| 47. You sound just like a Republican during the FDR administration. |
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What makes Chavez's political enemies in Venezuela preferable to Chavez?
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| -Chavez warns of resistance war with U.S. |
cal04 |
Jun-25-07 02:44 AM |
#0 |
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I wonder how many here will condemn him for exploiting his troops for a photo op |
Dark |
Jun-25-07 02:52 AM |
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How is a socialist fatherland "fascistic?" |
David__77 |
Jun-25-07 02:54 AM |
#2 |
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The closer you come to either extreme, the more the extremes become one another. |
Dark |
Jun-25-07 03:13 AM |
#4 |
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I couldn't have said it better myself.... |
WCGreen |
Jun-25-07 04:01 AM |
#5 |
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Indeed, I think many of us had the same opinion of him, but I knew it wasn't going to end well... |
originalpckelly |
Jun-25-07 09:44 AM |
#21 |
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You "knew it wasn't going to end well"? "It" has "ended," has it? |
Peace Patriot |
Jun-25-07 11:09 AM |
#28 |
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Bravo!....n/t |
unkachuck |
Jun-25-07 08:59 PM |
#168 |
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So it doesn't matter that he's now democratically elected and the |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 12:54 PM |
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I'm sorry, I forgot he went through the putsch reform program, he's a changed man. |
originalpckelly |
Jun-25-07 02:23 PM |
#62 |
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Let's have a look at that source you "looked up" on the coup attempt. |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-25-07 09:05 PM |
#169 |
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Exactly. It's not a straight line, but a circle. |
melody |
Jun-25-07 05:45 AM |
#11 |
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In Chavez's case, there really is "someone out there big and bad" who wants to get him. |
leveymg |
Jun-25-07 06:53 AM |
#13 |
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John Perkins (Economic Hitman) speculates that we'd already be |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-25-07 01:08 PM |
#34 |
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I agree with John about that. |
leveymg |
Jun-26-07 06:40 AM |
#187 |
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And what is your opinion of Ghandi? |
Toots |
Jun-25-07 06:39 PM |
#161 |
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Um ... wasn't Ghandi assassinated? |
Dark |
Jun-25-07 09:18 PM |
#170 |
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Even when there actually is someone out there big and bad who wants to get you? |
eridani |
Jun-25-07 10:09 PM |
#171 |
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"A left jack boot up your ass feels no better than a right jack boot up your ass" |
slackmaster |
Jun-29-07 03:17 AM |
#234 |
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Yeah, I'm sorry, but this guy is starting to act like a nationalist. |
originalpckelly |
Jun-25-07 09:37 AM |
#20 |
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Exactly. Why can't he just be a corporate globalist? You know, the way |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 01:00 PM |
#32 |
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Have you ever considered that just maybe it's possible to not like Chavez... |
originalpckelly |
Jun-25-07 02:24 PM |
#64 |
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It's not that you don't like Chavez. |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 02:59 PM |
#81 |
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Duh!!! (n/t) |
ProudDad |
Jun-25-07 02:12 PM |
#57 |
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Is he nuttier than Uribe of Columbia? |
eridani |
Jun-25-07 10:18 PM |
#172 |
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well, because, the people can vote to remove him from office if they want to. |
otherlander |
Jun-26-07 06:08 PM |
#210 |
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Look at the full name of the Nazi party |
knight_of_the_star |
Jun-27-07 02:39 PM |
#218 |
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ThatS been tried here before. Nazis were not Socialists. |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-27-07 04:47 PM |
#219 |
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Depends on how far left you go |
knight_of_the_star |
Jun-29-07 02:31 AM |
#232 |
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Informed opinions are legitimate. Take time to have a grasp of the subject. n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-29-07 02:48 AM |
#233 |
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Jun-29-07 12:18 PM |
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And of course we should just take everything the nazis say at face value right? |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-28-07 11:42 AM |
#230 |
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Just pointing out how Fatherland and Socialism can be in the same place |
knight_of_the_star |
Jun-29-07 02:29 AM |
#231 |
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The Nazis claimed a lot of things, but I don't believe everything they claimed |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-29-07 11:24 AM |
#235 |
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Except he's moving in a direction that's very dangerous |
knight_of_the_star |
Jun-29-07 12:20 PM |
#237 |
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Can you name me another country which would not have shut down a station advocating a violent coup? |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-29-07 01:51 PM |
#238 |
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Scaremongering? |
TOJ |
Jun-25-07 08:39 AM |
#15 |
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There's a big difference in what you're arguing |
NeedleCast |
Jun-25-07 09:58 AM |
#23 |
