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flyingfysh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 08:05 PM
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131. Bush administration is allowing NASA to say this?
I thought they were clamping down on things NASA scientists said to the public.
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  -NASA: Danger Point Closer Than Thought From Warming Newsjock  May-29-07 09:40 PM   #0 
  - Vote it up!  Drum   May-29-07 09:45 PM   #1 
  - NASA Links  OKIsItJustMe   May-30-07 09:49 PM   #140 
  - Recommended. Its very important.  lvx35   May-29-07 09:46 PM   #2 
  - But... but... but...  silverweb   May-29-07 09:50 PM   #3 
  - NASA could start by refusing to burn huge amounts of rocket fuel to  intheflow   May-29-07 10:05 PM   #4 
  - This is great;  Dr_eldritch   May-29-07 10:13 PM   #6 
  - Can't tell if you're being snarky.  intheflow   May-29-07 11:35 PM   #24 
     - Whatever....  silverojo   May-30-07 02:36 AM   #40 
     - One shuttle launch = one million cars' emissions for a year  TorchesAndPitchforks   May-30-07 07:20 AM   #43 
        - Got a source for that claim?  tabasco   May-30-07 07:51 AM   #56 
        - That is ridiculous  whopis01   May-30-07 10:22 AM   #76 
        - Excellent analysis - this demonstrates the difference between someone who can think  file83   May-30-07 12:37 PM   #104 
        - That you! I appreciate that. n/t  whopis01   May-30-07 05:10 PM   #119 
        - However I have heard that it does punch holes in the ozone  truedelphi   May-30-07 03:05 PM   #114 
        - From what I understand it does not (at least not significantly)  whopis01   May-30-07 05:10 PM   #118 
        - If you ignore the enormous amounts of energy used to make both  pschoeb   May-30-07 08:08 PM   #132 
        - The Shuttle Was a Mistake But...  jimlup   May-30-07 12:01 PM   #101 
  - a small point  dave29   May-29-07 10:16 PM   #8 
  - True. A better critique of military industrial complex contributing to global warming  intheflow   May-29-07 11:33 PM   #23 
  - Well, if you want something real along those lines  kgfnally   May-29-07 10:29 PM   #9 
  - My head hurts.  intheflow   May-29-07 11:59 PM   #26 
     - That's how I felt after reading...  LanternWaste   May-30-07 02:35 PM   #113 
  - STS Rocket Fuel  deweyp   May-29-07 11:05 PM   #15 
  - I'll have to take your word for that.  intheflow   May-30-07 12:14 AM   #27 
  - No you don't  deweyp   May-30-07 12:21 AM   #31 
  - welcome  NastyDiaper   May-30-07 09:38 AM   #69 
     - Thanks  deweyp   May-30-07 11:17 AM   #85 
  - Dude, Just balance the chemical equation  VTMechEngr   May-30-07 05:25 PM   #120 
     - I'm almost bawling my eyes out right now... I used to know how to do that.  EnviroBat   May-31-07 10:08 AM   #145 
  - Who are you that are so wise in the ways of science?  EnviroBat   May-30-07 07:12 AM   #42 
     - Thank You.  deweyp   May-30-07 08:21 PM   #133 
  - sts has two main propellants  Cobalt-60   May-30-07 12:15 AM   #28 
  - What does that mean,  intheflow   May-30-07 12:18 AM   #30 
     - yes, RCS = attitude jets used for space maneuvers.  Cobalt-60   May-30-07 01:09 AM   #34 
        - Right..which is why, after the shuttle lands, the hazmat teams are on it  paparush   May-30-07 09:39 AM   #71 
  - NASA is a leader in climate study.  NastyDiaper   May-30-07 09:36 AM   #68 
  - Translation: We're fucked. n/t  phusion   May-29-07 10:06 PM   #5 
  - Yup! n/t  ToeBot   May-29-07 10:35 PM   #11 
  - Exactly. They just don't know how to tell us peons yet that pretty  Nay   May-30-07 04:00 PM   #116 
  - K&R! nt  DKRC   May-29-07 10:13 PM   #7 
  - Hang onto your hats, folks! We are in for a wild ride.  kestrel91316   May-29-07 10:30 PM   #10 
  - I'm waiting for the websites to emerge that allow users to locate ...  krkaufman   May-29-07 10:54 PM   #13 
     - Saw one of those a few months back. . .  Journeyman   May-29-07 11:08 PM   #16 
     - There's the flood plain ...  krkaufman   May-29-07 11:30 PM   #21 
     - Here you go.  TheMadMonk   May-30-07 01:14 AM   #35 
     - I call this the "Lex Luther development plan". n/t  Barrett808   May-30-07 09:31 AM   #66 
