |
#157 |
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By their compromises shall ye know them. n/t |
Orsino |
Aug-25-07 07:41 AM |
#158 |
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