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That's funny. |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 01:02 PM |
#33 |
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sad, some of these responses... |
redqueen |
Jun-25-07 03:16 PM |
#91 |
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Bugga bugga bugga!!!!! |
devilgrrl |
Jun-25-07 02:06 PM |
#53 |
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Sorry Hugo. |
MilesColtrane |
Jun-25-07 02:57 AM |
#3 |
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I realize fearmongering is bad |
flobee1 |
Jun-25-07 04:24 AM |
#7 |
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Counting down... |
Prophet 451 |
Jun-25-07 04:16 AM |
#6 |
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I dont think Bush would be that retarded |
flobee1 |
Jun-25-07 04:32 AM |
#8 |
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I have a horrible feeling he would |
Prophet 451 |
Jun-25-07 01:32 PM |
#41 |
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The bushies think that they can |
ProudDad |
Jun-25-07 02:11 PM |
#56 |
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True, about the "camps" at DU. But one camp is well-informed, and the other |
Peace Patriot |
Jun-25-07 08:33 AM |
#14 |
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Dude, it wasn't an attempt to marginalise you |
Prophet 451 |
Jun-25-07 01:31 PM |
#40 |
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Excellent post. That sums up the situation here nicely. |
Vidar |
Jun-25-07 04:24 PM |
#130 |
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When were you most recently in Venezuela? n/t |
Tyrone Slothrop |
Jun-26-07 10:55 AM |
#190 |
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Thanks Peace Patriot |
plasticsundance |
Jun-26-07 03:30 PM |
#201 |
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overly simplistic |
redqueen |
Jun-25-07 03:18 PM |
#92 |
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Of course it's overly simplistic |
Prophet 451 |
Jun-25-07 04:37 PM |
#142 |
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my point is that just as with the media |
redqueen |
Jun-25-07 05:30 PM |
#156 |
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Sure |
Prophet 451 |
Jun-25-07 05:35 PM |
#158 |
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I don't believe Chavez walks on water, and have spent time |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-26-07 02:51 PM |
#200 |
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It’s always far better to give your opinion on situations when you actually |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-25-07 05:02 AM |
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Adding one more: US ambassador warned Vene. Vice-Pres. Rangel of possible assassination attempt.... |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-25-07 05:15 AM |
#10 |
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Would you like to explain: |
originalpckelly |
Jun-25-07 09:48 AM |
#22 |
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Ah, I'm reminded of the famous rallying cry, "Give me liberty or give me compromise!" |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-25-07 03:13 PM |
#89 |
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Maybe, in 30 Years, the CIA Murderers Will Be Forced To Disclose their Current......... |
Preening Fop |
Jun-25-07 06:44 AM |
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I do get |
Mojorabbit |
Jun-25-07 09:07 AM |
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Jun-25-07 09:24 AM |
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self-delete |
Moochy |
Jun-25-07 11:54 PM |
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AP has nothing better to do? Where are their articles on the mass graves in Colombia, |
Peace Patriot |
Jun-25-07 09:31 AM |
#18 |
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"Fatherland" when the fuck did he become a fucking Nazi? |
originalpckelly |
Jun-25-07 09:33 AM |
#19 |
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Oh, yeah, right, Originalpckelly, you haven't been calling Chavez a "dictator" |
Peace Patriot |
Jun-25-07 10:05 AM |
#24 |
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Typical straw man argument |
NeedleCast |
Jun-25-07 11:01 AM |
#25 |
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Before, everything was procedural, now it is becoming more than that. |
originalpckelly |
Jun-25-07 11:13 AM |
#30 |
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Whipping up "nationalist" sentiments? |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 01:21 PM |
#37 |
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if there is a 'true military threat' |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 01:31 PM |
#39 |
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What? Open a history book sometime if you think the USA is not a threat |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 01:54 PM |
#46 |
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"military' |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 02:00 PM |
#50 |
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As I said, just open any history book. n/t |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 02:38 PM |
#76 |
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can you recommend a history book |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 03:12 PM |
#87 |
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What Latin American "strongmen" in the past have acted like Chavez? |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 03:30 PM |
#98 |
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why, not a single one! |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 03:39 PM |
#103 |
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What "rogues gallery" of history are you referring to? |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 03:47 PM |
#108 |
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Chavez didn't change the constitution of Venezuela |
eridani |
Jun-25-07 10:36 PM |
#174 |
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oh, well in that case |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 11:18 PM |
#179 |
