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Mon Apr-30-07 09:55 AM
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| 29. I'm having just a bit of trouble here. |
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The commands given were "Get Set! Point! Fire!"? "Get Set" rather than "Ready" I can maybe buy, especially under the circumstances but "Point" instead of "Aim." Nobody in the military is going to give the order for troops to "point" their rifles.
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| -Victim says tape of Kent State shootings reveals order to fire |
Algorem |
Apr-30-07 06:32 AM |
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If true, this is pretty important...K&R n/t |
ms liberty |
Apr-30-07 06:53 AM |
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Darryl Issa, the repug congressman |
liberalnurse |
Apr-30-07 10:42 AM |
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if he entered |
melm00se |
Apr-30-07 03:00 PM |
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Deport Issa.... |
Jelybe903 |
Apr-30-07 06:45 PM |
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Tin soldiers and Nixon's comin'. |
MagickMuffin |
Apr-30-07 06:54 AM |
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I had this as my earworm this morning. |
crikkett |
Apr-30-07 08:43 AM |
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Bush Would Love To Command The National Guard To Fire On Protesting Students |
lostnotforgotten |
Apr-30-07 06:58 AM |
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And if bushwad were to order the NG to shoot at VT students |
LiberalFighter |
Apr-30-07 09:47 AM |
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As I recall this incident, didn't the National Guard claim they |
Vinca |
Apr-30-07 07:15 AM |
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No. That was never given as a possibility. |
Dhalgren |
Apr-30-07 07:47 AM |
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Just like a firing squad. |
formercia |
Apr-30-07 07:59 AM |
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I thought it was that in a firing squad only one guy has a bullet |
crikkett |
Apr-30-07 08:44 AM |
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The George Tenet Syndrome: |
formercia |
Apr-30-07 08:55 AM |
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Thanks for the info. I don't understand why you wrote 'G. Tenet syndrome' |
crikkett |
Apr-30-07 09:37 AM |
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Selective Memory |
formercia |
Apr-30-07 10:50 AM |
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never mind |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Apr-30-07 01:43 PM |
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What? Our government LIED to us?!... Off to Greatest Page for you. |
farmbo |
Apr-30-07 07:24 AM |
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k & r |
wicket |
Apr-30-07 07:26 AM |
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kick |
libnnc |
Apr-30-07 07:45 AM |
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Oh man... |
themartyred |
Apr-30-07 07:52 AM |
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Not necessarily the military... |
rfranklin |
Apr-30-07 08:00 AM |
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Rhodes was a perv too |
Decruiter |
Apr-30-07 06:44 PM |
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wow |
themartyred |
May-01-07 12:47 AM |
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That and these photos seem to corroborate one another |
Wednesdays |
Apr-30-07 08:01 AM |
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That is Alan Canfora in the second picture, waving the black flag. I met him on a train |
kath |
Apr-30-07 10:03 AM |
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This appears to have been taken when |
vincent_vega_lives |
Apr-30-07 11:39 AM |
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Thanks for posting these photos. They are shown so very rarely. |
Judi Lynn |
Apr-30-07 01:04 PM |
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Nominated. |
H2O Man |
Apr-30-07 08:06 AM |
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Thanks for the pic - perfect for this thread...n/t |
ms liberty |
Apr-30-07 01:18 PM |
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That is my alma mater |
MikeE |
Apr-30-07 08:10 AM |
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Utter bullshit...no such thing, not even possible |
Solo_in_MD |
Apr-30-07 08:41 AM |
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are you sure? |
MikeE |
Apr-30-07 08:57 AM |
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Its an urban legend going back to the 60s |
Solo_in_MD |
Apr-30-07 09:19 AM |
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Thanks for the correction |
MikeE |
Apr-30-07 09:29 AM |
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Welcome to DU! n/t |
ms liberty |
Apr-30-07 01:17 PM |
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Kent was my college, too, in the late 80's |
Decruiter |
Apr-30-07 06:59 PM |
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The weapons used by the National Guard were M1 Rifles |
vincent_vega_lives |
Apr-30-07 12:01 PM |
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M-1s or M-14s? |
Jackpine Radical |
Apr-30-07 01:25 PM |
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The OHARNG had M1 Rifles during the Kent State incident.(n/t) |
