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Thu Jul-19-07 08:56 AM
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| 55. I'm sure millions of women have had babies without |
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knowing what a fetus is. Knowing medical terminology is not a prerequisite for parenthood.
I'd be more worried if she didn't know how she got pregnant but I think she probably does.
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| -Sex Ed for Kindergarteners 'Right Thing to Do,' Says Obama |
seriousstan |
Jul-19-07 12:11 AM |
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Ugh. I'd like to defend his dumbness, but I 'm too tired. nt. |
babylonsister |
Jul-19-07 12:13 AM |
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LOL. Sums it up nicely. Get some well-deserved rest. |
Vidar |
Jul-19-07 01:29 AM |
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Green, not dumb. |
aquart |
Jul-19-07 02:05 AM |
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Self delete |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-19-07 05:00 AM |
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It's not dumb, Sister |
proud2Blib |
Jul-19-07 08:43 AM |
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"Kindergarteners need to learn about good and bad touch and respecting each others' personal space." |
Zenlitened |
Jul-19-07 09:31 AM |
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I agree with you. Mine were certainly taught all that at home, at least. nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Jul-19-07 09:48 AM |
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Like putting condoms on bananas. You are exactly right |
pokercat999 |
Jul-19-07 04:23 PM |
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how bloody obvious should that be?? |
iverglas |
Jul-20-07 07:08 PM |
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Since when is DU conservative about sex? |
zanne |
Jul-19-07 10:28 AM |
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In case you didn't know, Hillary's view of sex ed, sexual health and abortion (safe, legal |
CTyankee |
Jul-19-07 03:19 PM |
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Uh.... |
sakabatou |
Jul-19-07 12:15 AM |
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Like, he's my first choice right now, but like... |
LoZoccolo |
Jul-19-07 12:16 AM |
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He'll be attacked for it |
silverojo |
Jul-19-07 01:03 AM |
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No, it is not! |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-19-07 04:52 AM |
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WRONG |
DangerDave921 |
Jul-19-07 08:25 AM |
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Read the blog entry... |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-19-07 08:46 AM |
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Uterus |
DangerDave921 |
Jul-19-07 09:50 AM |
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Yikes...don't tell my six year old she is slow! |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-19-07 11:33 AM |
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That's where "age appropriate" comes into play |
martymar64 |
Jul-21-07 10:50 AM |
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I agree. Teaching that a fetus is growing in a "tummy" rather than a "uterus" is dishonest. |
closeupready |
Jul-19-07 12:36 PM |
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And to be technically accurate, it should be penis and vulva, but some people |
CTyankee |
Jul-19-07 03:37 PM |
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Dishonest? |
DangerDave921 |
Jul-19-07 04:27 PM |
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Okay, but as long as we're clear that the very word "education" means to impart facts. |
closeupready |
Jul-19-07 04:46 PM |
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How? |
DangerDave921 |
Jul-20-07 07:16 AM |
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Not hardcore stuff, just playboy or penthouse. Did nothing for me. |
closeupready |
Jul-20-07 09:23 AM |
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Huh? Kindergarten kids are 4 to 5 years old? |
emmadoggy |
Jul-19-07 10:24 AM |
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Apologies |
DangerDave921 |
Jul-19-07 10:37 AM |
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Back in my day (early 1970s) you could start at four. |
susanna |
Jul-19-07 11:13 PM |
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I started kindy in the early 70's too. |
emmadoggy |
Jul-20-07 12:30 PM |
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No, I understand! |
susanna |
Jul-21-07 12:27 AM |
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See my post up thread about giving "too much" information to kids. |
CTyankee |
Jul-19-07 03:30 PM |
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Someone needs to relax |
youngdem |
Jul-19-07 05:51 AM |
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Well, damn... |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-19-07 06:11 AM |
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Porn |
DangerDave921 |
Jul-19-07 11:43 AM |
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I pity your experience |
youngdem |
Jul-19-07 12:20 PM |
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Lenny Bruce |
DangerDave921 |
Jul-19-07 12:27 PM |
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She'd rather you read Blueboy, I suppose:???? |
Perragrande |
Jul-19-07 04:48 PM |
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No it's not insane |
proud2Blib |
Jul-19-07 08:47 AM |
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What is insane or wrong about it? |
JerseygirlCT |
Jul-20-07 09:05 AM |
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He's being honest; OMG! |
zanne |
Jul-19-07 10:30 AM |
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It is bad strategy. |
LoZoccolo |
Jul-19-07 10:40 AM |
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Not only do k'garteners deserve honest answers to their sex questions... |