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By the Venezuelan constitution, any government in office has the power |
eridani |
Jun-26-07 12:37 AM |
#185 |
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sorry to correct such a noted scholar |
northzax |
Jun-26-07 11:00 AM |
#191 |
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Would you be good enough to provide a source for your claim |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-26-07 11:58 AM |
#192 |
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But reaction to the 1989 event is the foundation of his support n/t |
eridani |
Jun-26-07 01:30 PM |
#197 |
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Actually he was arrested in 1989 on suspicion of plotting a coup |
pschoeb |
Jun-28-07 10:54 AM |
#229 |
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Spend some time learning about American policy and history in Latin America. |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-25-07 03:30 PM |
#99 |
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ok, fine, you are right |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 04:04 PM |
#117 |
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What an odd post! First, are you saying there IS no threat? |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-25-07 06:37 PM |
#160 |
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the fact that he rules by decree? |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 01:28 PM |
#38 |
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"he is creating a hyper-militarized state" |
ProudDad |
Jun-25-07 02:22 PM |
#61 |
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oh right, you got me |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 03:09 PM |
#86 |
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And what's a 3000% difference in military spending per capita when |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 03:19 PM |
#93 |
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the words 'Juan Peron' come to mind |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 03:36 PM |
#102 |
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If Castro and Peron are your bogeymen, color me less than |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 03:49 PM |
#110 |
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if Castro and Peron are your heros |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 04:08 PM |
#120 |
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Who said they were my heroes? |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 04:22 PM |
#129 |
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Chavez was the victim of a coup |
ProudDad |
Jun-25-07 10:55 PM |
#177 |
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I doubt that they had English on their banners. |
roody |
Jun-25-07 11:06 AM |
#26 |
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Who came up with "Homeland Security"? |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 01:15 PM |
#36 |
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I don't see any difference, and I think they're both designed to stir nationalist feelings. |
originalpckelly |
Jun-25-07 02:29 PM |
#67 |
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And how many Democrats voted for "Homeland Security"? |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 02:50 PM |
#79 |
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I know you already made up your mind long ago |
Flanker |
Jun-25-07 01:58 PM |
#48 |
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He's a nazi in every Associated Press article... |
devilgrrl |
Jun-25-07 02:09 PM |
#55 |
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Well, it's supposedly a banner, which I can't find a single AP photo of |
pschoeb |
Jun-25-07 06:33 PM |
#159 |
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I think it is time to plan a DU meetup in Venezuela. eom |
roody |
Jun-25-07 11:09 AM |
#27 |
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I'd love that! Dying to see Caracas |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-25-07 01:11 PM |
#35 |
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I would have thought the meeting would be held here |
Bacchus39 |
Jun-25-07 01:35 PM |
#42 |
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Why not? Then, I'd get to see schools where children are fed |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-25-07 01:38 PM |
#43 |
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well, its all there for you to see. |
Bacchus39 |
Jun-25-07 01:49 PM |
#45 |
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False comparison. Really, Bacchus, you can do better. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-25-07 02:04 PM |
#52 |
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you're kidding or you' ve never been there |
Bacchus39 |
Jun-25-07 02:19 PM |
#58 |
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But the current policy in Caracas and in Sao Paolo |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-25-07 02:22 PM |
#60 |
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what is the current policy? drugs and crime |
Bacchus39 |
Jun-25-07 02:36 PM |
#72 |
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Really? |
ProudDad |
Jun-25-07 02:24 PM |
#63 |
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I'm trying to be nice. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-25-07 02:34 PM |
#71 |
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Worth a try. |
ProudDad |
Jun-25-07 10:58 PM |
#178 |
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Well there are tours of these areas |
Flanker |
Jun-25-07 02:08 PM |
#54 |
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aprovecha!! |
Bacchus39 |
Jun-25-07 02:20 PM |
#59 |
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Let's do our own. |
roody |
Jun-25-07 08:03 PM |
#164 |
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Daly City, CA -- just outside of San Francisco |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 01:59 PM |
#49 |
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never been there, been to Caracas several times though |
Bacchus39 |
Jun-25-07 02:01 PM |
#51 |
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Yes |
