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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 06:44 AM
Response to Reply #36
48. How serious were these calls?
Were these serious statements by serious leadership people, and is there any evidence that hamas has done anything to follow them up. Or are they similar in nature to, say, rhetorical calls made by Bush for the globeal spread of democracy?

I ask because one of the things I'm trying to understand is which jihadist groups actually advocate attacks on the US at home or abroad.

The media and the Bushites lump them all together, of course, but far as I can tell, beyond al Qaeda, jihadists seem to be mostly focussed on attacking Israel and/or their own secular leaders, and are not actively engaged in global actions against the West.

- B

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  -Jimmy Carter says U.S. aims to split Palestinians maddezmom  Jun-19-07 12:04 PM   #0 
  - It seems they're doing it to themselves  Tempest   Jun-19-07 12:14 PM   #1 
  - Blaming the victims?  shance   Jun-19-07 12:26 PM   #4 
  - It's Palestinian against Palestinian  Tempest   Jun-19-07 02:17 PM   #8 
  - Nobody was forcing them to shoot each other in the streets.  barb162   Jun-20-07 12:52 AM   #35 
     - The Palestinians have been targeted, brutalized and assaulted for years now.  shance   Jun-20-07 01:12 AM   #40 
        - So what do you think of shooting a Palestinian in a hospital bed  barb162   Jun-20-07 01:18 AM   #43 
  - Collateral Damage - Innocents  19jet54   Jun-19-07 02:34 PM   #10 
     - When did Hamas Call for Destruction of the US?  Bragi   Jun-19-07 06:46 PM   #26 
        - Of late there have been some calls by Hamas of global jihad.  barb162   Jun-20-07 12:53 AM   #36 
           - How serious were these calls?  Bragi   Jun-20-07 06:44 AM   #48 
           - Judge for yourself:"Abbas claims al-Qaida is operating in Gaza"  barb162   Jun-20-07 11:06 AM   #56 
              - This doesn't answer my question  Bragi   Jun-21-07 07:37 AM   #70 
           - Were they written in Richard Perle's handwriting?  The Stranger   Jun-20-07 09:03 AM   #50 
              - No, I would suspect it was written in al qaida's hand.  barb162   Jun-20-07 10:52 AM   #54 
  - Divide and conquer.  kestrel91316   Jun-19-07 12:23 PM   #2 
  - ding ding ding...  LeftHander   Jun-21-07 09:35 AM   #72 
     - Such divides exist in any group.  SayWhatYo   Jun-23-07 04:04 PM   #74 
  - more u.s. meddling. more stirring of the war pot, more  mopinko   Jun-19-07 12:23 PM   #3 
  - "Fatah could not prevail because..  rayofreason   Jun-19-07 01:19 PM   #5 
  - Go read post 4, above, and try to learn more about the situation.  The Stranger   Jun-19-07 01:49 PM   #7 
  - Oh please  Tempest   Jun-19-07 02:20 PM   #9 
  - How silly.  rayofreason   Jun-19-07 02:42 PM   #11 
  - Similar history...  19jet54   Jun-19-07 02:54 PM   #12 
     - There must be something in the water  rayofreason   Jun-19-07 03:14 PM   #13 
        - For anybody...  19jet54   Jun-19-07 04:16 PM   #17 
  - Hamas Is comprised of poor , innocent victims?  index555   Jun-19-07 04:41 PM   #18 
  - Nobody was forcing them to shoot each other in the streets.  barb162   Jun-20-07 12:56 AM   #38 
     - Peace marchers?  The Stranger   Jun-20-07 09:04 AM   #51 
        - Yeah, peace marchers were being shot by Palestinian militants  barb162   Jun-20-07 10:44 AM   #52 
           - could be a false flag operation.  SayWhatYo   Jun-23-07 04:08 PM   #75 
  - Neither Hamas nor Fatah... nor Israel.  rcdean   Jun-19-07 04:14 PM   #16 
     - Oh Really , so why did they forcibly remove the "settlers/occupiers"  index555   Jun-19-07 05:22 PM   #21 
     - A mere token.  rcdean   Jun-19-07 09:39 PM   #31 
