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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #46
51. Poorly trained in crowd control and civil defense
A mission the US Army does not have due to Civil Rights restrictions (Posse comitatus). Its not having it both ways if one understands the issues.
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  -Victim says tape of Kent State shootings reveals order to fire Algorem  Apr-30-07 06:32 AM   #0 
  - If true, this is pretty important...K&R n/t  ms liberty   Apr-30-07 06:53 AM   #1 
  - Darryl Issa, the repug congressman  liberalnurse   Apr-30-07 10:42 AM   #35 
     - if he entered  melm00se   Apr-30-07 03:00 PM   #56 
     - Deport Issa....  Jelybe903   Apr-30-07 06:45 PM   #70 
  - Tin soldiers and Nixon's comin'.  MagickMuffin   Apr-30-07 06:54 AM   #2 
  - I had this as my earworm this morning.  crikkett   Apr-30-07 08:43 AM   #19 
  - Bush Would Love To Command The National Guard To Fire On Protesting Students  lostnotforgotten   Apr-30-07 06:58 AM   #3 
  - And if bushwad were to order the NG to shoot at VT students  LiberalFighter   Apr-30-07 09:47 AM   #28 
  - As I recall this incident, didn't the National Guard claim they  Vinca   Apr-30-07 07:15 AM   #4 
  - No. That was never given as a possibility.  Dhalgren   Apr-30-07 07:47 AM   #8 
  - Just like a firing squad.  formercia   Apr-30-07 07:59 AM   #10 
     - I thought it was that in a firing squad only one guy has a bullet  crikkett   Apr-30-07 08:44 AM   #20 
        - The George Tenet Syndrome:  formercia   Apr-30-07 08:55 AM   #21 
        - Thanks for the info. I don't understand why you wrote 'G. Tenet syndrome'  crikkett   Apr-30-07 09:37 AM   #27 
           - Selective Memory  formercia   Apr-30-07 10:50 AM   #36 
        - never mind  JustABozoOnThisBus   Apr-30-07 01:43 PM   #53 
  - What? Our government LIED to us?!... Off to Greatest Page for you.  farmbo   Apr-30-07 07:24 AM   #5 
  - k & r  wicket   Apr-30-07 07:26 AM   #6 
  - kick  libnnc   Apr-30-07 07:45 AM   #7 
  - Oh man...  themartyred   Apr-30-07 07:52 AM   #9 
  - Not necessarily the military...  rfranklin   Apr-30-07 08:00 AM   #11 
     - Rhodes was a perv too  Decruiter   Apr-30-07 06:44 PM   #69 
     - wow  themartyred   May-01-07 12:47 AM   #75 
  - That and these photos seem to corroborate one another  Wednesdays   Apr-30-07 08:01 AM   #12 
  - That is Alan Canfora in the second picture, waving the black flag. I met him on a train  kath   Apr-30-07 10:03 AM   #31 
  - This appears to have been taken when  vincent_vega_lives   Apr-30-07 11:39 AM   #40 
  - Thanks for posting these photos. They are shown so very rarely.  Judi Lynn   Apr-30-07 01:04 PM   #47 
  - Nominated.  H2O Man   Apr-30-07 08:06 AM   #13 
  - Thanks for the pic - perfect for this thread...n/t  ms liberty   Apr-30-07 01:18 PM   #49 
  - That is my alma mater  MikeE   Apr-30-07 08:10 AM   #14 
  - Utter bullshit...no such thing, not even possible  Solo_in_MD   Apr-30-07 08:41 AM   #18 
  - are you sure?  MikeE   Apr-30-07 08:57 AM   #22 
     - Its an urban legend going back to the 60s  Solo_in_MD   Apr-30-07 09:19 AM   #23 
        - Thanks for the correction  MikeE   Apr-30-07 09:29 AM   #26 
           - Welcome to DU! n/t  ms liberty   Apr-30-07 01:17 PM   #48 
           - Kent was my college, too, in the late 80's  Decruiter   Apr-30-07 06:59 PM   #72 
  - The weapons used by the National Guard were M1 Rifles  vincent_vega_lives   Apr-30-07 12:01 PM   #43 
  - M-1s or M-14s?  Jackpine Radical   Apr-30-07 01:25 PM   #50 
     - The OHARNG had M1 Rifles during the Kent State incident.(n/t)  vincent_vega_lives   Apr-30-07 01:29 PM   #52 