Unreconstructed Lib |
Jul-19-07 12:19 AM |
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i agree, and i think this is how Obama viewed it but it's tough to discuss |
JI7 |
Jul-19-07 12:21 AM |
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Good for him! |
proud2Blib |
Jul-19-07 12:22 AM |
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Amen! Fight back! |
bunkerbuster1 |
Jul-19-07 08:31 AM |
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What is it you are supposed to tell kindergartners |
murielm99 |
Jul-19-07 12:23 AM |
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Don't let real life experience interfere here. |
seriousstan |
Jul-19-07 12:28 AM |
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Well, bless your heart. |
murielm99 |
Jul-19-07 12:58 AM |
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My kids at that age were told that they grew from a seed in Mommy's tummy. |
Oregonian |
Jul-19-07 12:38 AM |
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Yeah, I thought fast on that one. |
murielm99 |
Jul-19-07 01:06 AM |
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My son asked me about men marrying men and women marrying women when he was very young. |
Oregonian |
Jul-19-07 01:10 PM |
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That's how mine are, too. They've asked questions; they've |
JerseygirlCT |
Jul-20-07 09:07 AM |
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Another good one we had here was |
murielm99 |
Jul-19-07 02:35 AM |
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That's What My Mom Told Me |
Crisco |
Jul-19-07 09:05 AM |
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Oh, wow. |
Oregonian |
Jul-19-07 01:07 PM |
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Fast thinking |
Big Pappa |
Jul-19-07 01:24 AM |
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Babies don't grow in mommy's tummy |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-19-07 04:54 AM |
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Gee, thanks for the education. |
murielm99 |
Jul-19-07 05:20 PM |
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Well a tummy encompasses more than the stomach |
darboy |
Jul-20-07 06:16 AM |
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LMAO |
DangerDave921 |
Jul-19-07 04:29 PM |
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Hear Hear! |
LeighAnn |
Jul-21-07 02:00 AM |
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ok, so what exactly is age appropriate for kindergartners? |
WindRavenX |
Jul-19-07 12:52 AM |
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it was 6th grade for me n/t |
cutlassmama |
Jul-19-07 01:26 AM |
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Discussing their bodies without shame... |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-19-07 04:56 AM |
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to me, that isn't even sex ed |
WindRavenX |
Jul-19-07 01:44 PM |
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See post #26 |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-19-07 05:02 AM |
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Is he TRYING to make Hillary our next President? |
silverojo |
Jul-19-07 12:59 AM |
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Yes. Or so say my conservative co-workers. |
lvx35 |
Jul-19-07 01:21 AM |
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Are you serious? |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-19-07 04:58 AM |
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Is he TRYING to make Hillary our next President? |
silverojo |
Jul-19-07 01:02 AM |
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He could survive the sex stuff, but they'll hate him for saying it should be science based. |
Bucky |
Jul-19-07 01:17 AM |
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Argh.When will Dems learn to automatically REFRAME rightwingnuts' statements?? |
Hekate |
Jul-19-07 01:24 AM |
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Complete mischaracterization of the situation |
Laughlandia |
Jul-19-07 02:37 AM |
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Indeed. The outcry from some here is amazing |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-19-07 04:59 AM |
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My only disagreement w/ the Obamas is in even allowing the phrase to proceed w/o vigorous challenge |
Hekate |
Jul-19-07 12:25 PM |
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Considering the fact that many parents... |
w13rd0 |
Jul-19-07 03:12 AM |
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especially with the use of the internet these days |
JI7 |
Jul-19-07 04:51 AM |
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My wife has a coworker who's pregnant, and didn't know what a fetus was. |
killbotfactory |
Jul-19-07 06:12 AM |
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I'm sure millions of women have had babies without |
DemBones DemBones |
Jul-19-07 08:56 AM |
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Bravo! |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-19-07 04:46 AM |
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so true -- teach children of all ages to own their bodies because it's the right/safe |
nashville_brook |
Jul-19-07 08:30 AM |
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Here's the Problem |
Crisco |
Jul-19-07 09:48 AM |
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See, there is the problem |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-19-07 11:39 AM |
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Once the concepts of sexual act and the determining pattern for them enters the equation... |
JVS |
Jul-19-07 05:19 PM |
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That's a stretch |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-19-07 05:57 PM |
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It Is Intrinsically a Moral Issue |
Crisco |
Jul-19-07 09:37 PM |
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You are all over the place |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-19-07 10:22 PM |