ProudDad |
Jun-25-07 02:25 PM |
#65 |
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maybe a meetup in Daly City is more appropriate then |
Bacchus39 |
Jun-25-07 02:37 PM |
#74 |
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Joking, yes? |
junior college |
Jun-26-07 08:17 PM |
#214 |
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Was when my family lived there. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-25-07 02:32 PM |
#69 |
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Was there abject poverty in Venzuela before Chavez? |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 02:36 PM |
#73 |
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absolutely, and there still is |
Bacchus39 |
Jun-25-07 02:37 PM |
#75 |
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What makes Chavez's political enemies in Venezuela preferable |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 02:41 PM |
#77 |
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political enemies??? how about an alternative to authoritarianism |
Bacchus39 |
Jun-25-07 02:44 PM |
#78 |
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So fighting poverty is OK, just as long as it's not "heavy handed"? |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 02:52 PM |
#80 |
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fighting poverty is fine |
Bacchus39 |
Jun-25-07 03:01 PM |
#83 |
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Why is it the same for Chavez? |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 03:08 PM |
#85 |
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I don't get all the adoration |
Bacchus39 |
Jun-25-07 03:31 PM |
#100 |
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Bush has stacked the Supreme Court, Bush rules by signing statements, |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 03:59 PM |
#113 |
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but obviously you must be ok with that |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 04:10 PM |
#121 |
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What I'm saying is, don't you have anything better to do than get up |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 04:16 PM |
#126 |
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he doesn't need to, now does he? |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 04:18 PM |
#127 |
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At least he asked the legislature first. |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 04:24 PM |
#131 |
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again, if all you have is a 'slightly better than Bush' |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 04:28 PM |
#135 |
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What I have is that his methods of consolidating power are slightly |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 04:32 PM |
#137 |
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consolidating power in one person is always troublesome |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 04:33 PM |
#139 |
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It depends on how much power the executive already has. |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 04:43 PM |
#144 |
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ok, that's sensible (who knew, after all this we are still capable of sense!) |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 04:56 PM |
#149 |
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Well, in that sense populist leaders like Chavez typically end up becoming |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 05:10 PM |
#154 |
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all of our domestic email and phone calls monitored |
Bacchus39 |
Jun-25-07 04:10 PM |
#122 |
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Is Padilla still being held as an enemy combatant or not? |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 04:19 PM |
#128 |
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not really, besides the government could simply monitor |
Bacchus39 |
Jun-25-07 04:27 PM |
#134 |
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When was Padilla's trial? Do you even know what habeas corpus means? |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 04:30 PM |
#136 |
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I don't know, again you are so interested in |
Bacchus39 |
Jun-25-07 04:36 PM |
#141 |
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Your posts speak for themselves. |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 04:47 PM |
#145 |
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Your link is broken. I spent some years there, 4-8 and am curious. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-25-07 02:31 PM |
#68 |
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You are attempting to pull a fast one on DU'ers by pretending this level of poverty |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-25-07 04:01 PM |
#115 |
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The M$M will relabel it an "insurgency" |
treestar |
Jun-25-07 11:11 AM |
#29 |
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Chavez has no intention of EVER stepping down. |
Bo |
Jun-25-07 01:46 PM |
#44 |
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You sound just like a Republican during the FDR administration. |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 01:55 PM |
#47 |
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gee, seems like at the time |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 03:15 PM |
#90 |
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Learn some history, please! |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 03:27 PM |
#96 |
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then talk about the right thing |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 03:43 PM |
#105 |
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It happens to be the right of the Venezuelan people to change their own constitution |
eridani |
Jun-25-07 10:45 PM |
#175 |
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Nope your history is faulty |
ProudDad |
Jun-25-07 11:20 PM |
#180 |