        - A "mere token" , yes . BUT  index555   Jun-20-07 12:03 PM   #59 
     - Ignorance.  rayofreason   Jun-19-07 07:09 PM   #28 
        - Myopia!  rcdean   Jun-19-07 09:53 PM   #32 
           - More ignorance - or worse  rayofreason   Jun-20-07 12:20 PM   #61 
              - Awesome Myopia!  rcdean   Jun-20-07 05:09 PM   #65 
                 - You have not answered a single point  rayofreason   Jun-20-07 05:46 PM   #67 
  - sounds so familiar...  stillcool47   Jun-19-07 01:49 PM   #6 
  - President Carter Rather Exaggerates, Ma'am  The Magistrate   Jun-19-07 03:29 PM   #14 
  - Jimmy Carter is a joke.  sellitman   Jun-19-07 03:56 PM   #15 
  - He is not a joke...  19jet54   Jun-19-07 04:57 PM   #20 
  - BY that logic if I eat babies, do I get diaper breath?  Malikshah   Jun-19-07 05:55 PM   #24 
  - So , are you saying that hamas would actually accept peace with Israel?  index555   Jun-19-07 11:59 PM   #34 
     - You've changed the subject? Why? Because your accusation of Carter  Malikshah   Jun-20-07 07:18 AM   #49 
        - I made no such accusation against Jimmy Carter  index555   Jun-20-07 11:43 AM   #58 
           - My apologies. Your support of the OP I responded to and the  Malikshah   Jun-20-07 02:22 PM   #63 
  - Nothing is the article says anything about Supporting Hamas! Carter is thinking  rodeodance   Jun-20-07 06:28 AM   #45 
  - Jimmy Carter is one of the most Genuinely Humanitarian Leaders to have ever walked this earth.  ShortnFiery   Jun-20-07 10:56 AM   #55 
  - Clinton already proved him wrong  marshall   Jun-19-07 04:51 PM   #19 
  - Please stop spreading the myth. This has been debunked by  Malikshah   Jun-19-07 05:54 PM   #22 
  - More:  Scurrilous   Jun-19-07 05:55 PM   #23 
  - Don't tell Clinton that  marshall   Jun-19-07 06:28 PM   #25 
  - Read the article-- Clinton is wrong. I'd be happy to tell him to his face  Malikshah   Jun-19-07 08:58 PM   #29 
  - Thank you. nt  snappyturtle   Jun-19-07 06:53 PM   #27 
  - The Clintons lie with such ease, and one of the biggest lies was the "generous offer."  IndianaGreen   Jun-20-07 12:58 AM   #39 
     - Thanks for this article as it is very helpful  rodeodance   Jun-20-07 06:24 AM   #44 
     - but am curious if Clinton actually said these things (as they are news accounts)  rodeodance   Jun-20-07 06:34 AM   #47 
     - Arafat didn't negotiate - he just kept saying no  barb162   Jun-20-07 11:32 AM   #57 
  - Seems All Too Obvious  CHIMO   Jun-19-07 09:29 PM   #30 
  - The Independent's Robert Fisk, agrees with Jimmy Carter  IndianaGreen   Jun-19-07 10:09 PM   #33 
  - that is a powerful question: "Which Israel"?  rodeodance   Jun-20-07 06:30 AM   #46 
  - I side with Israel against the Palestinans  OldschoolDem   Jun-20-07 12:55 AM   #37 
  - A fence?? You're kidding. Have you seen a picture of the "fence"?  shance   Jun-20-07 01:14 AM   #41 
  - and your point is?  index555   Jun-20-07 12:07 PM   #60 
  - Oh I Know Those Poor, Poor Israelis.  Megahurtz   Jun-20-07 04:38 PM   #64 
  - I side with the Palestinans (nt)  NeoConsSuck   Jun-20-07 05:44 PM   #66 
     - No shit?  Jim Sagle   Jun-22-07 11:32 PM   #73 
  - Hamas in Gaza: A shortsighted maneuver  IndianaGreen   Jun-20-07 01:17 AM   #42 
  - In other words Carter is saying that Hamas is in the cross hairs  0007   Jun-20-07 10:50 AM   #53 
  - After his biased book  question everything   Jun-20-07 12:53 PM   #62 
  - amen brother!  flaminbats   Jun-20-07 07:39 PM   #68 
  - President Carter  classysassy   Jun-20-07 08:51 PM   #69 
  - have the Gazans asked for US money? .n/t  razzleberry   Jun-21-07 07:56 AM   #71 
  - This strategy is business as usual for American foreign policy. No surprise there.  Nikki Stone1   Jun-24-07 10:13 AM   #76 
 

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