        - Ha! Exactly....  krkaufman   May-30-07 10:34 AM   #78 
  - K&R/nt  nam78_two   May-29-07 10:39 PM   #12 
  - uh-oh - time for * to apoint an incompetent crony  xxqqqzme   May-29-07 11:03 PM   #14 
  - Where is the report available?  deweyp   May-29-07 11:08 PM   #17 
  - The report pdf is here  bananas   May-30-07 07:45 AM   #53 
     - Thank You!  deweyp   May-30-07 11:18 AM   #87 
  - WE NEED NUCLEAR ENERGY AND RENEWABLES. RENEWABLES ALONE IS NOT ENOUGH!  calteacherguy   May-29-07 11:13 PM   #18 
  - agreed  july302001   May-29-07 11:27 PM   #20 
  - I have to agree. Nuclear power is the only feasible alternative at this point.  tabasco   May-30-07 07:47 AM   #55 
  - agreed n/t  whopis01   May-30-07 10:24 AM   #77 
  - It's a gamble we have to take.  ryanmuegge   May-31-07 08:07 AM   #144 
  - Read the comments section  Dr.Phool   May-29-07 11:17 PM   #19 
  - This is why we need President Al Gore  Conscious Confucius   May-29-07 11:32 PM   #22 
  - Even if they are 25% right we are screwed!  JCMach1   May-29-07 11:44 PM   #25 
  - K/R nt  Miss Chybil   May-30-07 12:16 AM   #29 
  - is this the science * was waiting to get in?  Neo   May-30-07 12:48 AM   #32 
  - As a culture, we are in massive denial  Lydia Leftcoast   May-30-07 12:51 AM   #33 
  - Not doing enough?  deweyp   May-30-07 07:33 AM   #45 
     - They're not doing enough like 1) raising fuel economy standards (in fact,  Lydia Leftcoast   May-30-07 08:50 AM   #61 
     - Out here  deweyp   May-30-07 11:39 AM   #93 
        - Heaven forbid that the almighty suburbanite should be inconvenienced  Lydia Leftcoast   May-30-07 11:53 AM   #96 
        - Define "suffering."  hunter   May-30-07 01:40 PM   #105 
           - It seems  deweyp   May-30-07 02:26 PM   #111 
              - We'll see.  hunter   May-30-07 06:13 PM   #121 
                 - I'm not arguing  deweyp   May-30-07 09:07 PM   #138 
     - Okay, okay, we're doing enough then...  Wednesdays   May-30-07 08:52 AM   #62 
     - Don't forget  deweyp   May-30-07 11:45 AM   #95 
     - how much do we spend on war every year? nt  lakeguy   May-30-07 09:41 AM   #73 
     - And  deweyp   May-30-07 11:41 AM   #94 
     - sorry  gobblechops   May-30-07 06:49 PM   #123 
  - Question about warming...  19jet54   May-30-07 01:40 AM   #36 
  - Negative...  Solon   May-30-07 02:30 AM   #39 
     - Huh?  19jet54   May-30-07 11:54 AM   #97 
     - A follow up question, can Global Warming affect the Magnetic Field? n/t  Uncle Joe   May-30-07 02:16 PM   #109 
        - Nope, the Magnetic field is generated when the liquid outer core...  Solon   May-30-07 11:53 PM   #142 
           - Thank you for your concise answer.  Uncle Joe   May-31-07 02:11 PM   #147 
              - No problem, also, while the atmosphere does expand when heated...  Solon   May-31-07 05:06 PM   #148 
                 - As Mr. Spock would say "fascinating"  Uncle Joe   May-31-07 05:18 PM   #149 
  - K&R ... albeit a sad one. nt  Dark   May-30-07 01:45 AM   #37 
  - when it happens  gobblechops   May-30-07 01:46 AM   #38 
  - You want my suggestion?  lfairban   May-30-07 04:18 AM   #41 
  - I hope my new Prius will be considered a gas-guzzler in 5 years.  DemoTex   May-30-07 07:26 AM   #44 
  - My Civic  deweyp   May-30-07 07:38 AM   #49 
  - How special for you!  hatrack   May-30-07 08:26 AM   #59 
     - You  deweyp   May-30-07 11:16 AM   #83 
  - If I recall correctly  19jet54   May-30-07 02:30 PM   #112 
  - We are in for change no matter what we do or want.  siligut   May-30-07 07:33 AM   #46 
  - my idiot aunt says It doesn't matter, Jesus is coming next week!  Joe Bacon   May-30-07 07:35 AM   #47 
  - I'm one of the idiots  deweyp   May-30-07 07:45 AM   #50 
     - you must have some really weird ideas  UpInArms   May-30-07 07:56 AM   #57 
     - Cain's wife  deweyp   May-30-07 11:25 AM   #88 
        - Or he just married one of the other women that God created.  ieoeja   May-30-07 04:17 PM   #117 
     - regarding the Temp. Reconstructions:  jebediah   May-30-07 08:58 AM   #63 
     - Temperature reconstructions  deweyp   May-30-07 11:14 AM   #82 
        - good points. Thanks. nt  jebediah   May-30-07 11:18 AM   #86 