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Do you have any proof |
ProudDad |
Jun-25-07 02:26 PM |
#66 |
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the burden of proof, historically |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 03:19 PM |
#94 |
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He was elected in December 1988, inaugurated February 2, 1999. |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-25-07 03:42 PM |
#104 |
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as you no doubt know |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 03:58 PM |
#112 |
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He did not serve as Venzuela's President during 1998. How is that hard to grasp? |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-25-07 04:03 PM |
#116 |
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he was, in fact elected in 1998, yes? |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 04:07 PM |
#118 |
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He didn't take office until February 2, 1999. That's not my fact, it's THE fact. n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-25-07 04:54 PM |
#147 |
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and US presidents don't take office until January of the next year |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 05:02 PM |
#153 |
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Wow, a whole year added, and term limits added as well |
pschoeb |
Jun-25-07 07:41 PM |
#162 |
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Why do you think he won't? n/t |
eridani |
Jun-25-07 10:46 PM |
#176 |
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Do you have any other predictions you'd like to share |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-25-07 02:33 PM |
#70 |
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SU EXCELLENCIA will be there until the revolution succeeds. lol |
Bo |
Jun-25-07 04:01 PM |
#114 |
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Yep. Much better to stop trying and resign yourself to a highly stratified |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 04:12 PM |
#124 |
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I LOVE IT that you can see into the future. You are AMAZING! |
PassingFair |
Jun-26-07 05:04 PM |
#206 |
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We are honored to have one of them amungus! They're so evolved. n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-26-07 05:18 PM |
#208 |
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Jun-25-07 03:00 PM |
#82 |
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No, see, it's not the left they have a problem with. |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 03:03 PM |
#84 |
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bingo. n/t |
redqueen |
Jun-25-07 03:20 PM |
#95 |
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aw, that's cute |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 03:27 PM |
#97 |
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I often have the same question of Castro and Chavez supporters frankly |
Bacchus39 |
Jun-25-07 03:33 PM |
#101 |
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Once again, all of your arguments were used by Republicans against FDR. |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 03:43 PM |
#106 |
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terrible or benevolent dictator is a point of opinion |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 03:47 PM |
#107 |
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What about it? How was this different from Poppy & Sons or Bill & Hill? |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 04:08 PM |
#119 |
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ahh, speaking of GOP arguements |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 04:11 PM |
#123 |
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You didn't answer my question. How is what Peron did any different from |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 04:25 PM |
#132 |
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you mean when he was ineligible to run |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 04:32 PM |
#138 |
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Yes, Poppy has nothing to do with BushCo. |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 04:35 PM |
#140 |
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are you sure you are? |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 04:42 PM |
#143 |
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Yeah, right! |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 04:49 PM |
#146 |
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ah, another good revolutionary point |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 04:57 PM |
#150 |
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Is it OK if I just find it a bit gullible of someone to believe that the |
mhatrw |
Jun-25-07 05:16 PM |
#155 |
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You should really find out what the Bolivarian Revolution is about |
ProudDad |
Jun-25-07 11:22 PM |
#181 |
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It wasn't too long ago we had a visitor from the right-wing message board, |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-25-07 03:47 PM |
#109 |
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but the process isn't important |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 04:14 PM |
#125 |
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But you don't make sense, do you? Most of us know what Pinochet did. n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-25-07 04:55 PM |
#148 |
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shouldn't matter |
northzax |
Jun-25-07 05:01 PM |
#152 |
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Who was it above that was talking about |
Andrushka |
Jun-25-07 11:45 PM |
#182 |
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Instead of pulling your "facts" from the same dark place |
ProudDad |
Jun-27-07 09:03 PM |
#228 |
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No, Chavez non-fans are Democrats because...they're Americans who support the Democratic party |