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They Are Not *Simple* Body Parts |
Crisco |
Jul-20-07 08:35 AM |
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Very bad moment... can already imagine the GOP attack ads |
JCMach1 |
Jul-19-07 06:02 AM |
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Could it be something as simple as "Good touch, Bad touch"? |
woodsprite |
Jul-19-07 07:42 AM |
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Yeah. |
bunkerbuster1 |
Jul-19-07 08:34 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jul-19-07 07:58 AM |
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ABC NEWS is taking Obama's words out of context. |
Connie_Corleone |
Jul-19-07 08:11 AM |
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Obama is totaly right. |
Odin2005 |
Jul-19-07 08:14 AM |
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After everything the press has done, even people on DU still believe |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jul-19-07 08:34 AM |
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well...you can scratch obama's name off the ballot. |
QuestionAll |
Jul-19-07 08:37 AM |
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The headline is wrong. Obama never said this. |
Connie_Corleone |
Jul-19-07 08:41 AM |
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yes, he did. |
QuestionAll |
Jul-19-07 08:45 AM |
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Then how come later in the article it says that Obama does NOT support it? |
Connie_Corleone |
Jul-19-07 08:50 AM |
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do you know what the term "out of context" means? |
QuestionAll |
Jul-19-07 08:58 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-19-07 09:12 AM |
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If you're not going to answer the question, don't respond to my posts. |
Connie_Corleone |
Jul-19-07 10:15 AM |
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Yes, for god's sake we don't need an intelligent candidate |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-19-07 09:10 AM |
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pretty much. |
QuestionAll |
Jul-19-07 09:38 AM |
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He's going to have a lot of 'splaining to do. I think |
DemBones DemBones |
Jul-19-07 09:30 AM |
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Of course they should get age appropriate information |
treestar |
Jul-19-07 09:43 AM |
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It was an unwise statement, IMO. |
robcon |
Jul-19-07 09:43 AM |
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I thinks he's totally right...but it wont play well in Puritan America. |
Forkboy |
Jul-19-07 09:56 AM |
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Retired kindergarten teacher here - Obama is right |
cmd |
Jul-19-07 10:17 AM |
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Thank you! |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-19-07 11:48 AM |
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So Obama supports teaching kindergarteners about inappropriate touching. Stan opposes that. |
denverbill |
Jul-19-07 10:19 AM |
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Looks like a media hit piece |
Endangered Specie |
Jul-19-07 10:23 AM |
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Obama's response to ABC News blog |
Connie_Corleone |
Jul-19-07 10:37 AM |
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That's kinda what I figured he meant... |
Hobarticus |
Jul-19-07 10:47 AM |
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This works for him only if he follows up now to say... |
rcdean |
Jul-19-07 10:44 AM |
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Isn't Larry Flynt on a grammer school speaking tour right now? |
Kablooie |
Jul-19-07 10:47 AM |
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Well, I agree with Obama |
Taverner |
Jul-19-07 10:47 AM |
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As the daughter of a sex therapist, I'd have to say that Obama is |
Lorien |
Jul-19-07 12:57 PM |
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The headline is NOT in obamas favor and I am still NOT sure I want him |
superconnected |
Jul-19-07 01:49 PM |
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It would also empower children to speak out against abuse. |
David Zephyr |
Jul-19-07 03:37 PM |
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If children show curiosity honesty is best but other than that this is stupid. |
DuaneBidoux |
Jul-19-07 04:17 PM |
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Bad phrasing. This will not do good things for him. |
JVS |
Jul-19-07 05:10 PM |
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This is a smart move by him |
maximusveritas |
Jul-19-07 05:29 PM |
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Kids need to be aware of what is right and what is wrong |
Ethelk2044 |
Jul-19-07 06:33 PM |
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schools are supposed to teach reading, writing, & arithmetic. |
NotGivingUp |
Jul-19-07 09:32 PM |
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Isn't this a key tool in protecting our children from sexual predation? |
LeviathanCrumbling |
Jul-19-07 11:01 PM |
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Children 4 years to 5 years of age and sex ed? |
Okiegal123 |
Jul-20-07 09:04 AM |
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You need to read some more - even through this thread |
JerseygirlCT |
Jul-20-07 09:09 AM |
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... |
Okiegal123 |
Jul-20-07 09:33 AM |
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Well, the trick is the same one we have with so much else |
JerseygirlCT |
Jul-20-07 01:13 PM |
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You are right... |
Okiegal123 |
Jul-20-07 04:26 PM |
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Great idea Barack! |
BigDDem |
Jul-20-07 09:22 AM |
#124 |
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