     - It is not about temperature  harun   May-30-07 09:17 AM   #65 
     - So if I believe what scientists say, I'm an idiot?  fidgeting wildly   May-30-07 09:33 AM   #67 
     - That's not what I meant  deweyp   May-30-07 11:30 AM   #90 
     - even IF we are wrong (BIG IF), what harm comes from trying???  LSK   May-30-07 10:36 AM   #79 
     - Here's a direct quote from the Summary for Policymakers  muriel_volestrangler   May-30-07 10:42 AM   #80 
        - There's a difference  deweyp   May-30-07 11:56 AM   #98 
           - here you go freeper  gobblechops   May-30-07 06:23 PM   #122 
              - No need for name calling.  deweyp   May-30-07 08:54 PM   #136 
  - "God will provide"  Tesha   May-30-07 07:36 AM   #48 
  - "Closer than thought" "Faster than thought:" "More rapidly than thought"  hatrack   May-30-07 07:45 AM   #51 
  - Scientific American ran an issue on this last year.  endarkenment   May-30-07 07:45 AM   #52 
  - It is a sorry truth  ramapo   May-30-07 09:40 AM   #72 
  - Careful my friend, ...  CRH   May-31-07 12:45 PM   #146 
  - We the people can take action, but cutting our energy drastically...  candice   May-30-07 11:33 AM   #91 
  - No problem! Bush will appoint somebody who doesn't believe in science.  tabasco   May-30-07 07:46 AM   #54 
  - DON'T WAIT FOR OTHERS TO ACT:  mod mom   May-30-07 08:23 AM   #58 
  - My mother-a RW born again-is involved in one in Columbus, OH  Lorien   May-30-07 10:07 AM   #74 
  - Good for you  RestoreGore   May-30-07 07:59 PM   #129 
  - What's NASA Doing Studying the Earth? They are Supposed to be getting a guy to Mars.  JPZenger   May-30-07 08:41 AM   #60 
  - he's looking for a way to save his own ass...as usual. nt  NotGivingUp   May-30-07 09:17 AM   #64 
  - They're studying Global Warming  deweyp   May-30-07 12:02 PM   #102 
  - On page three of the story there is a news video on breast cancer  MasonJar   May-30-07 09:38 AM   #70 
  - Thanks, MasonJar.  Lars39   May-30-07 11:17 AM   #84 
  - Yet we keep on driving  gravity   May-30-07 10:12 AM   #75 
  - ...plug-in hybrids charged with solar panels on our homes...  candice   May-30-07 11:26 AM   #89 
     - yet we keep driving...  gravity   May-30-07 11:37 AM   #92 
     - Last time I checked  deweyp   May-30-07 12:01 PM   #100 
     - The problem is  deweyp   May-30-07 11:59 AM   #99 
        - you didnt understand  gobblechops   May-30-07 06:58 PM   #124 
           - I thought he wanted to plug in his hybrid  deweyp   May-30-07 08:30 PM   #134 
  - just think how far ahead we would be if Gore was President in 2000  LSK   May-30-07 11:07 AM   #81 
  - I eat my heart out every time I think about it.  jimlup   May-30-07 12:05 PM   #103 
  - It's tipped.  hunter   May-30-07 01:49 PM   #106 
  - And Dana Milbank with The Washington Post  Uncle Joe   May-30-07 02:06 PM   #107 
  - There's no such thing as global warming.  StarryNite   May-30-07 02:10 PM   #108 
  - DRAFT GORE! We need a real leader to fix our screewed up err RAPED Mother Earth!  sce56   May-30-07 02:24 PM   #110 
  - Al Gore is drafting YOU to do it  RestoreGore   May-30-07 07:33 PM   #127 
  - You are so right! We need a real passion in the WH to address this full force. Al is the one!  kiteinthewind   May-30-07 08:53 PM   #135 
  - Well! I guess Bushie boy better start firing all those lying NASA ppl!  Nay   May-30-07 03:54 PM   #115 
  - It is the most important issue we face. Bar none.  Harper_is_Bush   May-30-07 07:07 PM   #125 
  - I'm trying not to lose faith  RestoreGore   May-30-07 08:02 PM   #130 
  - Notice how this isn't hitting the TV news? n/t  Harper_is_Bush   May-30-07 07:09 PM   #126 
  - But will this report hit the MSM?  RestoreGore   May-30-07 07:34 PM   #128 
  - Bush administration is allowing NASA to say this?  flyingfysh   May-30-07 08:05 PM   #131 
  - and people continue to cover their eyes and ears  Blue_Tires   May-30-07 08:54 PM   #137 
  - White House Water Front Property  tiredofthisstuff   May-30-07 09:31 PM   #139 
  - yikes  Proud2BAmurkin   May-30-07 11:11 PM   #141 
  - Then THIS from NASA: "Not Sure Global Warming Is A Problem"  intheflow   May-31-07 02:00 AM   #143 
 

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