brentspeak |
Jun-25-07 08:10 PM |
#166 |
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Ooooh! The Associated Press said it - it must be TRUE!!!!!!! |
devilgrrl |
Jun-25-07 03:13 PM |
#88 |
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Yeah. Whatever they say about a leader the right-wing hates is true. |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-25-07 03:49 PM |
#111 |
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I seem to remember one Alberto Fujimori, Pres.of Peru |
Bo |
Jun-25-07 04:26 PM |
#133 |
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Last week he claimed he just may be considering running for office in Japan! |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-25-07 04:58 PM |
#151 |
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"psychological warfare, media warfare, political warfare, economic warfare."" |
ohio2007 |
Jun-25-07 05:32 PM |
#157 |
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"Dressed in olive green fatigues and a red beret"... Suprised he didn't wear a |
Endangered Specie |
Jun-25-07 07:50 PM |
#163 |
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Chavez really was a soldier, not just for dress up. |
roody |
Jun-25-07 08:06 PM |
#165 |
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He's the real thing. |
ozone_man |
Jun-25-07 08:50 PM |
#167 |
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Chavez to head to Russia, Belarus, Iran, in latest bid to heckle US |
ohio2007 |
Jun-25-07 10:30 PM |
#173 |
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There's a lot of the showman in Chavez. |
Matilda |
Jun-26-07 12:24 AM |
#184 |
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So uh |
sanskritwarrior |
Jun-26-07 12:56 AM |
#186 |
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When do we get to the bit about having to pre-emptively attack? |
Nihil |
Jun-26-07 07:41 AM |
#188 |
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I'm quaking in my boots at the Venezuelan threat. |
High Plains |
Jun-26-07 10:42 AM |
#189 |
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OHMYGOD, his missiles will be able to go almost 300 km!!! |
mhatrw |
Jun-27-07 02:30 PM |
#217 |
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Mission Accomplished was bad but "Fatherland, Socialism, or Death! We will triumph!"is good? |
rinsd |
Jun-26-07 12:14 PM |
#193 |
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How about "Give me liberty or give me death?" How is that wildly different? |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-26-07 12:26 PM |
#194 |
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You do know what the word Patriot actually means, don't you? |
pschoeb |
Jun-26-07 01:11 PM |
#195 |
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I have no problem with the word Fatherland. |
rinsd |
Jun-26-07 01:24 PM |
#196 |
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Where did he say anything about impending real war. |
pschoeb |
Jun-26-07 02:36 PM |
#198 |
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"I don't see any overt "militarism"," |
rinsd |
Jun-26-07 02:40 PM |
#199 |
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Patriotic slogans are the norm on independance days/ memorial day |
pschoeb |
Jun-26-07 03:35 PM |
#202 |
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Clinton & Esienhower in jackets is the best you got? |
rinsd |
Jun-26-07 03:52 PM |
#203 |
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Actually Washington did,,and actually personally commanded troops against |
pschoeb |
Jun-26-07 04:56 PM |
#205 |
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In battle is quite a different thing than an independence day celebration |
rinsd |
Jun-26-07 06:08 PM |
#211 |
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Yeah, It would have been better if Washington wore his uniform on independence day |
pschoeb |
Jun-26-07 07:31 PM |
#213 |
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I'm waiting for the concern over Filipe Claderon, of Mexico |
pschoeb |
Jun-26-07 05:56 PM |
#209 |
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You have a picture of this? Because I couldn't find one. |
rinsd |
Jun-27-07 04:53 PM |
#220 |
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That country is obligated to protect itself. It's not up to you to determine whether or not there's |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-27-07 05:34 PM |
#221 |
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Here you go |
pschoeb |
Jun-27-07 06:23 PM |
#222 |
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So your excuse for Chavez is that Calderon and Bush did it too. |
rinsd |
Jun-27-07 06:41 PM |
#223 |
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Actually I never said Calderon wearing a uniform was bad |
pschoeb |
Jun-27-07 07:39 PM |
#224 |
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So Calderón opted for the five star General's chapeau! Excellent choice! |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-27-07 08:29 PM |
#226 |
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Other countries seem to be in error in not consulting your whim on how to conduct their business. |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-26-07 04:46 PM |
#204 |
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No, try this: |
PassingFair |
Jun-26-07 05:08 PM |
#207 |
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Just found a fascinating little video, around 8 minutes long, on the coup attempt |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-26-07 06:13 PM |
#212 |
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He has seen what we have done in the past |
gorbal |
Jun-27-07 09:46 AM |
#215 |
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Sounds like somebody told him about Haiti? |
MetaTrope |
Jun-27-07 11:42 AM |
#216 |
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I really don't understand why Chavez still thinks Bush will attack him |
OldschoolDem |
Jun-27-07 08:17 PM |
#225 |
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Spend more time reading about the subject. You need to get some background. |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-27-07 08:32 PM |
#227 |