  - With a .308 no need for "bone tracing round"  Show_Me _The_Truth   Apr-30-07 01:51 PM   #54 
  - Why is this tape at Yale?  higher class   Apr-30-07 08:13 AM   #15 
  - Yale  Scooter24   Apr-30-07 10:40 AM   #34 
  - re-open the investigation with Nixon's soul mate in office?  TOJ   Apr-30-07 08:30 AM   #16 
  - no, reopen the investigation with the dems controlling congress n/t  orleans   Apr-30-07 03:32 PM   #58 
  - I t has always been maintained by student witnesses that there was an order given to fire.  slampoet   Apr-30-07 08:37 AM   #17 
  - my mother saw the first news report of the kent state shooting.  nannah   Apr-30-07 09:28 AM   #25 
  - How interesting, after 37 years this is coming to light.  raccoon   Apr-30-07 09:20 AM   #24 
  - I'm having just a bit of trouble here.  rsdsharp   Apr-30-07 09:55 AM   #29 
  - That leaped out at me, too  skygazer   Apr-30-07 10:00 AM   #30 
  - It was most likely a National Guard commander  Tempest   Apr-30-07 10:10 AM   #32 
  - In 1970 the Ohio National Guard gave commands different  rsdsharp   Apr-30-07 11:19 AM   #38 
  - The ARNG uses the same doctrine and training as the  vincent_vega_lives   Apr-30-07 11:41 AM   #41 
     - True but we can't have it both ways.....  slampoet   Apr-30-07 01:01 PM   #46 
        - Poorly trained in crowd control and civil defense  vincent_vega_lives   Apr-30-07 01:27 PM   #51 
           - Not quite.  slampoet   May-01-07 01:28 AM   #76 
  - I think "get set" means get into firing position. "Point" rather than "aim" means  jobycom   Apr-30-07 11:15 AM   #37 
  - maybe it's a guard thing. n/t  orleans   Apr-30-07 03:33 PM   #59 
  - For all anyone knows, it could have been one of the protesters yelling that out  brentspeak   Apr-30-07 03:54 PM   #62 
  - This goes both ways...  Hobarticus   Apr-30-07 04:19 PM   #64 
  - That's what we heard at the time from bystanders  Warpy   Apr-30-07 10:26 AM   #33 
  - Re-open it - go for justice. The U.S. is the number hypocritical  higher class   Apr-30-07 11:29 AM   #39 
  - Then Again  Lord Balto   Apr-30-07 03:48 PM   #61 
  - It was ordered  mtnester   Apr-30-07 05:43 PM   #67 
  - This type of escalation of violence is common  vincent_vega_lives   Apr-30-07 11:58 AM   #42 
  - Overlooked? More like buried. nt  valerief   Apr-30-07 12:22 PM   #44 
  - yes - who managed to get this tape buried so deeply that it's taken 37 years  kath   Apr-30-07 12:36 PM   #45 
  - Well, I personally haven't heard the tape  dmesg   Apr-30-07 01:54 PM   #55 
  - Of course it was - those students were murdered by their government.  Zhade   Apr-30-07 03:14 PM   #57 
  - I want the names of those guardsmen up on a web site, I want them shamed for life  anotherdrew   Apr-30-07 03:42 PM   #60 
  - and Governor Rhodes can burn in hell as well n/t  anotherdrew   Apr-30-07 05:07 PM   #65 
  - Just imagine if several weapons of the type recently stolen from the vehicle of a out-of-state SWAT...  indepat   Apr-30-07 04:11 PM   #63 
  - Let's not forget the Jackson State killings either...  anotherdrew   Apr-30-07 05:30 PM   #66 
  - Aren't guns on campuses a wonderful thing? n/t  gatorboy   Apr-30-07 06:16 PM   #68 
  - Scuse the screamin  FogerRox   Apr-30-07 06:54 PM   #71 
  - "somehow" overlooked?  pitohui   Apr-30-07 08:05 PM   #73 
  - Interesting...  Raine   Apr-30-07 08:59 PM   #74 
  - tape's out- " Kent St. tape: 'Point! Fire!' " -audio link-  Algorem   May-01-07 04:13 PM   #77 
  - Report: Command to open fire heard on Kent State tape  IChing   May-01-07 06:13 PM   #78 
     - It was on here yesterday  tavalon   May-01-07 06:13 PM   #79 
 

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