vincent_vega_lives |
Apr-30-07 01:29 PM |
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With a .308 no need for "bone tracing round" |
Show_Me _The_Truth |
Apr-30-07 01:51 PM |
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Why is this tape at Yale? |
higher class |
Apr-30-07 08:13 AM |
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Yale |
Scooter24 |
Apr-30-07 10:40 AM |
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re-open the investigation with Nixon's soul mate in office? |
TOJ |
Apr-30-07 08:30 AM |
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no, reopen the investigation with the dems controlling congress n/t |
orleans |
Apr-30-07 03:32 PM |
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I t has always been maintained by student witnesses that there was an order given to fire. |
slampoet |
Apr-30-07 08:37 AM |
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my mother saw the first news report of the kent state shooting. |
nannah |
Apr-30-07 09:28 AM |
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How interesting, after 37 years this is coming to light. |
raccoon |
Apr-30-07 09:20 AM |
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I'm having just a bit of trouble here. |
rsdsharp |
Apr-30-07 09:55 AM |
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That leaped out at me, too |
skygazer |
Apr-30-07 10:00 AM |
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It was most likely a National Guard commander |
Tempest |
Apr-30-07 10:10 AM |
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In 1970 the Ohio National Guard gave commands different |
rsdsharp |
Apr-30-07 11:19 AM |
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The ARNG uses the same doctrine and training as the |
vincent_vega_lives |
Apr-30-07 11:41 AM |
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True but we can't have it both ways..... |
slampoet |
Apr-30-07 01:01 PM |
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Poorly trained in crowd control and civil defense |
vincent_vega_lives |
Apr-30-07 01:27 PM |
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Not quite. |
slampoet |
May-01-07 01:28 AM |
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I think "get set" means get into firing position. "Point" rather than "aim" means |
jobycom |
Apr-30-07 11:15 AM |
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maybe it's a guard thing. n/t |
orleans |
Apr-30-07 03:33 PM |
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For all anyone knows, it could have been one of the protesters yelling that out |
brentspeak |
Apr-30-07 03:54 PM |
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This goes both ways... |
Hobarticus |
Apr-30-07 04:19 PM |
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That's what we heard at the time from bystanders |
Warpy |
Apr-30-07 10:26 AM |
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Re-open it - go for justice. The U.S. is the number hypocritical |
higher class |
Apr-30-07 11:29 AM |
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Then Again |
Lord Balto |
Apr-30-07 03:48 PM |
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It was ordered |
mtnester |
Apr-30-07 05:43 PM |
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This type of escalation of violence is common |
vincent_vega_lives |
Apr-30-07 11:58 AM |
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Overlooked? More like buried. nt |
valerief |
Apr-30-07 12:22 PM |
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yes - who managed to get this tape buried so deeply that it's taken 37 years |
kath |
Apr-30-07 12:36 PM |
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Well, I personally haven't heard the tape |
dmesg |
Apr-30-07 01:54 PM |
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Of course it was - those students were murdered by their government. |
Zhade |
Apr-30-07 03:14 PM |
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I want the names of those guardsmen up on a web site, I want them shamed for life |
anotherdrew |
Apr-30-07 03:42 PM |
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and Governor Rhodes can burn in hell as well n/t |
anotherdrew |
Apr-30-07 05:07 PM |
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Just imagine if several weapons of the type recently stolen from the vehicle of a out-of-state SWAT... |
indepat |
Apr-30-07 04:11 PM |
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Let's not forget the Jackson State killings either... |
anotherdrew |
Apr-30-07 05:30 PM |
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Aren't guns on campuses a wonderful thing? n/t |
gatorboy |
Apr-30-07 06:16 PM |
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Scuse the screamin |
FogerRox |
Apr-30-07 06:54 PM |
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"somehow" overlooked? |
pitohui |
Apr-30-07 08:05 PM |
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Interesting... |
Raine |
Apr-30-07 08:59 PM |
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tape's out- " Kent St. tape: 'Point! Fire!' " -audio link- |
Algorem |
May-01-07 04:13 PM |
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Report: Command to open fire heard on Kent State tape |
IChing |
May-01-07 06:13 PM |
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It was on here yesterday |
tavalon |
May-01-07 06:13 PM |
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